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grr i well peed,started the gym this week went 4 times,upped my cals by 250 to 1500 a day and lost a measly half pound!! last week done no exercise at all 1250 cals and lost 3 pound!!wtf yes i no muscle weighs more then fat,but as i burnt up more then ate why didnt lose more??

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first..breathe.

Muscles swell after working out and then must repair themselves...also, depending on what you're doing at the gym, cardio vs. weight training, the efforts will start compounding soon enough.

In 6 weeks I've only lost 5 lbs. but when I measured, it was 5.08" of my thighs (2.25" of each single thigh), .25" of my neck and bicep, .5" off my waist, 2" off my hips, and 1.38" off my calf.... so the weight only being 5 lbs really upset me, but when I took the measurements, I was much more pleased!

It'll come...........Keep up the great work!

takes a deep breath.

thanks susan,im determined to stick with it,

5 mins warm up on rower

stretches

15 mins treadmill at 4mh 3.5 incline

5 mins x trainer

7 mins bike at level 5

 

then i do weights leg curls,pecs and pull down lats 2 sets of 12

then 3 min cool down rower

then stretches

it prob doesnt sound much but the instructor is starting me small to get me use to it,but its a lot more then being sedentary

i have done measurements but only of bust waist and hips,i tend to do them the 1st of each month,perhaps i should do thighs arms etc as well

 Yup, 'scalled intramuscular water retention, and in addition your body will store additional glycogen in your muscles and liver - your stores will most likely close to double. Every gram of glycogen requires three grams of water to keep in suspension, so when your body adds half a pound of glycogen, you also get 1.5lbs of water for a total of 2lbs. So your weight might be stagnant for a while when you first start working out, but your fat is still dropping off, it just doesn't show up on the scale until your glycogen and water level stabilise.

 Huh, that sounds like an odd introductory program - I can see the reason for some of those exercises, but why are you doing the workout in the wrong order* and using the wrong equipment** and the wrong exercise selection as well. You're doing three isolation exercises and no compound movements which is a ridiculous program any way you look at it. And why are you doing the pec dec? Can you do 15-20 full-form pushups? Until you can, you shouldn't use external weights - master your own bodyweight first, before you start with external loading; unless your own bodyweight is far too much load to contemplate, that is.

*cardio, then resistance training is wrong for all but a small subset of the population - if you are a college-age male endurance athlete it doesn't much matter, but for everyone else your results will be better if you do weights, then cardio - and cardio is completely optional.

**machine training is decidedly inferior to free-weights training in all parameters that matter - while it's possible to overload individual muscles more on a machine, that is a stupid parameter to measure in the first place, your body is not a disparate collection of parts. Free weights are easier to use in an anatomically correct manner and give superior results in terms of muscle gain, fat loss, reduced joint pain, improved balance and coordination, - you know, all those parameters people actually want.

I think some ppl use machine weights because they don't require a spotter or andy assistance (that was my reason when I did my squats, no gym buddy Frown

And...just my two cents here...muscle and fat weigh the same.  A pound is a pound whether it's a pound of feathers or a pound of iron;  your muscle takes up less room than fat, backing up what sjenn said.  Keep it up--looser clothes feel GREAT and can keep you sane when the scale deosn't want to move much.

thanks guys,now i get it melkor thats put me in a better frame of mind,why the instructor gave me this programme no idea i dont really no the rights and wrongs of exerciseing so relied on what the instructor says,and no i cant do 15-20 push ups,im currently 223.6 ive lost 28 pound but at 5ft 2 im well overweight plus i havent done any reg exercise for about 20yrs disgusting i no,hence why im the weight i am,the instuctors gonna do a reaccessment on the 15th so see what he has to say then have a great weekend

Girl, that was just playing around at the gym if you ask me.  You need to do something to keep your heart pumping for at least 30 minutes.  You did the treadmill for 15, that's just getting you warmed up.  Try turning the speed down to like 3.5 or 3.3 and stay with that for 30 minutes or so.  Cardio burns the fat and drops the pounds.  Lifting weights just builds muscles that in actuality burn more calories than fat and they look a hell of alot better.  It's gonna take some time to get in the groove and just going is half the battle.  You get busy in the gym and those pounds will start melting off, I promise.  Good luck!!!

holy crap! i had no idea i should weight train first! i've been doing cardio first for TEN YEARS or more! lol Also- why is cardio optional? Honestly- don't tell me, then i won't do it. I do find better results with the free weights, and i hurt more the next day in a good way, but my current gym is very secular- i'm not going over to the big guy side to grab my 10lbs weights, when they're throwing weights around like they're the NFL or something. Not to discredit the machines wholly- i do get some muscles i wouldn't otherwise know exactly how to target.

Anyone have a good ab workout? i've got a muffin top i've NEVER had in my life... not even when i've weighed the same- i'm not digging this almost 30 thing!

Cardio isn't optional for quality of life - it's nice to be able to run down the street and play kick ball with your nephew without keeling over. But for fat loss, it's more or less useless as this triathlete will tell you - cardio just isn't very useful or efficient for fat loss.

 As for the gruntozoids - well, once you Step Away From the Treadmill you might need some Alligator Stew for a Female Lifter's Soul - but trust me, the free weights area is your area. And once you learn how it's really done you'll see that half the guys grunting and straining around you haven't got the foggiest notion of what they're doing - they may think they're in the NFL, but what they're really practicing for is the NHS.

Melkor is absolutely correct.....  Cardio is for heart health and quality of life.  Who wants to say they can't run/jog for 90 seconds?  That's where I started a little over 9 weeks ago.... Picked up the Couch to 5K program thinking "great, I'll learn to run AND lose weight".... WRONG!  Almost no weight loss.  BUT I've finished the program and can now run for an 1/2 hour straight.  I'm working up to an 8k on Nov. 8th.  But that is all because, and I never thought you'd hear this from my mouth, its FUN!  And my heart rate when exercising is much healthier and I feel healthier.

When I added strength training in there, I thought, okay, so now the pounds will drop off..........again, wrong.  BUT I'm stronger and leaner now.  **In 6 weeks I've lost inches** And I do see a weight loss on the scale every week, but if I guess by the mirror first, I can see 10x more muscle and toned muscle and less fat.....  So, if I weigh 10lb more than I thought I would but look like I lost 25lb, I still am excited about the changes!

I think just like everyone else, trainers ALL have different opinions.... Personally mine has me do some cardio for warm up 12-20 minutes running, walking or biking -- up to me....some good stretching....and then we start into weight training.  We do (and excuse me, I probably will call it something wrong) compound exercises and pair them up.  3 sets of 15 (working up to 20) and then a quick 2 minutes cardio blast ...like a full out 7-8mph run on an incline.  Then on to a different double set of exercises and blast again....  Each night is a different major muscle group with a minor group...every other night except when we do chest, we skip at least 2 days.

Just Tuesday night my trainer said if I wanted to increase weight loss which in his opinion isn't a one to one correlation to fat loss, try walking in the pool.  No weights, no nothing.  Just your suit and walk.... 30 minutes of that is like 2 hours on the treadmill...  Haven't tried it but just might add it onto the end of a weight session just because it sounds pretty fun.

-Susan

hahahah well, basically, i guess i feel like... as long as i exercise, i'm sweating, my heartrate's up, i'm that good sore, i'm sleeping better, eating better, i feel pretty good, so i can't be doin bad. I'm not a body builder, nor do i ever want to participate in a 5k, and the weight that i DO have to loose (or want to) is coming off, i'm doing SOMETHING right. Kudos for all your hardwork the both of you, i bet it feels wonderful to have those goals! Mine are a but more cosmetic... :) and the convo seemed like a good way out of cardio! :) i'll stick to my routine, but may try the weights first, i'll see how that feels, but i'm pretty set in my workout ways because when i commit and really go to the gym 3-4 times a week (instead of the once a month it had fallen to) i see results.. FAST. Melkor- i'm still not going over with the big guns lol i know how to use the weights, i'm just not dealing with the national confederation of grunters lol!

3 pounds sounds like a great amount to lose! The body is only supposed to lose a pound a week healthy anyway, 1.5 a week sounds great! Especially because you know it's true weight. Also, when you work out and diet your body begins retaining water like crazy, your muscles swell, etc. Give it a bit and I'm sure you'll shed more! Don't be discouraged!

Bodies are like brats - unpredictable and defiant at times!

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