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alec baldwin, what a creep!


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I was so disgusted by Alec Baldwin's attack on his daughter and by his comments on it for that matter. A"rude, thoughtless pig"? The child is eleven! What a jerk!
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i don't believe it is right to judge someone like that from a story that you don't have all the facts about. no one has been in their daily lives. he may have been under stress and taken it out on his daughter. parents do it everyday and kids survive. i'm not saying what he did was right but just because he is a celebrity doesn't make him any less human. we all make mistakes and unfortunately his are all made public.
man please. who doesnt say all kinds of crap when theyre mad, and especially to their family. im sure his daughter says worse.
What's wrong is releasing it to the press.  Can you imagine how that little girl feels right now?
I agree it's crummy that it got out but I stand by what I said about him being a creep. I don't know if you guys actually heard the tape or not but I can't think of any excuse for talking to a child that way. It was so abusive. I can't say I haven't ever talked to my husband like that when I was really angry but not to my kids. SHE'S ELEVEN! Or twelve, he didn't seem to know.
I agree what he said was way over the top, especially the "little pig" statement. 
Well I guess I'm a creep.  I know in the heat of arguments with my daughter I have said terrible, hurtful things. I'm not proud of this, in fact if I could stop myself from saying them, even from being angry those times I would.

I can't though, the only recourse was to face my daughter and tell her how sorry and stupid I was.

I am just glad that I have never had to face my daughter and the entire world that seems to live off it's interest in other peoples lives and explain my stupidly and my anguish over remarks that I said in anger.
verbal abuse is still verbal abuse.

thats not cool at all...oh well..he can eat the guilt when she disassociates herself from him and he dies a lonely old pig

;)
No excuse to talk to child that way. He's suppose to be the adult. What ever the problem with his x shouldn't be taken out on the child. I'm tired of hearing from the celebities about anything. They are actors that's it. Years ago  actors were considered low , now they think they are the authority on politic and world peace.   He'll reap what he sows. Never associated with my dad as an adult.
I'm confused -- when and where did Alec Baldwin call his 11 yr old daughter a fat pig?
pompey ~ he left his daughter a ranting voicemail when she failed to have a mutual phone call with him at the appointed time.  somehow the voice mail was leaked to the press.  it was pretty ugly/abusive...
i think society needs to get over it and butt out of famous peoples lives....

this happens a lot....seriously ive said some pretty nasty things to my bf during a heated argument...it happens...hell hes threatned to call the cops on me before...seriously it happens

if people care so damn much, why not focus that energy at..say dead-beat parents who either dont speak with their kids at all or beat them

/end rant
His ex-wife Kim Basinger is no angel either, I'm sure. Unfortunately, when relationships end, and there are children involved, people can get quite nasty. It's too bad they can't behave for the SAKE of the children. I wonder what this little girl's problems are going to be when she grows up ...
If it's beyond your control to say hurtful things to your children then you shouldn't be a parent. It's abuse. You should never say anything like that. Ever. It doesn't matter how mad you are or if you don't really mean it. Your children will never, ever forget it.

I remember once my mom said something pretty hurtful to me when I was in elementary school and I've never forgotten it. I still think about it quite often really, even though we're close now I will never fully forgive her for saying it to me.

Alec Baldwin is a creep. And a bad parent.
This is a tough one - we don't know all the facts.  Parents are people and make mistakes - and this kind of publicity makes it tough to take a step back and make amends within your family - he will be forced to be accountable in public but thats the life of actors.  I think it stinks that it was made public and I think it stinks that he talks to his child like that - we may not like what he called her but most of us parents have called our children names as well...mine was probably more like "listen to me you spoiled little brat"  but what I was thinking was "spoiled little sh*t". 
I can understand getting upset in the heat of an argument, however, this wasn't an argument.  This was a pre-teen who forgot (or wasn't able) to answer her cell phone at the appointed time, so her father decided to leave a long, obscene rant over voicemail, verbally abusing her for at least a minute.  They played a good portion of the message on the Today Show recently and it made me sick!!  At least in an argument, you have the opportunity to realize that what you have said has hurt your child and you can apologize and hug them and tell them you love them.  You can't do that when you're on the other side of the country, especially when your message has been recorded and your child could play it over and over again.  If he's angry at his wife (and he certainly has the right to be if she's putting the child in the middle), he should NOT take his anger out on her.  It is simply unacceptable.

The question is... did he call her back and apologize?  did he realize that what he did was wrong and try to make amends?  We may never know.  We only know what they wanted to share with us.  Alec's ex may not be much better either....
OMG
i just heard the voicemail on one of those new channels.
he called her a "little selfish pig"

but OMG! if anyone talked to me like he talked to his daughter they would be eating thier teeth!


and he said..very scary...
" i will SHOW you how P*ssed off i am when i get out there to los angeles"

put it this way...if a man said what he said to a grown woman.
you could get a restraining order.
it was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse that just being p.o.ed

you dont threaten your kids. you are suppose to make them feel safe.

have any of you heard the actual audio? he sounds strait up insane.
It's absolutely awful and no parent should ever talk to their child like that.

With that said, I can certainly understand a hostile coparent situation in which one parent is playing mindgames with the child, influencing the child to not pick up the phone, and to blantantly  disrespect her dad, which would drive the dad batty enough to make a horrible mistake in a fit of anger and frustration.

Deliberate, systematic alienation of affection by the custodial parent is not all that uncommon, unfortunately. And unfortunately for Alec, even if that is what's really going, he's just blown any hope he had in the courts and within his daughter's heart.

It's all a terrible shame.  
I have been scarred all my life by verbal abuse from my mother.  I firmly believe verbal abuse is often times worse than physical.  Children did not ask to be here, their parents brought them into this world and therefore are responsible to protect them (as much as is in their power) from all hurts in life.  To be subjected to abuse of any type by your own parent is more than a person should be expected to endure.

My daughter does theraputic foster care and gets the worst of the worst.  You would not believe what damaged verbal abuse can cause.  There is no excuse, I don't care what anyone says.  If you can't control yourself and your mouth, walk out of the room/situation until you can.
vee vee: I couldn't agree with you more. Being called ugly, stupid or fat constantly is just as bad as being slapped or punched in the face, especially when it comes from someone would decided to bring you into this world.

As a 'surviving' child of a horrid divorce i can completely sympathise with Ireland (his daughter). No matter how mad the parents get, it gives them absolutely no right to talk to their children like that. I can remember countless nights of being yelled at/cried at over something the other parent has done. Divorces should be entirely between the two parents as its never the childs fault, therefore taking ones anger out on the victim is selfish, mean and unexcusable.
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