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Has anyone tried the diet pills alli? Does it work, or is it even worth it? I have not heard anything bad about them becides the cost, and the stomach pains it gives you in the begining. I want to try them, but I was wondering other people's thought on them.

Thanks :)

I don't have any firsthand experience with it, but from what I've read, alli makes weird greasy stuff come out your butthole uncontrollably.  Yikes.  Most people on this site will tell you that diet pills are very rarely a good idea.  It's much more effective to just learn to watch what you eat and get regular exercise, and that way you don't have to worry about what happens when you stop taking the pills (or when the FDA pulls them off the market, which happens pretty often with diet pills).  

The only diet pills that are effective are the ones your doctor can prescribe.  And even they are limited in what they can do.  There's a placebo effect to taking pills.... if you've paid good money and you think they're going to work, they'll work to a point.   My biggest concern is where these pills are produced.  There's a huge market in non-prescription pills being churned out of chinese sweat-shops, for example, in conditions slightly less hygienic than the typical pig-sty.   Stomach pains might not be all you let yourself in for.

Actually, GI-Jane, Alli is the first commercial diet pill that is FDA approved.  The original in prescription strength and can only be prescribed by the doctor.  They reduced the mg available and made it safe for OTC.

As far as working, I am not sure.  I know it inhibits the absorption of some fat and carbs, but then it will also inhibit the absorption of some nutrients as well so you need to make sure what you are eating is very good for you.

i want some alli, but it seems they dont sell it her in dubai. has anyone seen it on sle in UK so i can get it sent over. i dont trust those on line companies, sure they will make some fake stuff in chiana

Original Post by sunnylee27:

Actually, GI-Jane, Alli is the first commercial diet pill that is FDA approved. The original in prescription strength and can only be prescribed by the doctor. They reduced the mg available and made it safe for OTC.

Yes, it was called "Xenical"

Here is another discussion on it:

http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/post/896 72.html#8

I've been taking it for about 4 weeks. I have never had any side effects. not one. not even a little stomach ache.

here's the thing--if you have side effects it's because you didn't take the time to read the literature that was provided (and is very important) and follow the diet. It's not difficult to do, not really that much different than the way I was eating to lose weight before I started taking it.

and they recommend taking a multi-vitamin before you go to bed so the alli doesn't interfere with the absorption of some of the vitamins that alli can inhibit (the absorption of).

I highly recommend it, I have lost more weight with it then I have without it.

also, it's a little cheaper if you buy it on ebay, you should just make sure it's sealed before you bid on it.

I have been on alli for 4 days.

It keeps you accountable for your binging and fat intake by experiencing greasy stools and perhaps if you eat way way too much fat, uncontrolled bowel movements.

To me its a brutal way to keep accountable, but its working.

It is very very easy to have the side effects: eat more than your recommended daily intake of fat. Just keep in mind some food have hidden fats, and restaurants would be hard to control.

ITs obviously not everybodys cup of tea. 

 

Not that I have any first hand experience - but I do know that this was a topic of conversation on the radio show I listen to in the morning.

APparently someone in the radio office was on Alli - and ate a greasy meal - and lost control of their bowel movements.... all across the carpet in the office... and all over the women's washroom and actually left a trail out the back emergency exit.

As extreme as that sounded there were other people "calling in" to the radio show with other stories of office "explosions" due to these diet pills.

Anything that causes you to poop yourself goes straight onto my list of "Bad Ideas"

Well, I have some first hand experience here.  I've been on it for about two weeks and haven't had a single, solitary side effect.  I keep to 15 or less grams of fat per meal and I even pushed it up to about 18 once or twice when I ate out and didn't experience any side effects.  My instructions say keep to 15 g of fat per meal and no more than 48 a day, so there is slight leeway.  I have also read that you can't just skip a pill and binge because it will stay in your system for 48-72 hours.  Methinks that people having these, um, accidents, are simply asking for it by doing exactly what they have been instructed not to and experiencing exactly what they were told they would.

I am planning on only taking Alli for the first 30 days to help keep me accountable and get a wide range of meals that I know are low fat into my routine, including proper portion size.  Knowing that I will have negative consequences if I don't do the math is quite motivating. 

It's certainly no miracle drug, but according to the scale this morning I've lost 5 pounds so far.  Not too shabby.  And I've eaten out at least five times at Olive Garden (low fat dressing, apricot chicken and a breadstick - yum!), Damon's (rib chain - got no-cheese Fr. Onion soup, baked yam w/brown sugar, steamed veggies), a local wing place (called Fatheads, so just imagine! - basic chicken sandwich and a couple grilled wings), Eat N Park (local chain of general American food - soup and salad bar), etc.  I've also had pizza (2 slices with veggies, no problem).  Every restaurant has something you can eat if you do the pre-work and the math. 

If you are willing to commit to the program, you shouldn't have any problem.  I'm not sure how much extra weight will come off untimately, but there is no reason you should have an accident if you don't want to.  I've found it very motivating to keep me from saying "oh what the heck" on the demon foods!

Original Post by risza:

It keeps you accountable for your binging and fat intake by experiencing greasy stools and perhaps if you eat way way too much fat, uncontrolled bowel movements.

 I have so many things I want to say but I won't.

Original Post by jef9up:

Not that I have any first hand experience - but I do know that this was a topic of conversation on the radio show I listen to in the morning.

APparently someone in the radio office was on Alli - and ate a greasy meal - and lost control of their bowel movements.... all across the carpet in the office... and all over the women's washroom and actually left a trail out the back emergency exit.

As extreme as that sounded there were other people "calling in" to the radio show with other stories of office "explosions" due to these diet pills.

Anything that causes you to poop yourself goes straight onto my list of "Bad Ideas"

those people deserve "office explosions". they are the same people that eat a whole box of snackwell cookies for dessert after their super sized big mac meal with  a diet coke then complain they can't lose weight and don't know why.

Read this, FYI. It's from Alli's website.

Taken from it:

• gas with oily spotting
• loose stools
• more frequent stools that may be hard to control

• You may feel an urgent need to go to the bathroom. Until you have a sense of any treatment effects, it's probably a smart idea to wear dark pants, and bring a change of clothes with you to work
• You may not usually get gassy, but it's a possibility when you take alli. The bathroom is really the best place to go when that happens

You can lose weight without the help of any pill. Eating healthy and exercising is all you have to do. This pill basically punishes you, albeit in an embarrassing way, if you eat food with too much fat (over 15g a day I think). You can do that on your own without the help of a pill.

Original Post by cptbunny:

Read this, FYI. It's from Alli's website.

Taken from it:

• gas with oily spotting
• loose stools
• more frequent stools that may be hard to control

 

• You may feel an urgent need to go to the bathroom. Until you have a sense of any treatment effects, it's probably a smart idea to wear dark pants, and bring a change of clothes with you to work
• You may not usually get gassy, but it's a possibility when you take alli. The bathroom is really the best place to go when that happens

You can lose weight without the help of any pill. Eating healthy and exercising is all you have to do. This pill basically punishes you, albeit in an embarrassing way, if you eat food with too much fat (over 15g a day I think). You can do that on your own without the help of a pill.

It is NOT 15 g of fat a day.  It is no more than 15 g of fat PER MEAL along with a 1600 calorie per day diet (calories per day depend on starting weight).  And people who follow the rules don't have "treatment effects."  If you are going to post from the website, you should include the truth, which is that these awful things don't happen to people who follow the instructions, which are very straightforward.  Alli IS about eating healthy and exercising.  I know that all parties here are generally hostile to any sort of diet aid, but this is the first-ever FDA approved weight loss helper, and it's just that, a helper.  It's no miracle drug.  Is it really necessary to spread disinformation by strictly quoting side effects which DO NOT HAPPEN to people following the program? 

Honestly.

I have to agree with pennsylvanian.

 

I don’t get it though spirochete, if you quote me, and say you have something to say, then say it! I'd love to hear it!  your leaving me hanging!

Why all the hate for the alli users? its legal, its our choice, and they have a plan that is sensible ( -and please don’t quote that and add a comment about oily stools being sensible, I think everyone gets now what happens if you eat over your recommended daily serving, which isn’t being sensible, and doesn’t happen to those who follow the plan of fat and calorie counting).

It so valuable to have information on here about actual experiences, from actual users of different aids.

Motivation for me isn’t easy, but alli makes it easer. I was sooooo scared to try it because of the “treatment effects.”  Could I loose bowel control if I binged on cake, fries, hamburgers, and bacon, maybe?????? People are telling me I will.......

but I know that orilostat (alli) binds with pancreatic lipase, and bile in the duodenum (small intestine), and thus fat does not get  aborbed into the body completly. And if I eat too much its not getting absorbed and its coming out in a little amount that looks like oil in my stool. And because I took the pill, the fat I put into my mouth will come out in whatever amounts I put in. So I limit my fat to avoid voiding the excess in a BM.

and so no, I hav'nt cr**ped my pants!

 

Original Post by pennsylvanian:

Original Post by cptbunny:

Read this, FYI. It's from Alli's website.

Taken from it:

• gas with oily spotting
• loose stools
• more frequent stools that may be hard to control

• You may feel an urgent need to go to the bathroom. Until you have a sense of any treatment effects, it's probably a smart idea to wear dark pants, and bring a change of clothes with you to work
• You may not usually get gassy, but it's a possibility when you take alli. The bathroom is really the best place to go when that happens

You can lose weight without the help of any pill. Eating healthy and exercising is all you have to do. This pill basically punishes you, albeit in an embarrassing way, if you eat food with too much fat (over 15g a day I think). You can do that on your own without the help of a pill.

It is NOT 15 g of fat a day. It is no more than 15 g of fat PER MEAL along with a 1600 calorie per day diet (calories per day depend on starting weight). And people who follow the rules don't have "treatment effects." If you are going to post from the website, you should include the truth, which is that these awful things don't happen to people who follow the instructions, which are very straightforward. Alli IS about eating healthy and exercising. I know that all parties here are generally hostile to any sort of diet aid, but this is the first-ever FDA approved weight loss helper, and it's just that, a helper. It's no miracle drug. Is it really necessary to spread disinformation by strictly quoting side effects which DO NOT HAPPEN to people following the program?

Honestly.

I didn't say that the pill did JUST that. But those are the SIDE EFFECTS if you DON'T follow the diet. I never said Alli was bad. I have nothing against it. I just think (that was the point of my post) that people can do it WITHOUT the pill and WITHOUT the risk of the side effects if they do go over. I posted the site so that anyone can read it and not just what I quoted. I made sure to quote the negatives so that people will click the link and read the rest to see WHY those things could happen. Not everyone knows about the 'rules' to taking that pill.

I didn't say that the pill did JUST that. But those are the SIDE EFFECTS if you DON'T follow the diet. I never said Alli was bad. I have nothing against it. I just think (that was the point of my post) that people can do it WITHOUT the pill and WITHOUT the risk of the side effects if they do go over. I posted the site so that anyone can read it and not just what I quoted. I made sure to quote the negatives so that people will click the link and read the rest to see WHY those things could happen. Not everyone knows about the 'rules' to taking that pill.

 You could have linked to the 'rules' but clearly wanted to highlight the completely avoidable and gross side effects.  I'm honestly not trying to be difficult, but there is really alot of hostility here to this FDA approved weight loss aid, and continuing to push the negative with no personal knowledge of the actual experience on Alli and avoiding any positive mention of its potential to aid in weight loss really comes across as pretty mean.  The original poster asked for experiences, not commentary from people who have no personal experience but want to fill you in on potential nasty details that you can **** your pants if you completely ignore the instructions.  If you knew about the diet and guidelines, you wouldn't have posted false information about the fat intake, so why contribute at all? 

People can and do lose weight without Alli, and people can and do do it with Alli.  Different strokes, eh?

I have been on Alli for awhile and I personally havent had any of the "treatment effects".   I always stay under the requirements of fat intake they tell you not to go over.    I would def not take a pill then go eat a big mac and fries, you might pay for it.   My weight loss has doubled since I have been on it.    I love it and it's worth a shot

I'm glad this drug is working for so many people but I must vote against it.

I took it for a little over a month and the first couple of weeks I saw no side effects.  I did lose a little more than I would without it, but after going over the recommended fat intake (I would say maybe only one of my meals being 20-30g) I experienced "side effects" which were extremely unpleasant and disgusting.  I stopped using alli when it got to the point that I felt this "effects" were out of my control (Alli suggest you carry around an extra pair of pants?!).

Anyway, it didn't make sense to me to give away $60 to cut back on my fat consumption/absorption.  For the past 4 months I've been doing what Alli claims to do, but for free and without any digusting grease coming out of places it shouldn't.  All you need to do is have patience and willpower!

Original Post by spirochete:

Original Post by risza:

It keeps you accountable for your binging and fat intake by experiencing greasy stools and perhaps if you eat way way too much fat, uncontrolled bowel movements.

 I have so many things I want to say but I won't.

 Go ahead Spiro....say em!

Original Post by pennsylvanian:

Alli IS about eating healthy and exercising.

It sounds to me that Alli is more about eat healthy or else end up with pants full of runny poo. It's kinda funny, really