Big vegan slip

OK, I ordered Mexican take out last night.  I'm usually careful to specify "no cheese" but I forgot.  I ordered a couple bean burritos, and the menu didn't say anything about cheese.

So I get it home, and it's SMOTHERED in cheese.  Dripping, runny cheese.  But, I'm starving.  So, I scrape off what I could and I ate.  (For those who know me on this board I'm a vegan for health reasons only- so I don't have an ethical issue with eating cheese or meat because of animal rights and all.)

The cheese that I couldn't get off made the meal taste so fatty it disgusted me.  It's been many, many months since I'd eaten cheese.  I used to love it.  But, somewhere along the line, not only did I stop craving it, but I unwittingly began to loathe it.

I told this to my friends and they think I'm just nuts!  They can't understand it and frankly, its impossible to explain unless one's gone through this.

Has anyone had a similar experience?

Yeah, sorta. Last night actually. I ordered the super veggie burrito at la parilla. I remembered to say no sour cream, but I forgot the cheese. It tasted like I was eating a lard vat. I'm not a vegan, but I have been cutting out cheese, i ate it anyhow but I felt kinda gross after. No matter how much I got off the top, there was still cheese sauce or something inside. ugh. I used to LOVE that burrito.

BTW if you are a vegan, did you know that sometimes they use lard in their refried beans? Just a heads up.

Also meant to say my mom would have thought I shot the pope or something for scraping cheese.

Original Post by elfbane5:

BTW if you are a vegan, did you know that sometimes they use lard in their refried beans? Just a heads up.

 Yeah, I know some places do use lard in the refried.  But, I think most places in the US use oil and/or stock (usually chicken broth) to get a thinner consistency.  I'm on pretty good terms with the owner of the restaurant I go to.  I need to ask him to start offering whole pinto beans and whole black beans.  They're much safer.  Usually I just cook my own and keep a qt or two in the fridge.

In addition to the refried...  The rice is almost always made with chicken stock.  Mexican rice is really a variation of rice pilaf.  They list this on the "vegetarian" section of their menu, but I think vegetarian (to them) means no chunks of meat.  I don't think they are intentionally slipping animal product into the recipes, rather they simply do not understand what veg*nism means.

Totally.

You'd go to an ASPARAGUS festival thinking there would be Vegan options there.

Nothing.

I ordered an asparagus burrito, assuming it would be, you know, asparagus, beans and maybe salsa.

Nope, it had more tri-tip, bbq sauce and grease than it did actual vegetables. Ridiculous.

Original Post by gpat919:

I told this to my friends and they think I'm just nuts!  They can't understand it and frankly, its impossible to explain unless one's gone through this.

Has anyone had a similar experience?

I'm not a veggie, but I can totally relate.  When we get pizza, the one topping that I put an automatic veto on is extra cheese/double cheese.  I just can't tolerate the fattiness/greasiness of it.  I get away with this only because it makes me physically ill.  My friends/family think I'm nuts!

 

me! me! me! that same thing happened to me. i'm vegan for many reasons and one is animal's right but i guess bot even the main one. anyway i scraped it all off (wasn't runny but was pretty melty) and ate it anyway. if i would have asked for another one they would have just thrown that away and made me another.

i hate when vegans are picky about that and ask for another one like somehow if it's thrown in the trash they haven't actually consumed it. i mean, it hasn't gone into their mouth but they still consumed it. and the rest of the food was wasted too.

but i can understand if someone is hungry and thinks they are going to get sick from it so they ask for another one. but if you can easily peel it off than just do it.

The way I usually look at it is if I know I specified no cheese and they gave it to me with cheese, I'd send it back (and have on numerous occasions with both meat an cheese).

But, if I forget to specify this, I guess that's my bad.  Plus, this was take-out and I'm not likely to drive back anywhere to get the order corrected even if it was their fault.

But, the main point I was trying to make was that I was astonished how strongly felt against the cheese.  I mean, I LOVED cheese when I was an omni.  Extra cheese like susiecue said.

A few weeks ago I was reading a thread that was saying how good some vegan cheeses were.  So I ran out and bought some.  I found those disgusting, too.  So, maybe I just don't like cheese of any kind anymore?  (I'm literally dumbfounded by this thought.)

Your tastes will always change.   Plus, i've heard that when you stop consuming milk products, your body stops producing the enzyme it needs to digest it.  I know I became increasingly lactose intolerant the less milk/cheese I was consuming.  Now cheese is a light flavoring at best :P 

yeah personally im not vegan and i am a dietican major. However your right in that some times they put wayy too much cheese or greese on food. I love fat, i mean i eat my oatmeal with a tablspoon of coconut oil, i dip the oats in the melted fat like its milk,  yet too much fat, espeically a diet lacking in essential fats can be bad... bad..

ive also studied and heard first hand that lipase defiency can happen with long term low fat vegans, intially your body will not know what to do with all the fat, espeically unsaturated long chain fats.

Honestly, vegan cheeses are nothing close to real cheese! I find them a little gross in their own, special oily way. :)

But I had something like this happen - I used to LOVE chicken fingers and then I stopped. Now I get extraordinarily ill when I eat them and I just don't because they taste greasy and disgusting to me.

For most of last year i was a vegan (had to stop as i wasn't being healthy enough and i started getting bone definciencies, etc - i'm now a lacto-veggie. It's about a close to being a 'meateater' as i can bring myself) And once i started attempting to drink milk/eat cheese, etc i couldn't! Before i'd become a vegan milk, cheese were everyday things, but afterwards they tasted like the richest fattiest foods imaginable. It's taken me a total of 8 months to really be able to enjoy eating them. It's such an odd thing that our bodies have the ability to adapt/alter our taste buds and dislikes like that. 

I went to Applebee's a few nights ago, mainly because my mum wanted to go. Their soup of the day was black bean, so I ordered a cup of that. when I got it, I was very suspicious after tasting at it/looking at it carefully that there was beef in it. When I asked the waitress, she said "I dunno, I think it's mainly just a bunch of smashed beans." No kidding... then again I live in IN. 

I've been vegan for a few months now, veg for about 3.5 years. Today I drank this coffee drink mix that had dry dairy powder it in because I didn't want to waste it, afterall it was a gift from my bf's mother from before I went vegan. I drank maybe two sips, and it left a thick slimy coating in my mouth along with the taste/smell of salami and cured meats on my mind. It was a very odd experience, and helped me to reaffirm my reasons for becoming vegan. It's not easy.

gpat919- I too used to love cheese, but I've found that you have to give the vegan anything substitutes some time. I hated the fake cheeses before I started to eat predominately vegan a couple years ago. I recommend using any of the white vegan gourmet products to start, mozzarella or monterey jack. The fake cheddars seem to have this play-dough smell. The texture can be remedied if you melt the cheese in the microwave.

It's true that your body becomes unable to metabolize lactose after ceasing consumption of dairy. It's a process that happens naturally after one has been weaned from breast milk, if milk products are not reintroduced. Ever wonder why so many many people around the world are lactose intolerant?

Interested in how milk does a body good? read this:

http://www.mad-cow.org/00/paraTB.html

(400+ sources)

It changed my mind on many issues. 

yet ive found that many people do much better on raw milk, espeically cultured raw milk stuff like raw cheese, which is high in casien and low in lactose.

same goes for kefir, and yogurt. OVer all, i dont drink very much milk, but i do eat cheese, and lots of whole milk yogurt.

ive never gotten sick off of raw milk, or raw milk cheeses.... never...

granted i dont eat it as most of my diet, and i take plenty of coconut and yogurt, which helps with the immune system. But i have felt great and energized since starting raw dairy.

Is pasteurizing an American thing, or is it world-wide?  We have become so accustomed to this process which destroys vitamins and kills enzymes.  Now we use irradiation to kill the microbes in our produce.   Who knows what effect this will have in the long run, but as long as the FDA approves of this process, it must be safe.  Right?

Now you can't even buy a raw almond in the US (yet every other raw nut is safe???)

I think the media is blame here.  They've got nothing to report, so lets scare the crap out of people digging up stories about e. coli and report on it daily until legislation is passed by an uninformed congress/senate.

well raw milk was for the most part banned back in the 30's or so. WHEn tuberculiusis was a huge issue, bovines contracted the illnness and it was a epidemic. But if safe handling and good farming techniques ( aka: FDA inspections!!!) existed, then it would not be an issue. Raw milk cheese is cultured for a minimum of 30 days by law, and usuually contains cultures and enzymes that literally kill any dangerous bacteria. Raw whole milk is basically a probiotic food, with helpful bacteria that help digest it.

UHT Milk or ultra pasterized milk is heated very high, and makes it so sertile that anything can grow in it, thats why regular milk goes rancid, and raw milk, left on the counter turns into something like cheese, and smells like parmasean cheese. ( ive done it)

really the mass producing of everything is the culprit for why these super bugs are coming into our food suplie. Were made a population of people with practically no immune system, and thier enzymes are only half there. Its not good.