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Biggest Loser Part 12 - Closed Group - Week 3: 7/28 - 7/30


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As was done in BLC10 & BLC11, weigh-ins are accepted on Tuesdays-Thursdays each week. Results will be posted on Friday, unless otherwise stated.  Only weigh-ins from Tuesday-Thursday will be accepted.  This is done to be sure we are all on a level playing field.  If anyone misses a weigh-in, their last posted weight will be used.

Everyone who posts a weight in Week 0 will be assigned a team; I encourage you to get to know your teammates on your team threads, as it will be a great source of support and motivation.

Each week the top two overall losers and top two weekly losers, individuals and teams as a whole, will be posted.  This is based on percent of weight lost.  For examples of what to expect, see the BLC11 thread posted here.

BLC12 First and Second Place badges for the top two overall losers to post in their gallery at the end of the challenge! (Not quite comparable to the $250,000 prize on the show, but it’s close!)

If you have questions, feel free to ask!  I’ll be checking in daily during the week.

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Each week please use the template below to post weigh-in results (be sure to post a new post with each weigh-in and do not edit an old post and risk me missing your update):

Team:
Week 0.   7/7-79:
Week 1.   7/14-7/16:
Week 2.   7/21-7/23:
Week 3.   7/28-7/30:
Week 4.   8/4-8/6:
Week 5.   8/11-8/13:
Week 6.   8/18-8/20:
Week 7.   8/25-8/27:
Week 8.   9/1-9/3:

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Individual for Week 1
(Greatest % loss from Week 0 to Week 1)
     1.  blaskowskij, blue team – 2.75% (3.6 pounds!) 
     2.  wants2bhot, black team – 2.58% (4.0 pounds!)  

Team for Week 1
(Greatest % loss from Week 0 to Week 1)
     1.  Blue Team – 0.85% (24.1 pounds!)

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RED TEAM
Red Team Meeting Place

100orbust  (W0: 226.4 , W1: 225.2, Total Loss: 1.2, Total %: 0.53)
angie952  (W0: 193.0, W1: 189.0, Total Loss: 4.0, Total %: 2.07)
buggyhair  (W0: 141.0, W1: 140.8, Total Loss: 0.2, Total %: 0.14)
deegee52  (W0: 134.4, W1: 134.4, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
foffles  (W0: 177.5, W1: 175.5, Total Loss: 2.0, Total %: 1.13)
jkpenrod  (W0: 318.4, W1: 314.4, Total Loss: 4.0, Total %: 1.26)
kortam  (W0: 184.4, W1: 183.0, Total Loss: 1.4, Total %: 0.76)
loudflower  (W0: 272.1, W1: 272.1, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
missjaylene13  (W0: 201.8, Total Loss: 1.4, Total %: 0.69)
nikki_08  (W0: 155.8, W1: 154.8, Total Loss: 1.0, Total %: 0.64)
robsheff2009  (W0: 243.0, W1: 242.0, Total Loss: 1.0, Total %: 0.41)
steelerfan  (W0: 163.6, W1: 163.6, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00)
sweetigem  (W0: 159.4, W1: 159.0, Total Loss: 0.4, Total %: 0.25)
team_malone  (W0: 171.3, W1: 172.0, Total Loss: +0.7 Total %: +0.41)
Red Team Total   W0: 2743.5, W1: 2727.6, Total Loss: 15.9, Total %: 0.58

 

BLACK TEAM
Black Team Meeting Place

augette  (W0: 241.5, W1: 249.0, Total Loss: +7.5, Total %: +3.11)
healthmd  (W0: 158.1, W1: 159.1, Total Loss: +1.0, Total %: +159.1)
ipoohbear  (W0: 177.0, W1: 177.0, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
jaefuma  (W0: 285.0, W1: 282.0, Total Loss: 3.0, Total %: 1.05)
jodiferjuniper  (W0: 188.6, W1: 187.4, Total Loss: 1.2, Total %: 0.64)
judy_  (W0: 131.2, W1: 131.2, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
justsmileandnod  (W0: 217.6, W1: 216.8, Total Loss: 0.8, Total %: 0.37)
manyfires  (W0: 167.4, W1: 167.0, Total Loss: 0.4, Total %: 0.24)
r4eboxer  (W0: 161.8, W1: 161.8, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
ranchobernardo  (W0: 171.2, W1: 175.8, Total Loss: +4.6, Total %: +2.69)
rileaf  (W0: 269.0, W1: 275.0, Total Loss: +6.0, Total %: +2.23)
senorita786  (W0: 140.4, W1: 139.2, Total Loss: 1.2, Total %: 0.86)
stonewind  (W0: 184.0, W1: 185.0, Total Loss: +1.0, Total %: +0.54)  
tazzie_23  (W0: 201.4, W1: 200.0, Total Loss: 1.4, Total %: 0.70)
wants2bhot  (W0: 155.0, W1: 151.0, Total Loss: 4.0, Total %: 2.58)
Black Team Total   W0: 2849.2, W1: 2857.3, Total Loss: +8.1, Total %: +0.28

 

BLUE TEAM
Blue Team Meeting Place

betzc  (W0: 139.8, W1: 139.1, Total Loss: 0.7, Total %: 0.50)
blaskowskij  (W0: 130.8, W1: 127.2, Total Loss: 3.6, Total %: 2.75)
eamikel  (W0: 196.4, W1: 193.4, Total Loss: 3.0, Total %: 1.53)
epurcell1976  (W0: 158.0, W1: 155.0Total Loss: 3.0, Total %: 1.90)
fiddler32  (W0: 214.0, W1: 212.6, Total Loss: 1.4, Total %: 0.65)
gymcoach79  (W0: 176.0, W1: 175.5, Total Loss: 0.5, Total %: 0.28)
ilovemytwins  (W0: 206.5, W1: 205.0, Total Loss: 1.5, Total %: 0.73)
jachid2  (W0: 152.0, W1: 151.0, Total Loss: 1.0, Total %: 0.66)
lizzie6580  (W0: 160.4, W1: 158.8, Total Loss: 1.6, Total %: 1.0)
mrfreezy  (W0: 254.2, W1: 253.0, Total Loss: 1.2, Total %: 0.47)
nuggetkong  (W0: 183.0, W1: 182.4, Total Loss: 0.6, Total %: 0.33)
singing_girl  (W0: 275.9, W1: 274.3, Total Loss: 1.6, Total %: 0.58) 
staziic  (W0: 230.0, W1: 229.0, Total Loss: 1.0, Total %: 0.44)
theferet  (W0: 168.0, W1: 166.0, Total Loss: 2.0, Total %: 1.19)
willowd2009  (W0: 188.6, W1: 187.2, Total Loss: 1.4, Total %: 0.74)
Blue Team Total   W0: 2833.6, W1: 2809.5, Total Loss: 24.1, Total %: 0.85

 

GREEN TEAM
Green Team Meeting Place
angelfireta  (W0: 255.0, W1: 252.0, Total Loss: 3.0, Total %: 1.18)
bhmoore  (W0: 186.8, W1: 186.0, Total Loss: 0.8, Total %: 0.43)
efish_sparkles  (W0: 146.0, W1: 144.0, Total Loss: 2.0, Total %: 1.37)
hehehahe  (W0: 178.8, W1: 178.8, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
jillian26  (W0: 138.5, W1: 136.0, Total Loss: 2.5, Total %: 1.81)
kassanovella  (W0: 156.0, W1: 152.5, Total Loss: 3.5, Total %: 2.24)
kirie  (W0: 160.1, W1: 159.2, Total Loss: 0.9, Total %: 0.56)
leslazz  (W0: 206.5, W1: 206.5, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
lilygirl1970  (W0: 172.4, W1: 171.8, Total Loss: 0.6, Total %: 0.35)
makphl  (W0: 167.0, W1: 165.3, Total Loss: 1.7, Total %: 1.02)
papa3169  (W0: 275.0, W1: 273.0, Total Loss: 2.0, Total %: 0.73)
rocconess13  (W0: 227.0, W1: 226.0, Total Loss: 1.0, Total %: 0.44)
shaye1984  (W0: 244.7, W1: 244.7, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
tamji  (W0: 194.0, W1: 194.0, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00)
Green Team Total   W0: 2707.8, W1: 2689.8, Total Loss: 18.0, Total %: 0.67

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** means participant did not post a weight for that week. Previously posted weight will be used until next weigh in.

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Hey All,

Wow, everyone is doing so awesome!  I dropped out of this particular group due to frustration that there were never any updates.  So great to see someone picked up the ball and ran with it! :)

If you do a 13, I'll definitely rejoin . . . the challenges sound great!

Best wishes to you all!

Angie

Team: BLACK
Week 0.   7/7-7/9:  241.5
Week 1.   7/14-7/16: 249
Week 2.   7/21-7/23: 246
Week 3.   7/28-7/30: 245
Week 4.   8/4-8/6: 244.5
Week 5.   8/11-8/13: 245
Week 6.   8/18-8/20: missed
Week 7.   8/25-8/27: 242
Week 8.   9/1-9/3:

Team: Black

Week 0.   7/7-79:  188.6
Week 1.  7/14-7/16: 187.4 (-1.2)
Week 2.   7/21-7/23: 188.2 (+.8)
Week 3.   7/28-7/30: 187 (-1.6)
Week 4.   8/4-8/6: 189 (+.4 overall)
Week 5.   8/11-8/13: Vacation
Week 6.   8/18-8/20: Vacation

Week 7.   8/25-8/27: 189

Week 8.   9/1-9/3:

I can't believe the challenge is almost over!  I really had high hopes for myself this time around.  I'm hoping for a stellar last week so I can at least say I had a loss!

BLUE TEAM

Week 0.   7/7-7/9: 206.5 
Week 1.   7/14-7/16: 205
Week 2.   7/21-7/23: 206.5
Week 3.   7/28-7/30: 205

Week 4.   8/4-8/6: 203.5
Week 5.   8/11-8/13: 203
Week 6.   8/18-8/20: 203

Week 7.   8/25-8/27: 201
Week 8.   9/1-9/3:

One more week to go...gotta get under 200!!!

Team: Blue
Week 0.   7/7-79:  152
Week 1.   7/14-7/16:  151
Week 2.   7/21-7/23: 152
Week 3.   7/28-7/30:  152
Week 4.   8/4-8/6: 152
Week 5.   8/11-8/13:  153
Week 6.   8/18-8/20:  153
Week 7.   8/25-8/27:  153
Week 8.   9/1-9/3

WEEK 7 STATS

Individual for Week 7
(Greatest % loss from Week 6 to Week 7)
     1.  lilygirl970, green team – 1.78% (3.0 pounds)
     2.  betzc, blue team – 1.17% (1.6 pounds)

Individual Overall
(Greatest % loss from Week 0 to Week 7)
     1.  makphl, green team – 8.38% (14.0 pounds)
     2.  blaskowskij, blue team - 6.88% (9.0 pounds)

Team for Week 7
(Greatest % loss from Week 6 to Week 7)
     1.  Blue team - 0.25% (6.9 pounds)

Team Overall
(Greatest % loss from Week 0 to Week 7)
     1.  Blue team – 2.40% (67.9 pounds)

 

RED TEAM
100orbust  (W0: 226.4 , W7: 226.6, Total Loss: +0.2, Total %: +0.09)
angie952  (W0: 193.0, W7: 183.0, Total Loss: 10.0, Total %: 5.18) **
buggyhair  (W0: 141.0, W7: 142.0, Total Loss: +1.0, Total %: +0.71)
deegee52  (W0: 134.4, W7: 134.4, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
foffles  (W0: 177.5, W7: 171.0, Total Loss: 6.5, Total %: 3.66)
jkpenrod  (W0: 318.4, W7: 304.4, Total Loss: 14.0, Total %: 4.40) **
kortam  (W0: 184.4, W7: 175.6, Total Loss: 8.8, Total %: 4.77)
loudflower  (W0: 272.1, W7: 272.1, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
missjaylene13  (W0: 201.8, W7: 201.8, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
nikki_08  (W0: 155.8, W7: 154.6, Total Loss: 1.2, Total %: 0.77)
robsheff2009  (W0: 243.0, W7: 235.8, Total Loss: 7.2, Total %: 2.96) **
steelerfan  (W0: 163.6, W7: 163.6, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
sweetigem  (W0: 159.4, W7: 160.6, Total Loss: +1.2, Total %: +0.75) **
team_malone  (W0: 171.3, W7: 172.0, Total Loss: +0.7 Total %: +0.41) **
Red Team Total   W0: 2743.5, W7: 2697.5, Total Loss: 44.6, Total %: 1.63

BLACK TEAM
augette  (W0: 241.5, W7: 242.0, Total Loss: +0.5, Total %: +0.21)
healthmd  (W0: 158.1, W7: 157.5, Total Loss: 0.6, Total %: 0.38)
ipoohbear  (W0: 177.0, W7: 176.0, Total Loss: 1.0, Total %: 0.56) **
jaefuma  (W0: 285.0, W7: 271.0, Total Loss: 14.0, Total %: 4.91) **
jodiferjuniper  (W0: 188.6, W7: 189.0, Total Loss: +0.4, Total %: +0.21)
judy_  (W0: 131.2, W7: 131.2, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
justsmileandnod  (W0: 217.6, W7: 216.8, Total Loss: 0.8, Total %: 0.37) **
manyfires  (W0: 167.4, W7: 166.0, Total Loss: 1.4, Total %: 0.84)
r4eboxer  (W0: 161.8, W7: 161.8, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
ranchobernardo  (W0: 171.2, W7: 168.2, Total Loss: 3.0, Total %: 1.75)
rileaf  (W0: 269.0, W7: 272.0, Total Loss: +3.0, Total %: +1.12) **
senorita786  (W0: 140.4, W7: 131.8, Total Loss: 8.6, Total %: 6.13) **
stonewind  (W0: 184.0, W7: 183.0, Total Loss: 1.0, Total %: 0.54) **
tazzie_23  (W0: 201.4, W7: 201.8, Total Loss: +0.4, Total %: +0.20) **
wants2bhot  (W0: 155.0, W7: 148.0, Total Loss: 7.0, Total %: 4.52)
Black Team Total   W0: 2849.2, W7: 2816.1, Total Loss: 33.1, Total %: 1.16

BLUE TEAM
betzc  (W0: 139.8, W7: 135.4, Total Loss: 4.4, Total %: 3.15)
blaskowskij  (W0: 130.8, W7: 121.8, Total Loss: 9.0, Total %: 6.88) **
eamikel  (W0: 196.4, W7: 186.8, Total Loss: 9.6, Total %: 4.89)
epurcell1976  (W0: 158.0, W7: 154.5, Total Loss: 3.5, Total %: 2.22) **
fiddler32  (W0: 214.0, W7: 209.8, Total Loss: 4.2, Total %: 1.96) **
gymcoach79  (W0: 176.0, W7: 166.0, Total Loss: 10.0, Total %: 5.68)
ilovemytwins  (W0: 206.5, W7: 201.0, Total Loss: 5.5, Total %: 2.66)
jachid2  (W0: 152.0, W7: 153.0, Total Loss: +1.0, Total %: +0.66)
lizzie6580  (W0: 160.4, W7: 157.0, Total Loss: 3.4, Total %: 2.12) **
mrfreezy  (W0: 254.2, W7: 255.0, Total Loss: +0.8, Total %: +0.31) **
nuggetkong  (W0: 183.0, W7: 182.4, Total Loss: 0.6, Total %: 0.33) **
singing_girl  (W0: 275.9, W7: 271.9, Total Loss: 4.0, Total %: 1.45) 
staziic  (W0: 230.0, W7: 228.0, Total Loss: 2.0, Total %: 0.87) **
theferet  (W0: 168.0, W7: 163.0, Total Loss: 5.0, Total %: 2.98)
willowd2009  (W0: 188.6, W7: 180.1, Total Loss: 8.5, Total %: 4.51) **
Blue Team Total   W0: 2833.6, W7: 2765.7, Total Loss: 67.9, Total %: 2.40

GREEN TEAM
angelfireta  (W0: 255.0, W7: 252.0, Total Loss: 3.0, Total %: 1.18) **
bhmoore  (W0: 186.8, W7: 185.6, Total Loss: 1.2, Total %: 0.64) **
efish_sparkles  (W0: 146.0, W7: 140.0, Total Loss: 6.0, Total %: 4.11) **
hehehahe  (W0: 178.8, W7: 177.0, Total Loss: 1.8, Total %: 1.01) **
jillian26  (W0: 138.5, W7: 136.0, Total Loss: 2.5, Total %: 1.81) **
kassanovella  (W0: 156.0, W7: 147.0, Total Loss: 9.0, Total %: 5.77) **
kirie  (W0: 160.1, W7: 158.2, Total Loss: 1.9, Total %: 1.19) **
leslazz  (W0: 206.5, W7: 204.0, Total Loss: 2.5, Total %: 1.21) **
lilygirl1970  (W0: 172.4, W7: 165.4, Total Loss: 7.0, Total %: 4.06)
makphl  (W0: 167.0, W7: 153.0, Total Loss: 14.0, Total %: 8.38)
papa3169  (W0: 275.0, W7: 272.0, Total Loss: 3.0, Total %: 1.09) **
rocconess13  (W0: 227.0, W7: 225.0, Total Loss: 2.0, Total %: 0.88) **
shaye1984  (W0: 244.7, W7: 244.7, Total Loss: 0.0, Total %: 0.00) **
tamji  (W0: 194.0, W7: 195.0, Total Loss: +1.0, Total %: +0.52) **
Green Team Total   W0: 2707.8, W7: 2652.9, Total Loss: 54.9, Total %: 2.03

** participant did not post a weight for this week – previously posted weight was used to calculate results.

great job, everybody!  we are officially in the home stretch of this challenge - let's finish it off strong!!

i will be posting the new thread for BLC 13 soon, so keep an eye out for it!

have a wonderful weekend!! Laughing

-nik

BLC 13 sign-ups are officially open!!

Click here to sign up!

GO BLACK TEAM!

Week 0.   7/7-79:  177 

Week 1.   7/14-7/16: 177
Week 2.   7/21-7/23: 176
Week 3.   7/28-7/30:  176
Week 4.   8/4-8/6:
Week 5.   8/11-8/13:
Week 6.   8/18-8/20:176  ---I should start a "slowest loser" challenge!!!
Week 7.   8/25-8/27:
Week 8.   9/1-9/3: 175

Team: Red
Week 0. 7/7-79: 155.8
Week 1. 7/14-7/16: 154.8
Week 2. 7/21-7/23: 154.8 
Week 3. 7/28-7/30: 153.6 
Week 4. 8/4-8/6: 155.0
Week 5. 8/11-8/13: 154.4 
Week 6. 8/18-8/20: 155.0
Week 7. 8/25-8/27: 154.6
Week 8. 9/1-9/3: 155.8

arg!! right back where i started. hopefully blc13 is a different story for me...

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Team:   RED!!!
Week 0.   7/7-79:  184.4
Week 1.   7/14-7/16: 183
Week 2.   7/21-7/23:  181.6
Week 3.   7/28-7/30:  180.4
Week 4.   8/4-8/6:     179.8
Week 5.   8/11-8/13:  177.6
Week 6.   8/18-8/20:  176.4
Week 7.   8/25-8/27:  175.6
Week 8.   9/1-9/3     176.6

Team: Green
Week 0.   7/7-79: 227
Week 1.   7/14-7/16: 226
Week 2.   7/21-7/23:225
Week 3.   7/28-7/30:225
Week 4.   8/4-8/6:  225
Week 5.   8/11-8/13: 225 - darn water weight!  TTOM coming!  BOOO
Week 6.   8/18-8/20: 223
Week 7.   8/25-8/27:222
Week 8.   9/1-9/3:

Original Post by rocconess13:

Team: Green
Week 0.   7/7-79: 227
Week 1.   7/14-7/16: 226
Week 2.   7/21-7/23:225
Week 3.   7/28-7/30:225
Week 4.   8/4-8/6:  225
Week 5.   8/11-8/13: 225 - darn water weight!  TTOM coming!  BOOO
Week 6.   8/18-8/20: 223
Week 7.   8/25-8/27:222
Week 8.   9/1-9/3:

 is your weight for this week 222?

Team:  BLACK 

Week 0.   7/7-7/9:  184
Week 1.   7/14-7/16:  185  ... Sorry team...
Week 2.   7/21-7/23:  183
Week 3.   7/28-7/30:  183
Week 4.   8/4-8/6:  182 ... (missed-computer crash)
Week 5.   8/11-8/13:  184
Week 6.   8/18-8/20:  183
Week 7.   8/25-8/27:  183
Week 8.   9/1-9/3:  183

Hmmm... maybe I can do better in September

Team: RED
Week 0.   7/07-7/09:141.0
Week 1.   7/14-7/16:140.8
Week 2.   7/21-7/23:140.6
Week 3.   7/28-7/30:141.4
Week 4.   8/04-8/06:141.4
Week 5.   8/11-8/13:142.5
Week 6.   8/18-8/20:142.2
Week 7.   8/25-8/27:142.0
Week 8.   9/01-9/03:142.6

 

Team: Blue!
Week 0.   7/7-79: 196.4
Week 1.   7/14-7/16: 193.4
Week 2.   7/21-7/23:  Vacation Week
Week 3.   7/28-7/30: 193.4
Week 4.   8/4-8/6:  191.6
Week 5.   8/11-8/13: 188.8
Week 6.   8/18-8/20: 188.2
Week 7.   8/25-8/27:186.8
Week 8.   9/1-9/3:  185.6

Team: Black
Week 0.   7/07-7/09: 158.1
Week 1.   7/14-7/16: 159.1 Bad start, so sorry...
Week 2.   7/21-7/23: 159.5 I'm so stuck, hope is only water retention.
Week 3.   7/28-7/30: 157  Yay!!! It WAS water, finally  some progress!
Week 4.   8/04-8/06: 155.5 Double yay!
Week 5.   8/11-8/13: 155.5
Week 6.   8/18-8/20: ? Vacation
Week 7.   8/25-8/27: 157.5
Week 8.   9/01-9/03: 155

Yay, even though I didn't lose weight in August (due to vacation), I lost a total of 3.1 lbs on this challenge. And most importantly, I know I can enjoy eating and drinking without losing control and going back to bad habits. I'm in control of myself! :))

Team: Black
Week 0.   7/7-7/9: 171.2#
Week 1.   7/14-7/16: 175.8#
Week 2.   7/21-7/23: 167.2#
Week 3.   7/28-7/30: 172.5#
Week 4.   8/4-8/6: 170.0#
Week 5.   8/11-8/13: 173.0#
Week 6.   8/18-8/20: 171.0#
Week 7.   8/25-8/27: 168.2#
Week 8.   9/1-9/3: 169.5#

Goal: 161.5

Not a great showing, nowhere near goal.  But at least in a downward direction.

Team: Black

Week 0.   7/7-79:  188.6
Week 1.  7/14-7/16: 187.4 (-1.2)
Week 2.   7/21-7/23: 188.2 (+.8)
Week 3.   7/28-7/30: 187 (-1.6)
Week 4.   8/4-8/6: 189 (+.4 overall)
Week 5.   8/11-8/13: Vacation
Week 6.   8/18-8/20: Vacation

Week 7.   8/25-8/27: 189

Week 8.   9/1-9/3: 188.0

Well, I managed to maintain during a stressful summer.  Of course, not as big of a loss this challenge as I had hoped for, but I'm hoping to work exercise back into my routine once my youngest starts school on 9/14!

Team: Blue
Week 0.   7/7-79:139.8 (Crap)
Week 1.   7/14-7/16:139.1
Week 2.   7/21-7/23:137.5
Week 3.   7/28-7/30:137.3 (WOW)
Week 4.   8/4-8/6:137.0 (O my goodness)
Week 5.   8/11-8/13:139.9
Week 6.   8/18-8/20:137.2
Week 7.   8/25-8/27:135.4
Week 8.   9/1-9/3:135.4

Nuttin Honey :(

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