binge/starve cycle is messing me up >=(
Misundastod,
I have been there myself, and fight it every once in a while myself. What I have found helps is not restricting yourself so much, that way you don't have as many cravings or binging. If you want something one day, say a hamburger, have 1/2 of one. That way you satisfy your craving, and you are not totally restricting your body. And make sure you never go under 1200 calories a day. I used to have the mind set, that if I starve myself all week and do well, then I can have 1 treat on the weekend. That treat usually turned into about 10 over a 2 day period and I would feel really sick by Sunday night. I am now in the mind set that if I want a "treat" during the week, I let myself have one, or a very small one. Its almost like kids and candy. If you tell them they can never have any, that is all they will want and once they have free access to candy, they will eat More than they should. But if you give them a piece a day, a bag laying around won't be as tempting to them.
Good luck!!
I totally agree with mbsmith...
Don't deprive yourself of stuff you want to eat--just eat MUCH smaller portions--that way you won't go crazy if you taste something that you've been depriving yourself of.
Also--don't starve yourself the next day--just go back to sensible eating and maybe beef up your exercise for a day or two. Remember--3500 calories=1 pound, so one binge day isn't going to kill you--just pick up from where you left off and you'll be fine.
You have to stop the starving...thats the only way to stop the binging. After a day of binging try NOT to be negative about it put it in the past and eat like normal. You will NOT gain weight if you stop the binging.
I normally binge every 3 days it seems I don't know why. But I have gotten my binging to be smaller quanitites now at least. They used to be more and so I gained weight. usually I can even tell the days I am going to binge because I have the mindset that day or else I am being really restricitive and that causes me to binge worse.
Try to work on eliminating the triggers. For instance a trigger for me is being bored, being overly hungry, being overly tired, drinking pop, chocolate....there are certain things that will set me off into a binge. Like if I give into a chocolate temptation in the late afternoon a lot of time that sets me off on an eating binge. If I avoid the chocolate usually I can avoid the binge...but sometimes not.
I don't know if 1200 is right for your height. But 1200 is the bare minimum for an adult woman. I have noticed also that increasing my calorie intake some days seems to keep me from binging. And at 3500 in one day thats 2 days at 1450 calories...so if you aren't gaining weight now you won't gain at 1450 a day. Especially since you won't be throwing your body into starvation mode.
Can I just ask is there a name for this kind of eating disorder?I do this frequently admittedly I am underweight and starve more than I binge now
but sometimes I get so fed up I jsut give in and eat all my favourite crap foods for 2 days and then I feel guilty and even more upset so I starve for some time.
I never make myself sick though
Once or twice I ate whey too much crap and was sick but could not help that I didn't make myself.
It's like a vicious cycle of starving and binging. I have found nothing on this anywhere til now and I'm too scared to talk or ask a GP.. :/
When i started binging (and purging for that matter), and decided it had to stop. I got my boyfriend to come stay with me for a couple of weeks because I knew I wouldn't dare throw up with him knowing. That also helped with late night eating. During the days I would invite my friend for lunch. I knew that with company I wouldn't eat as much, we would have lunch together and I would have to wait till I was home or till whoever I was with wanted a snack or something. This especially worked when I was a guest- you can't eat everyone else's food. Now my friends like pizza and such, so I felt really unhealthy (even though this was what I was craving), but it was definitely worth it.
I now haven't binged in a month- although I have to be careful about what I buy when shopping. I won't buy 6 snickers bars because they are on sale, or a massive bag of m&ms. I buy a single bar or something special from the bakery counter. If you have it, you'll eat it. Multiple mini shops are also better.
I noticed that I would finish eating what I took out of the fridge before I made it to the table, since then I have tried to resist the habit, and waited the extra 10seconds. This way I don't go to the fridge and get more, and I feel that I've actually had a meal. I don't know if you have this problem but it helped my heartburn/acid indigestion an awful lot.
Hope this provides a couple of ideas,
Lia
i went through the exact same thing! i felt so helpless, like i was trapped in a vicious cycle i couldn't escape! what you need to do is instead of trying to stop binging, stop starving. i know you're probably afraid to, so was i- but trust me, it's the only way. if you starve yourself you will binge. you can't help it- it's instinct. the day after a binge, you need to eat. you will gain weight at first, but it will only be water weight- your body is replenishing it's depleted glycogen from starving, and every molecule of glycogen is stored with three or four molecules of water- and your body can store over 3,000 calories worth of glycogen. the weight will come off once your metabolism comes back up. but most importantly, you need to google your bmr (basal metabolic rate, the amount of calories you need every day just to keep your vital organs functioning) and NEVER eat less than that. if you do, your body will go into starvation mode and your metabolism will slow down and not burn any calories, and then the next time you eat you will gain weight like crazy. so, basically, you can starve yourself and be at the exact same weight as you would be if you ate 1500 cals a day. i am still struggling with the occasional binge, but i've found that if i eat just a little under my daily requirement of cals (bmr plus cals burned by activities- even sitting burns cals) every day, i have enough cals saved up at the end of the week to have a binge and not gain any weight. i've also been trying to do smaller scale binges- once you lose the guilt and do it every week you start to eat less on binges, feel less panicked, eat slower, enjoy the food- and i've started having as much as i want of only one or two kinds of treats on my 'treat day', instead of every kind of food i can think of- usually something sweet and something savory. that way, i'm not depriving myself of anything, and i enjoy myself just as much, but i don't eat quite as much because i slow down and enjoy it, and i get full on it and am not as anxious to shove it down my throat- plus it's easier and much more convenient. i hope this helps- best of luck sweetie!
Hiya i suffer from this too i usually only go 3 days without a binge often at bed time. i wont even be hungry il just want something sweet then eat a family size pack of choc and 4 cakes and a few sandwhiches.im under 8 stone but onli remain thin by starvin myself the day after and exercising stupidly.Im stuck in a cycle of eating lots then feeling guity so not eatin for 18 hours and swimming and walkin 2 burn it off.. its horrible and im glad sum1 else feels the same jus want to get out of it!!the onli thing i do is mark on my calendar what kind of day its been...red for bad orange for ok and green for good. This works a bit and also havin no bad treats in the house and making enough for one portion so u cant eat anymore. x
What I do is think about everything on a daily basis. You are binging one day, and then starving the next, thinking about weight management on a drawn out scale. It's like alcoholism or anything that's craving-oriented. You have to think about it one day at a time. Instead of going down to a 1,200 intake, go to like a 1,400 and lose weight even slower than 1 lb./week. If gives you more room to work with, and you won't binge because you won't be hungry at all. You could do 300 calories worth of ice cream for breakfast. If you want a food, go ahead and have it, just don't have it in addition to your meal. Take a vitamin if you're concerned about nutrition.
It sounds like you are still pretty Anorexic luv!! I know what it's like, i have been there and coming out of it has led to another disorder; binging. I dont know whether this is helpful or not but your binges come no where near as bad as mine, so dont panic, there are people more ingrained in it than you. I wont bore you with the details of how bad mine can be, but put it this way; IT HURTS!! ALOT!! And i hate myself after. I then go for 3 to 4 days with nothing, and if not too body concious i brave the gym. I managed to lose quite alot of my chub chub weight last summer and was actually feelin rather beautiful but have gained it all bk with a very bad yr at uni. I am going through a bad patch at the moment. The only thing i have found to help is trivalize food as much as possible; dont ever let it rule you. Food can be amazing but it is not worth denying to the point of starvation or stuffing to the point you want to burst. You are still tiny so let the panic subside and give your poor lickle self a break. Im not tiny anymore so im able to say that. When i think how tough on myself i was re food when i really had no need to be, it makes me think, gee man, i was a strict gall, lol. xx
Listen. The only way you can get out of this cycle is to STOP restricting. Period. That's it. I don't care if you've binged for 5 days straight. You're body won't stop with the bingeing until it gets used to you eating steadily enough calories. That doesn't mean one day or one week. You need to do this steadily, probably for a few months. And you might gain weight. But if you have to under-eat (yes, 1200 calories is undereating if you are a teenager) to stay at 98lbs then that is NOT your body's ideal maintenance weight. You can lie to yourself all you want, but it's the truth.
I strongly suggest that you talk to your doctor or a specialist about this. This site's mission is to promote healthy and sustainable weight management. What you are doing is not healthy. We can certainly be a secondary support system, but you have to want to get help. And we are not a replacement for a doctor or a health care professional.
Wow, thats the best advice this girl needs and i wish i had said it. I hope she listens, and this is re Peaches message!
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