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| Health & Support | What do you think of the Stockholm Solution? | Nov 21 2008 22:21 (UTC) |
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If it helps you, that's great. By the way, 42dnevncmus stnads for the latin motto Fortudine Vincimus (By Endurance, We Conquer). |
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| Weight Gain | nauseous, afraid to eat | Nov 21 2008 00:22 (UTC) |
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lalabanana gave tons of good food ideas, just wanted to add that putting a tablespoon of olive oil in your soup will add an extra 120 calories easily. Also lots of soups taste good, believe it or not, with an avocado blended in (an extra 280-300 calories). Add eggs to your soup too! Just crack them right in while the soups hot and they will cook. Eggs are a good source of protein. |
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| Weight Gain | nauseous, afraid to eat | Nov 19 2008 10:46 (UTC) |
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I think you hit the nail on the head saying your dealing with a lot right now as a new Army wife. I know some of what you're going through as my cousin, who is also my best friend, served 3 tours in Iraq, and I was so stressed and terrified for him that I could barely eat or sleep, had constant nightmares when I did sleepand, and ended up with depression. Extreme stress can cause the stomach to become very nauseous and even stop digesting food properly. The stomach literally tenses up like a cramping muscle. One suggestion I heard is to drink a sip of hot water in between bites of food. The hot water helps calm and relax the stomach. Of course eating foods that are easy on the stomach and easy to digest, as well as eating smaller meals more often, will help, but the key is to start dealing with the stress. Do whatever relaxes you. Take deep breaths, listen to soothing music, get out in nature or get a massage, find a hobby that relaxes you... anything you feel will help you with your stress. I know how you feel - I have extreme stress-related nausea, which has caused me to occasionally vomit food and water back up. I find that I can eat better in restaurants, because the atmosphere is soothing, the food appetizing, and if tend to forget about my soldier and the war and the other stresses in my life. Of course restaurants are only money-permitting, but if you can create a soothing atmosphere around meals at home - candles, music, whatever helps, it could be worth a try. See what works. I wish you the best... |
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| Weight Gain | Carbs? | Oct 08 2008 16:37 (UTC) |
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Thanks, very helpful. |
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| Weight Gain | What helps | Oct 08 2008 14:28 (UTC) |
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I'm in the middle of the 'recovery seems insurmountable' mode, as a matter of fact I'm in quite a slump, but sometimes reminding myself of my future goals helps. For example, I want to be able to rock climb again, and just thinking about the joy of being on the wall, the freedom of challenging gravity, the pureness of the effort and the dance with the wall, the happiness of being strong and fit and healthy and able, makes me yearn for it so much that I can then eat that next mouthful of food because it brings me one step closer to my dreams and goals.
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| Weight Gain | Should I stop it? | Oct 08 2008 11:39 (UTC) |
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There are a lot of options to try if you are lactose intolerant - rice milk, almond milk, hemp milk, soy milk... even goat milk is often tolerated by lactose-intolerant people. There's also special lactose free cow's milk or you can take pills to help you break down the lactose... If you're finding it hard to handle a lot of solid foods, adding protein powder to rice milk, etc, might help you get the extra calories you need. If you get full too fast, protein drinks or calorie rich soups can be sipped a little a time so you're not putting too much in your stomach at once. And you can add 1 tablespoon of olive oil to your protein drink or soup and you won't even taste it, but it will add an extra 120 calories. Also, processed cheese slices are 60 calories each, and not too hard on the stomach - again you can probably find soy versions. I've found that since food makes me very sick also, protein drinks and soups are what I use most. Also remember that feeling full isn't a bad thing. In any case, it's definitely true your nutritionist may be incorrect. I've been up to 4000 calories and not gaining. Your body may need a lot more calories than the average person. And the average person needs around 2000 calories a day just to provide the energy their body needs to live, without exercise. Putting 2 tablespoons of olive oil in something you eat (protein drink, soup, salad, mashed potatoes, whatever) will provide the extra calories you need to get to your minimum calorie level, without making you feel bloated. And although we're not concerned about 'eating healthy' at this point, having olive oil to make up the calories is still better for you and more nutritious than eating candy every day.
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| Weight Gain | ahhh mixed messages!! | Oct 08 2008 11:22 (UTC) |
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Walking is good for your digestive system and will help you absorb food better, as well as it is good for your mind and your muscles as well. But only if you make sure you know how many calories you've burned off walking and then replace those calories as soon as possible, or you will be counter-acting your efforts at gaining. And don't get fanatical about walking either - you don't need to power walk and work up a sweat and keep going until you feel sick. Just gentle walking, short distances, and as soon as you feel like you need to stop, then do so. Don't push yourself. But jogging, in your present condition? No. Your heart probably isn't in the best condition right now and spiking your heart rate could be dangerous. Also, your bones might be brittle and jogging could cause stress fractures. Any serious exercises can be damaging when ones muscles are in a state of severe atrophy. Remember - gentle, gentle, gentle. And jogging is probably far too much of a calorie burner right now. Are you under the care of doctors, nutritionists, anybody? If they're familiar with ED, they should be able to tell you which exercises are healthy and not healthy for your recovery right now. And if they tell you NO exercise, listen. Your Dad most likely does not think you're fat, he just doesn't have ED and isn't in the low physical state you are in right now, so he is thinking from a healthy person's perspective on exercise - it's drilled into everyone that exercise is healthy and necessary, the more the better. This may be true if you are healthy physically and at a good BMI, but right now what is light/moderate exercise for a healthy person could be detrimental to you right now. He's just trying to make sure that you're doing healthy things, because he wants you to be healthy, but he needs to know that what is okay for him or others to do exercise-wise is not okay yet for you. However, getting healthy enough to be able to go jogging can be a goal, but you're a far ways from that yet so just concentrate on getting enough calories and good nutrition. |
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| Weight Gain | Not getting balanced nutrition? | Sep 25 2008 05:05 (UTC) |
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Are you kidding? This is The People's Republic of Canada, land of Socialist Health Care, where the sytem provides the lowest grade and least care as humanly possible, since the government doesn't want to have to PAY for anything (even though it's supposedly our tax dollars.) |
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| Weight Gain | Not getting balanced nutrition? | Sep 25 2008 05:04 (UTC) |
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Soups - yes, I should do more of that. I'm not a big lentil fan, but maybe I'll try out some of your soup recipes anyway, could you post the recipes? Thanks so much. |
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| Weight Gain | Should I go to the hospital? | Aug 23 2008 00:24 (UTC) |
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THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR ADVICE - I DID GO TO THE HOSPITAL. They kept me overnight for observation, gave me two bags of IV fluid because I was dehydrated (I now have lots of saliva and tears!), and prescribed an anti-nausea medication to help me keep my food and water down. I had an ultrasound done and a number of lab tests and am waiting for all the results. The anti-nausea med is Maxerol (used to help cancer patients after radiation)and although it has side effects I don't like, and eventually I want to find out the root cause of my severe nausea instead of just throwing drugs at it, but for now it enables me to keep food and water down. I'm supposed to take it 3x/day but I actually only need it once every two days and I'm fine. I can actually eat, and eat, and eat, while I'm on this med and it's unbelievable. I also got a gainer powder (Muscle Juice) with a taste I can handle (chocolate, not sweetened with aspartame, like the last disgusting kind I tried) and when I add 4 scoops to a shake, it add over 1200 calories. I was so happy making my shake today and knowing I can actually drink it all and keep it down and start getiing calories in my body that I almost cried. So, thanks again everyone. And while the root cause of everything hasn't been found and I am defintely not 'better', just wanted to let everyone know things have improved a bit after getting help at the hospital. |
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| Health & Support | Re: I Cant do this. ... Neither can I! | Aug 12 2008 08:01 (UTC) |
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That amount of weight loss in that short of a period is dangerous. You should check out the weight gain forum on this website, there are a lot of people on it who are recovering from eating disorders (anorexia nervosa, bulimia) who I think you'd find it very helpful to talk to. They can tell you how they began to recover, to change their mindset, and can warn you about the extreme dangers of purging etc. 500 calories per day is deathly low. You should never ever go below 1200 calories, and you probably need in excess of 2000 calories per day just to maintain healthy body function. As you purge and force yourself to lose weight through unnatural means, a downward spiral begins. You can damage your hands, and the back of your teeth, your throat, and your mouth, by forcing yourself to constantly vomit, because of the stomach acid you bring up. You begin to dehydrate yourself, and deplete yourself of electrolytes, which in turn eventually causes heart problems. You may eventually stop your period and can cause yourself to become infertile. You can cause calcium and other minerals to deplete from your bones, giving yourself premature osteoporosis, causing your bones to become brittle and thin and easily breakable. Your hair may begin falling out, your muscles become so atrophied you start collapsing... It's horrible. Binging after you purge will not help your body or your mental frame of mind either. What you need to do is gradually increase your nutrient intake to normal levels. If eating makes you sick, have a few sips or spoonfuls, wait ten minutes, and have some more. Same with water. Do it all day, every day, gradually increasing amounts until your stomach can handle the food again. Your nausea may be caused by your self-starvation measures or may be psychological, but you should probably get checked by a doctor anyway to make sure there is no other underlying problem. You need to find help, it's too bad you've been ignored. Like I said, check out the weight gain forum and talk to some people who are recovering/have recovered from anorexia nervosa and/or bulimia. They are very helpful. There are healthy ways to maintain a healthy wait - fasting, dieting, and purging are not among them. Eating healthy non-processed foods, getting enough water, enough exercise, and maybe getting a colon cleanse are much better avenues to health and fitness than starving yourself and purging, which is a hellish path. Don't beat yourself up for what you do either, this is unhelpful to your state of mind. Just focus each day on recovering, increment by increment. The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. May today be better than yesterday, and tomorrow better than today. |
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| Weight Gain | A few questions...please help! | Aug 11 2008 13:56 (UTC) |
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Rice milk or almond milk might work better if you don't like soy (I hate soy milk too), and also it's been found that a lot of lactose intolerant people are able to handle goat's milk just fine. Some brands of goat's milk have a rather strong flavor, but other ones are mild and taste quite close to cow's milk. Here's an interesting YouTube video called The Whole Truth About Milk, which explains that the problems many people have with milk is related to the way milk is processed (i.e. pasteurization and homogenization, which alter the nature of the milk in many unhealthy ways) and not to the milk itself. Some people have found high-quality raw milk does not cause the litany of symptoms that mass-produced homogenized pasteurized milk does. |
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| Weight Gain | post removed by author | Aug 11 2008 13:45 (UTC) |
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Thanks all for letting me know I should remove the post. As my weight loss is the result of being unable to chew because of a facial injury, I had no idea that this post would be triggering to people with ED. But I can definitely understand how it would be, and I'm sorry for not realizing that before posting. Thanks for making sure it wan't on the forum for too long. -42dneVncmus |
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| Weight Gain | What is the best time of day to weigh yourself? | Aug 09 2008 12:29 (UTC) |
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Uberman, thanks for your reply. You were right about everything... except this is a weight gain forum, not a fat loss one! We're all malnutritioned and underweight, either from disease, eating disorders, or facial injuries, and trying desperately to gain enough wait to a) be healthy again and b) stay out of the hospital. Other than that it was a great reply. :) |
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| Weight Gain | Stomach stopping me progress!!! | Aug 09 2008 12:24 (UTC) |
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I wish I had suggestions - just want to let you know I know what it's like. Eating makes me extremely nauseated, and sometimes I vomit. I also have diarhea because of Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I keep losing weight. Hopefully for both of us the doctors will help us find out what's wrong and get things under control, so that even if we're not gaining anything for a little while, we can at least maintain weight. I wish you the best. Try protein drinks mixed with water if you can handle it... Baby pablum also works sometimes for people who can't even keep crackers down. Just plain rice pablum is the best. It won't help you gain wait and probably won't even stop you from losing but at least you might be able to keep it down. Keep your electrolytes up too, since vomiting and diarrhea can dehydrate you. |
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| Weight Gain | 5''3/5''4 girls. | Aug 07 2008 11:57 (UTC) |
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115-125 is about right. I'm 5'3 and 3/4" so I always just say 5'4". I used to weigh 122 pounds I'm now down to 101. Can't stop losing weight, it's scary. For me anything under 115 is too low, my body just feels best between 115-120. I haven't weighed 101 since I was probably ten or eleven years old, but it's what I weigh now and I'm trying to gain since I'm getting bony and it hurts to sit or walk... |
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| Weight Gain | IBS Person trying to put on weight | Aug 07 2008 11:49 (UTC) |
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I have IBS with constant nausea, and a facial injury that causes me not to be able to chew, and the combination has made me lose 21 lbs. I'm 5'4" and now weigh 101 lbs. I just lost 6 pounds in the past week, because I've been too nauseated to eat. I haven't found anything that works yet but just want you to know yes there are other people going through this who understand what you're going through. High-calorie gainer powders from supplement/bodybuilding stores are good, 600 calories/scoop. |
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| Weight Gain | "You're So Skinny... | Aug 07 2008 11:19 (UTC) |
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I was in a health food store buying the highest calorie highest fat food I could find (I used to weigh 122, now because of severe TMJ making me unable to chew) and I bought a yogurt with (yippee) 10% milk fat. I took it to the cash register and the cashier looks at it and says "Oh my goodness, how can you eat that, you're going to get fat!" I almost had a laughing fit. And I always get vaguely insulted when I walk into a store looking for meal replacement protein shakes and it always says on the front of the container: Lose Weight Fast! / Safe, Effective Weight Loss /Guaranteed Weight Loss Results! I'm trying to gain weight, don't you think they'd have any meal replacement shakes for people who are, well, in desperate need of meals? Nope, I had to go to a bodybuilder's supplement store to find anything for gaining weight. I felt so shamed walking in there so stick-thin, because the very-built cashiers treated me like just some airhead girl who'd invaded the sanctity of their bodybuilding store. When in fact before this severe weightloss I used to be a bodybuilder, and I was extremely built and used to be given a lot of respect by other bodybuilders. Everyone tells me now: "Oh, I just can't imagine you being a bodybuilder!" "I can't imagine a petite thing like you being that big!" (Even after I show them pictures...) |
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| Weight Gain | Can't chew - losing weight so fast - help! | Aug 07 2008 11:04 (UTC) |
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Thanks for your thoughts and prayers, that's so encouraging for a stranger to be so kind... and yes, you're right, eating high calorie 'unhealthy foods' right now is probably better for me in the short time than losing more weight. Thanks for your reply. |
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| Weight Gain | Hard gainer, but frequent heartburn restricts diet. Suggestions? | Aug 07 2008 10:54 (UTC) |
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For pure calorie count, fatty foods like avocadoes and nut butters are great. Avocadoes are about 322 calories each. Also olive oil is 120 calories/tbsp. Look up high calorie foods, and pick the ones you can eat. Also, protein powders are good. Don't get the weight loss kinds though! If you go to a supplement/protein powder store that sells to bodybuilders, you should be able to ask them if they have a 'gainer' powder. These are super high calorie protein powders that help bodybuilders add bulk fast, and can be really good for getting anough calories if you're trying to get back to a healthy weight. The one I have, is 630 calories per scoop. If added to a glass of milk it makes it 900. If regular cow's milk bothers you you could try goat's milk or rice milk or almond milk, which have less calories than cow's milk but will still help. Check the ingredients of the gainer powder though and try to avoid ones with aspartame because that will cause even more health problems. |
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| Weight Gain | upping the fats, and my bowl's in turmoil!!! ahh, IBS sufferers hellllp! | Aug 07 2008 10:46 (UTC) |
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I'm having the same problem - I was just diagnosed with IBS (after a year of agony) and I'm in the quandery of trying to avoid trigger foods while trying to get enough calories. Right now I'm willing to eat trigger foods just because I'm losing weight so fast (another six lbs lost this week, I'm down to 101 now, and was 122 originally) and I think that's an even bigger concern than my IBS. But the tough part is my nausea is making it so hard to eat anything. If I keep eating and try to push past the nausea I just throw my food back up. I'm so sad to hear all these medical professionals are treating you like an ED case and ignoring the real problem! Luckily I have a really good doctor. And he knows I can't chew (severe TMJ/+facial injury) so he knows that's one of the primary cause of my weight loss. But the nausea is getting to be an even bigger problem for me than the lack of chewing ability. I used to be a huge eater (I was formerly a bodybuilder), so if I didn't have nausea and IBS, I'd easily be able to get enough calories with protein shakes. But I almost throw everything up after more than three swallows. Hope you find good help. If you can handle it, high calorie gainer powders for bodybuilders are a good way to get calories. I have a powder (which I can't handle) that when mixed with a glass of milk is 900 calories! If it didn't make me so nauseus I could drink it. But of you can handle it definitely try to find a powder like that. Go to supplement stores for bodybuilders, they'll usually have some type of 'gainer' powder. |
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| Weight Gain | Gaining weigh-ins!! | Aug 07 2008 10:35 (UTC) |
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Height: 5' 4" Current weight: 101 Lowest Weight: 101 (I was 107 last week, I've lost six pounds in about as many days, which is scaring me, because I'd already lost 15 pounds prior to that, and I was slender to begin with) Goal weight: around 120 Meal plan: Eat enough calories!!! Which I can't ever seem to do, with the combination of my constant nausea and the fact I can't chew... I know I haven't lost as much weight as some of you, but it's the speed of my weight loss which is scaring me, and the fact that because the weight loss isn't self-induced (i.e. I don't have an ED, I'm not self-inducing vomiting or taking lacatives), it's caused by physical problems I have no control over and which aren't improving. I've been trying so hard to halt my weight loss and then suddenly I lost another six pounds... aaagh! Sorry to be depressing, congrats to everyone else who's gained, it must make you feel so happy! |
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