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| Health & Support | Binge Eating: Therapy, Medication.. Nothing is working!! | Jan 11 2009 14:05 (UTC) |
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5 days and going strong... I am feeling no desire to binge right now and it feels like i've taken a drug, i dont know this feeling. They call it the 'pink cloud' because you feel so happy, like there is serious hope of beating this thing. I dont know if it will work for everyone, but i have thrown out my xenical (expensive diet drugs that i have been addicted to for 8 years -- and i have NEVER thrown out.. in fact, keep them in every nook and cranny i can find - now they are tossed, i will never again abuse my body that way). I know what you mean about being an athiest, i'm not one, so handing it over to "god" was something i could do, and have done -- however in my group there are plenty of ladies who are athiest/agnositc... they said they found a spirtual side... the universe, anything that they know is 'greater' than them and it has worked. Personally, i think its the amazing support, the understanding, compassion, the sponsorship program.. to me it all just feels like a huge hug around me that i needed SO badly.... Its early days for me, but for the first time in 20 years i actually feel hopeful that i can manage (not cure) but manage this thing and have a long, healthy life. Good luck, again, i'm so sorry because i know the pain so very well.. |
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| Health & Support | Binge Eating: Therapy, Medication.. Nothing is working!! | Jan 10 2009 06:44 (UTC) |
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Hi there...
I am so sorry you are going through this. You can read my profile and see i am right there with you. I am not a vegan however, i hit rock bottom about a week ago with my BED (binge eating disorder) which has affected me in one way or another for 20 years. I finally admitted it is out of my control and no amount of willpower will help me.
I dont know if i am going to recover this way but i have never felt more hopeful.
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| Health & Support | Treatment facility for BED (binging disorder) | Jan 07 2009 07:58 (UTC) |
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Safina1 - The reason i am teary-eyed is not because of my specific weight, its because i have a mental illness that has taken over my life for the past 20 years with no signs of stopping. I know this is about a lot more than the scales.
There is nothing 'wrong' with being 127lbs... but there is definitely something wrong with shoving 10k calories down my mouth. I know my insides are suffering because of this abuse.
I truly wish i could just 'change my surroundings' and it would fix, but i think i know after all these years, thats just not going to do it.
I know a huge list of reasons for my depression, ranging from family influences to childhood trauma, however without real professional Cognitive Behavioral Therapy i dont think i can 'undo' all the years of bad habits alone :(
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| Health & Support | Treatment facility for BED (binging disorder) | Jan 07 2009 04:28 (UTC) |
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Woke up this morning feeling as you do after a 10k binge... disgusting teary eyed.. 'hangover' headachey (sugar hangover) and ready to 'get back on the wagon'. Of course i feel the heavy feeling in my legs and stomach.. all that water weight. Ugh i wish i could remember this feeling BEFORE i stuff my face. Funny thing is though, sometimes the thought of it makes me do it more.. in a self-destructive way. I dont think i want to hurt myself.. i just dont care, the binge wins out.
abd777 Thank you so much for your kind, encouraging words, i really need them right now.
Safina1 -- lol NY has some pretty fab restaurants, but Dubai isn't too shabby in that department either (unfortunately), there are literally hundreds of top caliber restaurants in stone's throw from our villa.. a lot of the great NY restaurants like Nobu all opened up over here too. This place is a death trap for dieters, too many restaurants, and not much else to do. |
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| Health & Support | Treatment facility for BED (binging disorder) | Jan 06 2009 19:19 (UTC) |
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lalabanana thank you so much |
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| Health & Support | Treatment facility for BED (binging disorder) | Jan 06 2009 19:18 (UTC) |
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safina1, thanks for your post.. thank you so much.
I am no longer 114lbs.. as of yesterday i am 127lbs.. and i'm sure after a few weeks at this rate, i'll be in the 135-140 range. You can't consume what i'm consuming and not be. We are willing to spend whatever money is necessary, so please let me know any options you have. We come to the states regularly on business, i'm in NY on the 20th actually, and can look into anything.
Thank you for your help..
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| Health & Support | crazy other people | Dec 30 2008 12:26 (UTC) |
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Just remember that to be in the position they are in .. they TOO are suffering.... in desperate times 'misery loves company'. You dont understand why someone would think it was a 'good' idea to message a recovering anorexic... but when you're ill and desperate.. 'good ideas' arn't really that frequent. Cut her slack and tell her that you want her to get help.. but you are not strong enough to give it right now. |
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| Maintaining | looking for 5'3 to 5'5 ladies:) | Dec 30 2008 07:08 (UTC) |
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As a 30 + year old who jumped on this dieting bandwagon at around your age...please do not waste your wonderful youthful years obsessing weight and the scales.... it is a never-ending depressing sad hole you will slip deeper and deeper into...and literally waste your life.
. What i would do to be 15 again and focus on other things ... it will truly waste your life. Its not too late!! Take GI-Janes advice. Gain self-confidence through other avenues. |
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| Health & Support | "healthy" vs. "ideal." | Dec 29 2008 05:40 (UTC) |
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I am in a constant battle with this too... I think my 'ideal' looking weight is 110 lbs (any less than this on my 5'3 curvy frame is not good.. i start to get bony chest and lose my curves).... 110 is really not healthy for me though because i simply cannot maintain it and be balanced. I think in reality at 31 years of age maintaining my weight at 115-117 lbs is more realistic. I can eat 1800-2000 calories, work out every day and have a better chance of not binging. Of course it means i dont have that six-pack stomach that i was getting compliments on left and right at 110... but it also means i'm not living in a private little nightmare of food fantasies and food deprivation. Yes... aiming for 115-117 range is my goal for 2009... I want to kick the binging cycle in the bum. |
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| Health & Support | Slimming Body Wrap.. | Dec 29 2008 04:51 (UTC) |
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I see a local spa has an 'algae body wrap' .. is this the type of thing it is ? Or is it a specific type of wrap?
Thanks! |
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| Foods | Why so very much love for oatmeal, peanut butter, and breakfast cereal? | Dec 28 2008 13:54 (UTC) |
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Horses for courses! I dig Oatmeal purely because it fills me up, i have instant kind, lower sugar 110 calories, and i am full afterwards.. most 100 calorie foods wont fill me up. Peanut butter.. .well yes.. it is a fantasy food of mine, needs to be drowned in melted chocolate though:) Finally cereal.. Yeah .. 'meh'.. I like it and all.. but it neither fills me up nor makes me feel particularly satisfied... i'm likely eat on munchking because cereal is too light and airy to feel full on .. IMO. Sure there are better things that those three foods.. but i can still see their appeal. Of course if we were giving love out to 'healthier' foods.. i'd be giving it to freshly baked wholemeal bread drizzled in a bit of olive oil. |
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| Health & Support | So Discouraged | Dec 28 2008 09:32 (UTC) |
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I am right there with you.... 2 weeks ago i was 110 lbs.. and now i'm heading toward 118lbs... Nobody can binge like me.. I've been on this cycle for fifteen years.. i know ALL the tricks.. advice.. and 'logical thinking'.. I know how to 'fight off' a binge every so often.. But what i really want for 2009 is to not have to 'fight' off a binge
I want to try to get my head out of this depression and weight-related sadness.. I want to truly worry about things other than my weight -- I'm exhausted!!
I think you deep down know exactly what you need to do ... but like me, until you can 'get out of this rut'.. its going to continue on..
You need a serious vacation from your own head !:)) |
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| Health & Support | ~~Bingers Anonymous~~ | Dec 21 2008 14:53 (UTC) |
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Sandrako.. Thank you so much for your kind words.. its exactly what i needed..
I do live in Dubai (moved from USA with husband a year ago), he is away more than here and will be for at least the next year. I have been busy trying to make friends and 'get a life' .. but its not the same as my home where my family are. I know i need to be stronger and 'get over' this lonliness and realize how blessed i am.
Thanks again... i'm going to try to stay healthy this Christmas season.. its definitely the hardest time of year!! |
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| Health & Support | ~~Bingers Anonymous~~ | Dec 19 2008 16:25 (UTC) |
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Just went 9 days without binging.. thought i was finally kicking it, started to think in terms of moderation... even had a few days where i was my maintenance or slightly more and not stressed.
Then today for completely unknown reasons other than missing my husband (who has been away on business for three weeks), boredom, access to various christmas food gifts... I went hog wild on around 4000 calories (probably more).
Feeling beyond wretched... feeling disgusted with myself.. but mostly just dissappointed in myself as i feel like i'm never going to get over this thing.
Very sad and alone tonight. |
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| Health & Support | Xenical .. Long term use/ abuse | Dec 19 2008 15:24 (UTC) |
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As pathetic as it sounds, i know i'm addicted to them and the thought of throwing them out brings about a lot of anxiety. I have thrown them out before, but tend to go buy some more (easily sold over the counter here) post binge. I guess its a bit like telling a bullimic to 'quit purging' or 'quit taking laxatives'... easier said than done.. but then again, i chose not to do these things because i read about the severe damage they both do to your body. I guess i'm looking to find similar info on xenical to scare me. When i read that xenical blocks 30% of you fat (and i see the evidence of this), as well as no real evidence that it will hurt me.. its a very difficult thing to give up. As far as the 'disgusting' factor... i guess the only reason it doesn't bother me, the same reason fishing cake out of the bin and eating it during a binge doesn't bother me is because during that 'binge mode' .. my self esteem is in the toilet along with xenical's hard work. I am only just starting to face my fears with this and wish there was a "xenical anonymous" site... as i did not know it would be so hard to give up... its an addiction like anythingelse... and I have no excuses for it, other than i'm being very weak!!
Thanks for your responses so far Gi-Jane, they are sensible suggestions to what i know are irrational behavioral patterns. |
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| Health & Support | Xenical .. Long term use/ abuse | Dec 19 2008 03:42 (UTC) |
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Thanks GI.... Interestingly i have spoken to several GPS.. here and in my home country and not one of them has been 'concerned' for long-term damages, only simply that i 'dont need them'. I think the above advice has been what spurred me to keep taking them in desperate times because i feel like they would have told me if it was 'disastrous' for my health. I am in therapy and its been wonderful in terms of identifying and facing some of the reasons for my 'irrational fear of gaining weight'... i'm a huge advocate of therapy. Again, my therapist tells me 'i dont need weight loss drugs', which of course is obvious. I guess i just wish when trying to find out about xenical and its long-term affects, i dont keep hitting brick walls... Perhaps its just too early to know, as not enough people have been taking it 'long-term' to really see the consequences. I need something to give me a jolt into throwing them out though..
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| Foods | An ode to Peanut Butter. | Dec 18 2008 03:30 (UTC) |
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PB is like the bad-boy my Mum warned me about.. We cannot just be friends, when we are together its all or nothing.. Of course PB has good qualities.. but we bring out the worst in eachother through excess and debachery.. PB is never just sasfied with a little encounter... its marathon that usually ends in a threesome with melted chocolate.. I, too, have set PB free!!
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| Weight Loss | What a difference a day makes - a thank you to people who responded to my post and soothed my frustration yesterday. | Dec 17 2008 16:54 (UTC) |
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it really is amazing the difference a day makes..
Dont Give up!!! You WILL get there.. |
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| Weight Loss | SLim Fast DIet success so far. | Dec 16 2008 18:39 (UTC) |
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I think the diet is fine if you stick to it.. although i dont know how it includes enough vegetable servings as well as enough grains.. That was my only problem with sticking to it full-time. |
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| Maintaining | 5'2 ladies around 100lbs: | Dec 16 2008 15:07 (UTC) |
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No Advice Carmen ( i'm 5'2 110lbs.. but dont want to go lower.. just want to tone up.. i dont want to lose my breasts or curves). I just wanted to say *big hugs* you are a gorgeous girl.. and seeing your pictures (prom picture) made me sad.. i can tell you have been through a lot and just need lots of support right now.
Feel free to contact me any time.
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| Maintaining | maintaining & holidays | Dec 16 2008 14:35 (UTC) |
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What i am doing is only giving myself Christmas day and New Years Eve. The other days are NOT holidays to me. They require me to work out and do my best at healthy eating. I have Christmas parties to attend etc.. but i will only make healthy choices..maybe a treat here or there.. but these arn't 'cheat' days to me. Christmas Day, i am with my husband and kids and if i fancy something i'm not going to deny it. New Years Eve is big gala party with friends.. so i'll eat the canapes and drink the champagne and toast the new year in. I won't work out New Years Day. But come January 2, you better believe i'll be on that elleptical... Thats my Plan.. Hopefully i'll stick to it!:) |
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| Health & Support | nervous about christmas, my families eds | Dec 16 2008 13:19 (UTC) |
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I'm taking Gi-Janes advice actually.. I find occasions with my family can set me back (sometimes unknowingly) several months... The fact that they're my family and i love them is the reason they have such impact on me.. This year, i am not going home for xmas, my little family (husband and kids) are staying in our country and will have a healthy, balanced christmas. I am only really starting to get serious about recovery... so its crucial that now and heading into 2009 i am in the best mental space possible. I struggled with it (like you are) because i thought it was 'together' time... but after a lot of thinking, i decided my mental health (and inturn physical health) is far more important than this christmas.
My aim is to be fully recovered by next christmas, so i can go along and their antics will be like water of a ducks' back..and if not, then i'll just be planning visits on my terms, on occasions that dont revolve around food.
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| Foods | is possible high fat, low cal | Dec 16 2008 13:00 (UTC) |
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A few of my favorite good 'fats' foods.. Hommous, olive oil, almonds, salmon, avocado
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| Foods | LOWEST calorie alcohol? | Dec 16 2008 07:50 (UTC) |
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Whats the word on champagne? |
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| Health & Support | nervous about christmas, my families eds | Dec 16 2008 07:33 (UTC) |
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I can totally relate. There is a strong line of eating disorders in my family, but the problem i have is none of them have been officially diagnozed, so they still think its 'ok' to be so weight obsessed. The eating disorders are more along the lines of weight obsession and unnatural obessession with bodies. My Nanna however is anorexic, she is 83 years old and has been under 40 kilos for many years, we are all surprised that she is still alive. My Mother and her twin, my Dad, Nanna.. all of them ... absolutely obsessed with bodies, weight... and they are without a doubt my worst trigger for weight issues. Everybody spends the whole day talking about weight gain, weight loss.. what they can or wont eat .. and its very stressful for someone like me with my own recovery. All i can say is this (because i live out of the country too)... Grit your teeth... know that you cannot change these people, but you CAN change your mindset. You can go in with a healthy mind... focus on good conversation, IGNORE anything to do with weight and food.. Enjoy yourself .. Be Healthy and know that some families, no matter how much you love them are better at a distance:)
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| Fitness | elliptical beginner.... =[ | Dec 16 2008 05:57 (UTC) |
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Hi Nikki! I started on elleptical about one month ago. First day, i did ten minutes and literally wanted a nap lol. Now this is my little program: 10 minutes, (first five warm-up then five hard-core) STOP on ground for stomach crunches/ 100 front and 50 each side. Another 10 minutes, Go Hell for Leather Hard hard hard STOP Lunges and few other exercises, sometimes more stomach or push-ups Start again for final 10 minute.. Shower and congratulate myself on burning around 350-400 calories.. I can do this every day with the breaks, i dont really get bored, ten minutes isn't that long when its in 3 bits.
Good luck!
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| Foods | snacks that help you stay fuller, longer? | Dec 16 2008 04:32 (UTC) |
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If you can do it, Oatmeal is probably the most filling thing i eat.. especially if i have it with a bottle of water or diet coke... can keep me going for hours. |
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| Weight Loss | Wayyy under for the day | Dec 16 2008 04:02 (UTC) |
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Mmmm This is my Fantasy:)) Of course i know you probably want to keep it healthy so... I'd probably have a protein shake, And then something i really enjoy like: Home-made Pizza with low fat / veggie toppings and a wholemeal base. OR A delicious omelette with low-fat cheese, chicken, veggies etc and then a nice desert like ice-cream. OR 400 calorie Lean Cuisine, Side salad/vegies, Bowl or two of Oatmeal OR honestly... if it were me, i'd order in my favorite Thai or Mexican meal LOL.. |
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| Fitness | Motivating Music during Fitness routine | Dec 15 2008 13:47 (UTC) |
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My ABSOLUTE favorite work out song... and i'm sure i owe this song 2 or 3 lbs of weight loss is : Rihanna.. - "Hey Mr DJ" (the song is called something else but if you google that, you'll find the song). |
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| Foods | Dark Chocolate | Dec 15 2008 09:05 (UTC) |
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Ahh Interesting thanks...
Even when i have milk, i tend to eat lindor/lindt balls, godiva or guylian.... So i'm not too concerned about 'quality'. Of course saying that, during a binge, i'd probably eat chocolate past its expiry date lol.. |
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