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The Lounge Feelings about the death penalty? Nov 09 2009
15:13 (UTC)
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Original Post by alibsam:

Yes murder is murder. If a murderer is put to death is it still not murder?

True, murder is murder.  But, as you say, the punishment should fit the crime.  If a police officer is involved in a shootout with an armed robber and kills him, that's justifiable homicide.  If I wake up in the middle of the night because I hear a noise downstairs that turns out to be a burglar than takes a shot at me, I have the right to protect my family and shoot back.

If someone gets into a bar fight and kills someone in anger over a girl or a football game, prison time and anger management classes might be enough to rehabilitate this person.

However, if someone is so disassociated with reality that he is able to kill an untold number of people and show no remorse or pity in doing so, I think a significantly more drastic punishment should be enforced.  By implementing capital punishment, there is a pretty good chance you could be saving the lives of other people, whether they are law-abiding free citizens, or other prisoners in the lunch room or other common areas.

The Lounge Feelings about the death penalty? Nov 09 2009
14:05 (UTC)
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Your logic doesn't make any sense. Our justice system is put into place to make sure the punishment fits the crime. Of course jaywalking doesn't warrant life in prison. However, that's neither here nor there since it has zero relevance to what we're talking about. Using YOUR logic, the mother who has an abortion should be murdered because she's exactly the same as a murderer who goes on a killing spree.

The only thing I see is you few in this thread being pro-life and pro-death penalty as nothing more than proponents of murder. A man goes on a killing spree and murders 10 people. He should be killed. A woman decides to have an abortion because she can't take care of the future baby (I don't believe a fetus is a baby so I refuse to call it that) for whatever reasons (she was raped, no money, etc) so she is a murderer. Using your logic, she's should be killed as well. Congrats. You just love killing. 

Thank you for telling me my logic was flawed because I was using your logic in my statements.  You were the one that said murder is murder is murder is murder.  I disagree with that completely so I wanted to use that logic in a different scenario to show you how ridiculous it was.

I also agree with you that the punishment should fit the crime.  That is why I am pro death penalty.  People like Jeffery Dahmer and Gary Ridgway, who show no remorse for their actions, need to be kept from re-entering society at all costs.  People escape from prison all the time.  Charles Manson is still goes before a parole board regularly.  As long as they are alive, they have the capability of murdering again, whether they get out of prison or "off" another inmate.

Abortion is a whole other issue and would require a completely different punishment.  Just because they murder their unborn child, doesn't mean they are a danger to anyone else in society.  That makes it a different crime, but it's still murder to me.

As far as a fetus not being a baby, that's a different topic not for this thread, but I will ask one question: if it's not a baby, what is it?  If you kill a tadpole, you are preventing a frog from coming into existence.  While Bald Eagles were on the endangered list, I'll bet their eggs were also protected.  Why?  Eggs aren't eagles.  If a human fetus had the chance to develop into a dog or a cat or an elm tree, I'd say it may not be human.  But as soon as the egg is fertilized, it has no other option than to become human, should it be allowed to fully develop.  That's the path it must take.  Therefore, it's human, in my eyes.

The Lounge Feelings about the death penalty? Nov 08 2009
16:08 (UTC)
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Original Post by alibsam:

Original Post by robin9395:

I totally agree with you.  I am absolutely, 100% in favor of the death penalty.  Period.

As an aside, I find it strange that so many people (NOT necessarily those in this forum) oppose the death penalty for murderers, but then think it's okay to murder innocent unborn babies.  Just my opinion.

 

And that's nothing more than hypocrisy. Murder is murder is murder is murder. If you're pro-life you shouldn't be pro-death penalty. It doesn't make sense.

Interesting theory.  By using your logic, if someone commits murder and they get sentenced to life in prison, then someone who jaywalks should get life in prison as well, right?  After all, a crime is a crime is a crime is a crime.

The difference between a murderer being put to death and aborting an unborn baby is huge.  The criminal commits murder knowing full well that the death penalty exists and is a possible punishment.  He knows he could be put to death by choosing to murder and yet he does it anyway.

The child didn't choose to do anything to have murder be a possible outcome.  The child is nothing more than the result of two people performing an act they are not capable of dealing with the consequences of.

The child did not ask to be put in its situation, the criminal did.

And for the person that brought up the Bible as an argument against the death penalty.  The Bible also states "an eye for an eye".  Yes, I know the Bible is full of contradictions, and I don't have an answer for that.  I'm merely pointing out that you can use the Bible to justify capital punishment.

The Lounge Biggest Loser Oct 28 2009
16:11 (UTC)
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Original Post by pavlovcat:

Is it just me or does Liz get more obnoxious with each passing week?

Being a guy, I honestly can't remember the last time I swore at the TV set (except for during Packers games, that is Laughing), but I actually yelled at her to shut the "F" up through my TV set twice last night.  I didn't mind her hating an Tracey the previous weeks, but last night she was just being stupid.

Call it a little bit of a crush, I guess, but I was really hoping Dan would be sent home over Abby.  After all, Dan was in his second go around and I think is ready to go.

But looking at Abby's progress at the end of the end of the show, she was ready too.  She looked great, and I could tell she was 100% ready to move forward.  I wish her all the best.

Motivation Men frustrate me! Oct 22 2009
18:38 (UTC)
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Being a guy myself, I will make no excuse for the "boy" the OP talked about.  But I do want to add a couple of things in our defense:

1) We are not all like that.  Many of us take a lot longer to mature than women and it just takes us a while to get through that "fraternity" stage, where we only want to date women we think will impress our friends.  But most of us outgrow that if we even fall into that stage in the first place.

2) It's not all one-sided.  Many years ago when I was a bartender at a restaurant, I had a friend who worked in the kitchen.  At one point his wife lost a LOT of weight.  She became a lot more confident, and, I'll admit, she was looking a lot better.

Then, out of the blue, she told my friend she wanted a divorce.  She told him point blank that now that she looked better, she could find someone much better than him.

Well, they got divorced and my friend hit rock bottom for a long time.  I've since lost touch with him, although I know he remarried.  But I did run into his ex a few years ago.  She had gained all her weight back and was with a guy that, IMO, offered a lot less than my old friend did.

Anyway, just don't let these experiences jade you and turn you into that kind of person as well.  Keep looking and keep trying.  You'll find the right guy.  There's a lot of us out there and we're not all pr*cks!

The Lounge loose vs lose Oct 13 2009
20:54 (UTC)
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I tend too agree that two many people get those to words mixed up!  Laughing

I'm a bit of a grammar nazi, myself.  With the amount of time I spend reading message boards I have learned to deal with bad grammar and spelling, although it baffles me as to why people don't even seem concerned about getting it right.

It's as if they are convinced that the written word will soon be dead and they just don't care if they ever spell another word right, ever.

The Lounge Your ghost stories Sep 26 2009
17:33 (UTC)
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I actually saw a 50 foot Sta-Puft marshmallow man walking down the streets of New York City several years ago.....SCARY!!!!

The Lounge Your ghost stories Sep 26 2009
17:32 (UTC)
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Original Post by daizymae:

Original Post by dnrothx:

Large Marge sent me.

^ Heh.

That WAS scary. Surprised

And when they pulled the body from the twisted, burning wreck it looked like this!

Motivation I was called a Panda........ Sep 12 2009
01:38 (UTC)
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A couple years ago I was going for a walk.  At one point I neared the driveway to a parking lot, and I noticed a minivan approaching.  As I got closer it came to a stop to wait for me and road traffic.  As I got closer I looked to see if I could see the driver, just so I could tell if they see me or not.

Turns out there were two teenage girls in the car.  As I walked past the van, the girl in the passenger seat opened her door and shouted at me "Fat man walking!".

I turned to look, and she quick shut the door and the driver took off.  I kept on walking, thinking "WTF" to myself.  I did nothing to provoke this and couldn't figure out why she felt compelled to act as she did.

I thought about it for a few minutes then I came to the realization that she was right.  I was a fat man, and I was walking.  I started laughing to myself.  I wound up chuckling for the rest of my walk.

I still don't know why she said it, but I laugh to myself whenever I think about it.  I even have told this story to several friends.  I guess I have a pretty thick skin and just don't let things like that bother me.  It doesn't excuse her actions, but I wasn't about to let her "win" by letting it get to me.  I'm a better person than that.

You are too.  You may allow things to affect you in a different way than I do, but that doesn't make you less of a person.  I can't tell you to just forget what this person said, but try not to let it get to you.  Just know that you are not alone.  Other people are victims of these cruel statements all the time.  You can't control what these idiots say, but you can control how it affects you.

Health & Support Thanks, but no, thanks... Sep 03 2009
23:40 (UTC)

I may be just a dumb guy who's missing something, but have you told them flat out to be open and honest with you?

If you have, try telling them that, while you appreciate their opinions, your intentions are to lose some weight whether they think so or not, and you would appreciate their help and support.

Obviously, they'll still probably tell you you look fantastic even after one pound lost, but you'll know how you feel.  Keep going until you're happy with yourself, and your real friends should support you until you reach your goal.

Support can come in many ways.  It can come from people telling you how it is.  It can come from people just asking if you how your progress is going.  It can come from people asking you how they can help (slapping cookies out of your hand, etc Laughing).

If your friends won't go the "brutally honest" route, find some other way they can help.

The Lounge I hate the letter "Q" Aug 19 2009
01:50 (UTC)
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Original Post by amethystgirl:

Original Post by tryatri:

I do. It's too weird and only works with a "u".


Not in Qatar.

I heard there was originally, but those odd British folk keep taking those "u"s and putting them into words like "favorite" and "color".

The Lounge Free Beer! Aug 01 2009
00:46 (UTC)
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Original Post by pgeorgian:

i didn't get excited.  free beer is always crappy beer.

Everyone knows you wait for the 25 cent tappers.  That's when the classy people come out!

The Lounge should I believe my friend or should I believe the mirror? Jul 30 2009
23:57 (UTC)
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Original Post by safina1:

you know? that is excatly what I am looking for. someone who can accept the overweight me NOW and support me to lose weight. it is hard to find that guy because almost all of them judge the appearance and looks.

anyway, I was just posting here trying to figure out what should I do TOMORROW?Smile

Do you know what makes it hard to find that guy?  What makes it hard is the fact that, even when you get invited out to meet a guy you don't go because you are too nervous.

Sounds like the people here that actually know you seem to think you are pretty terrific.  Bite the bullet and meet the guy.  Maybe it's you that won't find him attractive, and not vice-versa.

If there are sparks, there are sparks.  If there's not, just have a good time and enjoy yourself.  Maybe at least you can make a new friend out of it.

The Lounge Unicorns Jul 24 2009
21:05 (UTC)
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Original Post by hotfuss:

Original Post by majorpayne05:

Why are they called unicorns anyway?  Shouldn't they be called unihorns?

latin origin

I still they should be called unihorns.  It's very descriptive of what they are.

The Lounge Unicorns Jul 24 2009
20:33 (UTC)
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Why are they called unicorns anyway?  Shouldn't they be called unihorns?

Weight Loss Be featured in Health magazine Jul 23 2009
15:37 (UTC)
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Original Post by amethystgirl:

meryl - yes, in fact, I got an email back from "askhealth Generic" (seriously, that was how the email was addressed)

Thank you for writing to Health with your concerns. We really appreciate readers like you who take the time to voice their opinions to us. Please know that I will be passing your email along to our editors, who take our readers' comments very seriously. We depend on letters from readers like you to keep us on target with our audience.
 
Thanks again for writing. We really appreciate it, and we thank you for being a part of the Health family!

Wow, that is just an awesome response.  Really let's you know they took the time to really consider your comments.

It got me curious as to how they would respond to someone who wrote them and said something like "I read your magazine religiously.  I follow every tip and take it all to heart.  The pounds have been just melting off of me and I owe it all to your magazine.  You guys truly have your finger on the pulse of weight loss success.  Keep up the good work, because you are the Bible when it comes to how to live a healthy lifestyle."

I'm not sure, but I have the feeling the response would be something like:

Thank you for writing to Health with your concerns. We really appreciate readers like you who take the time to voice their opinions to us. Please know that I will be passing your email along to our editors, who take our readers' comments very seriously. We depend on letters from readers like you to keep us on target with our audience.
Thanks again for writing. We really appreciate it, and we thank you for being a part of the Health family!

But that's just a guess.

The Lounge 101 ways to say vajayjay... Jul 22 2009
15:40 (UTC)
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Chasing Beaver

The Lounge Palin is...is... Jul 03 2009
22:25 (UTC)
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Yet Joe Biden makes her look like a Rhodes Scholar.  I wonder if he's disclosed the location of any other secret bunkers lately.  If not, maybe he can hide out in one and read up on the swine flu.  Maybe he can take the time to find out which senators are wheelchair bound so he doesn't ask any more of them to stand up.

The Lounge I hate it when posters ... Jul 01 2009
20:59 (UTC)
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Original Post by crazydiamondchrysalis:

Original Post by majorpayne05:

Original Post by crazydiamondchrysalis:

Original Post by majorpayne05:

Original Post by crazydiamondchrysalis:

also, I don't like posters whose screen name starts with "m"

CryCryCry

 so... can't you just change your screen name? heh heh heh

No I can't.  It's way too descriptive of who I am! Laughing

 haha mine too. Laughing

Yea, but nobody ever asked you to change yours!

The Lounge I hate it when posters ... Jul 01 2009
20:55 (UTC)
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Original Post by crazydiamondchrysalis:

Original Post by majorpayne05:

Original Post by crazydiamondchrysalis:

also, I don't like posters whose screen name starts with "m"

CryCryCry

 so... can't you just change your screen name? heh heh heh

No I can't.  It's way too descriptive of who I am! Laughing

The Lounge I hate it when posters ... Jul 01 2009
20:49 (UTC)
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Original Post by crazydiamondchrysalis:

also, I don't like posters whose screen name starts with "m"

CryCryCry

The Lounge You're being tracked... Jun 29 2009
03:36 (UTC)
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Original Post by santonacci:

Since I am a complete non-threat, not only would I not think to look for any evidence of surveillance, it would shock the hell out of me if I happened to discover it by accident.

I'm pretty much a national security nobody.

Gee, that sounds like the perfect response for someone that's TRACKING OTHER PEOPLE!  Come clean now, Santonacci, and no one gets hurt.  Wink

The Lounge Billy May died! Jun 29 2009
03:25 (UTC)
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Original Post by schnooder:

WHY IS EVERYONE COOL DYING!

Gee, thanks for pointing that out.  Now I'll be sleeping very restlessly for the next week at least! Laughing

Seriously, it has been a lousy week for celebs.  My heart goes out to all family members who have suffered a loss recently, famous or not. 

The Lounge Another one bites the dust Jun 29 2009
03:18 (UTC)
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Original Post by qmwillcand:

her you go.

Wasn't really sure if I should actually except it as "fact" reading it on MSNBC, but I found the story elsewhere, so it must be true.

That said, I'm sure the guy was a very decent, ethical and honest man, but he annoyed me to no end.  Maybe it's too soon, as it may offend some people and I apologize, but if the guy could just speak rather than yell, I would have actually listened to him a little more.  Seriously, if the guy had a "tone it down" button his voice would have carried a lot more weight with me.

He actually had some very good products in the "infomercial" world and his enthusiasm will be missed.  RIP Billy.

The Lounge Musical Legends/Prophets Jun 27 2009
00:43 (UTC)
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In no particular order:

  • Stevie Wonder
  • Ray Charles
  • Aretha Franklin
  • Eric Clapton
  • Joe Strummer
  • Danny Elfman
  • Sting
The Lounge Death of Michael Jackson vs death of Elvis Jun 26 2009
16:38 (UTC)
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With a screen name like lizardking, I am surprised you aren't bringing up the early death of Jim Morrison as well.

The Lounge GEAUX TIGERS!!! UT sucks! Jun 25 2009
16:27 (UTC)
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Original Post by amy_blue:

He was born in CT and spent much of his childhood thru college years living there too. Us folks with brains in Texas don't equate ourselves with him. Please do not smear an entire state because of one crappy person. It's not an entire state of obnoxious people. This actually p*sses me off quite a bit. And I'm not even Texan by birth. I know you are maybe joking mostly but it's pretty rude.

Besides, this is a sports thread.  If someone wants to rip on Texas we can all talk about how bad the Dallas Cowboys suck and leave politics out of this.

The Lounge Phrases & Terms that bug me Jun 25 2009
01:47 (UTC)
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I hate it when people start a sentence with "Correct me if I'm wrong, but...".

No.  It's not my job to fact check for you.  Why don't you do a little research, Sherlock, and get back to me when you know what the heck you're talking about!

I am also highly annoyed by listers.  My Mom, God lover her, is a perfect example.  We'll be talking on the phone arranging a time for me to come over and do some yardwork for her or work on her computer.  She'll ask me if I want to stay for supper and I'll say OK.

Then she goes on about how she'll have to clear off the table because it's covered with mail and paperwork and a book of stamps, some pencils, some envelopes, some books she borrowed from my aunt, her laptop, a skein of yarn she pulled out to do some knitting, etc.

You get the idea.  All I need to hear is that the table is cluttered up.  I could care less what it's cluttered with! Wink

The Lounge current lyric expert for Romeo Jun 14 2009
23:55 (UTC)
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Original Post by jblarghp:

Awwww. I thought this thread was going to be about the Dire Straits song "Romeo & Juliet."

I love it when "kids" are into music from my generation.  It doesn't make me feel quite so old.

A couple months ago a friend's son was talking about how he and his friends were getting into punk rock.  I made him a bunch of copies of my Clash, Dead Kennedys and Buzzcocks CDs, among others.  When I gave them to him a few days later he thought I was the coolest 40-year-old he'd ever met.  At least for about 5 minutes or so.

The Lounge Males.....????? Jun 14 2009
20:52 (UTC)
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Unfortunately, tiff, there's really nothing you can do right now.  If he's in another relationship right now, he's off limits.  If you do anything to try to sabotage that relationship, any chance of reconciliation is truley gone.

It sounds like you have some mutual friends.  If you really can't get over this guy, have them keep you up to date with how the relationship is going.  If the current relationship ends, then you can make a move, but not until.

And, obviously, it's all going to depend on who broke up with who as far as how soon afterwords you can let him know how you feel.

In the mean time, there's lots of other guys out there.  Don't wait for what might be.  Live your life.  If it was meant to be, it'll happen.

Good luck!

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