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Health & Support after anorexia.recovery question! help(: Nov 24 2009
04:47 (UTC)
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Breathes - who are these people you are referring to? How long into their "recovery" did you see them and gauge this (the fact that they never got their figures back). What were their ages pre/during/post ED? 

Your body will only punish you if you revert to ED behaviours. If you give it time to trust you again, the weight will redistribute as nature intended for your particular body type. I'm sorry hon, but this calls for patience. You just have to give it time to heal.

Health & Support Wanting to start Intuitive Eating? Nov 24 2009
02:08 (UTC)
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From someone who has been on the recovery bandwagon too many times now (even once is too many), I say with utter conviction that as a previous ED sufferer you will not be able to intuitively eat for quite some time. I think it's great that you are aiming for that goal - and it's certainly something attainable in the future - but I believe that getting there will take a series of smaller steps. As hedgren has stated - focus on continuing to up your cals so that you can maintain at a higher level for a while and see how your body and mind adjust. I thought specca's suggestion was also pretty awesome - and a good step in the right direction to your goal but more manageable at this point in time. From personal experience, I believe that if you try to do the intuitive thing right now, you will end up undercutting yourself and setting yourself up for more disordered behaviour. We all want the very best for you! Best of luck hon xoxoxox

Health & Support after anorexia.recovery question! help(: Nov 23 2009
07:03 (UTC)
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Hello breathes,

I remember your urgent posts of some months ago - may I say you now sound SO much more balanced and "together". For future reference, if ever (God forbid) you feel as if you could be approaching relapse, compare those old posts to this current post. It is literally comparing insanity to sanity. I for one am so so so very pleased to hear you in a much more cohesive frame of mind xox.

I second iceblue's contribution: recovery takes time (entirely dependent on the extent and duration of the illness, and how far one has proceeded in the recovery process). You have not been so long in recovery (though you have made huge in-roads and are sounding MUCH better for it), but the physical changes (and further mental ones, too), will take some time to manifest. Your hair WILL thicken up as long as you continue refeeding as you are - and your body will rebuild itself. The weight you gain also does eventually redistribute as it should. Initially it is stored in what I like to term the "emergency reserve" areas (which your body will personally dictate for itself: for some it is the thighs, some the bum, many primarily the gut/around the vital organs), but as your body learns to trust you again (something only achieved by continuing with a regular and balanced meal plan), it will balance itself in the manner it did previously. And remember, you are only 14 and still developing, so there will be additional changes you can't really account for. You are young hon, and this should work in your favour: i.e. you will be able to bounce back fairly rapidly. Just please, please, please keep going as you are - you deserve a wonderful life.

Love and blessings to you sweetheart xox

PS - I have been through the recovery process (unfortunately, not just once), so if you ever need someone to hash it out with, please don't hesitate to drop me a message.

Health & Support Metabolism / mental state Nov 23 2009
02:46 (UTC)

Thank you so much, everyone. You are all so helpful and lovely xoxox

Health & Support Metabolism / mental state Nov 22 2009
03:59 (UTC)
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I will hang in there. Thank you so much xoxoxox

Health & Support Metabolism / mental state Nov 22 2009
02:30 (UTC)
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Thank you both so much for your invaluable advice and support. I wish I could just SEE things clearly!

Health & Support how bad was this and how should i compensate? Nov 13 2009
12:44 (UTC)
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Butterskid that was an extremely ignorant and damaging post. Please ignore it, sarah. You need to be focusing on recovery. We're here for you xoxox

Health & Support how bad was this and how should i compensate? Nov 12 2009
09:23 (UTC)
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Helen. *Hugs*. I love you girl.

Health & Support My [God willing] Recovery Nov 09 2009
03:21 (UTC)

Tony, I just want to tell you that you look, and more importantly sound as if you feel, ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL!!!! I am really so very happy for you. Yes, you are a wonderful person and you deserve so many awesome things in life, and they will keep coming to you in the absence of the ED. Good on you boy, you are an inspiration to us all! I wish you the absolute best in your continuing journey throughout life. With love, Nina xoxoxoxox

Health & Support My [God willing] Recovery Oct 03 2009
01:20 (UTC)
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Absolutely awesome hon! You're living the life you should be. Don't regret anything - you have learned much from this experience. And now you are working on such wonderful, positive progressions from here on in. Love to you hon! xox

Health & Support My [God willing] Recovery Sep 23 2009
09:14 (UTC)
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And you are beautiful too recovery hon :)

Health & Support My [God willing] Recovery Sep 22 2009
23:36 (UTC)
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*claps* :D

Hooray recovery! I am so happy for you! Bless you hon!!! *hugs* xoxoxoxox

Vegetarian Does a high protein "Vegan" diet exist? Sep 13 2009
23:46 (UTC)

Awesome princess :)

The Lounge why are some people so ugly? Sep 10 2009
08:52 (UTC)
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Original Post by cptbunny:

But one could argue (and I'm not arguing by the way, just putting it out there) if you like you, you wouldn't need to make part of your appearance fake. ;)

Valid point. But I think there can be a difference. I mean, an individual can really appreciate beauty, still see the "plain self" as beautiful, and even so choose to embellish what nature already provided. I think it depends a lot on the spirit in which such actions are undertaken. I definitely think that what you say applies to some though, myself included. When I wear makeup, it tends to be because I look at myself in the mirror and thing "ugh, yuk" - and I don't want to "inflict" myself on others. And yet it wouldn't matter how zitty/scarred/pocked the face of the person sitting next to me on the bus was, I still wouldn't think them unattractive or place any expectations upon them to do the same. 

The Lounge why are some people so ugly? Sep 10 2009
01:47 (UTC)
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Original Post by afluffyadorablebunny:

I do all that sorta stuff that might be artificial...because I like me Smile...

^ I think the fact that you do it out of 'self-LIKE' is key. That's positive. It's not about insecurity and worrying about what others think, but you choose to accentuate the goods and care for yourself for YOU.

The Lounge why are some people so ugly? Sep 09 2009
01:47 (UTC)
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Original Post by cptbunny:

And to answer the new question, ugliness comes from within. Outside doesn't matter if you're shiny on the inside. ;D

Here here! Totally x~!

Health & Support My [God willing] Recovery Sep 06 2009
22:47 (UTC)
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You can do it recovery! Basically, the story you're describing sounds almost identical to mine. And I can truly say that I'm out and about nowadays - so the sedentary bingeing won't be forever. You have just swung from one extreme to the other. Which is why restriction won't work. Moderation/temperance is the lesson here - balancing your meals and eating ENOUGH. And remember, your meals will probably be larger than the meals of those around you for quite some time, until you are recovered. You'll do it hon. You keep going. I'm taking those steps with you in spirit. xox

Weight Gain May I Please Rant? Sep 06 2009
22:43 (UTC)

I do hear what you're saying too, smash. I know I still cringe a bit when people tell me I'm looking "great" now. The whole healthy=fat in the ED mindset. I have to really push through those thoughts. Sometimes I actually feel "guilty" for allowing myself to eat and feel/function properly. Quite ridiculous, but something I'm working with, or rather working to amend. But I know that a lot of the positive comments I got at really low weights were genuine - they weren't people just trying to be nice. But I do emphasise the fact that I was CLOTHED at the time and I held myself with a lot of presence (heightened "perfectionism" due to ED exaggerating my latent neuroticism). 

Health & Support My [God willing] Recovery Sep 03 2009
22:04 (UTC)
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*hugs recovery*

You'll be just fine hon. Remember we're here to support you. You're not alone :) x

Weight Gain May I Please Rant? Sep 03 2009
03:56 (UTC)
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agru - you too hon *hugs* xoxox

Weight Gain May I Please Rant? Sep 03 2009
02:26 (UTC)
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cowcow - so true about one person's statement feeling as if that's how the entire world perceives you. You are particularly susceptible to such comments when in the grips of the anxiety/brain malfunction caused by malnutrition/obsession with weight. It can turn into a truly devastating spiral. I think a lot of us ED sufferers have always cared too much about what others think - We feel as if we lack an 'inner gauge' - and so source confirmation/reassurance externally.

bsh - My ex fiance likewise preferred me at a higher weight. But even that didn't spur me on sufficiently to get better when we were still together, unfortunately. I really had to hit rock bottom before appropriate change could be facilitated. I just clung so hard to ED - there are aspects of it I still cling to (due to faulty thinking). And so now I really am working hard on counting calories to ensure I receive ADEQUATE nutrition to function properly.

Gosh, I just want us all to feel okay in our own skin. All of you beautiful girls deserve to. Heck, if you had BMIs of 30+ you'd STILL be incredible and lovely individuals.

Health & Support My [God willing] Recovery Sep 02 2009
22:29 (UTC)
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Recovery, hon... The bingeing is the body's response to the starvation. As I've told you before, the only way to stop the cycle is by NOT reverting to anorexic/restrictive behaviours in order to compensate for it. Which is why I think for you, a structured meal plan is best. But at these early stages of recovery, don't beat yourself up if you DO binge. It is your body's survival response. At the beginning of my recovery I quite literally had almost NO physical control over them at all. In time, the physical aspect abated. Prozac has really helped me with my OCD tendencies and black and white though processes. Keep us updated and keep going strong - you're worth it hon xoxox

Health & Support everything seems to be going wrong, need a fresh start and advice Sep 01 2009
22:32 (UTC)
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Original Post by gi-jane:

Original Post by ninafish:

What kind of diet clubs would you generally recommend, gi-jane? :)

They've all got strengths and weaknesses.  I quite like the Rosemary Conley club because it combines exercise with a healthy diet... although her diet plan is way too low-fat and has a few other niggles.  Weightwatchers is fine if you can ignore the selling-on that happens and if you stick with healthy eating.  I quite like a site called www.ediets.com which offers people chance to create their own calorie-counted menu-plans from a database....  and the online ones are good if you don't want to be weighed-in and have to sit in a room with other people.

Thanks Jane :) x

Health & Support My [God willing] Recovery Aug 31 2009
21:47 (UTC)
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*hugs* recovery_now

A medication might indeed be helpful. Prozac certainly has assisted me with my obsessive compulsive tendencies and black and white thinking. But pharma-meds aren't the 'cure all'. I think you are taking positive steps in the right direction. You deserve a life free of ED hon. xox

Health & Support everything seems to be going wrong, need a fresh start and advice Aug 31 2009
10:33 (UTC)
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What kind of diet clubs would you generally recommend, gi-jane? :)

Health & Support My [God willing] Recovery Aug 31 2009
10:23 (UTC)
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AIR, I binged for MONTHS during the course of my recovery. I'm not saying that this will happen to you - but my body was literally crying out for food, and lots of it. And I'm talking gargantuan binges - and I'm a 5'3'' female. You need to be on a proper meal plan. But trust me, restricting will just perpetuate the cycle. Your body needs 'excess' calories now. It has a lot of catching up to do - a lot of repair work. But I do believe this is better done in a monitored fashion. Have you considered IP? Basically, I went out of control with my binges - and yes I'm talking months. But do you know what? I'm still not fat. And I have stopped the binges. But everything you described in bold, I experienced.

Weight Gain May I Please Rant? Aug 30 2009
02:55 (UTC)
12

Hey evo :)

Yeah, I recall getting a few negative gasps when I wore certain pants... And I remember one occasion when I was out walking in a singlet top and these girls that passed me literally had their mouths hanging open. This still did not deter me in the slightest - I thought it was just their reaction because "normal western society" was "fat". I was really, truly delusional/psychotic. And I am certain that the "smoking hot" comment would not have been applicable if I had been naked. I just managed to wear clothes incredibly well at lower weights. This can be compared to models I suppose, and the "coat hanger" skeletal bodies they inhabit. This really isn't beauty, it's just about fashion. Truly, most runway models must look 'scary' in the nude. I never gave a flying **** about fashion. It was all just about control for me...

Weight Gain May I Please Rant? Aug 29 2009
04:17 (UTC)
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Yeah, it's pretty disturbing that personal trainers would be doling out this kind of 'advice' - even more so in light of the fact his own daughter has struggled with eating disordered issues (I wonder why?). But yes, people are often really clueless when it comes to these things.

Like ecwk6, people were telling me I was smoking hot when my BMI was at the 14 mark. For a long time this kept me trapped in the delusion - I didn't believe myself to be "smoking hot" but I believed the inherent translation was "just right". So I feared that if I put on any weight at all it would be too much.

At the end of the day, we really need to stop worrying so much about what others think of us. Health is the aim - it MUST be our incentive to gain. Good on you, bsh, for eating your breakfast and recognising just how ridiculous their comments were.

The Lounge Standards of Beauty Aug 27 2009
23:19 (UTC)
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I LOVE unconventional beauty. Really, to be honest, I can find absolutely anyone beautiful in some way - I have yet to find someone who I can't find something beautiful about (and yes that's physically, I don't even need to get to know them first). But yes of course when you add the dimension of personality it is even more pronounced... I do have a particular penchant for things that make people "unique". Like a facial scar, or slightly wonky teeth, or funky eyebrows... I find these kinds of traits much more interesting than the "conventional" norms.

To the OP - it's so inspiring to see you embracing the greek goddess within. You are approaching health and self acceptance in such a positive light. I hope I can follow in your footsteps someday. Good on you girl :)

And to everyone else who has posted - you're all beautiful! You really are :)

Weight Gain recovery yet again uggghh Aug 27 2009
23:02 (UTC)
Original Post by rebelchick1017:

Recovery is not the time to sit in your comfort zone. If you do, then you never really recover. You might get to a better weight, but you will constantly slip back unless you learn to challenge and move on past the ED thinking and beliefs. 

^This. 100%.

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