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Weight Loss New and Confused/P...ed Aug 04 2009
11:49 (UTC)
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I would add an extra 10 - 20% to your calorie intake due to inacurate, averaged or just forgot about calories, also are you exercising ?

My burn has been 2500, and my intake 1800 - 2000 for 10 days due to an injury no exercise, and I didnt loose anything, then I stated exercising (30 minutes on elliptical machine with the fat loss program) and have started to loose weight again but maintaing the calorie intake.

Foods Giving up alcohol Jul 31 2009
18:43 (UTC)
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Original Post by abeltran0122:

Hi, I'm new here so go easy on me please! Smile

I started a diet about 2 months ago, strangely enough it started with getting really, really ill after drinking some tequila (not enough to even be drunk) and then eating sushi. The tequila was brought to me in a VERY, very dirty plastic cup, but being the lush that I was, I rationalized that the alcohol would probably kill anything bad that was in there.... I still don't know whether it was the dirty tequila or the sushi, but I was sick for 10 days, missed work, went to the Dr., antibiotics, yikes!

Anyhow, that started my diet. I NEVER, ever want to be that sick again, and the first thing I lost my appetite for was alcohol! Any type! And I used to LOVE red wine. Like I said, it's been over 2 months and I still have no desire to drink at all. My husband is thrilled, he does not drink and has always told me he didn't like me to drink.

So, just a thought to consider... also, I don't know about you, but when I used to drink, I would get the MUNCHIES and make terrible food choices because I wasn't thinking clearly. Bottom line is, I have lost 16 pounds in 2 months, and I think the alcohol was one of several key factors in that loss.

OK, fire away! :)

I gave it up just while I am loosing weight, as soon as I get to my target weight I will reasses and then re-integrate it beck into my lifestyle .. really love a cool refreshing cider on a hot day ...

As I now know more about food, calories, and how it all works I am sure I can work a couple pints a week in somewhere :)..

p.s. dont really miss it but occationally would kill for a nice glass of english cider :)

Foods Could My Sodium Intake Be REALLY Holding My Progress Back? Jul 27 2009
20:36 (UTC)
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This is a very sad case of somebody who dieted without proper advice, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12025 01/Young-mother-starved-death-diet-soup-water .html.

Everybody here has given you good advice .. eat more to loose weight properly

I am eating bigger quantities of food now than before I began my weight loss, but I am loosing approx 1kg per week (which is about healthy), the difference i am eating healthy well balanced food and the carbs, proteins, fat, sugar, salt etc is being used when needed and where needed and in the correct quantities.

It maybe worth having a word with your doctor or a nutritionist and they can explain to you the types of nutrients you need, in what quantities and what types of food to eat to get the correct balance.

Good luck :)..

 

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
19:06 (UTC)
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Original Post by hkellick:

Original Post by kev100:

I think you need to have a read of one of the links I posted several pages back on the effects of circumcision on a baby I am pretty sure the pain is NOT the same as a little girl having her ears pierced

Sir,

Please get off your high horse. You've now argued with anyone who tried to throw logic at you, which says far more about you than it does them and you've insulted anyone who might, for reasons of their own, choose to circumcise a child.

You are not an expert of circumcision. This is clear. You have a right to your opinion but whom are you to throw your vitriol at the rest of us?

So I say again, get off your high horse and learn to accept that there are people with differing opinions from you.

PS... you get a lot farther along with a little education and a chance for people to read and decide for themselves then you do repeatedly bashing them over the head with your so-called logic.

High horse .. yea sure

anyway I am responding to posts made here .. where I live its called freedom of speach.

just like the freedom of choice that I would like to have to be circumcised or not .. GET IT

I was done because of medical reasons, both my brothers were not.

No I am not a medical expert on circumsision, but I can read and I choose to read articles that have medical back up and scientific fact

I know first hand how it can effect somebody in a negative way.

What I have been saying is that its the choice of the individual to have it done, as its not a life threatening issue and most pro people here seem to want to have it done for looks I have simply been supplying information of the very great negative effects this procedure can have on somebody, both psychological and physical.

 

 

 

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
18:45 (UTC)
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Original Post by kathygator:

Original Post by kev100:

Original Post by kathygator:

I think since there is enough evidence both for and against, the predominance in society to judge being what it is, I would still be inclined to select it.

I think the suppostion by some here that it is patently irresponsible to even consider it, is a bit extreme.

I wonder what your baby son would say to you if he could talk and you told him you were going to cut of the end of his manhood ........ I am pretty sure he wouldnt say sure go ahead because there is a very very small chance that there maybe some very minor health benefits, if any,

As in the OP's original post

The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) says the benefits of circumcision are not significant enough to recommend circumcision as a routine procedure and that circumcision is not medically necessary

 Both sons are happy to have been circumcized - and both shudder at the thought of going through it now. At infancy it can have hurt no more than those who have their little girls' ears pierced.  Now would be quite a different experience, I should think.

 

I think you need to have a read of one of the links I posted several pages back on the effects of circumcision on a baby I am pretty sure the pain is NOT the same as a little girl having her ears pierced

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
18:43 (UTC)
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Original Post by splitrail:

Original Post by kev100:

Rubbish .. see my post above. sorry this is now my last post :)..

 

Just putting a few incorrect posts right ...

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
18:34 (UTC)
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Original Post by kathygator:

I think since there is enough evidence both for and against, the predominance in society to judge being what it is, I would still be inclined to select it.

I think the suppostion by some here that it is patently irresponsible to even consider it, is a bit extreme.

I wonder what your baby son would say to you if he could talk and you told him you were going to cut of the end of his manhood ........ I am pretty sure he wouldnt say sure go ahead because there is a very very small chance that there maybe some very minor health benefits, if any,

As in the OP's original post

The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) says the benefits of circumcision are not significant enough to recommend circumcision as a routine procedure and that circumcision is not medically necessary

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
18:29 (UTC)
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Original Post by eddiepotter:

i'm a fan of it 100% and it would be better to do it.  it's simple so why not have it done?  If it is just THAT much healthier to have it done...DO IT!!!!

It was done to me in 1980, and I **** like a porn star....no problems at all.....TRUST ME......but eehhhh whatever.  My son will have it done...well when I have one :)

Like father like son Ehh ... you will be able to get them out and compare when he gets older ;)..,

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
18:26 (UTC)
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Original Post by jules817:

i think instead of altering my sons body to protect him from STDs, i'll just teach him about having safe sex.

 

practising safe sex will prevent you and the person you are having sex with from contracting an STD, circumcision wont protect you or the person you are having sex with from STD's

So whether your son is cut or not will not protect him, only if he practises safe sex will he be protected.

you wouldn't amputate a healthy woman's breasts just because some women have a high chance of getting breast cancer and amputating will stop her getting it..

This is the logic that many people have been using here and it just doesn't add up if you think of it in these terms, well it doesn't add up to me anyway in any terms.

 

 

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
18:19 (UTC)
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Original Post by spuckine1:

Original Post by swearimn:

Has anyone actually seen a female cirumcision? when I visited Africa, they had a huge festival to celebrate the young girls, coming of age, and finally being circumcised, the girls weren't upset they viewed it as an honor. and yes I know that this is not always the case. When it comes to male circumcision, with my son and in the absence of any religieous constraints, I did a lot of research weighed the options and made the best medical decision I could. and I wouldn't worry about teasing because quite honestly fewer and fewer parents are having there kids circumcised, its not nearly the issue it was twenty years ago.

 I find it funny that the majority of these post sound very American and Very postmodern, not necessarily a bad thing, just very interesting..

Yes lets celebrate no anaesthetic, being held down having a man go at you with a knife(its not a dr. or professional) then sewing you up so there is barely an opening for urine and menstraul blood to pass thru.  Then once you get married off the actual act of intercourse is so painful women rndure a lifetime of pain from this so called rite of passage.  But this veres away from the op question

Just a quick correction to your post, most female circumcisions are performed by women, and usually female family members of the the victim.

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
18:17 (UTC)
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Original Post by hayleymajayley:

What if the 10 second snip goes horribly wrong and cuts off your weiner? Then your parents say **** IT and just give you a sex change, which I'm sure would just turn out fine and dandy.

 

Not saying it happens often, or even more than once, but hey. I'd rather not risk something going wrong. A penis is a pretty important body part you know?  Just doesn't seem worth the risk to me.

There are alot more problems with circumcision in later life that are not apparent in an infant and a child, these are :

Tight circumcision. Notice that the median raphe (the dark line on the underside of the penis running down the midline from the frenulum and continuing down the scrotum) has been twisted more that 90 degrees counterclockwise (the line extending directly vertically down from arrow 1). This would be the result of not joining up the two cut edges of tissues correctly. The circumcision is so tight that the body of the penis appears to buckle inside its skin (the protrusion indicated by the black line). Also, the base of the penis is actually covered by scrotal skin pulled up onto the shaft of the penis

Hairy penis. The removal of virtually all of the normal shaft skin has pulled up hair-bearing skin from the base of the penis and scrotum to the circumcision scar line. Not only unsightly, the hair interferes with comfort during intercourse. Arrow 1 shows remnant of frenulum, arrow 2 shows the circumcision scar with hair growing right up to it. Arrow 3 shows scrotal skin pulled up on the penile shaft. Obviously, the location of hair-bearing skin cannot be judged when circumcision is done to a child.

Skin Bridge. In newborns, the foreskin has not yet separated from the glans. Circumcision leaves a raw wound from what will become the circular circumcision scar on the shaft all the way foreward to the end of the penis. Commonly, a segment of the raw glans heals to the remaining shaft skin, forming a skin bridge. The penis may pull to one side during erection, and cleaning under the skin bridge may be difficult. Repair requires more surgery

Tight circumcision. The area between arrows 1 and 2 is the only remaining original shaft skin. The area above arrow 1, which is at the circumcision scar, was originally the inner mucosa of the foreskin. The area below arrow 2 is scrotal skin pulled up onto the penis, the base of which is marked by arrow 3. This erect penis appears to be smaller than it is because of the scrotal skin covering roughly a third of the shaft.

Keratinization of glans. The glans (head) of the penis is normally protected by the foreskin and maintains a moist, smooth surface. When permanently exposed by circumcision, it becomes thicker and more leathery.

Extremely tight circumcision. This circumcision is so radical that the testicles are pulled up onto the shaft of the penis during erection. Arrow 1 denotes the circumcision scar, arrow 2 shows the beginning of scrotal skin. So the area between arrows 1 and 2 shows the remaining original shaft skin. Arrow 3 show the base of the penis hidden behind the scrotum. At least 80% of the original penile skin must have been amputated to produce this result. The remaining skin gradually stretches with growth, but may result in painful erections during puberty and later. Sometimes tearing or bleeding of the skin occurs during sexual activity.

Note: None of these circumcisions would be considered a circumcision "complication." The only complications considered in the medical literature are those occuring in the period immediately after the procedure. The problems shown above would not likely be evident until sexual maturity. Many men with similar circumcisions may not even be aware that certain sexual problems they experience are a result of their poorly done circumcison.

Is it really worth the risk for something that is not necessary or needed

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
17:59 (UTC)
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Original Post by loriklorik:

Not that all these things will happen or be an issue for everyone... but why add on these issues for a piece of skin that doesn't actually do anything? (the sensation of the penis is around the head, not the foreskin). Its a 10 second snip as a baby and then its over and life goes on.... its more of a reason of "why not?".

The following article has graphic photo's so please dont look if you are offended

The foreskin is so much more than just a useless and redundant peice of skin, and as such is very important.

http://indra.com/~shredder/intact/anatomy/

Also the risk of problems during circumcision in infants, either minor or severe is between 1% - 5%, this doesn't necessary reflect the very small risk of health problems that an uncircumcised person will have in the future if he employs correct personal hygiene, which is in the 1% to 2% bracket.

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
15:08 (UTC)
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Original Post by pavlovcat:

Original Post by kev100:

and there are absolutely no valuable pro's for circumcision

 Uncircumcised men who are exposed to the HIV virus through sexual intercourse are much more likely to contract the disease.

Rubbish .. see my post above. sorry this is now my last post :)..

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
15:07 (UTC)
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Well it seems that not everyone believes that the individual has rights over their own body (I am not talking about you bagga as your cousin is making the choice himself)

So my last post on this subject is a link to a host of information that I would suggest anybody thinking of this procedure read thoroughly.

http://www.ukcoalition.org/HIV-Prevention/203 18.htm

And I hope I have given you all some good info

 

 

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
14:52 (UTC)
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Original Post by crazineko:

The choice to circumcise or not is in the hands of the parents. 

 

 

Cant actually beleive you said that .. but it takes all sorts

Has nobody actually thought that us boys have a foreskin for a reason, we are born with it and its a natural part of our bodies.

you wouldn't amputate any other healthy part of your body for no good reason.

and there are absolutely no valuable pro's for circumcision

 

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
14:49 (UTC)
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Original Post by bagga:

I never said babies don't feel pain...but the reality is a baby isn't ambulatory, it depends on others to move about, a newborns penis is flaccid, where as in a young adult or man the penis is a living organism doing things of it's on will that could put stress on the surgical arena. Also young men and grown males probably aren't going to recover in a diaper laying around the crib being feed at the bosom of their mommies for two weeks.

 I have no dog in this fight as I am blissfully without an attached penis, and have no aversion to either style. I'll let you know what my nephew has to say about it after the procedure.

:).. would be interesting to hear .. but I suggest you tell him to do a little more research as to the effect on him in the future, especially sexual effects, he may not understand at his young age how important sex will be in the future.

 

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
14:44 (UTC)
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Original Post by pavlovcat:

Dude.  Kev.  Relax.

Typical comment from a girl who doesnt understand how important this is to a male ... guess you wouldnt say relax if you were circumcised as a child !!!!!!!

Somebody asked for advice and I will give it .. so add something useful to the discussion or nothing at all :)..

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
14:41 (UTC)
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The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
14:39 (UTC)
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Original Post by kaetlynm:

kev, very interesting article.  I am glad you posted it.  I plan on having children in the next couple of years, and circumcision is something I really only started thinking about when I met my husband 2 years ago (like I mentioned before, he is not circumcized). 

Your welcome :).. and my advice .. dont do it :)...why create a future issue when there is no need to ...

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
14:36 (UTC)
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Also lets not forget that many people believe that circumcising  their children (especially religious people) is a cure a cure to stop masturbation.

I can tell you its not ;).. and there is no scientific proof that it does stop it.

Have a good read and see what you will be denying your sons if you have them circumcised, and then tell me that they wont resent you for it !!!

http://www.menweb.org/svocirc.htm

Do you really want them to know that you are the reason for a diminished sexual feeling when they are older, for NO GOOD REASON other than what YOU decided was good for them, sorry meant to say what you decided was good for YOU ???????

 

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
14:21 (UTC)
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Original Post by kae03:

my nephew isn't...he was adopted from Romania when he was 5.  He has had a lot of issue keeping things clean.  he spent many years with infections coming and going.  At 15 he doesn't anymore, but they considered doing it, but as said before it is much more complicated when they are not infants

I think keeping it clean shouldn't really be an issue, from when we were young (my brothers and myself) were taught by our dad how to keep it clean, which we all did (can you imagine 3 kids in the bath cleaning it haha :) )... untill I was circumcised, but I still remember both my brothers cleaning themselves even though I didnt have to.

 

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
14:15 (UTC)
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Original Post by bagga:

 

The pain and recovery time is far more intense than that of an infant, the potential for infection and other side effects is far greater and the cost is highly increased. For most insurance companies at this stage of the game it is elective surgery.

Dont be certain that the pain for a baby is no more intense than that of an adult, and that that pain doesn't have any effect on that baby, and that the operation is any more safe for a baby.

At least as an adult or a teen you are aware of what is happening and you know you are going to have to accept the pain that goes with it and can understand why you are having this done.

As I said I was done for medical reasons when I was about 6 or 7 and I understood the reasons then why because they were explained to me by my parents, and that fact that I had severe pain because I was not circumcised,

both my brothers were not circumcised, and as a growing child I used to get teased by my brothers which did have an effect on me, and made me question why my parents made me have it done, of course as I grew older I knew they had no choice, but it did put a strain on my family life as I was growing up, and my interaction with girls in my teenage years. Now I am not bothered by it because I have accepted it and I know it was done for A VERY GOOD REASON.

So please lets not pretend that this operation does not effect a child's life in one way or another.

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
12:42 (UTC)
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Original Post by hkellick:

Original Post by huggitbear:

Original Post by hkellick:

Original Post by watergirl:

but see hk, i couldnt stand the thought of that "relatively minor surgical procedure". i couldnt bear the thought of doing that to my boy, but im not jewish so i thinks its a whole different deal, because it is a decision.

I respect your beliefs and I have no quarrel with those that don't see any point having a circumcision.

My point, as such, is simply that it's a personal choice and I'm not sure it's something that the nation as a whole should need to get worked up over or have their attitudes changed about.

It is a very different deal being born Jewish, however. Circumcision is simply.. a reality. To choose not to circumcise is an act against your faith.

I think the nation should change its attitude.  I think it should change its attitude to be more like yours--that it is a personal choice and nothing to tease about.  Unfortunately, I don't believe most people think/behave that way.  People can be cruel.  To have someone tease you about your "dirty" intact body and to make you feel ashamed about your body-- now that is something I don't wish for anyone.  Even if people don't REALLY believe the nasty things they say, things are still said, and when it is something you may be insecure about to begin with it really hurts.  I have heard this firsthand, and that is what I am afraid of for my boy.

I'm afraid that's people for you.

I wish it weren't. I wish people were generally nicer to each other, but.. let's be honest... I don't think there's a single person on this website who hasn't had to deal with a nasty crack about their weight, or other things. My point? People are cruel.

I don't think you should decide whether to circumcise your boy on whether or not he will get teased. He will. If it isn't for that, it'll be for something else.. his nose, his hair, his name.. or worse.

What do you want for him? What does the father of the kid want for him? I think that's all that should matter.

What about what the child wants, and what he wants when he will be a young man ?.... or doesnt that matter ? nose, hair or whatever is how you are born, mutilating a child is a choice that YOU make ....

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
12:40 (UTC)
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Huggitbear,

You may want to read this article (although it has Jewish references I didn't post the link for religious reasons), I did post it because it has a huge amount of information on the effects circumcision has on a baby and an individual.

I think that all doubt as to whether to circumcise or not will diminish and you will leave your little boy intact :)

http://jewishcircumcision.org/spectator.htm

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
12:16 (UTC)
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Original Post by watergirl:

kev, well it IS a personal decision, and in hk's defense, it is part of his religion. are you seriously attacking the jewish faith or merely circumcision as a human rights violation?

Hi watergirl

I wouldn't attack any religion because as long as its not forced on somebody then its that individuals right to follow that religion, and as long as that religion doesn't cause harm to others in the name of that religion,

I do have a problem when religion is used as an excuse for certain acts, I have strong views on circumcision because I have had it done, and mine was for a real medical issue, how I would feel if it was done for religious reasons or because my parents wanted it done for me I dont know how I would be feeling, but I would definitely resent the fact that I had no choice in it.

Circumcision without the consent (or knowledge) of the individual, unless needed for a medical reason, no mater what the circumstances is definitely a human rights issue (as female circumcision is seen around the developed world).

I would actually be interested to hear the reasons why on religious grounds there is a need to perform circumcision, what are the beliefs, the reasoning the reason, why it needs to be done and the origin of the reason why it should be done, its something I have never looked into but would be very interested to know.

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
11:49 (UTC)
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Original Post by hkellick:

I know of two reasons why a man may want his child to be circumcised: the first is religious. I was circumcised because I'm Jewish. My child may be the same. The other is that dad wants his little boy to resemble himself in that one particular way.

Either way.. I'm not sure why it matters or why we should hope that Americans views change on this.

I dont think that there is any reason (except medical) why circumcision should be forced upon a new born baby who has NO say in what is happening to his body

I do not understand why religion always has to come into arguments as a reason, I am not religious and have my own personal views on religion, especially when it inflicts personal injury onto a defenceless person, whether that is a baby, an adult, a woman being stoned to death because she has been raped etc ...  religion is an excuse used by too many to justify  what many would see as barbaric actions, i personally think taking away part of somebody's body without their knowledge (as with a newborn) or against their will a great offence of personal liberty and justice and human rights.

I know of several guys who have had circumcision in their teens and early twenties, on was for medical and the 2 others was for personal choice and of course there are risks, there are also risks when you are a baby or a child, risk of infection being the main risk, but this point is not the issue here, the point is to give the child the choice when they are older if they choose to do it when they want to do it, by being given the information of pro's and con's and risk it is THEIR choice.

I also find it quite absurd that most people in the world think that female circumcision and mutilation (mostly in the name of religion or because its the thing to do and has been throughout the ages in the cultures of the offenders) is terrifying and barbaric (which it is) but male circumcision and mutillation is fine.

Does anybody in these situations ever think of the individual and the way that this operation may effect that individual both emotionally and physically in the future, or are they just thinking of their own personal views and needs at that time.

I also think it quite strange and twisted that a father would want to harm and mutilate his son so that he resembles him ... that's just weird.

Get real .. we live in the 21st century where human rights are supposed to be paramount in a civilised world.

p.s. I know I am going to get flamed for this post ...

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
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Original Post by bombacho:

I was circumcized because at the time it was the popular thing to do for cleanliness I guess or appearance. Now I only have one problem and its kinda big. I went to see a urologist because it happened that when having relations, preservatives ruined all the sensation for me. To which the doctor later mentioned that is was common on many circumcized people seeing as the.... um... "tip" is always free to enjoy the pleasures of life and thus it is used to friction... simply caused by your underwear, jeans, etc. So at the time of protecting oneself you basically remove the pleasure it enjoyed even when not having relations and you quickly end up suffocating it. To which point we always had to end up relying on her contraceptives. (and no.. no matter how ultra sensetive or ribbed they may be, one needs to be free).

I understand where you are coming from, using a condom for me now is not an option because I loose most feelings, so as with you contraception has to be left to the girl, of course also this has other health issues as far as STD go, I have checks every 6 months and to date have always been free from STD, but that may not always be the case.

As far as long term health and sexual enjoyment goes he needs to be intact.

Of course I cant comment on the feeling of an intact "member",

Health & Support Nutritionist going to make me fat!?? Jul 21 2009
09:03 (UTC)
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Your body will adapt and repair itself if you look after it, so dont worry too much :)... Things will only get better if you REALLY want to recover and eat and look normal :)..

 

The Lounge circumcision Jul 21 2009
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If most boys in the states are circumsised then whats the problem about being teased, most girls will already know that.

I am circumsised and have never once been teased about it, I think the appearance is better and all the girls I have been with like the look, and most prefer it.

alternatively, you can let your son decide himself when he gets older if he wants to be circumsised.

I was done because of medical reasons, I would hate to have had the choice taken away from me of what is an unreversable operation that disfigures (I use that word because circumcision isn't natural, even though i like the look better) the MOST important part of a mans body.

Like I say when your child has no voice you make the decisions for him, but he will grow and become independant and if you take something away from him that could create psychological effects on him, he may resent you for that for the rest of his life.

My advice ... leave him intact ... its his choice not yours, and its a choice he will make if and when he sees fit.

 

Health & Support Nutritionist going to make me fat!?? Jul 20 2009
23:08 (UTC)
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I am not actually quite sure how nutritionists work,

I think if I was a nutritionist then I would work out a dozen or so daily eating plans with specific foods the the client likes and needs, with information about calorie content, proteins/carbs and fats for each meal, and not serve suggestions for food groups or types, its very vaugue and not very appetising to look at, at least this way the client will have a good understanding of calories, proteins/carbs and fats and other nutrients

When I look at this list and then look at my daily lists in my calorie count food log I know which one I would prefer to choose.

Maybe you should ask your nutritionist to discuss with you your food likes and dislikes and then create several eating plans based on that, with actual foods listed including all information (and not serve suggestions but actual weight measurements which will help you in the future when you are confident enough to come of your nutritionists plans)

also have a look at this thread .. there are some good suggestions there from people like you recovering, you may be able to contact them directly about their experiences and what works and doesnt work.

http://caloriecount.about.com/post-recovery-m eal-plan-ft64552

I also found this on another site from somebody recovering that explains a little what some of the foods and nutrition does when recovering

Hi there!
I am very pleased you want help!
I am new to the forum!!
I am a recovering anorexic and it is going quite well. I'm attending an eating disorder clinic (initially against my will) and they have explained to me the calories etc... I need to put on weight steadily (around 1lb a week).

Breakfast - 2 slices toast with spread or bowl of cereal

Snack - Yoghurt/pancake/scone/bun/crisps etc...

Lunch - Sandwhich with protein filling (ham, chicken, cheese) and with butter or mayo, followed by a lighter desert (yoghurt/apple etc...)
You need a source of carbohydrate, dairy and protein

Snack 4pm - SAME AS FOODS AS SNACK BEFORE carbohydrate

Dinner - carbohyrates such as 2 small potatoes, rice, cous cous, pasta or bread
- source of protein such as sausage, 3 fishfingers, chicken breast, mince (2 ladels), steak, pork, fish
- vegetables
Dessert - cheesecake, custard

Supper - toast/ cereal/ tea and biscuits etc...

Keep your fluids up so you don't get dehydrated, milk is great and it also coats your stomach so you will belch less often!

Carbohydrates are good as they release energy and put on muscle rather than fat.

You need the 2-3 portions of protein to encourage muscle building so your strength increases

Vegetables are needed to get your vitamins so your nails and hair etc... will become stronger. Vit C is needed to absorb iron especially for muscle building and greens are great too.

Dairy is vital to maintain calcium as you don't want to lose bone mass. I have severe osteoporosis and i'm 16 so not fun!

One suggestion I have is to eat REALLY slowly chewing everything right down. You won't get as full as fast or feel bloated. Initially you might bloat slightly but that is only due to water retention it's not actual weight going on but it can be a bit frightening. Also, maybe avoid really spicey foods initially as they could result in indigestion.

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