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| Weight Loss | If you want to look like a celebrity you have to eat like one! Here is how many cals the celebs eat--shocking! | Dec 12 2007 16:47 (UTC) |
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| A post on a message board can't give anyone an eating disorder--- Eating disorders are a hell of a lot more complex than that, and are often born out of social, emotional and personal factors coupled with a time of stress or change--in other words even if someone wanted to starve him/herself skinny or even if he or she tried to starve... unless he/she has all the other factors that can contribute (note I said "CAN CONTRIBUTE') to an ED then he/she is not likely to last long on 500 cals a day. You can try it and unless you have a true ED you never will be able to do it for more than 2 days....and a post is not going to "confirm" or "give" anyone an ED...actually thinking like this really shows how truly ignorant some people are with regards to what causes or what is involved in the psyche of someone with an ED. Some of you just love to argue and don't even know what you are arguing about...I'm done with this thread and the miserable people that post simply to argue for nothing! | |||
| Weight Loss | If you want to look like a celebrity you have to eat like one! Here is how many cals the celebs eat--shocking! | Dec 11 2007 21:54 (UTC) |
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| Tommy we're in agreement. In reference to eating less to lose weight well that's just a statement of fact and my idea of eating less is a 500 calorie a day deficit. I simply didn't understand people who advice others who are only having a 500 cal a day deficit to "eat more to lose weight". If you want to go on past this point then you are trying to start a fight and I will ignore you, perhaps you should try to figure out what is really bothering you rather than take all your anger out on stranger who don't even know anything about. | |||
| Weight Loss | If you want to look like a celebrity you have to eat like one! Here is how many cals the celebs eat--shocking! | Dec 11 2007 21:21 (UTC) |
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| Tommyantwingy ..lol do you have any clue how many private messages I got from people on here telling me they agreed with me? Then the stupid thread was locked and well you know the rest...I'm not the one who is on any stump my dear and I don't care what you or anyone else thinks about how weight is lost ..do whatever works for you okie...seems to me you want to carry on with a topic that was closed weeks ago and you best do that without me. | |||
| Weight Loss | If you want to look like a celebrity you have to eat like one! Here is how many cals the celebs eat--shocking! | Dec 11 2007 21:17 (UTC) |
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| Actually Jesse that is so true. I met Kim Bassinger (sp?) during the filming of Lesser Child. It was being filmed right behind my building when we lived in Toronto. Anyways I was shocked to see that in real life what stood before me was a rather ponchy middle aged regular momish looking woman with very brittle strawberry blonde hair.--she looks quite different on film and the million dollar pale blonde extensions coupled with good camera angles and undergarments give her a totally different effect. She is still very pretty regardless, but the point is she looked very natural and Also met Christine Applegate (I think that's her name) now she is actually VERY thin in real life (kind of short too) yet she doesn't even look THAT skinny on film...she is also very very freckled but you can't tell on film or in her pictures. I don't see what's wrong with freckles or why they airbrush them out ...I have them and I like them! | |||
| Weight Loss | If you want to look like a celebrity you have to eat like one! Here is how many cals the celebs eat--shocking! | Dec 11 2007 21:03 (UTC) |
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| yeah that's exactly what I'm saying hkellick! Thanks for picking up on that! I think it's really misinformed, especially for the young girls on here, to think for a minute that setting goals to be "super skinny" will happen if they "eat healthy." I just think it that healthy and skinny are two very different things...I don't even think the female body is meant to be very skinny by nature...these celebs are doing things to themselves that prove right there that there is no such thing as "naturally skinny with a BMI of 18 or less" WHATEVER!! If you are a female over the age of 16 there is no way you are "naturally" below a BMI of 18. Anyways we all want to be healthy and obviously that means choosing to eat healthy and not starving to be some abnormal size and then claiming it's just natural. | |||
| Weight Loss | If you want to look like a celebrity you have to eat like one! Here is how many cals the celebs eat--shocking! | Dec 11 2007 20:53 (UTC) |
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| purespark you don't have to believe it ...I suppose it makes much more sense to think that people with a BMI of 18 or less are simply "working out a lot and eating healthy"...whatever! I don't really care if it's a gossip mag, people who are underweight are most likely doing something to support a low body weight and I'll bet you money it isn't eating 1200-1500 cals a day. | |||
| Weight Loss | If you want to look like a celebrity you have to eat like one! Here is how many cals the celebs eat--shocking! | Dec 11 2007 20:49 (UTC) |
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| purespark---so you're saying you don't believe it? But I think it's fact!
Kathygator--no not at all! I think it's important to put it out there that what the celebs do isn't healthy. I don't think it's realistic for some people to think they will ever be as skinny as a model etc eating like a normal healthy person, because the celebs obviously do things that are not natural to get an abnormally skinny body. Demila--an hour of cardio does not burn 2100 cals a day!! That's funny! |
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| Weight Loss | Just need some people's opinion | Nov 29 2007 21:48 (UTC) |
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| Actually I think calorie cycling or zig-zagging is the best way to go BUT the zig-zag you have up there averages to just a little over 1500 cals a day and I'd just suggest that you make sure that is not too many calories for your stats and lifestyle. If you weight 130 or less and you're not active then you are not likely to lose weight on an average caloric intake of 1500 a day. You might lose but it will be at a rate of 1-2 pounds a month. You were worried you were not losing fast enough on 1200-1300 a day so how is 1500 a day going to work out for you? Anyways it doesn't hurt to try I guess. | |||
| Weight Loss | American size 0? | Nov 29 2007 02:13 (UTC) |
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| rastnim no no silly you are not wearing fatty sizes and just look at you--you are so thin!! Please don't speak this way about yourself!! Talk about your body with respect and btw I added you because I also have screwed up body image issues and yup I also used to have an ED--who hasn't?! I'm just learning to deal with it.
But you can't go posting about wanting to be a size zero on this forum--they'll burn you at the stake!! lol |
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| Weight Loss | American size 0? | Nov 29 2007 01:12 (UTC) |
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| rastnim when I was in London in May of this year I felt that the size 4 there was huge!! Then again I had tried on a size 4 Barbour jacket and maybe Barbour is just made big but they didn't even make anything smaller than a 4. Then I tried on some clothes at a store called Dorothy Perkins and that is suppose to be for College aged girls and still the clothes was sort of big but not as big as at Barbour.
I wear an American size 4-6 (I shop at A&E, Abercrombie, Jcrew etc) but really I want to be a zero and finally I just bought my winter coat and the size zero fits perfectly. I do not even think I look skinny and I'm not! I look thin/slim but I'm not tall (5'4) and I'm really small framed/small boned so that's probably why I need the smaller sizes. I would be skinny if I took a size zero and was taller but when you are only 5'4 it just means you are normal/slim.
I thought people were suppose to be smaller in Europe but they were not so small. The big difference I noticed was that people in England are thin-average or maybe a little chubby like only 10-15 pounds overweight and that's sort of what you can expect in Canada too. When I first moved to America 4 years ago from Canada I was mortified at how obese they are here!! This is the biggest difference between Europe and America--you see plump people all over the world but you only see obese people in the United States and there are so many of them, and the kids here are obese too! They just don't even know what a normal portion is here and it's sad :( |
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| Weight Loss | People who give bad diet advice "Eat more to lose" *rant* | Nov 28 2007 01:28 (UTC) |
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| Kristen oh my God that article seems to be every CCers only source in justifying adding more cals...and yeah right all she had was a few cookies in her binges. Ridiculous! | |||
| Weight Loss | People who give bad diet advice "Eat more to lose" *rant* | Nov 28 2007 01:26 (UTC) |
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| kristen I know my opinions on here are really not that popular and that's because a lot of people on here really just want to eat more. I have seriously cut down on my posting because I feel that if someone is already eating enough calories and not losing that they should not add more calories and CCers tend to think adding more calories is always the solution. Like I said a million times now I promise I will never open this topic again here and don't worry I really don't care who yells at me on here ...sometimes people with issues do that to make themselves feel better about justifying eating more. | |||
| Weight Loss | People who give bad diet advice "Eat more to lose" *rant* | Nov 27 2007 23:57 (UTC) |
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| nycgirl yeah I got the private message and ..whatever I don't care. Like I said I will not be opening my mouth up about this touchy topic again.
Can you do me a favor now and quit deleting my post where I correct someone called brafababe for thinking I'm a guy...I'm a girl! Or is being a girl a violation of CC posting "guildlines" as well? It's true most people do not know what their maintenance cals are and it is different for everyone. I think finding that out takes some trial and error but it is so worth it because it's like having your body's secret password. |
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| Weight Loss | People who give bad diet advice "Eat more to lose" *rant* | Nov 27 2007 23:45 (UTC) |
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| hey momto2siameses yes I know you don't have any reason to lie and wow that is really crazy that you were only eating 600 cals a day!! That's how much anorexics eat and yet you weighed 160?! How in the world is that possible?! But eating 600 cals a day did not make you weigh 160 because by that logic if we all ate too little we'd be overweight!! And apparently eating like an anorexic causes weight gain??? *scratches head* okay we all know what to do to avoid weight gain--don't eat 600 cals. I do believe if you don't eat enough you slow the metabolism right down but still 600 is so low you'd think it would have caused you to at least lose 5 pounds. Oh well, at least you lost the weight in a healthy way!! YAY!! Congrats! | |||
| Weight Loss | People who give bad diet advice "Eat more to lose" *rant* | Nov 27 2007 23:37 (UTC) |
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| Mods why do you keep deleting my post where I say I don't think anyone here is stupid or uneducated but it is a medical fact that eating more (assuming you already eat enough) will not cause weight loss? and to correct brafatbabe...I'm a girl, not a guy!! Edited Nov 28 2007 00:49 by smwhipple |
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| Weight Loss | What exercise burns the most calories? | Nov 27 2007 23:22 (UTC) |
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| I think jump rope or running are pretty good calorie burners. Boxers have long known their value. I hate both but they work if you need to burn a lot of calories or get out of a plateau. When I don't care about burning a lot of calories but just want to have fun I just do aerobics...it doesn't feel like a workout when you are dancing! | |||
| Weight Loss | People who give bad diet advice "Eat more to lose" *rant* | Nov 27 2007 23:12 (UTC) |
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| momto2siamesees I just read your post and congrats on the weight loss. I'm sorry but I have a real hard time believing that you gained weight eating 600 cals a day at 160 pounds?! That is physically impossible unless you have a glandular problem. 600 isn't even enough calories to support 160 pounds so what do you want me to think? If I say anything like I don't believe it then it's sort of like I'm calling you a liar. Anyways like I said I will never again mention this topic... it is too touchy for most CCers. I like the beachbody website--those people know how to drop fat, gain lean muscle and get the job done and nobody on there talks about eating more calories to lose weight. None of the i'm eating 1600 calories and is this enough whine. On Beachbody they just follow a healthy low calorie and low fat diet and move their body and they get amazing results! The main reason I come here is for my messages, but then I always make the stupid mistake of browsing these boards and thinking what is up with these CCers?! Same old posts about not eating enough nonsense --it comes across an excuse to eat more and because of the CC attitude toward dieting it does not make my opinions too popular around here (as I'm sure you can see). Anyways sorry I opened my mouth up about this topic again. I will have to browse the boards and just keep my fingers shut. | |||
| Weight Loss | People who give bad diet advice "Eat more to lose" *rant* | Nov 27 2007 22:55 (UTC) |
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| lol at jesse Umm actually I am happy and healthy but good luck to you. | |||
| Weight Loss | People who give bad diet advice "Eat more to lose" *rant* | Nov 27 2007 21:08 (UTC) |
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| sunkissed that is B.S. where are those posts? Maybe they like ate 900-1000 cals for like one day and expected a miracle to happen. Weight is lost over weeks and months not hours. Anyone eating that little would get damn skinny over months and I know I have witnessed it happen over and over again. BUT IT ISN'T HEALTHY!! But to dispute that eating that few calories wouldn't cause weight loss and the key to weight loss is to eat more is stupid! Stupid! And Stupid. Just the other day some girl went from like 180 pounds to 115 eating a mere 850 cals a day. Know what her diet secret was? She never got on CC until she was DONE LOSING WEIGHT. | |||
| Weight Loss | People who give bad diet advice "Eat more to lose" *rant* | Nov 27 2007 21:02 (UTC) |
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| Oh and one more thing--Some of you seriously need to get realistic about how many calories activities burn. Don't over estimate how much you burn during an activity. Best weight loss results come from DIET DIET AND DIET . Working out helps but it is not what will make the biggest difference to the size of our body. | |||
| Weight Loss | People who give bad diet advice "Eat more to lose" *rant* | Nov 27 2007 20:59 (UTC) |
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| *sigh*
*Bangs head against a wall*
Who said anything like tell someone who is eating 900-1000 calories a day to eat even LESS?! WHAT??? See I'm not even talking about that and btw anyone eating 900-1000 cals a day would never get on CC and say "ummm guys why am I not losing weight?" a 900 calorie a day eater would probably be losing a lot of weight and everyone on here would surely tell such a person that they are starving and then some mod would probably post the rules about CC not being pro ana and yadda yadda yadda.
I'm talking about women who are eating a healthy 1500 calories a day and not moving their body and then getting on CC wondering why they are not losing. In a case like this it is probably due to them needing to cut an extra 100 calories out not add a 100. And then people go and tell that person "You're not eating enough" When someone is 1500 cals a day and not moving then how much would you think is enough exactly (remember we are not talking about what she needs to maintain, but what she needs to lose). Someone on here gave a woman in the situation I just described the advice to eat an extra 100-200 cals a day. Have you ever heard of anything more moronic?! Don't even think of supporting the notion that she'd need like 1600-1700 to lose weight --yeah right! (Unless of course she is quite obese, in which case she'd lose at 1700 cals a day but hell she'd lose at 1500 cals a day anyway). Now please don't come here and respond to say something I never said or say something totally ridiculous like "well when someone is eating 900 calories a day then they should increase their calories"...No kidding! BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT BUT THANKS FOR PAYING ATTENTION. |
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| Weight Loss | losing sooooo slow now...:( | Nov 27 2007 19:07 (UTC) |
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well don't be bummed out because at least you are eating enough calories, not even excercising and still losing!! Oh the 9 pounds your first week is not typical of weight loss for the following weeks. Everyone loses a lot the first week and it's mostly water/glycogen stores and little fat but because now you are losing fat the weekly weight loss is slower. If you want to lose more thna .20 of a pound a wek then you should start excercising by doing at least 30 minutes of cardio a day (come on 30 minutes flies by) and you should try eating around 1100-1200 and you will lose .5-1 pound a week. |
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| Weight Loss | What is up with the "Kimkin" diet? | Nov 19 2007 14:36 (UTC) |
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| Okay I just looked it up and just as I thought
KETOACIDOSIS DOES NOT APPLY TO NON DIABETICS.
You know, I understand that CC tries to push the healthy way of dieting and I'm all for that, and I understand this Kimkin diet does not sound healthy and I personally wouldn't do it, but that does not mean we should post things that are medically inaccurate or untrue--that is something I find VERY annoying about this site. Let's be healthy and safe but let's not out right lie about the fact that going on a no carb diet or fasting will force the body to turn on it's fat stores for fuel.
***Okay edit*** Stellajo thanks for the link but that is a very extreme case of starving, the woman was anorexic! Anorexia will cause multiple problems but going on a low carb or no carb diet for a while will not likely cause ketoacidosis. |
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| Weight Loss | Body fat scales | Nov 19 2007 14:24 (UTC) |
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| I don't have one but I read an article by a personal trainer saying those body fat scales are not accurate at all and a complete waste of money. The only way to have your body fat measured is by having a professional(Nutritionist or personal trainer) use the clamps or better yet, the most accurate is when they submerge you underwater. Sorry about your scale but if it's not too late just return it--they are expensive and not accurate. | |||
| Weight Loss | What is up with the "Kimkin" diet? | Nov 19 2007 14:17 (UTC) |
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| Stellajo--I'm curious as to where you got your source claiming that Ketoacidosis "can also occur with with people undergoing hunger strikes, fasting over 3 days, or people starving to death as the body is forced to break down fat for sustenance due to their lack of outside nutrition."
Seriously I'm very curious to know because this is the first I hear of it occuring in non-diabetics. If that is true, and we experienced a famine, we'd basically be dead within a week without food, yet I know that we can survive for up to 35-40 days without food so long as we are drinking water. What about people who are into yoga and alternative medicine? They actually fast for up to 2 weeks for detoxification, transformation and mental/physical regrouping...why do they not go into acidosis?
As far as I know Ketoacidosis is a condition that impacts diabetics only so if you have source saying that it can occur with fasting please post it. |
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| Weight Loss | What is up with the "Kimkin" diet? | Nov 15 2007 23:25 (UTC) |
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| brandy_m_gray you said it looks like something that can turn into ketoacidosis ?!?! WHAT?
Based on what I know ketosis and ketoacidosis are two different things!!!
Ketosis is a very safe state in which the body uses fat for fuel instead of carbs for fuel--this is a normal state and actually we experience it pretty often, sometimes several times a day because the body is not always using carbs as it's primary fuel source.
KetoACIDOSIS is a condition that applies to diabetics ONLY and it can be life threatening for them. I'm tired of people screwing it up and talking about ketosis as though it is ketoacidosis etc--TWO different conditions and unless you are diabetic then don't even worry about ketoacidosis. |
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| Weight Loss | Has Anyone Tried the" Idiot Proof Diet?" | Nov 15 2007 17:33 (UTC) |
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| Just wanted to respond to Kajikit's comment that "All food gets broken down into the same basic building blocks when you digest it - your body doesn't say 'this is a carrot, this is good, that's a piece of chocolate cake, oh bad better save up extra fat from that.'"
NO, that's wrong. Yes the body breaks down all food be it "good" for us or "bad" for us.BUT it does not break down all food into the same building blocks as you said! Carbs are for energy and protein is broken down and used to build and repair muscle. I don't buy into " a calorie is a calorie". If you want to lose weight you can't think a "calorie is a calorie" you should be more aware that where those calories come from have a direct impact on not only how your body looks but also on how you feel. The foods(calories) you eat will play a major role in protein build up and hormonal regulation so if a calorie is just a calorie why do you think it is that people should avoid processed foods and carbs if they want to lose weight? It's so they can avoid a insulin (fat storing) response. Why do you think it is that people who are serious about looking in great shape eat protein rich foods and back off the carbs? It's because protein is important in muscle maintainance and building and carbs make you hold on to a lot of water and unused carbs easily become fat stores. But hey if you want to think you'll get great results eating cake (so long as it's in your caloric budget) because a calorie is going to be broken down the same way for cake as it is for tuna then by all means go for it. Kiwiviv the "Idiot proof diet" (if done right) will induce a mild ketosis and cause fat loss. |
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| Weight Loss | Ok, I admit it, I need help!!! | Nov 15 2007 17:08 (UTC) |
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how the flip did you manage to gain weight on 1200 cals a day when you weight 190 pounds? 1200 is well below what you need to even maintain 190 pounds!!
BUT unfortunately it is possible to gain even if you are not taking in nearly enough cals to support your body weight.
If you skip meals or fast for part of the day then go eat carbs--weight gain will occur because weight gain is not just caused by the amount of calories eaten but by where the cals come from. That's right---the cals you do consume should be high quality cals. Skipping meals causes insulin to be released multiple times a day and eating carbs or processed foods causes the same response so it is possible to gain even when cals are low because you have turned your body into a very effective fat storaging machine. I know you didn't say you skip meals but on 900 cals a day I assumed you did. You should eat 4 small meals a day of about 350 cals each. Each meal MUST be high in protein and low in carbs. Just forget about eating anything processed, contains sugar or flour. When I say low carbs I mean make sure the carbs you do eat come from non starchy vegetables. You should start working out and you MUST include weight resistence if you ever want to lose weight. Building muscle burns fat and that's what's going to change your metabolism from a fat storing machine into a fat burning machine. So eat 1200-1400 cals a day spread to about 4 meals of 300-350 each, make sure those meals consist of high protein foods, and don't let more than 3.5 hours pass between the meals. Avoid eating after 7:00p.m or 8:00p.m and workout by doing 30 minutes of cardio 3 times a week and 30 minutes of strength 3 times a week. Better yet try a video called "Get Ripped 1000" with Jari Love and just do that 3 times a week --it's cardio and strength high interval training--it will change your metabolism! Best of luck |
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| Weight Loss | why isn weight goin down?? | Oct 24 2007 02:14 (UTC) |
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| fidget of course you should have a weight loss because according to what you're saying you are in a large caloric deficit..so why is there no weight loss?
1. How long have you been dieting and excercising? Give it at least 2 weeks before expecting the scale to change.
2. Are you sure you are CALCULATING everything correctly? Make sure you are taking in no more than 1200 cals a day and you should lose weight at a rate of .5-1 pound a week depending on your starting weight. Naturally the less you have to lose the less weight will be coming off on a weekly basis even with a caloric deficit.
3. If you are totally everything correctly and you have been in fact eating 1200 cals a day or less then try a high protein/low carb diet--you might be resistent to weight loss until you back off the carbs.
There is only one way to lose weight and that is by making sure calories in are less than calories out so before you go adding more cals just make sure you are already totaling everything correctly, you are not exaggerating anything, try backing off the carbs and increase your lean protein, and lastly BE PATIENT.
Cheers |
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| Weight Loss | Low Calorie Breakfast | Sep 21 2007 06:33 (UTC) |
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| Weetabix--2 biscuits are only 120 cals. with skim milk and a packet of splenda a serving is 160 cals. I just love Weetabix for breakfast, but you can eat it as a snack too!! Also, what about a serving of fat free yogurt with a bit of sliced fruit or blueberries? That's another I have for breakfast but I also use it as a snack too --it's about 110 cals for an 8 oz cup of fat free yogurt and then the berry topping and a bit of splenda it will be a total of 150. | |||
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