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Weight Loss New to this, rate my diet / workout plan Mar 20 2009
15:49 (UTC)
5

Thanks for your help, I'll try out your suggestions and hope for the best.  :)

Weight Loss New to this, rate my diet / workout plan Mar 20 2009
14:56 (UTC)
7

Thats very odd, mine is telling me 2600.  Male, 5'7, 225 lbs, sedentary.  I used to do calorie counting daily, but it became to be such a chore I put it off.  (I know, my fault) Since I eat roughly the same things mon-fri, I did a log entry of what I typically eat to see if I was eating enough or too much, and thats where my 1500-1700 figure came from in my earlier post.

You're right about the weekends though, I tend to eat out or have pizza delivered because I hate cooking.  I'll have to think about how to eat better that doesn't involve a lot of cooking.

Weight Loss New to this, rate my diet / workout plan Mar 20 2009
14:50 (UTC)
9
Original Post by fate-rock:

try measuring yourself instead of just weighing in.  you may be losing inches and/or gaining muscle and it might not be reflected on the scales just yet.  i would also spend a little more time with the weights than 15 minutes... and work out your abs/core everyday that you exercise.  the more muscle you build, the more calories you burn.  i wouldn't be drinking the protein shakes unless you are doing some more weight lifting... there are a lot of calories in those and it doesn't sound like you are doing a work-out that really calls for one afterwards.

 Thanks, I'll try that, though after 15 minutes my arms or legs are sore to where I can't do anymore and afraid of hurting myself.  My reps are only 70-80-90 lbs 10 times each right now on the machines so perhaps I'll gain more stamina as time goes on.

Weight Loss New to this, rate my diet / workout plan Mar 20 2009
14:46 (UTC)
10

I would estimate roughly 1600-1800 calories a day, the calculator says I burn 2500 or so (doesn't include workouts).  I know anything past a 1000 calorie deficit is pretty unsafe, but I feel full now that I've started eating every few hours.  I am eating a lot of protein, (chicken, shakes, etc) so I feel full quite often. 

Weight Loss Diet & Fitness, need help bringing all of this information together. Mar 06 2009
15:52 (UTC)

Thats what I figured, I didn't see the efficiency in weight lifting 3 days a week and only doing one body part a day.   I don't think I'd ever get anywhere.

Weight Loss Diet & Fitness, need help bringing all of this information together. Mar 06 2009
15:28 (UTC)
2

Thanks, I appreciate that.  Thats very impressive going from 210 to 135.  I'll definately have to take some notes from that schedule and maybe do some food shopping.  :)  I hear alot of "eat more protein" so I think that's what I'm gonna try and go for, maybe buy some whey powder w/ protein and mix it in with skim milk and see how that goes.

A friend of mine noticed I jumped from leg machines to arm machines then chest machines, he said I should really do only one group per day.  Is there a reason for that?  I thought doing them all would benefit everything as opposed to just one group.

Weight Loss Diet & Fitness, need help bringing all of this information together. Mar 05 2009
19:52 (UTC)
4

Thanks for all the advice.  I'll step up weights a bit so that I'm doing cardio and weights 50/50 and eat a bit more, hopefully a combination of the two will allow me to see results over time.   I have about 50-60 lbs to lose, being 5'7 and 225, I should be around the 160 range, I'm just not excited about such a long haul.

Weight Loss Diet & Fitness, need help bringing all of this information together. Mar 05 2009
15:55 (UTC)
7

I did some research on the whole biggest loser thing and this is a quote from MSNBC.  What makes me scratch my head tho, if they are consuming 1500 calories a day but weight train for an hour and cardio for 2 hours every day helping them burn 1200-1500 calories, won't they go into starvation mode?  If the below is accurate, how are these people losing all this weight when it looks like they're starving themselves?

Sorry to get off track, I'm just trying to understand this all so I can follow the right steps to losing weight quickly and safely.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9880085/

"Dansinger says that "50 to 60 percent of [contestants’] weight-loss success comes from dietary change." They're used to consuming around 3000 calories a day, but on the show consume about 1500 calories a day.  As he says, "few people are really in a position to cut their calories by 1500 a day, but that's what these people are able to do." He says there's "nothing controversial" about the diet, nor are the contestants given pills or other shortcuts.

The other 40 to 50 percent of weight loss comes from the three hours of exercise the contestants do every day: an hour of strength training and two hours of cardio. That helps them burn an additional 1200 to 1500 calories, Dansinger says. "It's hard to do by yourself, but on the show it's easy to do," he said. "When people allow themselves to be put in that kind of environment ... when you pull out all the barriers to weight loss, that's when the weight loss can come very quickly."

Weight Loss Diet & Fitness, need help bringing all of this information together. Mar 05 2009
14:23 (UTC)
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Thanks for the advice both of you.  I'll give eating more a shot.  Yesterday I replaced the salad for a grilled chicken sandwhich on whole wheat for protien, I honestly thought eating salad was healthier and would help me lose weight but it doesn't seem to be the food of choice if I'm going to work out 5 days a week.  I honestly thought doing a LOT of cardio would slim me down quickly since I'm burning alot of calories, but it sounds as if that isn't the case. 

So may I ask then, is it worth it to do cardio at all if the foods you eat are bringing you to a 500-1000 calorie deficit a day?  Or do people just do cardio for health reasons and to fix a day where they've overeaten?

How is it then these people on The biggest loser lose 5-10 lbs a week?  What's the secret?

Weight Loss Diet & Fitness, need help bringing all of this information together. Mar 05 2009
12:40 (UTC)
12

Perhaps the lack of response is due to me writing a book, let me rephrase.

1) If a body is in starvation mode, and I burn 375 calories on the eliptical, is it fat that is burning or something else?

2) Cardio, lets say I ate 1500 calories and I burned 300 on the eliptical bringing my final number to 1200, which is very minimum and near starvation mode, should I not then do cardio but concentrate on weights?  What would be the point of me eating more, just to have the cardio bring me to where I need to be?  What else does Cardio with weight besides strengthen the heart and lungs and help create more burned calories?

Weight Loss Weight Loss and SSRIs Dec 03 2008
20:31 (UTC)

I know what you mean.  Before I took SSRIs I was on prednisone for a low platelet count issue, and the side effects were awful, so I was hesitant to do SSRIs.  Choosing the lesser of the two evils, being depressed all the time and what not versus whatever physical harm comes from taking those pills.

Motivation is another big problem, now that I'm a bit zoned out on Lexapro, I have no energy (desire yes, energy no) to workout.  Wake up at 6 for work, home at 5, and by then I'm so tired from work I don't feel like doing anything except sitting.

 

Weight Loss Weight Loss and SSRIs Dec 03 2008
02:50 (UTC)
3

Did the EMDR treatment help with any of the anxiety?  Its supposed to "unlock" buried fears and such that cause anxiety in the first place, repressed memories and such. 

Weight Loss Weight Loss and SSRIs Dec 03 2008
02:42 (UTC)
5

Thats another dilemma I have.  If I go off the meds, there's a very good chance I'll revert back to my high anxiety state which will affect my job and everything else.  I prefer to be med free personally, I never liked taking pills, I always believed in mind over matter to solve those problems but I finally realized that it's a condition, not something I can fix on my own.  On pills, I'm still anxious, but not as anti-social or paranoid.

I read something about EMDR, a treatment for those with anxiety disorders.  It's supposed to be like a counseling session that involved eye movement but its not hypnosis.  My goal is to get off these pills so I can get my body to revert back to its normal state, choosing between mental and physical health is a pain.  :)

Thanks for all the input, it's much appreciated.

Weight Loss Weight Loss and SSRIs Dec 01 2008
19:32 (UTC)
8

Thanks Happy.   Before I worked out 3 times a week for about an hour each, doing mostly eliptical and then some weights.  It sounds like I have to step that up to an every day thing. 

Weight Loss Weight Loss and SSRIs Dec 01 2008
18:58 (UTC)
11

V- Thanks for the input, I'll try stepping up the workouts and see if I notice any difference.  When I had my personal trainer help about a year ago, he was dumbstruck at how I wasn't losing weight.

Cait, not to worry, it's not rambling.  :)  Every bit helps.

That is ridiculous though that some medication is that expensive.   I live in Pittsburgh and while I consider to have a job that pays fairly well, I would not be able to afford that either. 

My doc just told me a few minutes ago on the phone that I need to see a specialist now, I've moved beyond his expertise.  And go figure, specialists don't have a nice easy copay but instead are under the deductable rule of my medical insurance so I have to drop 500 before any of it is covered...what a messed up society...

If any of you want to email me to talk about your experiences feel free to, I check that moreso than this forum.  (vmp0514@msn.com)

Weight Loss Weight Loss and SSRIs Dec 01 2008
18:14 (UTC)
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Thank you for all your responses, it's all rather frustrating.  Medication has different effects on everyone due to their body chemistry, so most of the time doctor's rely on trial and error. 

Spiro, sorry to hear about the bi-polar, I know someone like that and I imagine it's not easy for you.  I never thought about Xanax, I'll have to do some research and ask my doc about it.

Haley/Vicki, I'm glad to hear you're both managing fine.  I know wellbutrin targets different inhibitors in the brain than the others, the side effects seemed to be opposite though of the others.  Where Paxil, Zoloft, and Lexapro calmed you down, Wellbutrin I read sped some people up, which is the LAST thing I need...LOL. 

It would be nice if one day medicine developed a way to cure people without giving them 15 other possible side effects.  Sure I can cure a headache, but not without stomach pains, loss of vision, palpatations, loss of hair, etc etc etc.

 

Weight Loss Weight Loss and SSRIs Dec 01 2008
16:53 (UTC)
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Thanks for your quick response, and sorry to hear you are having problems too. 

My doctor has changed my meds about 3-4 times, first it was Paxil, then wellbutrin, then Buspar, now Lexapro.  I am also taking ativan as needed, which is for my panic attacks.  Before I was on them, my mood swings were terrible.  I was very short fused and worried constantly about stupid things.  I'm afraid to go off the meds for fear of returning to that state, but all of my attempts to lose the weight I've gained has failed.

 

 

Fitness Muscle / Fat Question Jul 16 2007
13:32 (UTC)
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Another newbie question, why are free weights recommended over the machines?  I have been doing the machines since day 1 and I do notice I am getting stronger.  Are free weights better in some way?

By the way, I do appreciate everyone's help.  It's nice to know I'm not alone, it can get frustrating at times when I don't see results right away, I'm VERY impatient.  LOL.
Fitness Muscle / Fat Question Jul 13 2007
15:53 (UTC)
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Thanks, I'll try that! 
Fitness Muscle / Fat Question Jul 13 2007
14:13 (UTC)
35
Thank you all for your advice.  I know there are many different viewpoints on the subject and being on a forum like this helps everyone share what worked for them, even if they are different. 

I read that article and learned more about fitness, which helped.

I have about 30 mins every morning at the gym in my work building before I start work, so I alternate 5 days a week, weight, cardio, weight, cardio, weight.  I also have changed my diet, elimanted ALL drinks except water, green tea, and milk.  I eat grilled chicken instead of hamburgers for lunch at work on whole wheat.  I guess the hardest part is being patient. 

Since I only have 30 minutes a day I'll keep up the routine I'm doing.  I want to lose weight AND build muscle at the same time.  Priority though is weight loss.   That 205 lbs obese BMI is what worries me, I'm trying to get this down to 145-165 or so. 
Fitness Muscle / Fat Question Jul 13 2007
13:33 (UTC)
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Thank you again, I have to say you guys are great!

I'll stick to my routine then, mon-wed-fri  30 mins of high intensity weights (right now most machines I can do 100 lbs arms and legs)and tue-thur 30 mins of high intensity cardio on the eliptical (Heart rate is 150-165 at 8-9 resistance on eliptical)

Should I switch this up so that 3 days a week its cardio and 2 days weights?  After 3 months I'm still at 205 lbs, though I have noticed my arms and legs are tougher than before.  This stomach is the stubborn part.  Should I increase the time I workout from 30 mins to 1 hr, maybe I'm not doing enough daily to see faster results?
Fitness Muscle / Fat Question Jul 13 2007
13:21 (UTC)
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Thanks for the answers, I appreciate the help.

My main goal is to get from 205 lbs to something like 160 lbs or so.  CC recommends 145 lbs.  Is it worth doing only cardio for a while to drop the weight, then once I'm at 145-160 lbs, start building the muscle and eliminate cardio?  Weight training from what I understand burns fat too, just not as much as cardio.

How I want to look in the end is skinnier (60 lbs lighter) but toned / muscular.  I'd be willing to lose this muscle I have then rebuild it once I'm at the right weight...though some consider this the "sloth" method.

I'm really not sure how to proceed.
Motivation boyfriends and weight gain Jul 06 2007
13:55 (UTC)
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As a guy, I can say relationships do affect diets.  If you go thru trouble spots (all couples do) sometimes your emotions will wreak havoc with your self confidence, and thus sometimes you feel like giving up your normal eating / workout routine.  

There was a girl I dated that we always fought and hurt my self confidence, and I gained like crazy.  Ever since we broke up and I started regaining self confidence I started to feel good about working out again. 

Emotion can be your best friend or worst enemy, and with relationships, they are extreme either way, almost nothing in between sometimes.
Fitness Getting a Flat Stomach Jul 06 2007
12:30 (UTC)
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Just so you know, I'm a guy and I have the same problem.  I've been working out for a few months now, doing both weight lifting and cardio and I see results on some parts of me all but the stomach.  It is extremely frustrating, and I understand how you feel.  I'm a small guy, 26 yrs old and only 5'7, so I wasn't built for a lot of heavy contact stuff or heavy workouts.  I'm going to try to increase my cardio to see if that burns off the fat at all, the eliptical is great because I have flat feet.

Don't worry, keep up the good work, it'll take time.  (easier said then done, I know)  It helps to remember that no matter what you will look fine just the way you are, and toning and losing weight is just a bonus.
Fitness Advice Jul 03 2007
18:57 (UTC)
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Thanks for the info, I'll give the cutting back a shot...mint chocolate chip is so hard to resist LOL.
Fitness Advice Jul 03 2007
16:46 (UTC)
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I forgot to ask, how do you calculate body fat %?  I'm trying to keep track that way, since the scale isnt going to tell me anything at this point.
The Lounge What State are you in? Jun 26 2007
13:28 (UTC)
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Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Weight Loss prednisone and weight gain as side effect? Jun 26 2007
13:16 (UTC)
4
I was on prednizone, it increases your apetite so you tend to eat more, thus gaining weight.  I got off that pill as soon as I could, it has a lot of nasty side effects. 
The Lounge am I that fat that I cant find a boyfriend? Jun 18 2007
18:18 (UTC)
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As a guy, i don't judge solely by how you look.  What's important to me is personality and how mature she is.  What good is dating someone that looks drop dead gorgeous if you're constantly fighting because she can't hold a job and pay her end of the bills? 

To me, I date women who are intelligent and have goals set for themselves.  Ones that will respect me for who I am and respect others.  Someone who would stay loyal.  Looks are a bonus, but not required. 

The majority of guys who go after the "hot" ones, are just trying to score or prove to someone or themselves they can have them.  The less mature guy will go after the pretty ones because they'd look good with them in public and no one would make fun of them for dating someone less pretty.

As an adult, I'm past this phase.  I'm not perfect either, but I try hard to make it in life, and regardless of how you look, if you try too, then I'm going to notice you.
The Lounge HELP!!! Do nice guys always end up last? Jun 08 2007
19:08 (UTC)
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I'm a guy like that, pretty nice, respectful to others, the whole nine yards.  If you're like me, being social and flirting with women are difficult for you because you're not sure of yourself or afraid to offend the other person by coming on too strong. 

You will meet women who want that confident guy, you will meet women who want someone intelligent, you will meet women who are just as shy as you.  My point is, be yourself.  If you have to change who you are for a girl to notice you, then the relationship won't work anyway. (After a while, you revert back to who you really are) 

Granted, its HARDER for us quiet guys to get dates more often than social butterflys that have a knack with asking women out, but the important thing is to never forget your strengths.  Okay, so you're not social, so what?  Myself, I know what I want, I know what i've got, and I'm driven to succeed.  If you maintain that attitude, the right woman will come to like you for you.  It may take time, but it will happen.  Patience is a virtue.
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