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| Health & Support | The Master Cleanse/Lemonade Diet | May 31 2007 17:12 (UTC) |
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| Please post an addy and I will send you a pkg with the next round of Mucoid Plaque with some of the little squirmies in there and the impacted matter that formed to my colon (problem is I have talked to people with similar atttitudes about other subjects before and no amount of evidence is enough... how many people need to post benefits before it might just be possible in your opinion-- would a cleanse have helped John Wayne before it got to the point where he had cancer)... you would be surprised how many people do have worms and just do not realize it--- people in Western societies do have worms, it is not strictly a "3rd world" phenomenon. The idea may sound so icky that no one likes it but just saying it isn't so doesn't change anything.
I have talked to more than one person who has removed worms. One of them I know personally, in the U.S., and have seen their worms in addition to mine so you may not like the idea that it works and that is fine but please do some research before posting--- and no, running to sites that say it doesn't work then regurgitating that here does not constitute research... true research means taking in all the information about the subject then coming to a conclusion, not merely thinking it sounds bad and finding others who agree then saying it must be so. One problem the cleanse addresses is most people do not drink anywhere near enough water but on this cleanse they will drink plenty if they follow the instructions... hydrating the colon without adding more solids to the mix will help things flow through, that just makes sense... if you are trying to clean your kitchen sink pipes out would you keep piling junk in there while doing the cleanup or would no one be allowed to put anything in while you were doing the work? Also, how can posting my personal experiences be careless? The fact you can find Doctors who will say it is a bad idea is immaterial... you will be able to find that sort of debate on many topics where experts can be pulled into the picture, there are people for and against but again all I suggest is actually doing some research yourself and reading the book would be a good place to start... if you are not willing to at least do a bit of research into the cleanse itself rather than just reading info from those who support your view and posting that here, it is a bit irresponsible because you could steer someone away from something that might have helped them... for example, people with severe sensitivity to different body care products such as perfumes have reported complete removal of symptoms after a cleanse... how would you explain that if cleanses are ridiculous hogwash? Also, I wasn't hiding behind the veil of Western medicine doesn't know everything but rather people have a lot of environmental health problems they would like relief from and the typical consultation usually ends in the patient receiving a prescription and more prescriptions are not the solution... if it were that simple people would get healthier from taking the meds but for the most part all they are doing is treating symptoms--- for example, I have a rash so I must need some cream or lotion... if the rash came from an external irritant maybe but not if it was caused by internal conditions yet if I go to the Dr. I will likely be given medicated cream. That is what I was talking about and that is a fact not me doing any kind of sidestep. ...so the issue is many of those symptoms have causes that can be treated and by resolving that issue the symptoms will go away for good rather than needing to constantly apply a cream or take some med. For the longest time Doctors in the U.S. laughed about Chiropractic care now most consider it an acceptable form of treatment. Old thinking dies hard with a lot of people regardless of how much real life info there is to back it up. Reminds me of the story of Elmo the monkey... they tried to get monkeys to like coconuts so instead of bananas they put coconuts where they were easily seen. Eventually a monkey they named Elmo went to the coconuts. Initially he was harrassed by the other monkeys then finally a few more decided to join Elmo and they too were harrassed then finally when a large enough group of monkeys joined Elmo the harrassment stopped and coconuts were then acceptable. I actually think it would be interesting for someone in the medical community to take a group of people, those who are really desperate for relief from some of the problems cleanses have been reported to take care of, and do a trial but the real question is why has that not happened... if it is so dangerous and so many are trying it why don't they do a trial, if for no other reason than to "set people straight" for their own good. People don't like to hear it but few people will go to school that many years then give themselves a huge pay cut by telling their allergy (and possibly other) patients they should try a cleanse because many have received benefits from it... it does not pay to send people away, it pays to treat and treat and treat. I doubt seriously you will see such a trial but you have that information available online from 1000's of people yet you refuse to believe it... if there was a trial, since you are so against this, if the results turned out to support cleanses would you then at least start to research on your own or would you suspect the trial... I think the latter based on what I have read from you on this forum. You can either assume that 1000's of people on the net who say they have tried cleanses, many actually post a daily diary, are lying or that maybe the Doctors you have read from are misinformed because they have not done a trial... sometimes medical ideas about different topics are wrong and need to change. Also the people posting about these cleanses are not the Olympic athlete or someone in similar shape... people who have severe problems, such as severe reactions to body care products or food allergies, know when they feel better... all of the sudden they can be around people who use body care products and not feel incredibly sick or their food allergies are completely gone... people have reported no more arthritic pain after cleansing so again we are not talking about someone who already felt great and now they think maybe they feel better because others say they do too. I can understand your skepticism. I was on a site for a cleanse product the other night and it sounded like an infomercial but I could see through it because I have tried one of the products they were comparing theirs to so I know their info was not 100% accurate but I have no financial interest in getting people to buy sea salt, lemons/limes, cayenne pepper or grade b syrup because I am not getting a click through... cleanses have benefited me and I am sharing that info to hopefully help others. That is the extent of my interest... I was benefited so I am trying to do the same. |
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| Health & Support | The Master Cleanse/Lemonade Diet | May 31 2007 09:27 (UTC) |
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| Someone was asking some questions, though I am not sure they were really looking for answers, but based on my research this is how it works:
This is a type of fast. Instead of an outright water fast though the lemons/limes, grade b maple syrup (not normal table syrup), and the salt (unprocessed sea salt, not ordinary table salt) nourish the body of the cleanser so it is not a starvation diet... the salt water flush is also a known cleanse that has been used for a long time in the East... I do not subscribe to the Yogi religious beliefs but if the flush works, it works. I have done another cleanse, not this one yet but have read a lot about it to decide whether or not to try it, and I can see how people have some of the questions they do without having done any reasearch... it is a shame people will resort to slamming and name calling instead of doing some research but that is what often happens on these forums :( The toxins released: John Wayne had pounds of waste in his system when he was autopsied. That backed up, caked on, and not going anywhere gunk would have been very toxic to his system. In fact, waste that is impacted so as not to be evacuated can be absorbed back into the system (in addition to causing other problems... I know what it feels like to not floss for several days and my gums start to hurt (so I floss) so imagine having stuff stuck to your colon for a loooong time because it is impacted and the irritation that could cause over time). Mucoid Plaque can also form. The other backed up waste, and the Mucoid Plaque, are great places for parasites and other toxins to take up residence and not get evacuated from the system so there is more opportunity for the person to basically be poisoned by their own waste (toxins). I imagine we don't need to go into the benefits of flushing parasites, such as worms, out of our system. One reason the cleanse works is because the body is not overwhelmed with digesting and processing all the food and drink normally thrown at it. Remember the last time you had a huge meal and in a short time had to take a nap (this can also happen from a heavy carb/sugar meal). That is your body switching gears to focus on the overabundance of food, and likely a bad combination of food, to digest it... the cleanse allows the body to not be so wrapped up in fighting alligators so to speak that it can remember the task at hand is to drain the swamp, and can actually put forth energy for accomplishing that task. I have evacuated Mucoid Plaque during another cleanse and have also had long worms, that had obviously taken up residence for a while, removed while cleansing so it is a great idea... after the Mucoid Plaque came out I had more energy... having who knows how many worms not sucking up my nutrients and likely contributing their own waste, as well as getting out a lot of material that was formed so it looked like it had been in my system a long time, provided great benefits to me. I do not need scientists to run tests for who knows how long to know I benefited... feeling better overall and having more energy are good indicators to me the other cleanse, though not as drastic as this one, provided me with great benefits. I am not going to slam Western medicine but they are not paid to cure but rather to treat, they do get paid for every prescription they write btw, and in the process people have gotten used to pushing their health off on their Dr. with the "what can you give me for this problem" mentality... how many commercials do we see now for how many different medications to improve this or regulate that... the problem is do you get to a point where you no longer need the medication, other than dying? Many people have received permanent benefits from cleansing (such as no more arthritis or severe allergies) because it does remove toxins from the body, unless you are that special case who has not eaten the typical Western diet, you have not abused drugs alcohol or tobacco, you exercise regularly, you eat all organic produce, you drink filtered or clean spring water, and any meat you eat is completely free of hormones and pesticides by being fed an organic diet, you live in the country away from the pollution and all the man-made chemical sludge in many of the products people use daily, and that last one is getting worse as body care products now often contain petroleum by products as do detergents. Unless we eat all organic, we are inundated with pesticides in our food. That waste has to go somewhere and what organs in the body process waste then finally eliminate it from the body. Also, many people do not think about how much they eat compared to how much comes out the other end. If we eat 3 meals a day plus snacks and go to the bathroom once a day or less, where is the extra material--- inside, backed up. It is a fact that countries normally known for health and longevity quickly experience Western health issues the moment the typical American diet hits their area... fast food draws people and if you think about it, how many aisles in the average grocery store really contain edible food? Not many... the organic produce section and some of the frozen and very little in the baked goods... the rest is processed and/or laden with sugar and meat and dairy are very hard on our systems, in addition to the fact we have not been discouraged from eating very complex meals, including meat, which then practically ensures the meat or some of the other food items will not digest properly. Also, I have read where people on this cleanse are sometimes still evacuating solid material after 8 days and what comes out is formed so it is not muscle that has been canibalized for protein. After getting off the cleanse the cleanser is encouraged to ease back into eating regular food but hopefully not returning to their old diet: Starbucks coffee + muffin, fast food for lunch, lots of processed food with sugar for snacks or even sometimes for a meal, complex meals that do not digest well, etc... The need for repopulating the persons system with flora is also noted so people are aware the flush is a full flush and the good bacteria will need to be replaced, but what happens to those good bacteria with the typical Western diet and all the pollutants and chemicals we take in, including antibiotics (which btw after you are prescribed antibiotics does your Dr. tell you to replenish your flora... they should). After the research I have done, I plan to try it for 10 days... I am not advocating it for anyone else but I do suggest anyone interested really research it and read the book... it is cheap online and on some sites you can read the entire book as a pdf... every site I found always says the same thing--- read the entire book before you try the cleanse. |
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