Posts by melkor

Original Post by rgurleyjr1:

There's a crazy statement going around that 1lb of muscle burns 40-60 calories a day. Don't fall for that foolishness, muscle is more metabolically active than fat but now some researchers are putting the number at 6-10 cal's. You know how many muscular men I've known that were pretty overweight? If one of then had say 10 lbs of muscle and IF  muscle burned 50 cals for every pound, they could lift weights to retain mass, eat at maintenance, and lose a pound a week. I don't think so, I have done both weight lifting and cardio at two different times in my life. Hand's down, intense cardio is the way to go for fat loss. I'm a little surprised at all of the hype of weight lifting for weight loss? At least for me it didn't work as good as running.

 Actually, untrained muscle burns about 5.8kcal/d while trained muscle burns about 7.2kcal/d. The estimates for 50-60kcal/d were based on a misattribution of the effect of going from untrained to trained status on your musclature; if an untrained person with 60lbs of muscle goes from untrained to trained and adds about 2lbs of muscle in the process his or her calorie burn will increase by roughly 105kcal. If you attribute that increase to the 2lbs of muscle gained the math tells you that each lb of muscle burns 55kcal/d, a value that should have made people suspicious on account of how the 60lbs of muscle you started with should then have burned about 3300kcal/d.

 Happens when people don't think about whether their math makes sense in light of the values they started with.

 Well, some estimates are higher, but it's also worth keeping in mind that the "at rest" figures probably have very little predictive value for anyone more active than the average couch potato, since "at rest" isn't how you spend most of you time.

That you think intense cardio is the way to go for weight loss would be because you are overestimating the effects of exercise and underestimating the role diets play in your weight loss, and are thinking too much in terms of scale weight and not enough in terms of body composition. Weight loss is purely a function of calorie balance and it doesn't matter how you achieve the necessary calorie deficit. 

Fat Loss Depends on Energy Deficit Only, Independently of the Method for Weight Loss
Strasser et.al.Ann Nutr Metab 2007;51:428-432 (DOI: 10.1159/000111162)

  More intense cardio can achieve more of a calorie deficit, but the training adaptations to that include loss of muscle mass which is universally bad for a dieter and the best predictor of weight regain following a diet.  The only thing exercise selection influences is what sort of tissue you lose - and the only way to defend against loss of muscle mass in a calorie deficit and subsequent weight regain following the cessation of diet is to strength train.

 Besides, when you examine resistance training versus endurance training (Westcott, W., Fitness Management. Nov., 1991.) objectively under controlled conditions you'll see that even minimal strength training is far superior in terms of fat loss and body composition to endurance training - for beginners. The results will be different for experienced trainees who can spend multiple hours a day performing endurance training, but a beginner doesn't have the  endurance to perform exercises for the necessary duration. And if they did, it would still be a bad idea because a beginner will also have an extreme injury rate once they start running more than 3xweekly for more than 30min. at a time.

 Given the above limitations, beginner populations and all general populations without sports-specific training needs should start with a reasonable strength training program (whole body, 3xweekly) and only add endurance training as time permits.

Original Post by pavlovcat:

Melkor is too wicked.  He's a vampire.  We established that last night.

Bah, humbug - I don't like Twilight, and Abbey gluing sparkles to me doesn't make me into a Twilight vampire :-P

The celebrity "diets" and "workouts" you find in the fitness misinformation magazines like Shape/Self/Cosmo are admirable as works of fiction, but they bear no relation to the workouts they actually do.

 Take someone like Gisele Bundchen - her publicist talks about her yoga as if that was what she did for her workouts. But her real training is done with Joe Dowdell at Peak Performance Fitness and is mostly focused on free weights; yoga is something she does at home to destress.

 But Self will talk of her yoga regime and neglect to tell you about her PR in the Romanian deadlift when describing "The Gisele Workout", Shape will play up some sort of water-bottle triceps kickback exercise and neglect to inform you of her bench press total - and so on.

 The menus and calorie intakes are either pure fantasy or a function of prescription drug abuse - either way you can't go by what's publicized because it's either sheer fabrication, or it's something you need to have a "friendly doctor" over-prescribe medication to be able to do.

"Never trust something that can bleed for thee days straight and not die."

Yep, that was dinner.

Oh, and 14.

Original Post by pavlovcat:

Original Post by melkor:

Original Post by pavlovcat:

 I do have some hot firemen in my neighborhood.

*considers pawcuffing my cats to a tree as bait*

'Course, if you were stuck up a tree and needed help, your cats would have a different reaction.--

 Not true!  Lazybutt would sit at the bottom of the tree and squeak in distress.  He may even come up and visit me, although he wouldn't be able to get back down.

And Big Sexy would knock the tree over if it meant he'd get fed.

My cats love need use me!

Oh, sure, they'd do that - but they still wouldn't run for help now would they?

Original Post by pavlovcat:

My boyfriends disappear before they become my boyfriends.  They have magical powers like that.

Oh, right - Pav? Your cats want to tell you something. :-P

(13! Yay!)

Original Post by abbeyhunter:

Original Post by runesplendor:

Original Post by melkor:

Original Post by abbeyhunter:

*throws glitter at melkor*

Look!  He's a vampire!

 

Aaargh! Getitoffgetitoffgetitoff!

 Bahahahahahahaha!!

 I put glue on the glitter first, its not going anywhere for awhile. :)

Aaaargh!

I've figured out a happy ending to the Twilight crap.

"And then Buffy staked Edward, The End"

Original Post by abbeyhunter:

Original Post by melkor:

12! - whohoo ;)

 I missed it all, do it again. :)

*ducks*

*thwoks*

12! - whohoo ;)

Original Post by puh8suwrux:

Original Post by melkor:

Original Post by sharpshootinstar:

*stalks back into chat silently*

*grabs an ice pick*

*stalks back out*

does CDC know you're taking that ice pick?

 I think we have ample supply.

Yeah, but this one had little flowers painted on it and some pink hilights; so I think it was special to her.

Original Post by starlitocean:

Original Post by splitrail:

"Sautéed spicy Italian sausage, chicken breast, red onion and fresh mushrooms tossed with penne in a creamy tomato sauce."

I think I just came a little.

 dude, me too.

possibly because creamy tomato sauce is the most amazing thing in life ever.  it's almost better than matt damon.

.- oh, and 11.

Original Post by pavlovcat:

I grew up Christian Reformed and they had grape juice too.

Edited to add:  EVIL!

Grape juice when you were supposed to get wine is really evil, yes.

Hmm. Ever have this feeling?