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| The Lounge | *edit*. the bible.....ugh. | Dec 20 2007 14:12 (UTC) |
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Three words Zeitgeist: The Movie Google for it. Sure, it's sensationalist, agenda-filled, rumor mongering and conspiracy theory taken to an art form, but boy does it stir some visceral reactions in people. I think that everyone should watch it at least once. If you watch it and it really makes you angry, you've been warned. I believe that was the producers intent, personally. |
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| The Lounge | YAY It's Friday! Chat | Dec 20 2007 13:33 (UTC) |
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Except that it's Thursday.
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| The Lounge | News Flash: Jamie Lynn Spears Is Pregnant! | Dec 19 2007 23:58 (UTC) |
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Original Post by p0nda: A terrible person? Not necessarily. Guilty of a crime in many states? Probably.
And you know what? I reserve the right to point out the fact that getting pregnant probably wasn't the smartest thing to do right now. Playing the title role on a television program on a children's network with an image to uphold? Yeah... I'm betting there are morality clauses in her contract. If she --or her legal guardian-- agreed to them, then she has an obligation to uphold them. Especially because --as I pointed out-- she is to some extent responsible for the livelihood of others. E.g. the cast and crew of her show. If that show is canceled because she is pregnant, than her actions have impacted the lives of how many other people? Just because a consequence is unintended doesn't mean it's any less real. Is it a mistake? Sure. Do people get pregnant without intending to? Sure again. Let me introduce you to 2/3 of my children sometime. Do teenagers get pregnant all the time? Yep. Does it make them bad? Not necessarily. Here is a kid though who has basically been handed the moon on a stick in the form of a popular television show amongst children. She has abundant example in her immediate family about "What you probably shouldn't do if you want to maintain your career as a teen idol" and yet she falls right into the oldest trap out there. When, by virtue of the modern age, there is no reason --or at least, the odds against it are staggeringly high-- for her to get pregnant if she doesn't want to. Chances are good that she screwed up. Now she and potentially many other people are going to have to live with the consequences. So no, I'm not judging Jamie Lynn. I am, however, casting sideways glances at her parents who seem to --by what is known publicly-- have done a pretty crappy job of raising children. Who apparently have let their underage daughter move in with a boy who, depending on where they live, may be guilty of a felony for knocking up a 16 year old. Et cetera. The girl has accepted life as a public personality. She is going to be talked about. And again, my feelings of pity? empathy? I'm not quite sure yet... Goes to the people who may be affected, perhaps in a life altering way, but Jamie getting pregnant. That's something that they have NO control over and yet it is going to affect them. The same way I feel sorry for people whose houses get sucked up in tornadoes. I don't judge the tornado that leveled the block, but I damn sure will talk about it. Most of all, I feel sorry for the next generation from Spears to be born in the world, because the press has given us such a blow-by-blow slow motion watching of the train coming of the rails view of that family that "Spears" is going to enter the national lexicon as a monosyllabic euphemism for dysfunctional. Watch and see.
edit: Where I mention getting pregnant as 'she screwed up' and 'if she didn't want to' I do believe that birth control is the responsibility of BOTH parties involved. I'm not trying to imply that daddy doesn't have a role in the conception. |
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| The Lounge | News Flash: Jamie Lynn Spears Is Pregnant! | Dec 19 2007 22:46 (UTC) |
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You know who I feel sorry for? I mean...besides the poor kid who's going to be asking auntie Brittney for a carton of Marlboro's and a 12 pack of Mt. Dew for Christmas by about age 10 I feel sorry for all the other kids on the show who haven't yet participated in pro-creation who will be fired when the show is canceled. Ditto for the crew who works on this show that may have families of their own to support. They're all going to be looking for a new gig soon too aren't they? Because Jamie Lynn and her three years older beau refused to practice safe sex. Apparently.
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| The Lounge | Fire !!! | Dec 19 2007 21:54 (UTC) |
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Original Post by missreporter: I do. I was pleasantly surprised to find out that it wasn't the Canadians this time.
That's a little 'War of 1812' humor. I'm a nerd, ok? |
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| Pregnancy & Parenting | How Do I Motivate My Child? *Warning LONG Post* | Dec 19 2007 16:41 (UTC) |
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I'm not sure that I have encouraging news, but I'll tell you a little about myself: When I was 12, Duke University had a program where they gave the SAT tests to children who had done exceptionally well on the standardized tests of the day, which were the California Achievement Tests. I took the SATs, and scored in the 99th percentile, as a 12 year old. By that time, my grades were already total crap. My parents tried all the same things you are trying. They grounded me, they took things away, they rewarded me when I did well, they wanted to check my homework. It didn't matter. I was bored to freaking death in school, and I simply wasn't going to do it. It didn't matter what my parents did. I didn't want to, I wasn't going to. Period. End of story. From about fifth grade on... my grades were terrible. In fact, I ended up graduating high school only because a very kind Algebra II teacher knew that if she didn't give me a passing grade at the end of my senior year, I wasn't going to get a diploma, and she knew I'd never come back to finish. So there I was, the only Senior in a class full of sophomores whose quarterly grades were F, F, F, and F, but whose final grade was a D. (That was the third year I had taken the class too) Note to self: I really ought to look her up sometime and say thank you. I was accepted to college based on my test scores, not on my grades. But I dropped out after a semester and joined the Army. It took until I was 26 years old before I realized the value of an education. That simply knowing the material wasn't enough, I had to actually demonstrate it once in awhile too. When I went back to school, I had a perfect 4.0 GPA. So though I would love to give you a silver bullet to 'fix' your son. I don't know of one. My mother has asked me what she could have done to change my study habits and I honestly don't know that there was anything that she could have done. Besides, I think she tried everything. I was bored stupid at school, smarter than most of my teachers, and didn't feel like I should have to inconvenience myself with homework. The only thing that fixed that was maturity. Though I'm certainly not recommending you throw up your hands and give up, I just thought I'd let you know that I was the same way, and I'm not in jail, make good money, and am actually wearing a tie, as I type this. So there is hope. |
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| The Lounge | anyone moved really far from family/friends? | Dec 19 2007 03:30 (UTC) |
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Regularly, but they always seem to find me. |
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| The Lounge | Professional healthcare workers? | Dec 19 2007 00:51 (UTC) |
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I'm not a doctor, but I play one...
Wha? What do you mean I didn't finish the quote? I wasn't quoting anyone... |
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| The Lounge | I Want To Work As An Explosive Ordnance Disposal Apprentice In The Air Force | Dec 19 2007 00:28 (UTC) |
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Original Post by jtrbug101: Rock of the Marne, Brother! Boy do I know Hinesville well. Lived in the Holiday Inn Express there on 84 for months on end. Know the EOD unit there well too. The warehouse across the street from it was where I stored all my stuff while I was working on post.
Never did wear the 3ID patch, but I was stationed on 3ID base in Germany. Was the only unit there that wasn't 3ID. It was a shame when the third was replaced by the first and the 24th shut down.... Even if it was just everybody changing the patches on their BDUs. Ah well.... Good memories. Keep your head down and your powder dry. Come home safely. |
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| The Lounge | I Want To Work As An Explosive Ordnance Disposal Apprentice In The Air Force | Dec 18 2007 18:40 (UTC) |
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Original Post by mollymouser: This is the same advice my father gave me. I should have listened to him. He was a B-52 pilot and basically told me two things: Life is much better as an officer, and life is much better in the Air Force.
May your husband continue to stay safe. |
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| The Lounge | Iowa Caucus | Dec 18 2007 18:31 (UTC) |
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Original Post by courtbarb: I asked for three and you gave me three, so yes, I would say that is enough for me. I appreciate your answer. I'm simply curious what draws a person to one candidate over another. You're probably right that this thread wasn't intended to outline specific platforms, so I'm happy to let it rest. |
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| The Lounge | I Want To Work As An Explosive Ordnance Disposal Apprentice In The Air Force | Dec 18 2007 18:18 (UTC) |
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If someone is hell-bent on joining the military, this is my advice: Take a job that is useful to you when you get out. When I went and talked to the Army recruiter all those years ago he asked me what I wanted to do and I told him "I don't care, as long as I get to jump out of airplanes." I kick myself for ever being 18 and that stupid. I was offered 13 months at the Defense Language Institute to learn Russian (it was still technically the cold war then and Ivan was going to drive through the Fulda gap any day) and I said "No thanks. I don't want to do that." That sentence is singularly the biggest mistake I ever made in my life. So after 8 years of being all I could be, jumping out of airplanes, rappelling out of helicopters, and blowing stuff up, I found myself disabled. Suddenly I was 26 with a wife and a kid... and NO civilian skills. No matter how hard I looked I couldn't find a want ad looking for someone to kill people and break things. So I struggled for a few years while I went to school and learned a civilian skill. I work in the defense industry now, and all the retired military folks I work with.... They were all logistics and commo. All the guys that the 'hardcore' soldiers made fun of for taking 'easy' jobs are all doing very well for themselves now. There isn't a single infantryman (to the best of my knowledge) in my company. Some day... the military is over and you have to live the same life as everyone else. It's a whole lot easier if you have a way to earn a living when you get out. I work with the Air Force a lot right now and I met a kid whose MOS was 'project manager'. Holy crap. That's awesome. I wish I had the foresight to have been a military PM. I pay my PMs that work for me good money. |
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| The Lounge | I Want To Work As An Explosive Ordnance Disposal Apprentice In The Air Force | Dec 18 2007 16:57 (UTC) |
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Original Post by ornellanicole2007: I want to address you directly and personally now:
I'm not going to say anything that I intend as mean spirited, but neither do I intend to be anything less than completely honest with what I say. I'm a former Army Non-Commissioned Officer. I have exactly two things decorating my office. One is a "Go Army Beat Navy" picture, the other is the NCO Creed. (Google for it). That creed has decorated every office and cubicle I've had since I've gotten out. I have been led and I have led men into battle. I've stood in harms way, pulled the trigger in anger, zipped body bags closed, and cried my eyes out when Taps is played. Men that I've loved like family have been killed and it sucks. It also could have been me. EOD is a seriously dangerous job. There are no two ways around it. It's dangerous. Far more dangerous than just about anything else you can enlist into in the Air Force. No matter where there is a deployment, there is a need for EOD. Think about it... if there is live ammunition, there has to be someone there to take care of it if something goes wrong. That someone is EOD. You will deploy as EOD. It's a question of when, not if. Chances are extremely high that you will deploy even during peacetime. It's a low-density MOS with a high demand for your services. Have you ever risked your life? Ever been in true mortal fear that you might die? Do you think you would be able to do your job when you might die any second? People will depend on you to risk your life to keep them alive... and you'll have to do it. Screwing up means you die. Or lose a hand, or an eye, or have half your face blown off. It's not a game. It's your life and the life of others who are depending on you. Uncle Sam isn't particularly nice to you once he's done with you either, though that's another subject entirely. Joining the military is never something to be taken lightly. It's a serious commitment. Joining the military when you already know we're a nation at war on two fronts is something else entirely. If your motivation is that you have a strong desire to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, by all means....go ye forth and follow orders. The country needs people willing to lay down their life. If, however, you just are looking for college money, or 'something to do' or a 'way to get the hell out of here' I would strongly, STRONGLY suggest that you carefully consider your chosen career field. Because there are some jobs that you need to be more willing to die for unhesitatingly than others. Does that make any sense?
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| The Lounge | I Want To Work As An Explosive Ordnance Disposal Apprentice In The Air Force | Dec 18 2007 16:33 (UTC) |
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Original Post by coach_k: I'm calling B.S. on both counts. Hell yes people straight out of school get deployed. It's a whole lot cheaper to lose an E-3 than an E-7. That's what the lower enlisted are for... catching shrapnel. And though you may be technically correct about not taking anyone, the standard isn't that high, and never was. High school diploma, no significant criminal record, and a passing score on the ASVAB? Hardly any real discriminators there. Ok...maybe you don't scrape the absolute bottom of the barrel, but you can get pretty deep in it.
And before anyone assumes I'm a military detractor, I'm not. My perspective comes from having spent my entire life in or around the military. |
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| The Lounge | Iowa Caucus | Dec 18 2007 16:23 (UTC) |
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Which issues, specifically? I'm curious. Not all of them, say... the top 3 things in order of importance to you that Mr. Obama has pledged to do if elected. If you're comfortable answering that is. The rest sounds, to me, like charisma. |
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| The Lounge | I Want To Work As An Explosive Ordnance Disposal Apprentice In The Air Force | Dec 18 2007 15:03 (UTC) |
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I sooooooooo wish I had the time to address this with the depth of reason that it deserves. But I don't. So I will pose one, solitary question to you:
Who do you think gets called to take care of IEDs when they are found in Iraq and Afghanistan?
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| The Lounge | Iowa Caucus | Dec 18 2007 14:37 (UTC) |
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Serious, non-trolling, question asked to satisfy my curiosity:
Why Obama?
Full disclosure: I'm a foaming-at-the-mouth Libertarian so I don't like Obama. Nor any other "Tier 1" candidate from either of the two major parties. I do, however, like to know what motivates people to support individual candidates. What does Obama have that sets him apart from the rest of the pack? |
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| The Lounge | F-bomb Outback Steakhouse and Their 2900 calorie appetizers!!!!!!!!!!!! | Dec 18 2007 00:23 (UTC) |
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Original Post by tylerdavis: Ah... People like you are the reason I'm embarrassed to show my American passport when I'm overseas. I used to actually argue when people criticized the U.S. and say things like "Well, yes, we do have some stupid people there, but most people are really great and please don't let a few obnoxious morons taint your view of an entire country." But I gave up on that a long time ago. Now I just say "Yup, you're right. Why do you think I'm here instead of there?" I love people who live up to negative stereotypes. Keep up the good work.
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| The Lounge | My cats are cuter than yours. | Dec 17 2007 22:15 (UTC) |
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| The Lounge | A 'Christmas' photo | Dec 17 2007 14:09 (UTC) |
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Every year my parents (who live 4300 miles away) and my wife's biological father (also far away) get photos for Christmas compiling the entire year of what the kids have been up to. This year they're getting digital picture frames loaded with pictures. A couple times they've gotten DVD slide shows that my wife has set to music. Sometimes it's pictures in frames... But it's always pictures. Every year we think we should get them "real" presents, but every year they drop hints that what they really want are more pictures. If someone cares about you and hasn't seen you in a while, a picture is a great thing to send. It'll be cherished. |
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| The Lounge | please send me back to the 80s | Dec 17 2007 14:04 (UTC) |
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Original Post by kathygator: 9th of November 1989, so the very end of the 80's. Geez... I remember going into East Berlin for the first time shortly after the wall came down. It was completely surreal. I still have big chunks of the wall that I chiseled out myself. That concrete is certainly very high on my list of material things that I cherish. I'm sure if my house ever burned down the firemen would wonder why I had run back into the house to save hunks of concrete. |
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| The Lounge | Calling all Artists | Dec 16 2007 13:46 (UTC) |
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Pssst.... Wanna buy a custom guitar? No? Bummer.
I've always derived some part of my income from self-employment and/or side projects. The percentage of that has varied over the years from very little (selling an occasional piece of art) to running my own company. So of course the thought of selling them has crossed my mind. The thing is... The big guys are awfully efficient. Computer controlled everything means high volume production at very low cost. Not only that, but all the "affordable" (less than say.... $1000) models are made overseas where labor is cheap. Anything made in the US uses that as an advertising point to justify the price tag which is usually going to be between $1-3 grand. The market will support guitar sales in the $2k price range, however, certainly not at the volume of three and four hundred dollar guitars. At an average price of $2k a guitar, once you subtract material and production costs, I can't build them fast enough by hand --even if I did it full time, and assumed that I always had back orders-- to make a living. They'd need to go for more like $5-$7 thousand a piece. I'm highly unlikely to get a back log of instrument orders at that price range. So what are my options? I could get financing and build efficient production facilities so I can raise my volume, lower my costs, and increase sales, but that entails a LOT of risk. There are very few major electric guitar manufacturers that still build in the US and all of them make most of their money of from guitars made overseas. The chance of bankruptcy here is HIGH. My business plan would essentially be: "Make myself enough of a threat to one them that they buy me to keep me off the street". Becoming a major manufacturer in the US is so unlikely that I probably have a better chance of winning the lottery. Plan two would be build a really, really nice instrument and try to convince someone famous to play it. Then, said artist, is supposed to rant and rave about how it's the best instrument ever and everyone should get one. That's exactly what Paul Reed Smith did, and boy did it ever work for him. I'm not sure that lightning is going to hit twice like that though. I do, however, sometimes run into professional musicians, so I could maybe go this route. Though I'm probably not going to write a business plan that says: 1.Give guitar to famous dude 2. ???? 3. Profit!! There are other avenues I could explore, but most likely I'll just continue to make them for fun until I either get bored with it and move on to something else (historically, this is the most likely scenario) or I run out of room to store them. Maybe I'll give a few away or try to sell them to aspiring musicians at cost. Actually... that's not a bad idea. Maybe I'll look into donating them to "Save the Music" or something. Give them do underprivileged kids. Hmm... I need to go do some research. |
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| The Lounge | Calling all Artists | Dec 16 2007 02:19 (UTC) |
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Thank you. That was/is my first. I've got the next two all planned out and will probably start working on them in earnest after the holidays.
My wife seems to think the kids should have presents or something instead of me building more guitars (it's not like I didn't already own a few I actually shot probably 40 pictures or so of the process of building it. It is my intent at some point in the future to put a website up documenting the process of building all of them. Here's a couple more photos of it: Customizing the headstock I wanted to make it my own, so I did those graphics. The shape of the guitar is called a telecaster, which I am punning on calling it a hell-e-caster. Notice serial number 0001 A mock-up before I screwed everything together and put strings on it. Starting to wire everything up. I know...not very artsy, but it has to be done Clamping the neck in place so I can mark it up for drilling.
I really had a good time doing that. I can't wait to do more.
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| The Lounge | Calling all Artists | Dec 15 2007 23:37 (UTC) |
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My most recent artistic endeavor has turned towards instrument making. This is the electric guitar I recently built. I've been a tattoo artist, sold a few paintings, done a mural or two, taken an obscene amount of artsy-fartsy black and white photos... You name it, I've tried it. I still haven't found my 'niche' though. So I just keep trying new things. I'm having a good time as a luthier though. I'll probably stick with it for awhile. |
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| The Lounge | Punk Rock | Dec 15 2007 00:43 (UTC) |
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Well, let's see...
My first show was Black Flag. I've had Black Flag bars tattooed on me since before I was even old enough to get tattooed, and I named my first born child --a girl-- Kira. Can you guess what my favorite band is?
Actually, it's the Bad Brains. Seriously.
Being a D.C. area kid in the 80s it's practically a pre-requisite that you love the Brains. I was talking with Doug Wimbish (from the band Living Colour) about six weeks ago and I mentioned I had met him once before at a Bad Brains show fifteen years ago and suddenly he remembered everything about that show to include what he did the day before and the day after. That's the power of the mighty Bad Brains. :D :D :D
I cut my teeth on early American Hardcore which by the late 80s had developed into NYHC stuff. I have almost all of the original Revelation Records pressings --that I bought to actually, you know, listen to-- on vinyl still. If I had any idea that someday there would be something called ebay, I would have bought ten copies of every record I own when I got it and took better care of it. I got a few good ones still though.
My musical tastes have broadened as I've aged but I still rock. I'll stare down a cop at a stoplight while blasting Agnostic Front just like the old days, only now days I've got my teenage kid in the car with me cringing because her dad is such an embarrassing old guy. HA.
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| The Lounge | at what age did you begin to feel old? | Dec 15 2007 00:33 (UTC) |
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Original Post by ofthrees:Original Post by amy_blue: '73 here too.
Class of '91?
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| The Lounge | Omaha shootings | Dec 06 2007 18:35 (UTC) |
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I lived in the area for a significant chunk of the 80s. I definitely remember Westroads. I've got family in the area that I probably need to check and see if they're alright.
I guess I need to send a few emails.
edit: Just looked up the names of the victims. None of them my family. They were all somebody's family though. Such a shame. |
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| The Lounge | I Kill Threads. | Dec 06 2007 01:52 (UTC) |
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Original Post by hkellick: Where does Walrus come from? Is that a fat joke? |
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| The Lounge | I Kill Threads. | Dec 06 2007 01:33 (UTC) |
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No.
I'll give you a hint: Look at the title of this thread. |
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| The Lounge | I Kill Threads. | Dec 06 2007 01:21 (UTC) |
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Take a guess what t_k stands for.
Anyone? |
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