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| Weight Gain | Weight gain and hands | Oct 30 2008 04:00 (UTC) |
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I play piano, too. Do you have any gloves you can try on? See if they fit any differently than they used to. Physically, it is impossible for hands to "shrink". Oh - but there are flexibility exercises you can do with your hands. My grandmother is in her mid 70s and does them so she can reach for the octaves. You may have a similar condition to carpal tunnel, but in the hands themselves.
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| Weight Gain | anorexia is expensive | Oct 10 2008 05:52 (UTC) |
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There's a million benefits to organic food; too long of a list to include here, in fact. It's downside is cost, but for many, it is worth it. But everyone pretty much concedes to the simple fact that unprocessed foods are far healthier. Universally.
http://www.thehealthierlife.co.uk/natural-hea lth-articles/nutrition/pros-cons-organic-food s-00313.html |
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| Weight Gain | anorexia is expensive | Oct 10 2008 04:17 (UTC) |
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It's unfair that specialty health foods cost more, often unnecessarily. I eat 90% organic foods, so I kind of feel your pain. Although, I live with my family, who spend maybe $200 per week for the 4 of us. My own grocery bill is maybe $50 per week. And Trader Joe's is where we do most of our shopping! In NYC, I spent more at stores like Whole Foods and my favorite, Citarella. <3 But organic grocery shopping need not be gourmet shopping. I've tried Stop 'N Shop's organic line, and it's fairly inexpensive and fairly consistent on quality. Things like lean cuts of meats, rice, basic produce, and whole grain breads don't need to be expensive. |
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| Weight Loss | recovered bulimic - problems with losing weight | Oct 10 2008 04:09 (UTC) |
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Kathy Smith is corny, but a good pilates instructor to watch from the comfort of your own home.
She also has a Lower Body Workout, which I've tried and loved. Keep in mind, despite their claims, pilates won't really take off any weight, but it will resculpt your body, slowly but surely. And you'll feel very graceful and lithe. Routine: do it daily. But better yet: join a class and do maintenance at home.
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| Maintaining | short women (5'1-5'3), maintaining 100-110lbs | Oct 09 2008 07:16 (UTC) |
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When I was 16, I wasn't that tall (I grew like 3.5 inches after high school and am now 5'7"+) and somewhere around 5'3" or 5'4" and ate approximately 2500+ calories per day. I also wasn't cognizant about what went into my body because it didn't seem to matter. However, I made a lifestyle decision not long after: going vegan. I was eating the same level of calories but in more wholesome foods and LOST weight (and I was already very thin). At 18, I was 5'4.5" and 103 lbs and eating the typical intake of a grown man (still 2,500 or even more). I guess the point is that I think QUALITY OF CALORIES DOES MATTER. If you ate a truly clean, organic, unprocessed diet on 1600 calories, I seriously doubt you will gain weight. Have you tried switching around the content of your diet? Note that you will never (well, to be safe, I'll say rarely) see an obese vegan. My dad is a nutrition specialist and works with patients everyday on these matters. He helps women lose 40 lbs or more just by changing WHAT they eat (HOW MUCH you eat also matters, but he tries to encourage the former mindset, because it is so much more sustainable an eating style).
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| Foods | How old is too old? | Oct 09 2008 07:08 (UTC) |
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Oh my God. I seriously would have died. Once, I was served an "expired" Fuzzy Navel. Spotted mold. Puked instantly. My aversion is 90% mental, but quite honestly, you can get ill from expired products. I don't recommend doing that again.
Let us know how your stomach & GI tract are tomorrow! ;) |
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| Weight Loss | Is there anyone who doesnt think about what they eat? | Oct 09 2008 06:54 (UTC) |
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I used to never think twice about eating huge amounts of food. Weight was never an issue, so calorie-counting was irrelevant to me. What did start to matter to me, however, was the quality of the food I was eating. That prompted me to adopt a mainly vegan diet in my teens. I still try to follow it to this day. Processed foods give me the heebie jeebies. I'm serious. |
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| The Lounge | Look too young for my age | Oct 09 2008 06:51 (UTC) |
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I'm 23, often mistaken for 18 or 19 or at least "underage". And I don't really mind it. There's nothing earthshattering about looking like an adult. I'm quite well-spoken, tall, confident, and sharply-dressed, which more than makes up for my youthful face and adoloscent body. Anyway, 23 is really young as it is. You can't be a student one year and expect to fit in with the 35 year olds the next (and why would you want to? :p) |
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| Weight Loss | recovered bulimic - problems with losing weight | Oct 09 2008 05:39 (UTC) |
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Yoga & Pilates are your new friends. They make subtle, but relevant differences to your body! Especially Pilates. btw it's shocking that you claim to have gained 35 lbs on 900 calories. Technically, that shouldn't be possible, unless your metabolic rate dropped to a number not previously recorded in human beings (I believe something around 750 was once recorded in a 90 year old, bed-ridden man).
Regardless, stay well & stay fit! See how you respond to cardio and pilates and a 1600 calorie diet of strictly clean foods. It's hard to gain weight on a diet based mainly on organic, raw foods. ;) Even if you don't lose, you will feel wonderful! Which is what matters most. |
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| Weight Gain | gaining on 2000 rather than 3500? | Sep 17 2008 05:31 (UTC) |
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Original Post by agruskin: Hey - no, I've never had an ED, but I've dealt with being "chronically underweight"/borderline hypoglycemic my whole life, so I understand both the reality of being very thin and not knowing how to adjust your diet accordingly. The only times I tried to purposely gain weight were in my teens and it was an uphill struggle. Even with (maybe) 3,000+ calories per day, I only added a few pounds and they immediately came off if I didn't constantly stuff my face, so I stopped trying. When I was 5'4" (at 16), I was (maybe) 100-103 lbs, and my doctor never said I was underweight to a degree that mattered, so I guess by default I see that as a thin, but normal weight. I'm actually around that same weight now but I'm about 2-3 inches taller. The only change in my diet since my teens is that I've gone mainly vegan, and I eat more carefully than I used to. I'm sure my intake is less, but since I don't really count, I can't say for sure. I'm assuming my metabolism is still feverishly high. To be honest, there's a part of me that's intrigued by this whole dramatic increase in caloric intake discussion, because it seems so crazy that it may work. I'd like to see how just how much I could eat without gaining (while still staying true to my vegan lifestyle, which is hard), but it wouldn't be for any reason other than to satisfy my own curiosity (and I know everyone else is dealing with much bigger issues, so I don't want to trivialize it). Anyway, it's disheartening to read the stories of girls who are trying to set themselves straight but who can't find consistent advice on what will work for them. And in that "Upping Cals to Lose" thread, is there a SINGLE PERSON who has stopped gaining and gotten their metabolism sorted out? I feel like there's no one clear success story there, which is very discouraging for anyone reading that thread to reassure themselves that the weight gain is temporary etc. They might even think, "Why bother?".
AGRUSKIN...you are underweight, but again, if you gained 10 lbs, you'd be within a safe range (maybe not according to Calorie Count, but according to most nutritionists and doctors, 107lbs at 5'4" is FINE). If you want to gain higher than that range, then of course, plan for that. My point was that your current weight is low but not CRITICALLY LOW - not the level at which the 3,000-4,000 mechanical eating measures are usually instated. I think that your system is just compromised enough to want to hang onto every extra calorie but NOT compromised enough to be a candidate for TRUE refeeding measures. I guess it's more akin to the crash diet effect - you gain back what you lose and quickly. Although, you've only gained a few lbs. which isn't TOO bad at all. Maybe if you keep pushing your intake upwards, it will continue to burn more. Aim for 2,000 to 2,500 as you said. Try to exercise a bit, too (the morning is best). Light cardio really works up your appetite, which is a sign your metabolism is revving up, too. |
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| Weight Gain | gaining on 2000 rather than 3500? | Sep 17 2008 01:05 (UTC) |
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Theory: Those who are only slightly underweight (agruskin or carmenxox) probably will gain weight back faster than someone who was down to 70lbs(!) at the same height (5'4"). I think when you go that low, it is extremely critical and takes a very long time to build up from. I think being only 10 lbs underweight is more frustrating, because your body will probably gain more on less. |
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| Weight Gain | gaining on 2000 rather than 3500? | Sep 11 2008 00:47 (UTC) |
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They need to create an easy and foolproof way for you to monitor your metabolism each day. I hate how theoretical it is, and even BMR testing can be inaccurate. They also need to create a safe drug that shoots your metabolism through the roof (not speed |
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| Maintaining | Reversing Starvation Mode | Sep 08 2008 11:03 (UTC) |
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There seems to be two approaches to remedying this: A. Upping slowly but surely (1200 right away and then increase from there) B. Drastically increasing (refeeding, essentially) to 3,000+ calories which shocks your metabolism into overdrive, and suddenly you'll be able to stay thin on a huge number of calories. It sounds too good to be true, right? On CC, it seems not many people report back definitively on how either method works out for them in the long run, so we're left with a lot of inconclusive data about how/when/why the approaches above work. A lot of people here who have upped their calories gradually are still seeing weight gains when they are trying to maintain or lose, which I think discourages new viewers/readers to take the plunge, since it doesn't seem guaranteed to pay off the way it should "in theory". If more people posted and said "I did this and it worked exactly as it should have", it would reassure people.
I think maybe that is why the refeeding/mechanical eating approach is the new trend here - it's so crazy that it just might work. But because so many people have just started that method, it's too early to tell if it works out for them. Meesh has educated the forum on this approach, and it worked well for her, so that is encouraging. Danamichael - at the end of the day, you need to weigh your options and do what you feel is more manageable. I guess both seem scary, but perhaps the 3,000+ calorie shock is a way to get it all over with faster and you can theoretically return to a high calorie maintenance level without gaining much/any weight. Ask a nutritionist if she recommends this method for you.
P.S. Surprised there isn't two warring camps on the two methods yet. Meanwhile, no one can answer WHICH WORKS BETTER?! |
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| Weight Loss | what are your hip measurements? and what size pants do you wear? | Sep 08 2008 10:50 (UTC) |
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Hips 32" inches, Jean Size 23 - 25 (depending on brand); Pant Size 0 (US), 36(EU), 4 (UK). |
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| Weight Loss | Your fine as you are... | Sep 08 2008 10:40 (UTC) |
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Another stock response is from a guy: "Guys like curves", "Hips are sexy", "Thighs are hot" and all that rot. Did they ever consider that we don't care what they think either way - that our perception of our bodies isn't for their sake at all? It's actually quite forward of them to think that women's body issues are in direct relation to attracting males, when often, body issues are more to do with OTHER women, if anyone else at all. Many times we are our own worst enemies.
But yeah - I hate it when guys chime in with their generic lines about sex appeal. |
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| Weight Loss | What is the longest you've retained water weight? | Sep 08 2008 10:26 (UTC) |
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I guess maybe a week. I've experimented with water intake, though, and have noted that when I force myself to drink 8-12 glasses when I feel, um, "weighed down", that it passes through me very quickly and within 24 hours I am fully restored. Thus proving that 99% of the time feeling sluggish/fatter is just water under your skin. I don't weigh myself but I can tell when my thighs, knees, and ankles swell that it's a response to something I ate. Or sometimes to alcohol. I guess it's not visible to other people, but it's enough to drag you down! I also notice that doing pilates and stretches helps get the water out (I like to affectionately think of my body as a sponge I am wringing out when this happens) :p
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| Young Calorie Counters | Nevermind, silly me. | Sep 08 2008 09:59 (UTC) |
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Original Post by warbler02: Probably not, but it would be great to stay 100lbs by eating at least 1800 calories. If you can do that, then your body obviously is comfortable at that weight. I am taller than you and maintained that weight by never even watching my diet at all - and not just in high school. Up until last year, when I went vegan (well, 90%), I lost weight without meaning to and have been hoping ever since that my metabolism is still as fiery as it once was. Since I don't eat huge meals like I once did, I don't really get the chance to find out. But because I know that even those with the best metabolisms experience a leveling off at some point, I would like to delay that as long as possible. For instance, my father is nearly 60 and still weighs the same as he did in high school. And still eats ad libitum. I'd like to be able to do that, too, while still trying to maintain a vegan-friendly lifestyle. |
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| Young Calorie Counters | deleted | Sep 02 2008 18:37 (UTC) |
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The average runway model is now at least 5'10" and no more than a size 2. The measurements of choice are 34-24-34, but many girls are encouraged to be closer to 33". Kate Moss's hips are actually 35", and because she isn't too tall, that looks rather hippy for a model. Whereas Lily Cole has 36.5" hips but is essentially 6 feet tall, so carries that weight differently.
"Petite" models usually need to be extremely thin in order to be as proportionately slender and "linear" as their taller colleagues. But even if you were, say, 5'4" and had 32" hips, you won't find any kind of work in high fashion. Many of the more ambitious, exuberantly draped and layered ensembles would drown you. Even Sasha P. ("5'8.5", but more like 5'7", at best) sometimes has trouble carrying off very long or voluminous gowns and needs to wear super high heels to not stand out as especially short. But she is so fierce that the industry has made allowances for her. But it's rare. |
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| Weight Gain | Hypermetabolism? | Sep 02 2008 17:24 (UTC) |
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It sounds like a dream come true, but it's actually quite a Phelps-sized challenge to meet everyday. I'm pretty sure I have a natural hypermetabolism (possibly borderline hypoglycemic even), because I used to eat like 3k a day without even thinking twice and still remained naturally underweight. My father is the same way. But my mother, on the other hand, has hypothyroidism and takes about 6 months just to lose 5 lbs! She hates it. She used to be 110, and then after me & my brother, never got below 130 again. If she started eating 3,000k per day, would her metabolism be forced to speed up or would she just gain a ton of weight?! I am curious about whether this mechanical eating approach works universally or only for those coming back from the brink of undernourishment. |
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| Health & Support | Metabolism Testing? | Jul 18 2008 19:36 (UTC) |
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I have to question the disparity between what the metabolism test reports and what people "think" is their BMR based on the starvation mode myth. My theory is that the test is correct (very rarely will a BMR drop below 1000) and that you still ARE burning more than you think you are in so-called "starvation mode". Your body cannot shut itself off completely. You won't GAIN weight eating 400/600/800 calories, but you may lose weight at such a slow pace that it no longer seems like your "diet" is working. Also, I do think you retain water easier on such a low caloric intake, meaning a lot of the "gain" people often report isn't real.
Revolution3 - you claim your BMR must have been 800 at some point. I wonder if you had it tested then, if it actually would have come out at that number? For some reason, I highly doubt it. It probably was around 1300-1500 even then. |
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| Young Calorie Counters | "guys dig curves" garbage | Jun 02 2008 02:30 (UTC) |
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Whenever I use Opera to post on here, I get these horrific phantom HTML tags accompanying my posts. It's such an eyesore. I apologize. |
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| Young Calorie Counters | "guys dig curves" garbage | Jun 02 2008 02:25 (UTC) |
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1.) In Naomi Wolf's book THE BEAUTY MYTH, she posits that the media gives women two paradigms: the waif and the porn star. One will make you the envy of women and the muse of the fashion-obsessed, the other will make you popular with men, but strictly on biological grounds. Who wants that? Who wants either? Both are horribly objectifying.
From my experience, most women who aim to be critically thin are NOT d oing it for male attentio n, so it is always amusingly tr ite when the 'curves r&nb sp;sexy! u dont have 2b&n bsp;a size zero to be&nbs p;cool' answers are trotted out a d infinitum. Trust me, their ideals ar e not the same as yo urs. Generally the desire to be very thin has little to do with&nbs p;attractiveness to the opposi te sex, and everything to do with control and comparison to other females. If anything, a compliment from a gay fashion designer would be far more thrilling than a wolf whistle from some horny straight male. Again, nothing to do with sex. It's an aesthetic choice.
At the end of the da y, you should live up&nbs p;to your own standard of beauty. Screw what guys& nbsp;think. Screw what anyone& nbsp;else thinks. |
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| Weight Loss | saving on calories through out the week for a splurge day? | May 21 2008 19:08 (UTC) |
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It's a good idea to mix it up every so often, as long as your splurge days aren't completely egregious - there's no need to go over 2,000 - 2,500 on a heavy day. The idea of eating upwards of that is almost sickening - unless you are a super athlete. And of course, the day after your splurge, you can get by with eating very little. One day of very light eating following a heavy feast won't jeopardize your metabolism or wellbeing and will lessen the effects of the "bad" day. |
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| Weight Loss | But you're so skinny... | May 20 2008 18:18 (UTC) |
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People generally have little perspective outside their own circumstances, so anyone thinner than they must be losing weight unnecessarily. It's a defense mechanism and nothing more. |
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| Maintaining | maintain at unhealthy weight | May 20 2008 18:11 (UTC) |
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You know, it is perfectly possible to have a NATURAL BMI under 18. I have my entire life and my doctor tells me constantly I am the picture of health. When my father (ironically, also "underweight", narrow-framed, and the reason I am so) suggested to my doctor that I gain weight (because I had a long flu that year, and he thought I'd heal faster or something), and the doctor said it was completely unnecessary. I used to eat (on average) 2,000-2,500 calories per day and I've never weighed over 105 lbs in my entire life (I'm 5'5"...an inch taller than I thought!). I also have always had very light periods (and why would I complain?). I've survived many injuries without breaking bones, etc. I have become a vegetarian though and have "cleaned up" my eating, and feel 100% better for it. I lost a little weight doing so, but it wasn't the intention. However, I have no desire to regain what I lost because I like the way I look, and my new eating habits are far healthier than my old and extremely nutritious. So, I can relate the OP in this regard. Don't gain weight just because you are blessed with a miraculous metabolism. It would be a shame. |
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| Weight Loss | Is it possible that my body does not "net" calories? | May 20 2008 17:14 (UTC) |
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Two words: water weight. But it looks like you have already lost it, so good for you. |
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| Fitness | what is the best routine to stay active and fit WITHOUT gaining muscle? | May 20 2008 16:40 (UTC) |
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The condescension on this forum is appalling. Most girls who are aiming to look as sleek as possible are alarmed that cardio makes you appear bulkier. What they don't realize is that this isn't real muscle, but the momentary swelling that comes with water retention after a workout. It goes away, but it is certainly alarming at first sight. I've noticed that walking particularly fast (or overstriding) makes this worse. I find that varying the pace on a walk/run helps prevent this buildup of fluids. And drinking plenty of water. |
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| Weight Loss | not losing weight! | May 20 2008 16:28 (UTC) |
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^completely inaccurate. That's not how the body works. It doesn't just slip into the infamous starvation mode because someone is very thin. It isn't INVOKED like that, haha. |
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| Weight Loss | Got all the math worked out--can someone lend me a hand here? | May 10 2008 18:33 (UTC) |
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I agree, that this weight gain does NOT make sense. And while it is easy and convenient for CC posters to chalk it up to the unpredictability of post-ED weight gain, there's still many quotients here that do not add up.
1.)It's not as if your metabolic rate - however "compromised" people think it is - is a mystery. You did, after all, HAVE IT TESTED. Those numbers DO NOT lie. If your BMR is 1350, then you are probably bur ning, at the very least, 1700 calories on a moderately active day. That means you should be maintaining on your current caloric intake, and NOT gaining. Your body ha s no choice but to burn its BMR (which again, IS NOT A MYSTERY in your case) at the very least . No matter what the situation, metabolic burn is always purely mathematical. This idea that ED recovery patients are separate from the basic laws of thermodynamics is ridiculous. The numbers still determine everything; the only difference is that most patients never actually GET their metabolisms tested, and therefore can only work from theory. This is not the issue in your case. 2.) It actually is impossible to gain ten pounds of muscle in four months, even with ex cessive weight training. It cannot happen. 3.) Even if your teenage body is "catching up" and is adding bone and organ mass, how it is managing to do this on your current caloric intake, again, "doesn' t make sense". 4.) The fact that all the weight gain is in your middle is odd, as&nb sp;usually females would gain weight  ;in their lower half first. On the one hand, you are lucky; on the other, it is worrisome as this could point to fibro id or tumor growth in the pelvic region, conditions which can also make you "inexplicably" gain weight. In fact, this mysterious weight gain is right in line with the primary symptoms of many female related conditions. Have you been to a g ynecologist?
They could rule out that anything is out of order& nbsp;in your reproductive system. I hope everything is fine , and that you find an explanation for all this soon!
P.S. Sorry for any weird, phantom html tags that appear in this post. I'm not sure why this continually happens when I post here. |
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| Motivation | Skinny debate -? | Nov 03 2007 02:34 (UTC) |
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How about "lanky"? H aha. I've been called that, as well as "beanpole", which I think is a juvenile term. And no, I don't think&nbs p;you need to be tall&nbs p;to be considered "lanky " or "willowy". It's all about your limbs are rendered in the context of your overall frame.
Instead of using terms li ke "skinny", "thin&q uot; (which all have beco me interchangeable, at least&n bsp;in terms of overall u sage - everyone has their own subtle distinctions,  ;but they aren't all that relevant) tend to think of people in terms of how "linear" they are -- vertical vs horizontal. You can be 5'3" and look much more streamlined than someone 6 inches taller, based on your proportions & how you carry the weight. For example, people don't seem to realize a 5'10" model's proportions can translate directly to a shorter woman - everything else just has to downsize proportionately. (34" inch hips would need to become 31" - 32" inch hips to look as slender in relation to the taller woman, etc.)
I guess my point is that I think people tend& nbsp;to misunderstand what mak es someone look slim, and people end up making&nbs p;generalizations, such as &qu ot;I'm short, so I'll nev er look thin", which  ;is absolutely ridiculous. With the right frame, sho rter people can look more slender than anyone. Lon g legs does seem to make a difference, it see ms. Unless all the muscles di sappear from short legs, it's hard for them to look "sleek ". There are ways to dress&n bsp;around that, of course.
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