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| Health & Support | Is this recovery? Man, this sucks | Feb 21 2009 13:06 (UTC) |
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I am sorry about the loss of your baby. Are you in treatment with a therapist so on because recovery plus this loss does seem like a lot to face. I agree about trying to focus on having a healthy body. Is it really worth it to wake up feeling like crap and that is also a sign that your body may be getting damaged and you don't want that. Also you said 2 weeks the scale has not moved and that is a very short time and uscle does weigh more then fat. Take care of yourself |
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| Health & Support | I just binged for the first time in over 2 months | Feb 21 2009 13:01 (UTC) |
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I am sorry this happened but it does not take away from your progress. Now that it happened it is a time to look at why and then move forward from here. It does not have to be black or white you can still get back on track. What do you think happened to have you binge and what are some ways to help you get through this without food?Try not ot be too hard on yourself |
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| Health & Support | I Need HELP - Really wanting to stop binging!!! | Feb 21 2009 12:59 (UTC) |
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Do you eat balanced meals through out the day with adequate calories? I ask because I think often people restrict and then overeat. I would try to pre plan meals and snacks every few hours that are balanced and adequate. If you do overeat don't restrict because that just continues the cycle. Do you know other reasons you may turn to food? For ex feeling depressed,sad,so on |
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| Weight Gain | Do I want to gain or not??? | Feb 21 2009 12:55 (UTC) |
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Do you think you may have some issues around working out because 2.5 hours is very extreme daily and to me is unhealthy unless an athlete. With 2.5 hours you need a lot of fuel. You don't want to have injuries due to lack of fuel and overuse. |
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| Weight Gain | Struggling.... | Feb 21 2009 12:50 (UTC) |
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Make sure to have adequate dietary fat as well. That is key of course with enough calories and body weight. Snack on nuts,add olive oil to veggies,etc |
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| Health & Support | Mole scab mystery, someone help! | Feb 13 2009 13:20 (UTC) |
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Hi. I have had moles removed that I didn't like and I just had one removed that looked suspicious but turned out it was nothing. You are not supposed to pick at them though cause it can cause infection. |
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| Health & Support | To those in recovery, contemplating help for any problem, or otherwise: a message. | Feb 13 2009 13:17 (UTC) |
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Thanks for sharing and great job on the hard work you are doing. I like how you stated in life what you have and will continue to gain without the ed. I have read your posts and replies and really you seem so strong and know what you have to do to have a better life. It may be hard but you are doing it and that is great. |
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| Health & Support | Really worried... | Feb 13 2009 13:10 (UTC) |
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First Fidget though you mean well there is a way to respond to people that is more kind hearted. I agree everyone needs a kick in the butt once an awhile with an ed but still. I agree with a lot of your suggestions for coping and building a bigger life. I do not agree that one should not make sure especially after loosing so much weight like he has to have bloodwork and a physical. I have and had a lot of health problems arise with refeeding and/or from the ed. It is better to be safe then sorry. You may be right that it is just from regaining weight but who knows. Now Clay I understand the expense of treatment because I have had to always pay out of pocket and have spent an unreal amount for inpatient and outpatient. Some will work on a sliding scale though. Now if this is not an option for myself I am working on ways to build a bigger life outside the ed to make me feel good about me. Same for you. I have read your posts and responses and I was inpatient with a gentleman like you who was kind hearted and had a lot going for him but he did not see it and he had to work on ways to feel this. How are you doing now and with getting back to a better intake? What about in your life in general? It sounds like you are very busy.On a side not I have had the dumbest things said to me by doctors who don't understand ed and it is hard but you have to remain focused on your life goals. |
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| Weight Gain | You'll Never Know Until You Jump! | Feb 12 2009 13:03 (UTC) |
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Recovery is a long process I agree. You have to be physically healthy as a start but the mental side can take awhile. Many of you here are also transitioning into a different time in your life from teenager to young adult. That is a ruff but also exciting time where you experience new things and so many new opportunities come along which you don't want ruined by an ed. I am a older now but had an ed as a young adult entering college and it ruined many times and came with unreversible health problems. Of course now as I try to recover for good like you all there are many fears. I am trying to work on not just the physical but why's though I have for many years and also goals. I do know for me that being consistent even through the bad days trying to get right back on track is key. When I do a few days good and hen flip it is so hard mentally and physically. |
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| Weight Gain | Vent.... kinda frustrated/unhappy | Feb 12 2009 12:54 (UTC) |
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It is going to scare you especially in the start. There is a lot of unknown but people who recover push through the anxiety and fears. Do you know what makes you unhappy and scares you and ways to push through that?You said it has been a week and I am not sure what calories you started at and how much weight you need to regain but is there a way you can work on increasing every few days and pre plan your meals like lalabanana said? |
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| Health & Support | combatting negative food thoughts | Feb 12 2009 12:46 (UTC) |
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For many people ed are about control and I wonder if some of the reasons you don't meet your calorie goal is to control something so to speak? I remember when I was in a good place in recovery yet I still kept little parts it was to keep what I thought was control and that I was scared to give up the ed fully. It is about finding ways to push through those fears because you have to give up all these things to fully recover. I am not sure if your calories that you are consuming are enough cause I am not your doctor nor did you state them. You do need a lot in recovery and often on here I hear people say I am gaining on X but it is not enough. I know its scary to eat more when gaining on less but you need to for repair and to correct metabolism. |
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| Health & Support | Really worried... | Feb 12 2009 12:39 (UTC) |
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Hi. Has your doctor done extensive bloodwork and a physical to rule out any other issues? Now I know for me I tend to regain a lot in my stomach. I have been told that there are organs that need protecting there so at first it will go there. It will redistribute but it takes time and to be consistent. I know it is hard but the more you go back and forth with eating and weight your body can never adjust. It is hard to not get scared when the weight comes on and in a way that is not optimal but it is the only way to get past the eating disorder. I agree with others that you have to work on the issues behind this and I wonder are you in therapy?Take care of yourself |
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| Health & Support | Sleep Issues | Feb 11 2009 18:47 (UTC) |
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I have horrible sleep issues and have tried everything. A few thoughts that may work for you and some questions. Are you under more stress lately or anxiety? How do you fell during the day?I agree that undereating and/or overtraining can cause sleep issues so look at that. If none of these are a concern can you read,for me watching tv,a bath before bed,music/relaxation tapes. Also a bed time snack that is a a healthy so to speak can actually aid in sleeping I have read. |
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| Health & Support | please help, i need a RECOVERY BUDDY! | Feb 11 2009 18:42 (UTC) |
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Hi. I am here too. I have suffered on and off for many years and done every form of treatment multiple times. I am regaining now out of a relapse but this time am really trying to make this recovered for good and work on my both the mental and physical issues in full. As you know it is a daily battle and support can really help. I also joined the no ed in healthy group. It looks like a really positive group and also lalabanana it sounds like you have come a far way. |
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| Health & Support | a little help with an ED | Feb 04 2009 13:20 (UTC) |
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I am sorry you are going through the ups and downs of recovery. When you restrict it is common to go to the other side. Your body is starving and going back forth between restriction and binging is confusing your body as well. I am not sure if you are in treatment but if not can you get into it and also see a nutritionist. You are very young and active and need more then 1200 to be healthy. If you want your body to settle to a normal weight you have to become consistent in a healthy plan. Try to think of having a balanced life instead of like you said all or nothing. |
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| Health & Support | Sorry | Feb 04 2009 13:13 (UTC) |
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I am going to respond here to both posts and I hope that is ok. First off be proud of yourself for posting because it is a sign that part of you wants to get help. This is a public forum so you will get a mix of feedback but please don't leave. You deserve help and I think everyone is concerned for you because you are in such a bad place. Now I know you feel that other boards or docs don't want to help or would not relate but you can't give up. For ex the other boards like the child grief there may not be a mom who uses an ed but may use another addiction to cope. It is not so much the kind of behavior but more how to cope in a healthier way that you can support each other with. Have you been on a board called something fishy. They have different categories and I know grief is a topic. I think you should post on there or look around in general. On the other post you said you felt you were hopeless and there is no such thing. You have to find the smallest piece of hope you have left or even look at your kids now to get through the day in a better way. |
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| Weight Gain | Feeling insecure | Feb 03 2009 13:17 (UTC) |
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A few thoughts. I am back refeeding but have done this a few times before but hopefully this is the change for good to health. Mentally it takes time to not obsessing. Just because you are eating more does not mean the thoughts will disapear. It takes time but the longer you stay healthy the easier it gets. The mental part is the last to adjust. Now I understand the self control issue but that is the ed talking. You getting healthy and feeding your body is self control. Have you looked into why you have an ed and ways to cope better in life? I too tend to compare but everyones needs are different and in recovery you have very different needs.Also not everyone takes care of their body and that is not something you want to pattern. I have a mom with an ed and as I get healthy it is very hard but I try to remind myself what an ed takes away. Now for calorie needs that depends and I have refed from a huge range of different calories in an op or ip bases. How long have you been refeeding at 2300 and how much so far have you gained and what are the goals? I think that you have to remember in refeeding you will gain a lot of water at the start and also you have to remind yourself that you are also repairing organs and tissues not just adding weight. 2300 is very low still for weight gain and repair and you are still very young with higher needs. |
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| Weight Gain | Consciously eating more - having trouble coping.... | Feb 03 2009 13:08 (UTC) |
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I hope you get or got the call for more intense treatment. Trust me as I regain weight and eat more it is a daily battle to push through the thoughts and do it. I think many here gave good ideas and thoughts. I know for all people who recover fully they have to push through the fears and anxiety of gaining or changing behaviors for the better. It is very hard but in the long run gives on a better life. I agree with the list of goals,ways to cope like journaling/calling a friend. I am trying to stick to a meal plan and think of it as prescribed medicine. Let us know what happens |
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| Weight Gain | Does anyone have any ideas? | Feb 03 2009 13:01 (UTC) |
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Can you see a nutritionist since you are facing diabetes issues along with an ed? If not I know ip I followed an exchange mp based on the ada. If you google it there are exchange mp. Since you are on weight gain I would just add extra servings of course. I know to keep blood sugar leveld my old nutritionist said it was key to have carbs/protein/fats. I would think food that are whole grain,lean meats,and healthy fats in larger portions would be a healthful approach |
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| Health & Support | Grief & anorexia | Feb 03 2009 12:28 (UTC) |
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Hi. I am so sorry about your loss. I can't even imagine what you are going through. I wish I had some words to take away your pain as well. I suffered many years with anorexia and have a mom who suffered my whole life with anorexia and still today. I know the loss of her mom though different sent her into a spiral of her ed as well. I really feel she didn't allow herself to grieve and feel the feelings so she numbed out with an ed. It is very hard even through my struggles to watch my mom in an ed and be concerned about her even as a little child I knew something was not right. My mom like you was not a bad mom but sick. Actually my mom is my best fruiend and truly is the greatest other then her anorexia. You I am sure are the same as you sound very caring. I know things are different with treatment out of the US. I do think something needs to change and you need to find the strength a push through and do things you don't want to but have to for yourself and your family. That means reaching out for help whether it be inpatient or outpatient. I understand you may not be ready to talk about certain things but the healing process can not start until you begin to even if it slowly. For your mind to think though it has to be nurished. I don't see mention about your husband. Is he supportive? What about others like your mom or extended family to reach out to?Someone to talk to ot to help you with meals. If you want an email buddy I am here too. Please take care of yourself and again I am so sorry. |
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| Health & Support | Tired of gaining on minimal calories! | Jan 30 2009 13:29 (UTC) |
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Hi. I am assuming you had anorexia since you have gained 30 pounds and are now 120. I have been in and out of recovery for many years and had many ups and downs with my weights. I can remember a time when I was eating 4000 and a time when I was eating like 1800 and still gaining weight. I have been told that your body is confused and will slow down if it is not nurished correctly. At first you may gain extra but then your metabolsim should speed up. Not to be personal but do you get your periods? If not that is a sign you are not eating adequatly. You also need to allow yourself to reach a weight that is good for you and that may not be a very small size but can allow you to be healthy. You are very young and 1600 a day with exercise is what too little in my eyes. Can you try to increase a few hundred calories every week? Has your doctor tested your bloodwork etc to make sure that is ok and no other health concerns? Can you see a nutritionist to help you |
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| Health & Support | eating disordered - no insurance - can't afford treatment - what now? | Jan 29 2009 14:57 (UTC) |
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I responded to your other post as well and I am sorry you are struggling and are facing surgery. I know this is a hard battle but please try to stay strong and recover so you can be strong for your surgery and life. I have insurance but it does not cover my ed treatment and never did. Even when I was in the cardiac unit from my anorexia and severly underweight they would not cover any ed treatment so getting super low is not the answer and it is only hurting yourself. Is there any way you could afford op treatment as some will work on a sliding scale of what you can afford. Most people who work with ed know this is also a mental disorder so it is not just about weight. Please take care |
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| Health & Support | is it necessary to tell my surgeon about my anorexia? | Jan 29 2009 14:45 (UTC) |
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YES you need to tell them and all your doctors who treat you. This is not just about weight but what an ed can do to your organs and so on. They can't help you fully if you are not honest. I hope you can push past the fears and realize this is a disorder and nothing to be embarrased about. |
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| Health & Support | After Anorexia self-esteem issues | Jan 29 2009 14:43 (UTC) |
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I know how hard this place in recovery can be as I have been there where physically I was healthier but mentally still struggled. Are you in therapy and if not can you get into it? Finding the reasons behind why you have this is key to recovery. Also to work on ways to make you feel better about you. You are not your outside and part of building self esteem is becoming a whole person. That means finding a job,hobbies,the inner stuff that makes you. Some of your behaviors right now sound like you are heading towards a relapse with eating less and exercise. This is not the answer to feeling better as you know. I hope you will reach out and get more support and take care of yourself |
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| Health & Support | IP for ED | Jan 27 2009 22:14 (UTC) |
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Hi. I have been ip many times and your fears are normal. I am from the US but ip is a place for you to learn tools for healthy living in a supportive environment. I was ip with someone who too lost a huge amount of weight in a short time but had a normal BMI. This still can cause major health complications that are not reversible. Also ed are a mental and physical disorder and there are reasons behind this not just about being thin. I know you are scared but hopefully this will help you get on a healthier track. |
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| Weight Gain | need ideas to gain wieght. | Jan 27 2009 22:10 (UTC) |
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I have been ip many times and ensure was not used as a replacement but as an addition to a full meal plan. I have seen this supplement along with others like Boost given to many from severly under to almost weight restored to meet high calorie needs in recovery. Some people in recovery need over 3500 which is not a normal way to eat for many. I know a director at a program I was at wanted people to add ensure to a more normal sized meal plan so that when weight was restored they could just eat the same plan but take out the ensure. |
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| Weight Gain | People who see a nutritionist? | Jan 27 2009 22:04 (UTC) |
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First thank you but I don't think it is good to discourage people from having ensure. Yes food is key and part is normal eating but also Ensure can help some till they get to a better place or for some like myself it is needed for nutrient issues and to get enough calories. Most ip places for eating disorder recovery supplement with ensure |
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| Weight Gain | need ideas to gain wieght. | Jan 27 2009 16:35 (UTC) |
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Have you been checked by a doctor to make sure there is not anything medically going on? If not try to think in 2's like 2 pb sandwiches,dense breads,granola or other calorie dense cereals. Can you add in ensures? Think 3 meals and 3 snacks at least a day. |
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| Weight Gain | People who see a nutritionist? | Jan 27 2009 16:31 (UTC) |
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Thank you for your replies. Mars is that like 6 to 8 grains in the ounces like 1 slice of bread is a grain? I am starting to drink the ensures too and today I am upping it 2. How are you both doing on a mp and gaining? Do you find anything helpful to get through the anxiety and stick to the plan? |
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| Weight Gain | gained 7 lbs - but dont feel like ive earned it - confused... | Jan 26 2009 20:33 (UTC) |
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First I have been inpatient and daypatient treatment and there are all different sizes from under to over. This can damage your body and mind regardless of weight and anyhow you are under. I know your fears as the weird weight gain can happen. Your body is confused and can hold onto a lot of water when refeeding. I know and it is very hard and scary but it is important to be consistent with enough food so your body can trust you and not hold onto the food in fear of restriction. Your metabolism can take time to jump start too. Hang in there and try to push past your fears |
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