Posts by jade_100

Original Post by fitmom4life:

No website calculator can tell you your lean mass and fat mass.  Your best bet is to get a body fat monitor scale.

 

At 139, at 5'7", I assure you I have plenty of curves.  LOL.

Ok i write this with a bit of caution as i fear there may be some backlash. No one seems to have mentioned the fact that tasherie is of mixed ethnicitites. now i don't know which one of you is in the picture but in my opinion some, and i stress SOME black women can carry a lot more weight and look a lot better. i'm mixed raced and whilst my butt is by no means flat i definately did not get the booty jean. to my dismay!!! however my boyfriends sis is fully black and probably a little overweight. but honestly she looks good. you could balance a plate on her derrier and she does NO exercise. her arms whilst a lot bigger tha mine look firm and theres no bingo wings.

Some, again some white/european/mixed race people look a lot more soft and unfit when they are at a larger weight. Now i'm not saying that this is the case just because you're white and she's black but because you're saying you looked terrible at theat higher weight whereas tacherie is pretty happy. she can't be that much in denial!! especially since she has such a small waist for her weight. i would bet your waist wasn;t that size at her waist. i sure as hell no mine wouldn';t be.

Now me i'm 5'5'' and thought i looked pretty overweight at 135 but i can completely believe that the poster would look good 30 pounds heavier.

Sure she would look a lot bigger than me but it wouldnt look 'bad' big if you know what i mean it would just look solid.

another few examples example: my grandma is really quite overweight. but she has no cellulite and no bingo wings- honestly is defies gravity!!

my sis is a few inches taller than me and probably lighter than me but she has a huge butt. we both have boobs but her butt is amzing.and i don't mean hips no no no from the front she looks lean with slim hips but then she turns to the side its like wow!

i really think you should show your mum this post. you expressed what was happening to you so well that I think it would be impossible for her not to finally 'get it' once reading your post.I was so touched reading your post and i'm a stranger so hopefully the effect on your mum will be even stronger.

I know it will be hard but perhaps even though you say she knows about your disorder you may not have stressed just how bad it is and how much it is consuming your life. once she realises that this isn't just something that you can stop doing- its a mental disorder- she will be more williung to help. perhaps she could even sit up with you during the nights that you feel that you need to binge. she's your mum i'm sure she would do this for you. 

good luck. the sooner you can start the road to stopping this behaviour the sooner you can start enjoying your life to the fullest! xx

mmmm jammie dodgers!!!! and hobnobs!!! oh dear i want some now :(

yeah i just want to agree with susiecue. my bmr is about 1450 while my sedentary burn (my rmr) is 1850 so if i'm losing i never go below 1450 even though its less than the 500 deficit- which makes sense as i am already a healthy weight and so it should be slower to lose any weight. If i were to do anything above sedentary i'e exercise i would eat more so that my deficit was no more than 500. if that makes sense!! :)

I just want to add a few points.

Firstly I think one of the most important and mentally beneficial thing a parent can do for their child is show them love. seems obvious doesn't it, and i hope you don't take offense because i am not accusing anyone of being an UNloving parent not at all. Its just I think sometimes i think you have to tip the scale inoverdoing it rather than underdoing it- lots of hugs, kisses, affection and attention including conversation. I know my parents love me and i have always thought of them as loving but it's wierd although i give my dad a kiss when i see him i would never feel comfortable to just go over to him sink my head into his chest and give him a big hug. and the only time i really hug my mum is when I'M comforting HER.

This leads me on to my next point the thing that most people with eating disorders share is the need to be 'perfect'. I was expected to be a lot more mature than my years growing up and i think this led to an unintentional pressure put upon me. I think making sure children know that it doesn't matter if they're not the best at everything or that its ok if they make a mistake. Sometimes you have to make this really obvious and not just assume they know it, similar to showing them love, for example if they do well in an exam it would be great to say well done but i'd love you even if you didn't do the best in your class things like that.don't just assume they know youlove them tell them-alot!!

Now i have no idea if the issues with your daughter is something to worry about or not so i can't shed any light on that i'm sorry but even if she does just have a small appetite showing her even more love and letting her know imperfections are normal and wonderful won't hurt anyway!!

i think that an extra yoghurt would be fine ON TOP of a normal healthy amount but she isn't eating a normal healthy amount and isn't at a healthy weight. therefore it is important that you eat enough to GAIN to a healthy weight and then on top of that add the extra yoghurt. sorry i just don;t think that in this particular situation an extra yoghurt is going to be enough! thats why i suggested the 3000 number.

Original Post by crazybeautifulxo:

okay so.. "flabby" .. what exactly do you define as flabby? i mean if it's just not nice, firm abs then i'm ok w/that.. for now i'm focusing on getting rid of the fat on my face, arms, etc. (wherever it decides to come off) and would like my stomach flatter, .. not neccesarily toned.. maybe when i'm down to my goal weight i was thinking about then incorperating a little cardio and some weight training to firm up.. depending on how i look & feel.  cardio is the killer for me. i am completley miserable when i exersize and time goes by sooo slow.. anyway, whats your guys' definition of flabby?

i think that whilst cardio is great for your heart and stamina and does burn calories so you can eat more- strength training will be more beneficial in toning- so maybe you could incorporate some of this first and then try and get some cardio in further down the line. i think- and i'm not an expert don't do it myself but:) that if you do lunges, squats, pressups etc and can't do more than around 10 at a timethen it counts as strength trining and will tone you up- as you get better and stronger you may have to add some weights to keep the max numebr you can do at a time at about 10. but you can do this at home in front of the telly along with maybe some ab work so a couple f reps of ten of these will be less boring than 40 minutes on the eliptical!!!

but then again i can't talk i haven't dragged myself to the gym in forever!

oh and stick thin- i'm sure you'll read loads of this if you scan through more of the threads but no female over 21 should eat less than 1200,  no less than 1500 if you're under 21- it really won't help you're weight loss in the future. search starvation mode in the forum search and you'll get loooooaaads of info

you'll see that there are some arguments on here over when starvation mode kicks in and some feel that some are too quick to use it as the answere to every query BUT what pretty much everyone does agree with is that you should eat minimum 1200.

ha no i wasn't saying you should deep fry them- its just how my grandma used to do them in nigeria. i actually tend to grill them but i havn't had them in a while.

really, i think anyone trying to eat healthily will realise its perhaps not wise to deep fry anything!!

see now i feel bad for the op!! i was just trying to make a point maybe i should have just bitten my tongue so i hope the op isn't offended!!its just no one holds there tongue or seems to care about there feelings when its the opposite case so i was just trying to make that point! :)

i would also like to add, sorry, that as a binger i have been known to eat more than what the op described. i know that this is a serious problem, dangerous for my body and i am doing my best to overcome this, one week today yay!. i would welcome any critisism and advice with this issue if i posted as i know it is a problem. so i am in no way judging you i sympathise!

lalabanana, sybil878 was commenting on the 4700 the op had eaten not the 2700! perhaps you missed that and thats fine if you did but the op clearly stated that they had eated 3 times there normal saturated fat and sodium. this is clearly unhealthy and i think that is what sybil was focusing on.

i'm sorry to put a downer on this we need to be fair when giving advice to both undereaters and overeaters.

if this had been written the other way it would write: on this morning i weighed x (underweight). then i underate for four days (half my needed calories, a third of my needed fats, a third of my required sodium) wierd. has anyone else noticed this too?...something along those lines.

now i am not for once suggesting that the op is promoting overeating of feels good about doing it but they should really say this. again if it had been the other way it would have been jumped on, quite rightly!, but it just confuses me that you didn't feel the need to give any healthy advice in this instance and actually questioned someone who did.

of course you could have just missed this in which case fair enough. and the op seemed to go back to a healthy eating regime so thats all good :)

Original Post by mochi-chan:

What is your goal, weight gain? Because if it's weight loss, I'm going to go against a multitude of posters here and say, if you're not hungry, you don't have to eat it. Your body will let you know if it needs food, so why feed it unneccessarily just because a calculator on the internet tells you to?

The thing is the longer you continue to not eat enough the smaller your apetite becomes and then it becomes an unreliable measure of whther you should eat or not. if that makes sense. i bet if he upped his calories to like 2000 he would start to get the natural feelings of hunger again and so would be able to trust his body to tell him when to eat and when to stop. often anorexics will 'not feel hungry' or feel full on an unhealhty low amount of calories.

furthermore food is not just to stop you feeling hungry, its to give you enough essential nutrients, vitamins minerals and fibre for your body to survive. the calculator isn't giving you the number of calories you need to stop feeling hungry- its giving you the number you need to live!!

i'm in my final year of a chemistry degree :)

yes carbohydrates are not an 'essential nutrient' in that we don't NEED them for energy. however if we only ate proteins and fat to prvide us with the energy we required for a day we would eat far to much fat, sodium etc and not get near enough nutrients, vitamins and fibre. furthermore the brain finds it difficult to utilize energy from fats so would have to get everything from the few amino acids it can utilize.

so to conclude you do need carbs to be healthy- by all means make sure that most of it is veg, fruit, oats, and the brown stuff but if you cut it out completely you would surely suffer. the reason that  it is recommended 40-60 % is because with that balance you can get the right amount of easily accessible energy without having to overkill yourself with fat and meat, along with enough vitamins and minerals to keep you healthy.

the only fact is that if you eat less calories than you use you will lose weight. everything else is more a personaly choice. i personally keep my carbs to oats with breakfast, fruit and veg with lunch and veg and brown rice/sweet potato with my dinner- its pretty low carb in comparison to the protein i take in but again its all personal preference.

Original Post by bigbitty:

You know, you're right, I don't want to be "mean", but being on these forums, and reading these posts for the time that I have been on CC (longer than this screen name) I have tried to play nice, and beat around the bush, and you know sometimes you just get to the point where you can't take it anymore.

Sometimes these types of posts need to be nipped in the bud. Too many people are saying really silly things, that can give ppl bad ideas and perpetuate bad behavior.

You may see it at a HARMLESS little post out of ignorance, but you know what I see? A person with an ED & an altered thinking pattern taking this as condoning "THAT" type of post.

I think the fact that everyone is so scared to step on someone's toes that this just goes by unnoticed, and this post would have died, to be picked up later and misconstrued.

I see a LOT of people on here giving bad/misinformed advice, I even have posts where if I didn't get pulled up on it, they could have been totally taken out of context.

By being blunt I am attempting to remove ANY AMBIGUITY about what I am saying. So that when said ED person comes strolling onto this post, they don't get the wrong idea.

you wouldn't want to give anyone the wrong idea, now would you?

geez, sometimes I wish there was a middle finger emoticon for some of these posters who are trying to protect these kinds of posts...

 

EDIT: I know its a harsh response to your condescending attitude, but i found there is a suitable emoticon

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wow. ok firstly i have no idea what this little 'emoticon' thing is supposed to be and i'm sure i don't want to. You have, however just proved my point and confirmed what i already said about you.

my attitude was not condescending, it was polite, i'm sorry if you can't distinguish between the two- there. . . that right there was condesceding.

I was simply suggesting that, since the poster had already admitted that she was wrong, was there any reason to continue to berate and belittle her.

I don't know why i expected anything more than a middle finger based on your previous posts and and i am too much of a lady to respond personally to that profanity so instead i'll just laugh :) comforting myself with the fact that i was polite, lady-like and dignified when i simply suggested that you refrain from bullying other posters, and that some people, when faced with any type of critisism, constructive or otherwise, can find nothing else to do but hide behind some loud, crude words and a middle finger.

have a good day

the sodium won't evaporate at the temperatures you cook with only the water evaporates so yes you still have to count the sodium. sodium boils at 883 celcius!!!! theres no way you could reach that tempereature!! if you boil a pot of stock you will notice that as the volume decreases the stock gets saltier and stronger in flavour- its because you are just evaporating of the water and so the stock is becoming more concentrated!

olive oil is olive oil and can't lose its calorie properties. if you brush a tablespoon over your chicken you need to count a tablespoon of oil's calories (about 120 calories i think)