Posts by monarch777

Original Post by cptbunny:

Haven't see you around in forever, Monarch! Nice to see you again!

 Thanks cpt ! Been on "facecrack" a lot. Back here for motivation and to check in on some of the cool people here I used to know !

Original Post by pgeorgian:

Original Post by monarch777:

Original Post by sun123:

Monarch, is this colorado your speaking of? Please provide some specifics on the situation youre addressing - its hard to discuss otherwise.

 I will pm you.

and then sun can fill in the rest of us?

 Yeah. She isn't as snotty and rub-your-nose in the carpet..as some people.

But for citizens, we must prove our income to show that we truly need the help. I think the sliding fee scale in this program that is normally applied for US citizens should also be applied to undocumented aliens. That would be fair. They are working here...supporting their families, and buying cars and houses.

I hope Mr.Obama digs in on a national heath plan. I really do.

There are PLENTY of children that have no health care insurance, medicaid or even the CHP plan because of income requirements. I am sure the numbers exceed 15% in our district. Too "rich" to get help, but too poor to afford to pay cash to go to the doctor. As a single mom, I was there myself. It was impossible to get help.

I am just wondering why some people have more rights than others. I wasn't trying to say that children should DIE. I am just saying that it should be an equal opportunity.

Well, I guess they have more rights than the kids who are poor and were born here. If they are going to take care of kids...they should take care off ALL the kids who need help. Not just a select group.

Chew on that.

Original Post by pgeorgian:

the only reason i can think of to be afraid to speak your mind is that you don't know what you're talking about.  it that's the case, then--yeah--call it bravery. or whatever.

 Gee..what could you point out specifically and logically, without crude and disparaging remarks....that I "do not know what I am talking about" in this thread? Opinions are not fact...they are opinions, and like sphincters...everyone has one.

I also find it very egocentric that you thought I was even thinking about you in the "pack of hungry dogs" comment.  That's funny.

Well, perhaps the people who value their genetic material will keep procreating, and the people who think that their embryos are a primordial sludge will let science dissect it and use it...and eventually the people who have more live children running around...whom they have raised and influenced with their way of thinking, will eventually be in the majority of thought.

Scary eh?

Seems like everyone here is happy about stem-cell research...kind of a boring discussion without someone brave enough to say they do not agree ! But they probably dare not. There is an article on MSN with a livelier, more diverse discussion going on.

http://health.msn.com/health-topics/articlepa ge.aspx?cp-documentid=100234420&gt1=31036 &ucpg=2#uc2Lst

How about some big, thick, chewy browinies, laced with laxatives in your lunch bag ? The perp would be spending the afternoon in the loo....

*Is sending ud a poster of Nick in his half-zipped up wetsuit...:P

He IS cute. My husband is a cutie too...hard fend of men AND women. (*sigh*)

He shares his life with Ceri, a very beautiful, tolerant and understanding partner, and his little daughter, Elvie. Their home includes a psychotic parrot called Thomas and an ever-expanding menagerie of weird and wonderful exotic creatures.

 (Sorry Ud...he is straight..bummer dude.)

Original Post by shaded44:

Original Post by hatamoto:

In today's society it's unusual, but in agrarian societies of the past it wasn't at all strange for people to be married and popping out kids at the age of 16 and under.

Today we tend to put kids into a permanent state of adolescence that lingers for a long time, sometimes lasting well into their 30s. Back in the day, there were more clearly defined boundaries between when someone was meant to be treated as a child and when to be treated as an adult. Because those rites of passage are essentially removed now, there's a general perception that these proto-adults are still children until some arbitarily decided age.

... but back in the day, I guarantee you that 13 year old would have known every aspect of how to operate a farm, including how to populate it with some of his own offspring to help out.

FWIW, it's not unusual for 13 year olds to have sex. It's unusual for progeny to result as most young women recognize they're ill equipped to deal with a child.

But back in the day . . . life expectancy was only 39 (in 1850).  You were middle aged by the time you were 20, so you had to start popping kids out younger. 

As education in a society increases, so does the life expectancy and the age at which people have children.  Conversely, the birth rate decreases because you don't need 10 children to help run the farm any more.  So comparing modern day London to an agarian society is comparing apples and cows.

 Well, conversely, one doesn't actually need 14 children NOW either...maybe we need to get that octuplet mom her own FARM. She could milk cows and plant veggies...and her kids could learn self-sufficiency as well !!!

Back to the subject....

My son is 22. He is definitely not mature enough to be a father yet. And NO...we did not " infantilize"him. Just because one has the equipment...doesn't mean he or she is ready to be a parent. I really hope that IF Alfie is indeed the biological father, that they do not try to make him a "daddy". What kind of damage could that do? Having a parent who could be your sibling? Actually, I know some mothers who had their children at 14. They aren't doing such a good job. How could they? They still needed parenting themselves.

Original Post by loriklorik:

I think you are looking at the sittuation wrong....

You are the teacher, its your job to help raise these kids (teachers are a big part of a childs life).... because its such a young age, you are getting them before the system filters them (like you wont find a kid acting like that in higher education). The child obviously is having lots of trouble in his life if he is trying to get kicked out.... maybe he is having trouble at home? Maybe something else is going on? But its your job to help them (all of them, not just the good kids who come from good homes and have been raised well).

Talk to the kid. Find out whats going on. Ignore the insult because it means nothing, its just him lashing out from other problems going on. Figure out what needs to be done to help the kid move on with his life...or help him understand what his options are....

Teachers arent just robots who read a book mindlessly to the students in their class. You are there to help them develop and learn a wide range of things. YOU are the adult and YOU have your stuff together.... you arent their equal, you arent just one of the kids, you are a mentor and a person who is in a possition to really guide how these kids end up as they pass through those early years.

If you didnt want to put up with developing people ...you should get out and find a job where you just deal with people who are already matured (IE, not lower education).

 Lorik, unless you have been a teacher...you can't possibly understand what an insurmountable amount of CRAP that teachers have to dig through just to get to the core job of teaching ! We have first year teachers who try to become the mushy-couselor/caring types and they end up being chewed up and spit out..by either the parents or the administration. The administration wants the students to be academically strong...(if you are wasting the entire classes time counseling a wayward child, you are robbing the other kids of their instructional time.) So much of our staffs time is taken up by discipline that it leaves less and less time to teach the kids who's parents have taken the time to teach them those things AT HOME....rather than leave it entirely up to the school. And with the pay that teachers get...I'd say telling them to get another job might be wise. But who is left who wants to deal with the garbage? It starts at home. You cannot raise a little jerk with no manners and then expect to send them to school and let teachers fix it.

Perhaps that is what is wrong with society in general. The attitude that it is someone elses job to fix your problems.

Original Post by dalmalama:

am i the only one who doesn't think she looks like angie jolie, but like janine garofalo?

 http://www.radaronline.com/photos/2009/02/nad ya_suleman_octuplet_mom.php

This is what she USED to look like. She denies having any work done on her face. What I want to know is, how can she afford the luxuries of 100 babies and plastic surgery? She only got about 167,000 from her settlement. What a weird way to "invest".