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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Dec 07 2009 19:25 (UTC) |
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Donna - If you gave us the entire list of food intake for a complete day, then I'm worried about you. An off-the-top-of-my-head estimate is at most 800 calories. Doing less than 1200 per day is unhealthy and counterproductive. If you eat too little, your body will shut down the metabolism, putting more and more of what you eat straight to fat stores. Is your doc working with you on this? If your doc says it's good, then don't listen to me. But, sheesh, that's an awful little to eat per day. Carol the worry-wort |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Dec 06 2009 17:55 (UTC) |
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Wow. Everyone is doing well. Even those of us not losing just now are making necessary mind changes, which will benefit us later on. Good on everyone! It almost seems like we're making New Year's resolutions ... except that these aren't so much resolutions (which are easy to forget) and more like promises to ourselves. Keeping promises is important. We all recognize that honor demands we keep our promises ... to others. Well, it's JUST as necessary for our honor that we keep ALL promises; perhaps particularly those to ourselves. Didn't weigh myself this morning, so I don't know about weight. Wii says I've lost 2 pounds since yesterday ... somehow, I don't think so. I don't pay much attention to the Wii's measurements, other than making sure it's a downward trend over time. My scale is much more accurate. So next week, I'll have a report. Doctor's visit on th e 15th is my current goal. I want to have lost a measurable amount of weight by then. I'm back to doing yoga. Not exactly strenuous exercise, but at least it's something. And I'm doing the gentle exercises from PT. Again, something. At least I'm not simply a couch potato. But yes, I'm looking forward to the time when I can get in there and exercise for real. No one is mentioning water. I'm having trouble with it. It was easier when the weather was warm or merely cool; I tend to want to drink a lot then, anyway. Now that the weather is cold, it's harder. I much prefer ice water ... and then I get super cold! I'm drinking water all the time, but I don't think I'm getting the full 64+ ounces per day. How about the rest of you? Margie: HONK HONK HUGS |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Nov 29 2009 22:53 (UTC) |
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Great December thoughts, Donna. Thanks. It really is all about choices. That's what brought me back here and starting in again at losing weight. A good friend pointed out to me that, even though I can't exercise as I'd like to in order to lose weight, I can still lose by watching what I eat -- choice by choice. Alcoholics talk about taking it one day at a time. I think we need to take it one choice at a time. What I choose right now -- good or bad -- still leaves me with the next choice, and I can go either way -- good or bad. Well, maybe not so much good/bad - that sounds so judgmental. And something that would normally be a bad choice might be a good choice given circumstances. It's really just about deciding each time calories go in: Is this the way I want to allocate my calories right now. Just be thoughtful about it. Will this food, right now, get me closer to where I want to be? A treat now and then won't hurt. I really believe that. But if I can't stop at one, then the answer may be no, this treat is not a good choice for me right now. So I choose fruit instead. I'm rambling. But I think you all get the idea. Another pound down - total of 5 from starting, over a 2 month span. Much more slowly than I like, but I'll take it, considering I'm not exercising! |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Nov 28 2009 16:43 (UTC) |
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Donna - How sad about your nephew. I'm so sorry. Hugs. Exercise helps with emotions, particularly sorrow and stress. It's all those endorphins. So good luck with your round-robbin-house trades. Exercise -- it's not just for weight loss anymore; you need it doubly. Welcome back Rose! Thanksgiving was quiet, but good. Friday we broke out Xmas, so the house looks nice and festive. BUT, no sweets out to tempt. No pumpkin pie or cranberry sauce with the meal. I was very, very good. Water ... well, I need to ramp that back up. Sigh. I'll do a full report tomorrow - or Monday, since we'll be gone tomorrow. But I wanted to get back to Rose and Donna. Hang in there, ladies. |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Nov 23 2009 02:42 (UTC) |
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Original Post by carolf_new: Oops. Sorry. I meant Alice, not Margie. It's still impressive, though. |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Nov 22 2009 16:41 (UTC) |
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Hi all, Margie - 9 miles! Oh, how I wish I could do that! Way to go! In fact, I'm getting concerned about just how inflexible I am. I can't clasp my hands behind my back without pain, for instance. I'm too young to be this old! I'm hanging in there. Decided not to buy another machine. I already have the Weider Total Body Works 5000. It's not very smooth, which is a problem for what I'm doing in PT, hence the search for pilates machine, which I'm using at PT. However, we've figured out how to jury-rig the body works into something I can use for now. And husband -- who did all the jury-rigging in the first place, is looking into making me a performer. How's that for devotion? Husband and I will be home alone for Thanksgiving, as well, so it will be a quiet one. We'll either roast a chicken, or we'll look into the possiblity of ordering a Thanksgiving dinner for 4 made by the grocery store deli. Bring it home, heat it up -- voila! Thanksgiving dinner plus leftovers, the easy way. I know I could do this at the grocery store near my mother's home in the Chicago area, so it's not impossible. I just have to see if the local folks do it. Progress? None, really. Holding in place; that I am managing. Weighed in this morning at 224. That's holding the 4-lb loss from 228 I had last week, with little to no exercise (the machine was under reconstruction ...) So I hope to shed a pound or so this next week. Ok all. Drink that water. Walk that mile. Tote that barge. Or something like that. |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Nov 09 2009 22:47 (UTC) |
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Hey, everyone. Sorry I missed yesterday, but I'm checking in now. Water consumption getting better, although I still need to push a bit more. Eating has been going fine ... I'm back to counting calories. I could eat better foods, but I'm sticking to my calorie plan. Yeah, Margie, I'll hang in there with you. PT is progressing. Today we went to Costco and I walked the entire store ... something I've never done before. Then when we got back, Husband and I took our 0.8 mile walk. I had to stop and rest 3 times, but I did it. THEN I went and did PT! I'm tuckered is what I am. Question -- anyone doing Pilates? Or, more specifically, any one doing Pilates on a ProForm pilates reformer? I need to know how good/bad it is -- particularly how smoothly it glides. I may post this to a wider group, as well. Flu - yeuch! Get better soon! Carol |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Oct 30 2009 15:45 (UTC) |
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Margie - I know it's frustrating when your body keeps putting roadblocks in your way. Hang in there! I can't exercise right now, either. We're working on it in PT, but meanwhile ... However, I am still losing weight, one very slow pound at a time. I'm being more careful than usual about what, how much and when I eat. I try to keep it nutritious, light and regular (every 4-5 hours). Since I can't do the exercise, the intake is even more important than normal. Of course, eventually just the eating will not be enought -- I'll have to address the calorie burn. But I'm doing what I can. Maybe something similar would work for you? |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Oct 27 2009 19:47 (UTC) |
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Hi all, I'm back. Sorry I left. Lots of reasons; my computer had problems, I left town for a bit, and ... Well I've not been doing too well, and it's hard to post when you're hunkered down. Yeah, I know. That's when I need most to post. What was that promise I made to myself -- let others help me? Water was going fine until a couple of days ago, and suddenly I'm not doing so well. When it's hot, I drink lots of ice water, anyway. But now it's cold, and room-temp water doesn't do it for me. I'm working on the problem. According to my scale, I've lost 2 pounds. Nothing compared to what I need to lose to be healthy, but a start. No, don't crow too much for me -- I can vary as much as 5 pounds one day to the next. But I'm holding on to it for encouragement. And yes, Donna ... Facebook is such a time sink! |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Sep 11 2009 17:00 (UTC) |
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Thanks for the shout out, Margie. The back is doing better. Actually, it's my pelvic saddle that's haywire. That in turn puts the legs, feet, upper back and neck out of kilter - which means lots of pain when I do normal stuff, let alone exercise. Still, I do what I can. Fell in the shower beginning of this week, so took 3 days off during the worst of the stiffness. Since I was already scheduled for PT, we simply shifted the focus. The worst of the fall affected -- of course -- the pelvic saddle. It's more in alignment now, and I've gone back to exercising. A friend reminded me of an interesting factoid. It's all about choices. Each time we eat, we have a choice about what we will eat. Each time we contemplate exercising, we have the choice - do it/don't do it. Past choices are made. But the next choice is still waiting. How will you choose? That thought kept me from buying soft pretzels, yesterday. About water: Be careful not to drink too much. It screws up all the electrolites, not just salt, if you drink too much. "Too much" is a lot more than we think, though. I've upped my intake; my goal is now to drink between 75-100 oz per day. I'm still stuck at about 64, but I'll take it one day at a time. |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Sep 06 2009 14:48 (UTC) |
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Sunday check-in: Doing great on the water challenge, drinking at least 70 oz of water per day, sometimes getting in much more. My kidneys and bladder are beginning to accommodate it. Less well on the exercising. My PT is urging me NOT to push through pain, the way I usually do, so I can't do more than about 15 minutes per session. I'm getting disscouraged and VERY SICK OF PAIN! Weight isn't budging. I'm fluctuating 1-2 pounds arond my starting point. These are the times when it gets very hard, and it seems so much easier to just give up! But I won't. I just have to hunker down and geturdone. |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Aug 30 2009 16:13 (UTC) |
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Sunday check in Well, so-so. Got at least 64 oz of water in every day except Thursday, which was a strange day around here. Did my Wii daily like clockwork until - yep, you guessed it - Thursday. Or actually, I did exercise on Thurs, and after I finished Wii fit, I played a game of bowling and then 3 games of tennis. The last tennis game I reached for a ball (which I then hit out of the lines) and twisted my back. No exercise for me since then. I think I can do the yoga today - I'm going to give it a try, anyway. Haven't lost any weight, but haven't gained any either, and I'm not as worried about losing as I am about getting the stuff scheduled. Did fine with the regular meals. I think that's getting more and more ingrained. Next? |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Aug 27 2009 13:55 (UTC) |
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Donna, thank goodness there are no cancer cells! But for the rest ... I'm so sorry. How awful! But your spirit is exactly right, which is going to go a long way to making this better and keeping you sane throughout. Hang in there! If you have pockets, things with seeds are not your friend. Ditto nuts. But I assume your docs have gone over diet with you, and I'd by all means follow their advice, not mine! I wonder if all the water you will be drinking will help? |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Aug 24 2009 20:50 (UTC) |
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Margie, you are exactly right: It it much easier to regain than to lose. The body is designed to save calories in times of famine. Insulin does more than merely help with sugar transfusions to the cells; it is also the storage hormone. The brain gets the first bits of energy, then the liver, since it supplies the brain. Then heart, then other muscles. But all of those can only store so much. The rest is stored as fat, and insulin is the method of storage. The last place is the visceral cavity - the belly fat that is so dangerous. By the time you start storing belly fat, you're not using up the calories you consume. Ah, but the body is used to consuming those calories. That's "normal." Now, you go on a diet. Oops. Feels like famine to the body. The more drastic the calorie cut, the more like famine it will seem to the body. So insulin gets cracking on taking in every little bit of stray energy (calories) and packing it in the storage areas as fat -- and then the body shuts down. The metabolism literally slows, so that you use less energy to do the same actions. The LAST thing the body will do is let go of the reserves; those are for last-ditch need only. That's why exercise and evenly spaced meals are so important - they force the metabolism to stay up and reassure the body that the caloric difference isn't really a famine, after all. Without that, though, that old insulins will slurp up all the calories it can, and the body will slow down to let it happen -- and you gain a lot faster than you lost it. It's a great survival mechanism for a hunter-gatherer society which can't be sure when meals are coming, and expends a lot of energy getting what meals it can. Not so great for modern (indolent) life with mega grocery-stores. But in evolutionary terms, it's only been a second or so that the modern norm has been around. It'll take a while for the human body to adapt. Meanwhile, we come here and commiserate with one another. |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Aug 23 2009 18:58 (UTC) |
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Exercise. Definately. I forgot to add that as the other critical element that came out of the weight studies. I was concentrating on the water thingie. Well, ok. 64 oz water challenge accepted. Actually, I decided I was going to do a challenge of one, in any case, and started yesterday. I measured the ounces in my largest glasses, and determined that I need to have 4.5 of them a day to reach the 64-oz goal. Yesterday was done. I'm a bit behind today, and am catching up as we speak. I made eating 4-5 meals a day one of my promises to myself; I do my best to eat something every 4-5 hours. I've been doing this now for 6 weeks. It's still not automatic, but I do it every day and it's getting easier. For exercise, I'm doing the Wii Fit program. Which automatically monitors my progress. It helps that my husband is doing it, too. We're a tad competitive, you see. Margie, I agree that ambition is a good thing. And if jumping in works for you, go for it, girl! In my case, I always jump in head first, and then give up. I can't afford the failure -- I've got to have a win. So, water challenge accepted. Regular eating schedule challenge accepted. Exercise challenge accepted on my terms, which means gradual increase over time. I'll do reports on my progress on Sundays. Who's in? |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Aug 22 2009 18:28 (UTC) |
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Margie, I think you are too ambitious. It's good that you are. But I don't want to set myself up for failure. I need some wins right now. I got a pedometer, found that I'm doing roughly 6,000 steps per day, and that's with me doing a lot of puttering around the house. I want to get it up to 10K, but it's not something that's going to happen overnight. In fact, "they" say you should add on incrementally until you reach 10K. So, how about we word the challenges a bit more friendly-like: 1. For the next 2 weeks, monitor water consumption and steps. 2. For the next 3 weeks after that, add some increment to what you find in #1. Maybe add 8 ounces of water and 500 steps each week, but not more than the 10K/64-whatever ounces. 3. For the next 3 weeks after that, maintain level reached at #2 That's working on two things at once, which is awfully ambitious in itself. We could also hone one at a time. This is a discussion, not a decree. And no, tea/milk/coffee at al do NOT count towards the 64-or-whatever ounces of water per day. Plain water is actually magic. Tea and coffee both contain caffeine, a diuretic. Tannin, too is a diet-ambusher, and tea is high in tannin. Sodas et al are sugary and/or have the same caffeine as coffee, if not more. Per my doctor, it's 2 liters of WATER per day, in addition to whatever else you drink. That's roughly 64 ounces. The data for this, by the way, is from the recent full-scale studies of people who have managed to lose weight and keep it off for more than 2 years. What the scientists found was actually quite grim: Very few manage it. Losing weight is not a question of will power or character; it's a matter of biochemistry and the body hangs on to every pound. But, in with the discouraging news were 3 things that leaped out as common to everyone who did lose weight: 1. Don't skip breakfast. It really is the most important meal of the day. Coming after 8 hours of sleep, the breakfast signals to the body not to go into starvation mode. 2. Eat at least 3 meals per day - spread the daily calories throughout the day. Again, the goal is to keep the body from fearing starvation, which sends the body into starvation mode. In starvation mode, not only does the body not give up fat stores, but it creates more insulin in order to store even more! 3. Drink 2 liters of water per day. (I've not heard the explanation for this one, but I suspect it has something to do with the way the cells give up fat and the natural waste system of the body. I'm not a doctor, though.) Just in case anyone was interested in the detail. As you can see, I'm the curious type and do a lot of research into the things I spend time on.
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Aug 22 2009 14:40 (UTC) |
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I couldn't join in a fish challenge right now, but the water one interests me. Donna, how on earth do you drink 75-100 ounces in a day? The amount my doctor recommends is 2 liters (almost 2 quarts) which is "only" 64 oz. And I'm struggling with that. And I drink almost nothing BUT water. |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Aug 15 2009 22:43 (UTC) |
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It is SO frustrating to have pain hold you back from the exercise you know will help you lose weight, which in turn will help ease the pain! My hips flared up again this past week, and I've not been able to do the bowling and tennis on the Wii as I've done the past few weeks. I have continued with the unpacking, so there is at least some time where I'm sweating, so I'm getting cardio in. But man, I'm so very tired of the pain! Come on, Margie -- we gotta beat this, right? |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Aug 14 2009 15:56 (UTC) |
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Margie - I, too, am doubtful about $19.99 for a ball that you may or may not use, and which automatically subscribes you to a program of receiving more things in the future unless you remember to cancel. Sounds scammish, to me. Obviously, the biggest hurdle is your back, which won't be gone just because you buy another program. Once the back is better, you can jog, walk, play tennis ... anything that uses both arms and legs. And it doesn't cost you a penny. I can only speak for myself, of course, but my shelf is lined with DVDs of supposedly magical exercise routines that will make me look like Jane Fonda. I know better than to think that I will do those programs if I'm not willing to just walk around the block! As for the colonoscopy - I, too, urge you to just do it. It's such a preventable cancer, yet so deadly a one. You will feel as though they put you out because you will have no memory; but really, you never lose consciousness, you just lose sense of time and place. But by all means, make sure the doc knows about your sensitivity to sedating drugs. |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Aug 01 2009 18:37 (UTC) |
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Donna, where did you get 19K steps? All I've read says the average in the US is about 4-6K, and the goal for fitness is 10k. No wonder you are so hard on yourself! I'm not saying ice cream is guilt-free; I'm just saying once in a long while is hardly a dietary crime. Dairy, too, has its nutritional side. When you are eating well but not losing weight, it could be a metabolic "stuckness" (my doctor says that's a medical term. Husband got me a wii for Christmas, which just (finally) arrived last week. What a gas! I have a 1/2 hour routine I do. I start with two games of bowling to warm up. Then I do 4-6 games of tennis (depending on how long the games run. If we keep deucing and advantaging, it can be a long game ...) followed by another round of bowling to cool down. After that, I'm literally dripping sweat. So, while it may not be a major workout, it's plenty for me at my current level of fitness (that of someone aged 88!) Husband tried out the boxing, which he says was a workout for him. So that is in my future. Should be fun. [edited to change WII to wii - looked too much like world war 2!] |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Aug 01 2009 16:09 (UTC) |
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Original Post by kansasgal: I used to call it a day off. I even put that in my promises to myself. But I'm beginning to think that's the wrong way to look at it. Rather, there is no such thing as forbidden food. If you want an ice cream cone, go for it. One. Occasionally. If this is going to be a life-long way of eating, then forbidding myself things just won't work. Keeping to my calorie count will. If I have the ice cream cone, then dinner might be a salad high on vegies and low on meat. The day off, then, isn't so much a day off to eat whatever I like, but a day off from the relentless counting. On that day, if I go over my count, it won't kill me. And on some days, there just isn't time for the counting. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Jul 29 2009 19:07 (UTC) |
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Donna and Margie: Googling works for calorie expenditure, as well. There are also some estimates of things here on Calorie+. It works just like the food log -- you can find stuff in the CC+ database or you can add your own. |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Jul 29 2009 19:07 (UTC) |
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Donna and Margie: Googling works for calorie expenditure, as well. There are also some estimates of things here on Calorie+. It works just like the food log -- you can find stuff in the CC+ database or you can add your own. |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Jul 29 2009 19:02 (UTC) |
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What Alice said. You're sick, you need nutrition. Besides, that calculated burn on the meter is if you do NOTHING. Do you get up to go to the bathroom? Do you wave your arms around while you talk? Do you pace out of boredom and get back into bed? Anything you do beyond lie there and breathe is extra. I repeat: What Alice said. Get well! |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Jul 28 2009 21:22 (UTC) |
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Margie: Ice. Ice is your friend. If you don't have an ice pack ready in your freezer, a bag of frozen vegetables will do the trick (corn and peas are the best.) 20 minutes at a time, 3 times per day. You'll feel the difference right away. Alice: When I started here last time, I simply made sure I took in 500 calories less than I burned. So, I made my goal to take in 2000 calories, but burn 2500. With a BMR of 1850, that meant I had to work off 650 calories. Since my normal exercise routine worked off 350, and I got the other 300 just from living, it was relatively easy to do. And I lost 10 pounds in 6 weeks. I'll take it. How did I come up with the 500 difference for the goal? Thusly: A pound of weight is equal to 3500 calories. If I want to lose a pound per week, then 3500/7 is my daily expenditure, or 500 calories per day. As long as I eat 500 calories less than I burn, I will lose 1/7th of a pound per day, or 1 pound per week. That's 50 pounds per year -- again, I'll take it! In my case, my metabolism is absurdly efficient (i.e., slow) I don't get hungry, so I often skip meals, which is counterproductive. So now I'm concentrating on working my life into a schedule that calls for me to eat at least every 4-5 hours. Once that is a habit, I'll work on getting exercise in daily. Once that is a habit, then I'll start counting calories. But I'll do it slow. My metabolism got this way because of the many crash diets I've tried in the past. No more. Gee, it's good to be back! |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Jul 27 2009 19:55 (UTC) |
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I'm here. Was out of town for the weekend, but back now. Donna, Alice gave you good advice. Eating too little can be worse than eating too much; it tricks your body into slowing the metabolism. It's part of my problem. Hence the promise to myself that I will eat every 4-5 hours. So far, I'm keeping many of my promises. Working on the others. Right now I'm not worrying as much about calories or weight as I am about getting my life working around what I need to lose weight. Refusing to skip meals has really changed things, for example! But it's all part of making this a way of life, rather than a temporary diet. Keep up the good work! |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Jul 17 2009 19:07 (UTC) |
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Original Post by moonduster: Don't forget: Anything faster than 2 pounds per week is unhealthy and highly prone to weight regain. Other than that -- Congratulations! I'd be ecstatic to be 150 again! Good on ya! What?! Donna missing in action? Say it isn't so! She's Cheerleader in Chief, isn't she? Donna -- come back. |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Jul 17 2009 16:36 (UTC) |
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Hi all, I'm back. To new arrivals since my hiatus: Welcome! I look forward to getting to know you here. To my old friends: Hi! How're y'all doing? My hiatus was not intended, but a product of depression coupled with a lot of just not being with the program. I'm starting anew - heavier than when I started 18 months ago, but starting anew all the same. I posted to my journal much more eloquently than I can here. Can I come home? |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Mar 07 2009 00:27 (UTC) |
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| Motivation | Let's Geturdone- over 50 + | Mar 07 2009 00:21 (UTC) |
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I'm just so ... dispirited. I have tears in my eyes right now. A little over a year ago, I came to CalorieCount all prepared to really lose weight for the last time in my life. No gimmicks, no fads; just hard work and healthy nutrition. I set a goal of 30 pounds in a year (from 220 to 190). Well under one pound per week, so definitely acheivable. And at 15% of my weight, it would give me the health benefits right at the start. Now, a year later I have a serious sugar addiction. I weigh 235. My hips and back hurt so much I can't exercise. Stress levels are higher than I've had since my dad died and I became responsible for my ailing mom. (Hmmm, the reason for the sugar addiction, perhaps?) Guys, I need some serious help! Guys, I really help! |
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