Posts by missmichelle

I feel it's up to the parent to decide how to discipline their child BUT make sure you're not using antibacterial soaps that include triclosan. They've just begun the effects it has studying it but so far it doesn't look too great- some research has indicated that triclosan can mimic hormones and do really frigged up things to you, so ingesting even a little is probably not a good idea. So far they've done the study only on frogs, but there's a pretty good chance it effect humans too since the way the hormones are used in both organisms.  And not even trace amounts are okay, "the study found that as little as one-millionth of a gram per litre of triclosan interferes with thyroid hormones and their ability to direct the genes responsible for frog metamorphosis." ((btw this stuff is sometimes in toothpaste too, ick))

note- edited for tired typing (the first version was less lucid) 

I understand what you're saying about girls who are "anorexic for a week" but many of these posters are complaining about girls who, they admit, look sickly and skeletal.  If they look that way, are honestly drastically underweight, and keep posting threads about how they haven't menstruated in months I find it hard to believe that it's a harmless bid for attention.

I think perhaps we're talking about different situations, with different sorts of girls.  Either way I take the general inclination to want to be anorexic and to want people to think that they are mentally ill is a negative sign, even if they aren't successfully hurting themselves.  If they're not crazy then the culture in which they live must be. 

These would be the other issues you referred to, and was exactly what I was talking about, if they try and do it for a week to be cool, that's messed up.  If they actually starve themselves to this point for compliments, that sounds like an eating disorder to me-- though perhaps not anorexia (because they do not exhibit the psychological or sociological symptoms associated with it)  still it seems clear there is something disordered about their self perception and their eating habits if they're intentionally causing themselves harm.

Uh, I understand that eating disorders are a very, very serious thing.  And so do all of you I'm sure.  Not eating does horrible things to your body, and to your mind, and with all of the obsessing and self loathing that must be attached to such a life style must be unbearable.  I've seen the pictures too, and it's a scary thing, especially since the people are not deprived by circumstance, they do it to themselves. 

I'm somewhat surprised then, that I seem to be the only person pondering these two questions: If obsessing over your weight, what you eat, hating the way you look, and starving yourself isn't a "genuine" eating disorder, just a cry for attention, then what is "genuine" anorexia and how is it more harmful?  And also, if these girls are willing to do this to themselves, genuinely starve themselves in this hurtful and hateful way simply for the validation, attention or pity of strangers, just how is this normal or healthy?  It's not "mental illness"? 

These girls are intentionally hurting themselves-- some will die, some will never have children, some will lose massive amounts of bone, it might not be "real" anorexia but I promise it will have real consequences, and they're doing this so that some stranger on the web will tell them they're "too skinny". 
And somehow this wins them your scorn because they're not genuinely troubled.  If they're willing to do this to themselves, to me, this is a sign that something is massively wrong, maybe with them or maybe with a culture that has lead to their proliferation.  

You may disagree, but I think that a willingness, or in this case and eagerness, to do oneself harm is a sign of some kind of disorder, I especially if they're willing to do it for the validation of strangers.

that's pretty crazy.  And wrong, very, very wrong.  People who have gastric bypass have to be very, very, careful about what they eat.  My ex's mom had it and she had to make every bite count, cheeseburger, please, more like liquefied protein with vitamin supplements.   If she didn't get the perfect amount of everything her hair would fall out.  The good news  is that that diet is so ridiculous that it would be hard for anyone to stick to it for long enough to kill themselves. 

No weigh in this week, though I was around 115 when I left.  My boyfriend doesn't have a scale though, which at this point is a good thing.  I've got about ten days to lose 3 pounds, probably four at this point.  I've eaten so much food in the past  days, around 2000+ every day, really,really bad.  But I've been exercising for a couple hours every day, burning 600-900 calories (according to the machines) so hopefully that evened things out a little bit. At least enough to not gain more than a pound I hope. I've got to do much, much better for the rest of this week and for next if I want to get down in time for the 29th.  The good news is that in as little as three days, all of this eating and exercising has started toning my muscles.

Man, today is not a good diet day.  Tuesdays are my earliest days, so I didn't get to the gym and I feel all gross because of it.  I'm also retaining water (I hope) for some reason, and yet again my pants don't fit!  Just when they were starting to loosen!  It doesn't seem like I've gained actual weight though, doesn't make any sense-- maybe my thighs inflate?

I'm also pretty bummed that I've been using the wrong program to tone my thighs (the weight loss setting on the elliptical doesn't do inner thighs, as i discovered Monday-- that's my trouble zone too) 

Overall don't feel like I'm doing enough.  I feel like I ought to be eating pocket lint and running for hours to lose weight, this feels normal and I get paranoid and count my calories repeatedly because I don't feel hungry like I ought to if I'm "dieting".  This fat, bloated feeling isn't helping at all, it feels like someone injected crisco into to my thighs and stomach.  It might be salt-- I eat a ton of salt, salted, but that's not something I can change, my all time high blood pressure was 90/60 so I'm pretty sure I need the sodium to keep my blood pumping.

I don't get this, I'm eating right, exercising and losing weight, so everything should be wonderful.  But I feel gross and look exactly the same!  Bah! I've lost about 14 pounds since January-- 5-7 on this site and I look exactly as I did before!  I took pictures, I compared them, nothing has changed.