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| Vegetarian | shut them up! | May 06 2008 14:28 (UTC) |
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Emie, ask them this, "Do you have pets and if so would you eat them? If not, then why would you eat other animals?" |
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| Vegetarian | What type of -tarian or -egan are you? | Mar 10 2008 15:34 (UTC) |
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I’m a strict (as possible) vegan. I used to be vegetarian, then changed to vegan when I couldn’t ignore anymore that they torture and kill animals who give milk, eggs, or wool as they do the ones they torture and kill for their meat/fur/etc. Then when the animals can’t give any more they’re usually killed. I say I’m “strict (as possible) because I know there’s no way I’m going to be able to keep every bit of animal matter out of my food. It’s so well hidden many times. It’s just like carnivores can’t help eating larvae or feces that gets into processed foods by mistake. Unfortunately, the meat and dairy in processed foods we vegans eat isn’t usually by mistake. BUT, even though I don’t like it, and I read labels very carefully to weed out products with unwanted ingredients , I don’t get too upset or too paranoid about it. I realize it’s just a fact of life. I try to “vote” with my dollars though and don’t buy anything I know or strongly suspect has meat or dairy in it, OR if I know that the company also sells meat and dairy products. That’s even harder to know but when I do I find alternates. Speaking about foods containing meat and/or dairy – I find it funny (and sad) when a waitress will tell me a dish I ask about has “only a little milk, cheese, or egg in it.” I want to tell them, “That’s like saying (to a carnivore) that their food only has a little poop or pee in it.” But I don’t…usually.  |
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| Vegetarian | Where is the love? | Mar 09 2008 15:30 (UTC) |
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| kiki82, I know how you feel! My best friend gave me a lot of grief when I became vegetarian, telling me it was unhealthy and that I’d never get enough protein, or at least the right kind of protein. Sigh! I wonder how long that old “but where do you get your protein” thing will go away? Anyway, she got over it, stopped bugging me about it, and even started to make vegetarian dishes just for me at dinners and parties. Then, when I told her one day I’d decided to go vegan, she just looked at me and said, “Whatever!” That hurt. But guess what, she got over me being vegan too and doesn’t preach to me anymore. When we go out to eat she looks for vegan foods on the menu for me. She doesn’t have to do that, but that’s nice of her. So what I’m saying is just give it time. And another tip: when we’re become a new vegetarian or vegan, some of us get too excited about it and want to talk about it too much. It’s natural to do that, especially with your good friends and family. You want to share your joy, but it ends up making things worse. They need time to adjust. So give it time. Lastly, you’ll always be “the different one,” even when they’ve accepted your way of eating. You’ll have to find a way to adjust to that too. Don’t worry, it’ll all work out. |
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| Vegetarian | Resources and Information for New Vegetarians/Vegans | Mar 06 2008 14:43 (UTC) |
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| Some of my favorite websites: http://www.wvda.org/calcs/fcals.htm Calorie calculator for females (calories you should take in to maintain or lose weight. They also have a calculator for men) http://www.carb-counter.org/ Carb Counter online. http://www.diet-blog.com/ Diet Blog. http://www.sustainabletable.org/ Sustainable Table was created in 2003 by the nonprofit organization GRACE to help consumers understand the problems with our food supply and offer viable solutions and alternatives. Rather than be overwhelmed by the problems created by our industrial agricultural system, Sustainable Table celebrates the joy of food and eating. Lots of recipes, cookbook reviews, teachers’ resources, “Sustainable Dictionary,” free newsletter, and forum. Lots more. Great website. http://www.sustainabletable.org/blog/ Their blog with the latest news about food and eating healthy. http://www.veganfitness.net Good forum for vegans staying fit through diet and exercise. http://www.tastebetter.com Lots of vegan recipes. Also check out Jason’s videos (The Eazy Vegan) showing him preparing tasty dishes and his views on various subjects.) http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/ Fat Free Vegan – lots of healthy recipes, plus a discussion board. http://www.lime.com/tv Lime TV – “Healthy living with a twist.” |
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| Vegetarian | Resources and Information for New Vegetarians/Vegans | Feb 24 2008 03:07 (UTC) |
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| I love Dino Sarma's cookbook, "Alternative Vegan." His recipes are easy, fun, and creative, plus he shows you how to create your own recipes using ingredients you have around the house. Vegetarians as well as vegans would enjoy using this book. Amazon.com carries it: http://tinyurl.com/2kt578 | |||
| Vegetarian | Benifits of going "veggie"? (How does my sample menu look?) | Feb 23 2008 14:37 (UTC) |
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Hooray for you, Zebulancherry! You're full steam ahead. Reminds me of when I first went vegetarian, then the same when I went vegan. It's amazing how much better I you feel doing this. You'll also discover so many new taste treats, so yes, it's exciting! A quick thought: If you ever start getting second thoughts because of the higher costs of vegetarian/vegan ingredients, keep reminding yourself how much money you're saving not buying meat, chips, candy, and all those other unhealthy foods.
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| Vegetarian | Suprise...It's NOT vegetarian! | Feb 22 2008 21:31 (UTC) |
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| I remember how surprised I was when I learned that plain old onion soup usually has a beef base! Geesh! | |||
| Vegetarian | Here I go, wish me luck! | Feb 22 2008 21:27 (UTC) |
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Hey, I did the same thing (way too often the first time I because vegetarian, ) but you know it's not that bad to pick up a few packaged vegetarian or vegan things, at least to start off and while you're learning. Just remember to still eat a wide variety of fresh fruits, veggies, beans, and grains and you'll be fine. At least most of those don't have fine print. Ok, they're starting to put labels on them too these days. Oh my! I look at it this way, buying some prepacked vegetarian/vegan foods gives your eyes a good workout trying to read all that teeny-tiny fine print, and you get lots of exercise bending down to read it. You can always tell a vegetarian or vegan by that squinty, squatty, baffled-looking stance, lol!
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| Vegetarian | going vegan and fieldtrip | Feb 22 2008 21:08 (UTC) |
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Hooray, hooray for you thinking of going vegan! Eating out can be fairly easy depending on where you live and if you get to pick the places where you'll be eating. All the other suggestions made here are great, so look for those. If you like mushrooms, my suggestion is look for portobella sandwiches. You see them quite often, even here in our small Southern rural area. They're heavenly! Mmmm! There's also baked potatoes, just make sure they don't put butter, bacon, sour cream, or cheese on it. It's wonderful just by itself with a little pepper. I also order baked sweet potatoes when I can. They're so good and good for you. They've come a LONG way in offering vegan fare at restaurants, even though they have a long way to go. However look at how it used to be just for vegetarians. You never saw vegetarian dishes offered at restaurants and now you do all the time. They even sell packaged vegetarian foods in grocery stores, even some vegan. Of course lots of them have too many preservatives and other bad for you things, but things are looking up all around. Hope this helps. |
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| Vegetarian | Damn those animal abusers!!! | Feb 22 2008 20:55 (UTC) |
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Oh yes, I sure did. I finally couldn't watch any more of those videos. Still can't. It's hard enough just to read about animal abuse much less watch it happening. My advice is to read up on it to learn WHY being vegan helps the animals and to keep aware of what's going on, but read in small bits and not too often or you'll go insane....really. But it IS important to know so you can tell others when they ask, and so that it keeps you motivated to stay vegan even when it's not easy. It gets much easier by the way. You give up some things but find new taste treats. Plus sometimes people get in your face about it, both vegans and non-vegans, but that's life and happens anyway. And don't expect to learn everything right away about what's the right way to eat vegan. It's different for everyone. You'll find your favorite foods as you go along, and you'll learn what's vegan and what's not. It takes time but it's worth it, and the journey is a hoot in itself! I mean, haven't you already met some fantastic people here already? |
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| Vegetarian | Why do they do such terrible things to the animals? | Feb 22 2008 15:54 (UTC) |
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Hi Nenewa, Everyone here has already answered your question as well as I could. I just wanted to add my thoughts and to say good for you for not only wanting to go vegan but being smart enough to study it first. And as you learn more about how animals are tortured for the mere "pleasure" people get from not only eating them but from wearing their flesh and fur, adding them to cosmetics and other non-essential things, etc., you'll probably end up vegan for life! Anyway, best wishes. You're doing fine so far. |
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| Vegetarian | New vegan on the block | Feb 22 2008 15:22 (UTC) |
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Original Post by lunamagae:
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| Vegetarian | Benifits of going "veggie"? (How does my sample menu look?) | Feb 22 2008 11:20 (UTC) |
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Original Post by coldthindream: Unfortunately, doctors don't always know very much about nutrition. We tend to think they're little gods walking around and know everything, but that's not the case. You can go to another doctor, who is better informed, and he will give you a completely different answer about eating meat. That happened to me when my husband was in the hospital recently with kidney stones. The doctor told him to cut his meat intake by half because the uric acid in meat was causing his type of kidney stones. When the doctor found out I was vegan, she said that's great, she wished everyone would eat vegan. I can see you point though on making yourself sick by eating the wrong way. When I first started eating vegetarian, I ate all the wrong things; too many packaged vegetarian foods, too many carbs, not enough fresh fruits and vegetables and not enough variety either. I had to learn a whole new way of eating healthy. So I went back to eating meat for a year and really made myself sick! I gained a ton of weight and got diabetes. That may have happened anyway, but fortunately I studied up on how to go vegetarian (and ultimately vegan) the proper way. I'm going on 66 years old and I've lost over 50 pounds, have more energy, and am healthier than my 55 year old husband. He's still eating meat but far less and is getting healthier every day. So that's my story, just so you can see another perspective, coldthindream. I'm certainly not trying to sway you, just give you more information on eating vegetarian or vegan. |
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| Vegetarian | Non vegan spouse? | Feb 22 2008 11:04 (UTC) |
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Well said, habgirl! I couldn't have put things better myself. As far as cooking meat for my husband though, I still do, but only because I've only been vegan for a short time and he's still adjusting. It's not easy when your partner all of a sudden changes drastically. He's always, always given me my space and supported me in everything except for being on the 6 o'clock news. I'm lucky to have such an understanding partner who respects my feelings, so I don't want to make him uncomfortable any more than I have to. There will come a time though, soon probably, where I won't be cooking meat for him. It's getting too much for me to handle "meat" knowing it's "cow" not "beef" and "pig" not "pork" for heavens sakes, and all the suffereing involved. Well, we'll tackle that issue when it's time. I don't see too much of a problem with it. Since we both cook, why can't we cook for ourselves sometimes and let the other one cook what they want to eat? Why do we have to feed the other one all the time when we cook? It'll work out. Peace and Love to you all,
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| Vegetarian | New vegan on the block | Feb 22 2008 10:39 (UTC) |
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Original Post by lunamagae: What website on vegan friendly liquor was that lunamagae? I didn't see it. Anyway, thanks much for the welcome. Yes, I sure know how heated things can get about talking about vegetarianism and veganism, or any "isms" are far as food goes. That's ok for me though. It takes all sorts of thinking to make this world interesting. I may joke around sometimes, but I'm very serious about being vegan and not harming animals, which is my main reason for being vegan. But I don't try to force anyone to my way of thinking (except by example and sometimes pointing things out, like would you eat your pet? so why eat other animals...oops, sorry.) |
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| Vegetarian | New vegan on the block | Feb 22 2008 10:23 (UTC) |
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Yes, feanor, I agree about all the great recipes and menu ideas, here plus weight loss/fitness helps ,and support. I don't think of you omnivores or even carnivores, as polluting our space on the vegetarian forum though. We can all live in peas...um, sorry.... peace.  |
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| Vegetarian | New vegan on the block | Feb 21 2008 23:08 (UTC) |
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| Thanks for the warm welcome, Lexabear. This seems to be a friendly but slightly funky group. Just my kind of people. I may be ooold, but I'm young at heart! |
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| Vegetarian | New vegan on the block | Feb 21 2008 23:03 (UTC) |
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| I read that most of the wine and beer from the US don't use any filters derived from animals (like bone.) It's the smaller companies, or ones in other countries, that might do this. | |||
| Motivation | How do i get a ticker? | Feb 21 2008 03:00 (UTC) |
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| Jella, I use Ticker Factory http://www.tickerfactory.com which I like a lot. I also had trouble cutting and pasting the code into my journal here, but I played around and found that I could just highlight the graphic, after I created my ticker on Ticker Factory, then just pasted it into a journal I created here, and titled it My Progress Chart. A neat thing about it too is that each time I update my weight loss on Tickor Factory's website, it automatically changes in the graph in my journal here! Hope this helps. | |||
| Vegetarian | Here I go, wish me luck! | Feb 21 2008 02:37 (UTC) |
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| Good for you Bones! I know you’ll feel so much better in a very short time, not only physically but emotionally and mentally. I know that’s what happened with me, although I had to make 2 tries at becoming vegetarian. I succeeded the second time, then later I went vegan (which I still am after a year and loving it.) At the beginning, when I went vegetarian, I depended too much on all the pre-packaged vegetarian stuff out there. And take it from me, it’s possible to be a junk food junky and still be vegetarian or vegan! So watch out for that. I feel so much better now eating mostly fresh fruits, vegetables, tempeh, tofu (ok, and some soy ice cream, ha ha,) and actually getting in the kitchen to whip up my own dishes. So be patient with yourself, don’t expect to be perfect, and don't give up. Just do your best and be proud of what you’re doing. |
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I'd love everyone to eat vegan of course, for the animals' sake, but we're all on our own path in this world and learn/wake up in our own time if we're meant to be a certain way. It took me 60 years to wake up and go vegetarian and another 1 to become vegan, so there you go. 
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