Posts by devotchka613

Original Post by wifi92:

Vegetarians have chosen a mythical "healthy" lifestyle.  Our society is based on Judeo-Christian principles, one which is personal liberty.  One can be a veggie person, and that's ok, one can be more realistic and eat anything animal God compassionately gives us to eat. 

It's not any issue of morality, or rightness.  If one uses a blue towel vs. a green towel after a shower, it's their choice.  It's a personal taste and/or preference issue, not one of morally right.  The blue towel user isn't "more right" than the green towel user, just different.

I tried to bite my tongue on this, I don't mean to start anything, but i totally disagree with this.  It IS about morals for a lot of veg*ns. 

lol i'm sorry!

Original Post by rosieblue:

Original Post by devotchka613:

Thanks darklylinky and others who said the same thing, now I am going to feel crappy all day.  I'm 5'1.5 and range between size 6-8 depending on the brand i guess.  My weight has been fluctuating between 118-120 the past couple week and am trying to lose.  Do you think it is FAT though?  honestly people...

Oh please!  Are you really going to let the opinions of some people on a forum and a celebrity website influence your emotions?  If so, you deserve to feel like crap.

Ok you know what?  I wasn't referring to the celebrity site.  And I was half joking.  I wasn't whining and I hope you weren't referring to me in your journal entry.  Sorry, I didn't realize I wasn't allowed to vent.  First time I've written a post in a while.  Thanks.  You have a great weekend!

I'm in!  I would just be happy losing 15 by August!  But this would be even better!  5'1.5", CW 123 GW by May 25th 113

Ok but let us know if you try any milks.  I think you would really like some of the soy milk brands listed.  I could drink glasses of em myself.  Although i don't but only because i have a very limited amount of calories!

Original Post by zhowe:

woohoo! you got the fight going here!

first, if god didn't want us to eat all those innocent cows, why did he fill them with meat?

But more importantly to you, perhaps you are craving meat because you are lacking a nutrient it provides?  not enough protein?  or something more specific...red meat is high in iron?  perhaps fill the void and the meat cravings go away?

 

Uh, in case you weren't aware, meat is muscle.  And that means that we, humans, are made of meat too.  Come on now.  Don't be ridiculous.  If you are so proud of eating innocent animals and want to preach about some stupid insensitive **** then stay out of the veg forum. 

Original Post by santana90:

Original Post by deezers:

Original Post by laceypierson:

Actually, most people are vegetarian because they don't believe that animals should be killed for us to either EAT or USE in any products we buy. Gelatin is made by killing animals... therefore, it is not consistent with what most vegetarians consider vegetarianism to be. Just because you don't want to eat meat, but are okay with eating other sloughter-by products, doesn't mean your the type of vegetarian that these people are trying to be.

 I have to agree totally with this - in my opinion, if you are aware of gelatin, what it is, and how it is made, and you choose to consume it anyway, you might as well sit down to a bloody slab of cow's ass! So if your choice to be vegetarian was made for ethical reasons, gelatin cannot be a part of that (nor can rennet).

I see 'by-products' as being things like milk, cheese, eggs, honey etc. Things that do not (directly) cause the death of the animal (but in the bigger picture, do cause death. After a miserable life...)

Products derived from a slaughtered animal for our consumption are just like meat (only even MORE disgusting - boiled pig's trotter, anyone?? Calf's stomach lining?? Mmmmm).

 I see your point. But there are different types of vegetarians that do what they do for different reasons. Me- I just dont eat MEAT (ACTUAL MEAT)...not for ethics, not for morals or religion...but soley for health because I think its healthier to not consume meat. (And Im not saying that consuming those other things are healthy- so dont start on that please). Honestly, I would start on about how animals were put here to be eaten, but that would just start a whole other debate which Im not in the mood for. So for the purpose of peace, Ill just leave it as I dont eat meat for health reasons. Nothing else.

And I must stress that Im NOT saying anyone else here or anywhere must have my same opinion on why they do or dont eat meat and its by-products or whatever. I was simply pointing out the terms used. That vegetarians simply dont eat meat....vegans dont eat meat or eat/use their by-products.

 Look... most TRUE vegetarians don't eat the by-products of dead animals.  If YOU don't eat the actual meat then really it is pointless for you to even be in this thread (because you don't consider gelatin, rennet, etc to be non-vegetarian for you, therefore, none of this thread applies to you).  There was no reason for you to say:

"Its sorta bothering me tha you guys keep saying that these foods and products you all are listing "arent vegetarian". Yes they are. They just arent VEGAN!"

Because for the people who ARE vegetarians (and not vegans), especially for the animals, most if not all of the products we have named are NOT vegetarian in their book and the knowledge of animal by-products in this thread is helpful to THEM.

I know i probably didn't explain all this right, i'm tired.  Anyway, just had to say it. 

Oh and SULFYR, I believe it is only American McMurders that have the cow extract in their fries.  I know the ones in the Middle East do not and apparently they don't in Canada, I don't think they taint the fries in the UK, either.

My fiance is pretty supportive for the most part.  He will listen to me vent and stuff but he gets upset sometimes and says i obsess too much and says he loves me and thinks i look great no matter what i weigh.  He knows i'm super sensitive too so he doesn't say much other than that!  But like if i say i lost a pound or something he will say "good job!".  LOL

It won't be hard to maintain.  You can get protein from legumes, nuts, soy products, all kinds of things.  Did you have any questions?

I second most of these... But here are some that may have not been mentioned...

Wes Craven

Jamie Kennedy

Jon Heder

How much should i be eating?? All the calculators tell me like 1300ish...

I have both but prefer Myspace... mostly love them because, as stated above, it helps to keep in touch with people.  I am somewhere with no family or friends around (well, no "real friends") and myspace and facebook help a lot when i am able to access the sites.

Large quantities of potatoes (mostly fries!) and rice

Too many cookies

Too many doritos

Alcohol!

Ok but gelatin IS part dead animal carcass.

Also, just wanted to make sure all the vegetarians know about rennet.  I don't have time to get into it, google it if you want.  But, I was a lacto-ovo vegetarian for 12 years before I even knew about rennet.  I am so ashamed, and would have been a vegan a lot sooner if i had found out sooner.  Anyway, the minute I found out about rennet (little over 2 years ago)I became vegan, on the spot.  I can't believe it took 12 years.  I should have become one because of the horrors of the dairy/egg industry alone but i wasn't educated enough on that, either.  

Anywhere on the continent of Africa... I love it!  Safari then beach... so maybe South Africa and Mozambique or Kenya/Tanzania (We are doing that this year but not for a honeymoon).