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Weight Gain I have an immense amount of respect for all of you. Dec 15 2008
18:50 (UTC)
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It's a day when I've been brutally hard on myself, causing me to question my intentions - so this came like a ray of sunshine through a storm cloud. Thank you.

Weight Gain no weighing Dec 15 2008
18:48 (UTC)

Being blind weighed is a good idea. I made the mistake of weighing myself this morning - the first time in a long time. And while the gain is barely non-existant (less than 3 pounds), I still crumpled to the floor and cried for over an hour, and XXXX (removed by moderators). I can only imagine what I would have done if the weight gain was significantly higher.

I suggest being blind weighed, or at least having someone there to support you if you decide that you do want to know the number.



Edited Dec 15 2008 20:09 by hkellick
Reason: Removed as the post describes self-harm which might negatively effect the community
Health & Support You know you're a recovering anorexic when... Nov 11 2008
18:17 (UTC)
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Theo, that made me laugh out loud (literally)!

 

- You swear to gain 10 pounds by beach season to look good in a bikini.

- The only ribs you want to see are some on your plate (vegan ones, in my case!)

Weight Gain Official High-Cal Foods List Nov 07 2008
13:02 (UTC)
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I mentioned this in another thread, but thought that I would go ahead and post it here since it qualifies!

Food For Life

Food For Life is a company that puts out wonderful carbohydrate products such as bread, tortillas, english muffins, pasta, cereals, etc. They even have hamburger and hot dog buns, and I believe they make bagels. I have experiences with, specifically, their Ezekiel 4:9 products. They are sprouted and cooked at very low temperatures to help preserve precious enzymes, so they are insanely healthy and packed with vitamins and nutrients. I think it should be a real staple in any recovering anoretic's diet because they are higher in calories than most breads and bread products as well. I also feel better knowing that since it is sprouted, it doesn't digest like other breads, but, instead, digests as a vegetable, which makes it easier for me to eat without guilt. It's been an incredible blessing in my experience.

Weight Gain what food are you scared of? Nov 07 2008
12:51 (UTC)
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Some of my fear foods:

- Nuts, which I still have not brought back. If there is something with nuts in it, I don't care how few, I just still cannot bring myself to eat it.

- Nut Butters. I have managed to bring back No-Salt-Added Natural Peanut Butter, but I have to have my mom ration it out to me, and then hide the jar, because it is not only a fear food, but a "trigger" if I eat too much of it. Being vegan, it is a prime source of protein, which I need, and that is the real reason why I worked so hard to bring it back.

- Any kind of oil or dairy-free butter/margarines. I still avoid them.

- Grains in general. I cut out breads, crackers, cereals, pasta, rice, oatmeal, everything I considered to be a "grain-carb". I have managed to reintroduce a couple of healthy cereals (like puffed wheat), brown rice, and oatmeal, but I eat still struggle to eat them regularly. As far as bread is concerned, enriched white bread was the main culprit in my fear of breads, but after I cut it out, I cut out every other kind of bread. I've managed to bring back bread in the form of Ezekiel 4:9 products, which are sprouted and cooked at very low temperatures to help preserve precious enzymes. I think it should be a real staple in any recovering anoretic's diet because it's higher in calories than most breads as well, and can probably be considered one of those "high cal, low density foods". Not only is it insanely healthy, but I also feel better knowing that since it is sprouted, it doesn't digest like other breads, but, instead, digests as a vegetable, which makes it easier for me to eat without guilt. It's been an incredible blessing in my experience. **The only Ezekiel product I have yet to try as a reintroduction is their pasta, I still can't make myself eat pasta, even if it's sprouted.**

- Vegan mayo/sour cream/cream cheese. I still can't do them.

- Anything FRIED, especially potato chips. I initially cut them out because they started making me sick, although I had the really bad habit of sniffing potato chip bags after I cut them out until I got the insane idea that I wasn't losing weight because I was doing so, so I stopped doing that out of my irrational fear. To this day, I still will not touch anything friend. Of all of the foods I've blacklisted, I think this will be the hardest for me to get over, if I ever do.

- Soda or other drinks containing sugar (like juices and sweetened teas). Cutting all of this out did me really well in that I started drinking hot, herbal teas with wonderful benefits, but did me just as bad because I also developed a severe diet soda addiction, which I'm still trying to break. I still don't drink sugary drinks.

- Anything sweet that I considered to be an "indulgence" (candies, cakes, soy ice creams, pastries, etc), etc. etc. etc. I'm hoping that I can make a breakthrough with this on my birthday, which is the last day of November. For the first time in 8 years, I want to be able to have a slice of vegan birthday cake, complete with a scoop of soy mocha fudge ice cream (I've been eyeing it forever), but I'll admit that that's a lot to ask for at this point.

Weight Gain thank you everyone for today Nov 06 2008
20:13 (UTC)
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This forum has really helped me in a lot of ways as well :)

Gilly, what a fantastic idea to eat while reading posts!! I've never thought of doing that, I'll bet it makes it much easier!

Weight Gain Starting recovery process from anorexia... Nov 03 2008
19:44 (UTC)
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BAAAAAAAAAH, when my skeleton was out of the closet about my ED (pun intended), my parents went CRAZY. I live in the south, so they were trying to fatten me up on fried foods (which I had completely cut out) and sweet tea (which I had completely cut out). They pushed too hard and ended up scaring me out of even trying for a few months. I know now that I should have found my voice and told them, "Look, this is how it's going to be..." but I didn't have it in me, then. I've since told my mom that if I gain weight, I'm going to gain it eating healthy foods that nourish my body, not by pumping myself full of the junk food that helped lead me into the arms of my eating disorders to begin with. I also had to tell her that junk food triggers my bulimia, which pretty much sent the message home and she didn't push after that.

I know that my parents pretty much have the notion that I have to gain every pound back TONIGHT to insure that I don't drop dead tomorrow. I think a lot of people think that way when watching a loved one go through an ED. They're just scared for them. But just be honest with your parents and let them know that they will do more good in walking beside you instead of in front of you.

Good luck!

Weight Gain Vent!! Getting sick when I eat and only losing more weight :( Nov 03 2008
19:38 (UTC)

You ARE lucky to have free healthcare! Hopefully our new president will help get something started to help people out and I'm hoping I don't sound so naive in stating that! I looked over the websites and printed out the info. My mom's been looking over it; she hasn't said much about it, but I know better than to ask her what she's thinking because she's a deep thinker and it takes her a while to draw her conclusions. But hopefully something in it will work out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed anyway :)

Weight Gain Vent!! Getting sick when I eat and only losing more weight :( Oct 30 2008
18:03 (UTC)
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direwolf689: Thank you for the tips and your encouragement, I will definitely be trying these tonight. I have some Vicks in the medicine cabinet :) Thank you!

lalabanana: Thank you, too, for your tips and support. When I first started taking weight gain seriously, I started adding small things to my usual eating schedule, like chick peas to my nothing-but-raw-veggies salad, for example. I was doing okay at first with the small stuff, but it got to a point where I knew I had to start adding more and more things, and I started to think of all of the foods to come like peanut butter and bread and I started running scared more and more often when I thought of myself actually bringing back the foods I've blacklisted over the past 8 years. It still seems so impossible to me! My BMI right now is at the lowest it's ever been and I think that it does play a role in why I can't eat along with the stress. I am aware of refeeding syndrome, but I never studied it in depth, so thank you for that link! It shed a lot of light on the subject for me. I know that I should go to a doctor about this instead of just get on the internet and whine about it; I have been wanting to go see a professional for a long time, now, but I feel so guilty about asking to go because my mom is struggling to get by right now financially and I'm not even insured. But the link you posted might be able to help with that, so I'm going to go check it out right now! Thank you again :)

Weight Gain But Im not hungry! Oct 30 2008
17:28 (UTC)
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Trust me, you're not alone. *Hugs* I wish I knew how to get past it :(

Weight Gain Underweight but big tummy? Oct 30 2008
17:07 (UTC)
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I feel like a contradiction to in a different way; my stomach was the first to go when my ED got at it's worst point! I always had the impression that the limbs are the first thing to "disappear", but my stomach is so concave and disgusting, yet my thighs and upper arms are very thin, but not as emaciated looking as my stomach. What's even worse is that my the lower part of my legs and arms are just bone, so I look like Frankenstein's monster, being sewed into one being with different body parts! I look terribly disproportionate and I feel so ashamed because of it, I can't even bring myself to update my profile pictures :(

Sorry, this is probably no help to you, but I know how you feel :(

Health & Support You know you're a recovering anorexic when... Oct 29 2008
18:50 (UTC)
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You know you're a recovering anoretic when:

- your belt collection becomes obsolete!

- you celebrate because your thighs actually touch!

- you can retire the thermal undies you've been wearing year round!

- you don't have to use your electric blanket in 90 degree weather!

- you save your money that you used to spend on magazines with anoretic celebrities on the cover to buy FOOD!

- and, in honor of Halloween, you put the TREAT back into "Trick or Treat"!

Motivation Help. Before I go crazy and eat everything! Oct 03 2008
18:23 (UTC)
2

If you really want something warm to help fill you up, go with a hot herbal tea. You can sweeten it with Splenda (better yet, Stevia, a naturally sweet zero calorie herb) if you don't like it straight. Green tea and especially Yerba Mate tea have appetite suppressing qualities!

Health & Support I ate ice cream last night and.. Oct 03 2008
14:30 (UTC)
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Congratulations!! :):)

Health & Support Extreme lows and how to pull yourself out of them. Oct 03 2008
13:53 (UTC)
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I am SO sorry to hear about your cat; I lost my precious cat, Ezra Blue, just two weeks ago and it shook my world apart. It deepened my depression so much, I couldn't eat for days (which wasn't a good thing as I cannot afford to lose any more weight).

I'm not sure what to tell you to do, I guess because I am in the same boat and don't know what to do myself. I could suggest something, like a new hobby or something, but the truth of the matter is that sometimes, depression overshadows all things and nothing can conquer it or outshine it. If it's simply a bad case of the blues, it will pass over time as things settle down. But if you feel it's getting to the point where it's unable to be controlled, perhaps you should see a doctor.

I'm sorry, I suck at advice :(

Weight Gain I'm Liking This Weight Gain... Oct 03 2008
13:28 (UTC)
6

Thanks, I have...my mom often asks me if I'm ready and I have severe mood swings when she does. I try to control myself, I know she's only asking and not pushing, but I get defensive and I end up not eating at all sometimes because I feel so stressed. This eating disorder does things to me that I can't even explain. It turns me into someone that even I don't recognize sometimes.

Weight Gain Anorexia and Depression. Oct 03 2008
12:21 (UTC)

I've been struggling with anorexia/bulimia for 8 years and I, too, have suffered from depression. More often than not, you'll find that EDs and depression go hand in hand; one always causes the other.

My sister, too, takes Lexapro (for her social anxiety) and it hasn't made her gain any weight. She says it really works, too, and she's not addicted to it or anything. It's been recommended for me, but I have yet to start it. Perhaps you can ask your doctor about that, but express your concern about not wanting anything you may become dependent on!

You've come so far and you HAVE been doing well. This is just another bump in the road to what will hopefully be a full recovery for you. Remember that if you can do this well at defeating your eating disorder, you can do equally well at silencing your depression. Just keep working at it! I wish you all of the luck in the world.

Foods Natural peanut butter actually worse for you? Oct 02 2008
19:34 (UTC)
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Well, the way I see it is this: if you don't get your cancer from your natural peanut butter, you'll get it from something else!

Weight Gain I'm Liking This Weight Gain... Oct 02 2008
18:58 (UTC)
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I just wanted to say good job on your progress!! I've been suffering from anorexia and bulimia for 8 years. I'm still waiting to plan my first weight gain meal. I hope it comes soon.

Health & Support You know you're a recovering anorexic when... Oct 02 2008
18:24 (UTC)
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I'm trying to recover and this is the first time I've ever viewed my eating disorder in a humorous light with others struggling with the same thing as I am. Thank you for the uplifting post. I wish I were funny enough to think up a line to contribute, but I can't.

Fitness Bored with exercise, any ideas? Oct 02 2008
14:10 (UTC)
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Ughhhhhhh, exactly my problem!!

I ditched the treadmill, bought a pedometer, and started doing real walking; some days I go 3 miles up the mountain I live on, some days I jog in the park, some days I walk along the roads behind my house. It's actually better than the treadmill because I get all of the hills and stuff, which is more beneficial to building muscle.

As for strength training routines, I started mixing it up with a mixture of yoga/pilates. It's easy yet very, very, very rewarding as far as your body is concerned; not to mention you feel so good afterwards. I also bought a DVD that gives you a total workout through dancing, which I thought would be corny, but it's actually really fun and relaxing. Nothing like Richard Simmons.

And if you've got some money to spend, you might be interested in purchasing a Wii Fit? I have heard those things really help tone.

Hope this was a little help?

Vegetarian Fluffy Vegan Pancakes? Do they exist? Oct 02 2008
14:01 (UTC)

From the best I can recall, yup! Have you already tried them?

Vegetarian Fluffy Vegan Pancakes? Do they exist? Oct 01 2008
15:30 (UTC)
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Try looking on vegweb.com. That's one of the biggest vegan recipe sites on the web. I know there is one on there called "Whole Wheat Banana Pancakes". I cooked them last year (before I cut out like 90% of everything I ate) and they were so fluffy I thought I had died and gone to Heaven! There are tons of pancake recipes on there, too, so if whole wheat or banana isn't your thing, I'm sure there is something there that is!

Weight Gain Trying to gain again... and am serious this time! Oct 01 2008
15:07 (UTC)
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PS: Even if you did eat raw, you wouldn't have to eat vegan. You can eat raw dairy products like kefir and there are ways to make your own raw yogurts and stuff. You also make your own milks, very easy, just by grinding raw almonds/raw oats and water.

Anyway, if you're interested, you can check out this site and see if they have anything you might think can help:

www.goneraw.com

Just a suggestion.

Weight Gain Trying to gain again... and am serious this time! Oct 01 2008
15:02 (UTC)
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Hi there,

Good job on getting out of this hellish eating disorder mentality. I've been here 8 years (anoretic with bulimic tendencies) and still haven't gotten out.

I, too, am a clean eater. Have you ever considered trying to eat raw vegan? That diet is as clean and pure as you can get and the core of that diet is more than just raw fruits and veggies. It also focuses on raw nuts, seeds, etc. So it's a good diet if you're looking for healthy fats to incorporate back into your diet and the food is nothing but pure.

I changed over to this lifestyle when I was trying to gain weight last year and it really helped me. And I didn't feel like it was a disgusting weight gain. My problem was that I still did not have a healthy frame of mind, I still had that eating disorder mentality, and I ditched it for lettuce and grapefruits again.

I hope this can be some help to you. Good luck.

Hyl

Vegetarian Vegan roll call? Nov 30 2007
22:20 (UTC)
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I am a vegan. I became vegetarian when I was 12 years old and converted to veganism when I turned 15. I am really involved in animal right movements, too. I'm 21 now.

Oh, and I'm a raw vegan. Sometimes I will switch over and practice fruitarianism for a week or so before going back to eating vegetables.

I initially went vegetarian because I just couldn't stand to eat one more defenseless animal. I went vegan because I began researching the milk and egg industries. I'm struggling with eating disorders, which kind of influenced my decision to go from being a standard vegan to a raw vegan. Fruitarianism just sounded new and cool to try, but I can't switch permanently because I've got to have my carrots. :)

Hyl
Health & Support Couldn't help it. I hate EDs! Aug 20 2007
20:09 (UTC)
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Oh, honey, I'm so sorry. I understand what you are going through completely, I've been eating disordered for 7 years. Nobody in my family would even talk about it, they denied the fact that I was sick more than I did!

I know that you freaked because of the fried chips, fried foods are probably the biggest fear for us recovering, not only because it's just insane in calories and fat, but because it's so unhealthy for you, it doesn't matter who you are or what you weigh! Your mom should know not to try to feed you stuff like that, you need easy foods to get up to your goal weight. Not foods that are going to scare you. My mom was the SAME way when she finally came to admit I was sick. She tried to help me gain weight in all of the wrong ways, by BAKING ME COOKIES and trying to get me to eat double portions of everything in hopes I'd put on weight that way. Of course I wasn't going to eat them, they were very scary foods then and even are now!

IT WAS TOO MUCH TOO FAST. I had to go at my own pace. I think that's the main key to recovering. Go too fast and you are prone to relapse.

What I did was, after losing weight as a result of my mothers unhealthy take on my recovery, I eventually sat down with her and I worked out a meal plan that I was comfortable with. My list was very short, but I ate a little more of them each day and she learned not to offer me anything that I was afraid of because that only made me do without. Slowly, I was gaining weight and I at least felt like the foods I were putting in my body were good, even if I did always have a sense of panic and fear.

Just sit down with your mom, tell her your real goal is to gain some weight, that you are not the same person she still thinks you are are, and tell her you need her support in order to get better. And that support is not going to come in trying to make you eat more of the foods that you feared in the first place. Tell her you want to do it the healthy way with foods that are good for you.

If she works with you on this and stops trying to pressure you to eat things like fried chips, I bet your recovery will be easier on both of you.

I wish you the best of luck, Hyl
Fitness My exercise routine - too much? Aug 20 2007
19:57 (UTC)
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Thank you for posting the link to the article, it was a really big help to me. I didn't learn a lot about this during rehabilitation, although I knew that I sometimes took it to extreme, but I used to be so much worse about exercising, so I guess I feel like this is kind of like me slacking off. But I didn't think about the dangers being hidden. I thought it was physical and if anything was wrong, I'd feel it and as long as I felt okay, I was. I should have known better, though, because nothing is black or white with this.

Thanks again! Hyl
Health & Support On Healthy Weight Gain Aug 20 2007
18:32 (UTC)
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Hi there, friend.

First, I want to recommend you talk to your doctor about this.

Second, I want to offer you some personal knowledge about it. I have been eating disordered for 7 years (anoretic and bulimic) and I have not had my period for 4 years. Even when I was at a healthy weight, my period did not come back.

I do, however, have a friend who is recovering and we discussed this once. What it is is that your body is going through the process of healing and it's going to take time for your period to come back. At first, my friend didn't have her period even after she gained weight, but the more she worked at getting better, and the stronger and healthier she got, it started coming back. At first, it was very light, kind of like spot bleeding, for a day, maybe two days and then she wouldn't have it for a month, etc. It was very irregular for a while. But she kept through rehabilitation and it eventually worked it's way up to a normal period, lasting 3-7 days and it had a...how can I say it without feeling gross??...HEALTHY FLOW...?

But, just give it time and it should become normal the healthier you get. It's just your body readjusting to your comeback from this horrible disease.

Good luck to you! Hyl
Health & Support recovering from anorexia Aug 20 2007
18:23 (UTC)
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Going to college for journalism was always my dream and this eating disorder has me back from that, as well. It's really put a hold on my future, so I totally know what you mean about everyone you know living their lives at universities and stuff, I've dreamed of being there since I was in elementary school.

Hang in there, you'll get there. And so will I. Just keep fighting the fight.

1800 calories does seem like a lot, but I think it's reasonable and I don't think the weight gain would be that rapid. And if you find that it is, you can always slow yourself down and do as you said, build yourself up to it gradually, in order to gain it at a pace that you are comfortable with.
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