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Maintaining Maintaining 3 days out of 7 (adivce would be appriciated) Nov 24 2009
14:29 (UTC)
3

Hi! OK, so I was stuck at a plateau for ever and ever...probably not a physical one but I would have a small deficit during the week, aiming for 1500-1600 cal/day, but then when I would try to maintain over the weekend I would always end up going over my limits, effectively maintaining over the week.  What I've been doing for the past 3 weeks is going week to week.  I give myself 11,000 calories a week, which averages out to 1571 cal/day, a good level for me considering my weight and activity level.  On the days I have more willpower and aren't as hungry, I'll eat around 1300 or 1400 (which is usually Mon-Thurs), then the rest of the days when I am more likely to go out or cook nice meals with the fiance, I have around 1700-1900 calories.  It's worked really well for me; I've gone down steadily at almost 2lb/week.  I don't know if you have days you want/can eat less while studying for exams, but this might be a way to reconcile your schedule without taking a break from weight loss.

Good luck on exams!

Weight Loss My Christmas present to me is the new me: group weigh in Nov 20 2009
09:30 (UTC)
15

SW: 150? GW: 143 5'8 26 y.o.  

30 Oct: 148.2
6 Nov: 150
13 Nov (148.2): 148.6
20 Nov (147): 146
27 Nov (145.5):
4 Dec (144.5):
10 Dec (last day before I go home) (143):

Yay, I'm happy!  And I'm still on TTOM so I'm hoping maybe another half pound off over the next few days?  I'm weighing in on Thursday next week as Friday will be a lost cause after Thanksgiving, and am aiming to be under 145...good luck to everyone!

Weight Loss Oy! So frustrated! (Rant) Nov 14 2009
13:40 (UTC)
2

Well a couple of things, though I'm hardly an expert...

First, you can't really help where you lose weight from when, so if you say you're still 50 pounds away from your goal, or a healthy weight, then it's possible you will lose from there in the future.

Second, you lost a lot of weight pretty quickly, and sometimes it takes time for your skin to recover from weight loss and bounce back.

Third, weight lifting really can help tone what you have.  If you've done no exercise then you're not maximising your lean mass, i.e. you still have more fat than someone your weight/height that works out.  I think.  But it can give you more shape, increase your lean muscle mass, which in turn helps you burn more calories.  You don't have to do tons of working out but a few times a week lifting weights and maybe a half hour of cardio a day, or every other day can really make a difference.  Plus exercise releases endorphins and gives you energy and a whole bunch of other advantages that don't directly affect your physical appearance but can make you feel a lot better about yourself.

Last, sometimes your mind doesn't fix itself as quickly as your body does.  There are many days that I look in the mirror and see myself as I was 30 pounds ago.  So it's possible that your physique doesn't look as bad as you see it...give yourself a chance to catch up with your body. 

Hope this helps!

Weight Loss My Christmas present to me is the new me: group weigh in Nov 13 2009
09:56 (UTC)
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SW: 150? GW: 143 5'8 26 y.o.  

30 Oct: 148.2
6 Nov: 150
13 Nov (148.2): 148.6
20 Nov (147):
27 Nov (145.5):
4 Dec (144.5):
10 Dec (last day before I go home) (143):

So, today's weight is the highest since Tuesday...as I'm due for TTOM next week.  I've kept my calories at the right level and have lost an inch off my waist so hopefully next week will be an even bigger loss!

Good luck to everyone!

Weight Loss My Christmas present to me is the new me: group weigh in Nov 06 2009
10:23 (UTC)
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SW: 150? GW: 143 5'8 26 y.o.  

30 Oct: 148.2
6 Nov: 150
13 Nov (148.2):
20 Nov (147):
27 Nov (145.5):
4 Dec (144.5):
10 Dec (last day before I go home) (143):

So...my digital scale was apparently low on batteries because it started moving everywhere and when I changed the battery I was up 2.5 lb.  Boooooo.  Well, I have nothing to distract me until Thanksgiving, and I'm only giving myself that day, so hopefully the next three weeks will help me out.  So depressed right now. 

Weight Loss My Christmas present to me is the new me: group weigh in Oct 30 2009
13:40 (UTC)
53

SW: 148.2  GW: 140  5'8  26 y.o.

30 Oct: 148.2
6 Nov (147):
13 Nov (145.5):
20 Nov (144):
27 Nov (143):
4 Dec (141.5):
10 Dec (last day before I go home) (140):

Good luck to everyone!  I've been stuck around 150 for like a year so I'm really hoping this time around is better!

Weight Loss My Christmas present to me is the new me: group weigh in Oct 26 2009
14:20 (UTC)
77

May I join?  I'm going home 10 December so I won't be able to keep up past that (it'll be hard enough maintaining, without trying to keep losing!), but I'd like to have a group until then!

CW: ~148

GW: 138?

See you Friday!

Foods Which food can you not stop eating once you started... Oct 21 2009
12:18 (UTC)
13

Cheez-its, dark chocolate digestives, bourbon creams, muesli, Teddy Grahams, brie and baguette, french fries, and pizza!!  It is shocking how much pizza I can put away and still stay relatively close to 150lb!!

Weight Loss 11,000 calories a week? Oct 21 2009
11:36 (UTC)
6

I should definitely specify that I am not able to eat any less than 1200-1300 calories a day without being very very sad, and therefore never ever do it.  Sealed

Foods Trying to add eggs to my diet Sep 16 2009
14:57 (UTC)
10

Holla for free range  Sealed

Egg ideas:

breakfast burrito: eggs (i only use whites or egg beaters) scrambed with mushrooms, tomatoes, onions, peppers, maybe spinach, maybe salsa if you like, wrapped in a tortilla with laughing cow

egg drop soup: low sodium chicken broth, drop a raw scrambled egg in there while stirring.  filling, really low-calorie and yummmm

tortilla espanola: boiled potatoes sliced thin sauteed with onions in as little oil as possible (still need some so it doesn't stick)...then add lots of eggs scrambled and cook covered over low heat until it's set; flip and cook it without breaking!.  it's really really good chilled too on bread or by itself.

hard boiled, poached over tomatoes and spinach, frittatas, omelets, sunny side-up with some lean back bacon for a high protein meal, egg sandwiches, sooo many breakfast ideas.  crustless quiches, hmm, i love eggs...

Motivation 5'8" group losing 10-15 lb: CLOSED Sep 11 2009
14:56 (UTC)
4

Hi ltj, I do feel like we lost some in the first weigh-in!  We only had three people report back.  I'd like to stick with it but it's important to have some people going through the same stuff!  I've been procrastinating b/c my weigh-in this week was shameful...I was up to 152.2!!  Since two weeks ago I'm up 3.8 lb!  I'm sure (hoping) that it's a combination of water weight from all the crap I was eating and then getting back heavy into exercise...I tried to do the math:

Out of the past 14 days, I overate my calories on six days.  Overestimating that I ate 2000 over maintenance, that's 12,000 extra calories, or 3.5 lb. 

Out of the past 14 days, I ate at maintenence or slightly under 2 days.  Count those as nothing.

Out of the past 14 days, I ate between 600-1000 calories deficit, or average 800 on 6 days.  That would be a deficit of 4,800 or 1.4 lb.  

Overall, I know I didn't eat that much over on each of the days I overate, and I know my deficit was at least as good on the other days, so at the very most I should have gained 2lb of fat...which I was kind of anticipating.  My fiance's bday is on Sunday, so Sunday and Monday will be more overeating days though hopefully not by much...after that, I'm on the straight and narrow until Halloween!!  I'll stick with you ltj if you want! 

Motivation 5'8" group losing 10-15 lb: CLOSED Sep 04 2009
11:38 (UTC)
9

Hello all....

Just to let you know, I won't be weighing in today.  Last weekend was my birthday, and although I didn't go over much, the increase in food seems to have started a phase I sometimes go through where I am CONSTANTLY HUNGRY...seriously, can't get enough, and it's not dehydration or a mental thing, my stomach growls until sometimes I'm at almost 3000 calories.  Maybe it's a sign I don't eat enough when I'm cutting cals, but for whatever reason, I haven't been in the mood to step on the scale this week to see water weight or food weight or fat weight or whatever it's going to show me.  So...I will try to behave better and get back on the horse (scale) by next week.  good luck to everyone!

Motivation 5'8" group losing 10-15 lb: CLOSED Aug 28 2009
10:11 (UTC)
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Hi emccoy79, welcome.  Good luck with your journey; our goal date is 4 December.  Though, please read through my comments to ltjchicklet:

that 1200 calories is the MINIMUM intake for a 5'0 woman who's sedentary...you are 5'9 and moderately active, which means you burn around 2300-2400 calories a day.  As we know you shouldn't eat less than 1000 less than your burn, which would be 1300-1400 calories a day, and the most effective deficit is around 700, which means you should be eating closer to 1600 or 1700 calories.  I know it seems like the less you eat the more you lose, but you're setting yourself up to stall in your weight loss and hurt your metabolism.

Other than that, I closed the group so hopefully we can keep the numbers down.  Good luck on this week's weigh-in; I had a good week partly because I think my average calories were around 2000! (burning around 2700/day)

SW: 149.8
Aug 28: 148.4

Loss: -1.4

Monday is my bday and I'm going out to dinner and dancing on Saturday, having a huge bbq blowout on Sunday and then will eat to cure my hangover on Monday so I'm sure next week will be 5lb up...oh well I'm excited for my bday!!  Tongue out

Motivation 5'8" group losing 10-15 lb: CLOSED Aug 27 2009
09:36 (UTC)
23

ltjchicklet, I'm glad you're joining us!  I have to say though, that 1200 calories is the MINIMUM intake for a 5'0 woman who's sedentary...you are 5'9 and moderately active, which means you burn around 2300-2400 calories a day.  As we know you shouldn't eat less than 1000 less than your burn, which would be 1300-1400 calories a day, and the most effective deficit is around 700, which means you should be eating closer to 1600 or 1700 calories.  I know it seems like the less you eat the more you lose, but you're setting yourself up to stall in your weight loss and hurt your metabolism.  Plus you're not eating enough to keep your body functioning well or to provide you with enough energy to keep up with your little one!  So I'd recommend increasing your calories, I'd almost guarantee you'll have as much success without killing yourself!!

Motivation 5'8" group losing 10-15 lb: CLOSED Aug 26 2009
16:52 (UTC)
29

OK, ltjchicklet, consider this your formal invitation!  Send in your stats, we have our first official weigh-in on Friday, and our goal date is 4 December.  Good luck!

Kimberly, please please please do not take anything I say (about relationships anyway) to be a tip!!  I just saw how you guys have similar sides as me and my guy and that you guys were on the outs...made me worried!  I think the important part is that you agree on long-term stuff, romantically and logically: will you eventually get married, do you want to have kids, where do you want to live, what do you want to earn, etc.  As long as you agree on those sometimes a Type A and Type B can work well together, as long as they complement instead of clash.  Let us know how it goes, but I'm rooting for you two!

Foods Quick and easy protein... without all the calories? Aug 26 2009
15:55 (UTC)
10

Definitely normal tuna, chicken, turkey.  Also, egg whites have few calories and tons of protein.  Beans...

Another one of my favorites is TVP: it's a meatless substitution for ground beef or pork.  You can't really use it on its own but if you use it for tacos, lasagna, bolognese, or anything else that uses spices or sauce (it's like tofu in that it takes on the flavors of everything else) it's really high in protein but low in calories. 

Foods Rewarding Snacks that are healthy Aug 26 2009
14:03 (UTC)
2

Wow, really good ideas!  If you have a bit more time, you can make small bowls of oatmeal and add some sugar-free jam (40 g. oats, 1/2 c. skim milk, water, jam) for under 200 cal.  I also make pita pizzas with small whole wheat pitas (around 140 cal), I'll either use a bit of pesto or goat cheese and spinach; or tomatoes, oregano and parmesan cheese, broiled for about 10 min until it starts to get crispy for under 200 cal too.  You can make lots of snack sandwiches using iceberg lettuce instead of bread; tuna salad, chicken salad, cold cuts, cheeses.  Those could be as few as 100-150 cal.  2oz of tuna and 1 tbsp of light mayo is about 100 cal.  Cottage cheese with fruit; apples, celery, or rice cakes with peanut butter; celery and laughing cow cheese....the list goes on and on!

Motivation 5'8" group losing 10-15 lb: CLOSED Aug 26 2009
13:04 (UTC)
32

Ah yes, Nicole congrats on being nicotine free!  I quit a few years back and I'm glad I did, though sometimes I slip when I've been drinking, but it kills me each time!

I'm sorry to hear about all the relationship troubles...my fiance and I are exactly like you and your bf, Kimberly, except switched; I'm all logic and he's all emotion.  The good thing is that he is willing to go along with all my logical decisions so it works out for the time being.  Nicole, I'm sorry; I always get worried when I see such long relationships fizzle.  I always hope that by that point I would know but I suppose you never really know.  That's why my logical brain thinks marriage is so impossible to predict/say yes to!  We'll see...

Kimberly, why do you say 1600 is so hard for you?  I'm also around 1500-1600 but I'm usually stuffed at the end of the day...maybe you would want to post your menu and we can share ideas?  Also, you sound moderately active, which would put your daily burn close to 2500 so maybe 1600 just isn't enough? 

Sorry to post so frequently, but sometimes I get boredddddd...Sealed

Motivation 5'8" group losing 10-15 lb: CLOSED Aug 26 2009
09:29 (UTC)
34

Hi mszander: we're a closed group but I think you'll fit right in you're right at our stats!  Weigh-ins are on Fridays and we have a goal date of 4 December.  My mom also nannies for twin girls, two years old, and she says it's definitely a workout!  Good for your upper arms, picking kids up and putting them down all day.  Let us know what your calorie intake is like with your workout, and what rate you've been losing at.  Thanks, and good luck!

jennali: I don't let myself go on the weekends, but I will eat an extra few hundred calories to prevent myself getting into a rut, and like you say, enjoy myself a bit!  I find that it helps prevent plateaus (even when you're only losing .9/week like me!).  I'll also try to save the higher eating day for once every two weeks instead of on both weekend days, every week, so that it doesn't throw me off schedule as much.  As for running, you should definitely check out Couch to 5k (google it, it's on the coolrunning.com website).  It's a program that gets you running a 5k three times a week in 9 weeks through increased intervals, and is great for someone who's just starting out. I couldn't run at all, and starting doing it so I could run outside and I was amazed at how easy it was to run 2 miles straight after just a few weeks!!  Try it out, I bet you'll love it and maybe the change in activity will help break your plateau.  And don't get stressed about the 1600 cal, you said you were losing on that a few weeks ago and I'll bet you'll go back to losing once your body feels it's getting enough calories to safely lose.

Motivation 5'8" group losing 10-15 lb: CLOSED Aug 25 2009
15:00 (UTC)
39

Hello all,

Weekend was alright, I'm getting better at them in general but it will be a challenge the next three weekends as my fiance and I are both having birthdays!  Lots of drinking and eating; I'm trying to burn lots during the week with a higher deficit then enjoy myself on the weekends.  I think it's important to not say 'never drinking or eating ____ again', so I look towards holidays and special occasions thinking that I will use them to enjoy myself and not be so strict.  I also try to exercise a couple hours those days to balance it out. 

I was never really a 'binger', though I would eat lots.  I jsut would do it because I still wanted to eat instead of because I couldn't stop, and there was not much guilt afterwards...I'm more likely to eat lots of pizza or pasta, bread and cheese, rather than ice cream or cookies. 

Wants2bhot, yes please share your successes!  62 lb, that's amazing.  I'm really anxious to get down to where I can maintain as I've always been pretty good at maintaining when I was consciously trying to do so.  So any tips will help!

Good luck this week, eat what you want in moderation, stay away from alcohol until the weekend at least, and eat healthy tasty foods!

Weight Loss what's the best excercise Aug 25 2009
11:13 (UTC)
2

My fiance and I are hooked on squash.  It's one of the highest calorie burning activities you can do, and it's easy to start off playing well.  The only equipment you need are racquets and balls, which you can get for about £15/$20 each and balls are cheap.  We play for an hour 2 or 3 times a week, and I burn around 500 cal, while he burns around 800 (he's around 260lb)!  Plus it's really fun and the time flies by.  We also get a bit competitive (which might spice up the marriage outside the gym as well!).  Before or after, we'll also go up and lift weights separately to do weight training.  If there's no squash courts near you, racquet sports are all quite similar like racquetball, as far as calories burned go.  Good luck!

Foods Good Recipes? Aug 25 2009
10:32 (UTC)
3

Hey aptabb,

I'm always trying to lower calories so I can eat my favorites!  As for pizza, if I'm really craving it, I'll use a WW pita or tortilla (130cal), top with slices of tomato (25), sprinkle with oregano, and then with parmesan or pecorino romano cheese (60).  It's stronger so you don't need as much as if you used a cheese like mozzarella...then I add a bit of salami or turkey pepperoni or something (90), for around 300 cal.  Definitely not the same, but usually hits the spot!  As for cheese fries, I've heard some people rave on about sweet potato fries, but I personally don't really like sweet potatoes.  I make my own potato wedges that are pretty healthy; boil potatoes for about ten minutes until they're somewhat tender, then cut them into wedges (thinner the better for fry-like).  Spray with low-cal cooking spray or o.o. spray and sprinkle with salt, broil for 20 min or until they're as crispy as you like them.  As for cheese fries, well, don't add too much cheese!  You could also spice them up  by making your own chili, and using TVP instead of meat.  It's a meat substitute that you add water to, and with something as spiced up as chili you can't even tell the difference, and it's healthy and protein filled.  Top your potatoes with that and a sprinkling of cheese and you have better-for-you chili cheese fries! 

Also, a good website for remaking your favorites is hungrygirl: http://www.hungry-girl.com/chew/index.php

Good luck!

Tink

Motivation 5'8" group losing 10-15 lb: CLOSED Aug 24 2009
09:33 (UTC)
45

jennali- you did not in any way offend anyone!  i just want people to be healthy, and i totally understand that the eat more to lose weight thing is so hard to grasp, so i guess i'm just hoping that the more you/we all hear it the more we'll accept it!  case in point, i work out a lot and have worried that 1500 cal was not enough....saturday and sunday i ran closer to 1800-2000, and today i was down a half pound!  just don't freak out if you go up at first...if you can help it maybe stay off the scale for a few days after upping your cals?

raerose- i can't even imagine working in a bakery and trying to count calories!  i feel like it's definitely healthy to try to go about it without counting everything, but we can't let that be an excuse to binge.  try to go a week or even a few days not counting, but preparing healthy, tasty, well rounded meals and eating until you're full.  appreciate it!  also, this is a hard habit for me b/c i usually eat alone, but try to not watch tv or use the computer while eating.  just eat, and enjoy it!  and when life is hectic, try to plan your meals ahead with stuff you can either prepare and bring with you, or with food you know will be available wherever you are.  if you have a plan and manage to stick with it you'd be less likely to panic and binge, and then feel guilty.

kimberly- congratulations!  it's the small stuff like that that can motivate us to see it through to the end!  whenevr i'm around stuff i love and just want to eat until it's no more, i remember the studies that say you only really taste and enjoy the first few bites, after that it won't satisfy your tastebuds any more than the first ones.  so go ahead and enjoy a few bites, and then fill up with salad or something you can fit into your allowance.  we can't be expected to never eat pizza again, and we should be practicing a lifestyle we can do forever.  though i hear you when you say if you'd known you would have been able to save some calories....

i'm so happy we're here!  let's do well ladies!  i also want to change the goal date to 4 december, which is the first friday in december, and should give us some time to cancel out whatever we eat on thanksgiving!  (thanksgiving is definitely my favorite holiday!)

-jenna

 

Motivation 5'8" group losing 10-15 lb: CLOSED Aug 23 2009
12:36 (UTC)
50

Hi jennali,

I'm glad you could join us!  I did send an invite but didn't get any response yet (though I didn't really leave much time!).  Before we get started though, I have to say that CC won't accept anyone supporting your calorie intake of 1000, it's NOT ENOUGH!!!!  Women over 21 need at least 1200 cal/day, and that's for a 5'0 sedentary woman.  You are young, have a faster metabolism, are much taller and do plenty of exercise, and should probably be eating at least 1500 cal/day, maybe even 1800 with all the exercise you do every day.  Low calorie intake might make you lose weight initially but your weight loss will stall as your body will think it's starving and hold onto everything, plus you could mess up your metabolism in the future.  So, please please increase your intake!  I'm positive you'll still lose weight, though you might gain a bit in the beginning as your body adjusts.  Plus you need energy, you're young, active, and need brain power for school!

So, long story, you're welcome to join, ONLY if you increase intake and do it healthily!  The rest of us have healthy intakes and if it seems as if you're succeeding on such a low intake it could have a negative intake on the rest of us.

Motivation 5'8" group losing 10-15 lb: CLOSED Aug 22 2009
15:47 (UTC)
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HW: 173
CW: 149.8
GW: 135
Age: 25
Cal/day: 1500
Exercise: M, W: volleyball for 2 hours; M,W,F: squash for 1 hour; everyday, walking at least an hour as I don't have a car and don't like public transportation!  When I get bored sometimes I'll run though it hurts my knees, lift weights or do yoga.

I'm also in the UK (N. Ireland) so I might be posting a bit earlier on Fridays.  I am American, though I've been here for a few years.  I'm also getting married in 2011 and I definitely want to be at goal by then; I can see myself putting it off so long that it doesn't happen so I'm doing it now!  I've been maintaining around 150 or a bit lower for the past 9 months and I want to get back into dropping now.  See you guys soon.

Games & Challenges ***August***Weight Loss Challenge--Sign Ups Always Welcome! Aug 21 2009
10:40 (UTC)
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Again, stayed at 1500; again, burned at least 2200-2500 a day; again, nothing!!  I know it's a bit but come on...I hit 149.6 on Tues and Wed too, and with no change in diet or anything started up again.  I am due for TTOM early next week and do put some water weight on, so I'm hoping if I stick with it I'll see a better drop next week.  I better!  If not I'm going to try to up calories a bit for a week, then drop then down more for a week to see what seems to work better.

Name: Tink
Age: 25
Height:  5'8"
Start Weight in August 1, 2009:  151.8
Goal Weight (by August 28):  145

Aug 07: 150.6
Aug 14: 150.2
Aug 21:149.8
Aug 28:

Total loss: -2


Weight Loss Weight Gain with fewer calories?? Aug 21 2009
10:06 (UTC)
4

My biggest confusion is deciding how much I really burn?  Maybe gi-jane can help...  At 5'8", ~150, 25 y.o., I walk at least an hour every day to get around, am active enough around the house cleaning, cooking, and at work I walk around at least once an hour to get stuff done.  Mondays and Wednesdays I have vb practice and play squash and burn between 1000-1400 cal in 3 hours according to my HRM.  I play squash on Fridays, for about 400 cal, and sometimes I'll do weights or run if I'm bored on the other days.  I eat 1500 cal consistently but am not losing any weight.  Am I not eating enough, if I burn 3000 cal 2 days a week, but only around 2200 the other days?

Weight Loss 5'8 ..........155 need to lose 15!!! Who's with me? Aug 19 2009
16:51 (UTC)
6

I've found like 5 'twins' in this thread...I'm writing so I can find you all again next time I need you!  I started at 173, am down to 149.6 today, and want to get down to 135 at least.  I have been hovering in low 150s high 140s since November and I really need to get back to it!  I stick to around 1500 cal/day, and play vb 2x or 3x a week, squash 3x a week, run sometimes, yoga, and weights when I can fit it in.  I've been pretty consistent and haven't gone over calories much lately but I seem to be kinda stuck!  I'm hoping it will all go down at once or at least start moving more soon!  Good luck to everyone.  I'm thinking of starting a weigh in group for those of you who are around 150, 5'8" and looiking to get to 135.  Would be a perfect group!  Message me if you're up for it!

Weight Loss Weight Loss Goal Aug 19 2009
14:12 (UTC)

You need to keep updated your weight progress on your account page.  If you never change your weight there, it will assume you've stayed the same since the beginning of your journey therefore changing how much time it will take you to reach your goals.  It assumes you'll lose weight at a certain rate; if you lose more quickly the target date will be closer, if you lose more slowly then the target date will move further away.

The Lounge To the American Guy on the news this morning.. Aug 14 2009
13:12 (UTC)
29

I am American, and lived in America for the first twenty years of my life.  I have now been living in the UK for a few years, and happened to start getting really sick after I arrived.  I found it easy to find a doctor and schedule appointments within a reasonable amount of time.  I found it shocking that it didn't cost me a co-payment, and that when filling prescriptions, I didn't have to cross my fingers in hope that that particular prescription would be one that cost $100 versus $10, as can happen in the US.  When I had to have surgery to fix my health issues, I was scheduled in within a reasonable amount of time, fully prepared as to what would happen, met my surgeon, had wonderful nurses and hospital staff take care of me, and then left the hospital once I had sufficiently healed armed with information about my recovery and medicines.  I scheduled a follow-up with my doctor and was allowed off of work at no cost to my pay until I felt well enough to return.  I was thoroughly impressed at the outstanding efficiency of the NHS and the quality of the service I received, and as a 'snooty American' I did worry a bit!

That said, I grew up in a middle class house that earned a decent salary, and it was still incredibly difficult to meet health costs with insurance!  Prescriptions are really expensive (my brother has asthma and his inhalers are something like $100 a month!), birth control isnt' free, doctors' waiting lists are just as long and you still have to pay for appointments!  I don't need luxury, I need health care, and if I can pay for it out of my taxes and not have to worry about it in another way even better.  Doesn't matter if I make 30,000 a year or 300,000 insurance is absurdly expensive for private in the US and I don't care to have to consciously decide whether I might have an accident and want to spend $6,000 a year voluntarily! 

Plus, if the US system will be similar to the NHS, if you're snooty and don't think public health care is good enough for you, you can still go private!!

And yes, the teeth here are noticably worse than in the US, but it is because dentists have privatised and it's damn near impossible to become a patient of a NHS one.  Plus they rarely decide that kids need braces (which in the States still cost an arm and a leg, even with dental!).

So there are my two cents from someone who's lived in both the US and UK.  p.s. Hatamoto, you're hysterical

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