Joel

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The Lounge Is it illegal to... Oct 06 2008
21:33 (UTC)
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Defacement of property, much? =)

P.S.: I want to replace Obama/Biden stickers with Clinton/Obama stickers. Muah Laughing.

Motivation No support from husband Sep 23 2008
15:12 (UTC)
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First off, congratulations on your weight loss!  It is certainly not easy, so you've definitely accomplished something =D.

Second, your husband sounds like an abysmal and atrocious individual.  Insults have no place in a healthy relationship... I can't stand guys who mistreat (and yes, verbal abuse is definitely mistreatment) women. 

Remember, you can always come to us for support and encouragement!  Not only do we want you to succeed, we want you to do it for none other than yourself.  And you can!  You've already proven that you have what it takes to make a change, now you just need to stick it out =).


Good luck, and hopefully your husband's attitude will improve... of course, you could always maybe not stick around when he changes his tune later on down the road ;).

The Lounge Police Brutality Jul 18 2008
18:05 (UTC)
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Original Post by kimne:

Original Post by cruithear:

Original Post by schnooder:

Original Post by pgeorgian:

Original Post by reila_and_my_chrome_heart:

Come on now, if you have anger issues that bad, don't be a cop.

as far as i can tell, reila, that's why most cops are cops.

 

Are you kidding me. That's bull. I know dozens of officers, considering my father was one and anger issues has nothing to do with wanting to protect your community.

How stupid.

When I asked my cousin why he wanted to be a cop (he's since decided against it), he told me it was because he got to carry a gun.  Maybe that's not the general reasoning, but I can't imagine it doesn't play any part in it.  Especially in rural areas.

 Honestly, I'm starting to wonder about the type of friends/family that you have.

You also have to keep in mind you are only get one side of the story (the stories you posted earlier). Is someone really going to say "Hey I was fighting the cops and they tasered me". No they are all going to say "I wasn't doing nothing." As far as the videos go - how many show from the very begining? Before the police show up? So you get the full picture.

I'm starting to wonder if you are married to the mob.  Seriously, are you going to make me post my family tree with every single crime listed?  You're coming off a bit high-and-mighty here, and as a result I am now going to walk away from this conversation.  You obviously missed every point that I have made, and tried to find some easy counter; now you are going to question my motives and my upbringing.  Congratulations on sinking to the level of an immature child.  For the record, not one person in my extended family has ever been convicted of a felony, only one has been charged, and the only time I went to visit an inmate was on a drunk-driving charge, for which I was glad he was imprisoned. 

The Lounge Police Brutality Jul 18 2008
18:02 (UTC)
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Original Post by pgeorgian:

yeah, i think if you had to put in five or ten years before you earned your gun, they might be able to consistently recruit people with the right motives.

That would probably improve the perception of officers too, but then, what about TASERs and clubs and the like.  I think it is the power that draws the wrong people in.

Oh, and #44, if that is the case I consider at least 1/3rd of the Nelson County Sheriff's Department in Virginia to be in the wrong field ;). (Good ole boys, if there ever were any.)

The Lounge Police Brutality Jul 18 2008
17:56 (UTC)
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Original Post by schnooder:

Original Post by pgeorgian:

Original Post by reila_and_my_chrome_heart:

Come on now, if you have anger issues that bad, don't be a cop.

as far as i can tell, reila, that's why most cops are cops.

 

Are you kidding me. That's bull. I know dozens of officers, considering my father was one and anger issues has nothing to do with wanting to protect your community.

How stupid.

When I asked my cousin why he wanted to be a cop (he's since decided against it), he told me it was because he got to carry a gun.  Maybe that's not the general reasoning, but I can't imagine it doesn't play any part in it.  Especially in rural areas.

The Lounge Police Brutality Jul 18 2008
17:50 (UTC)
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Original Post by kimne:

Were you a guest in these jails?

 

... do I look like a criminal?  I've never been arrested.  That'd be a no.  I was a visitor to an inmate in two of the county jails, and my friend worked in the third county jail as well as the major regional jail.

Edit:  Ok, the beard and beer might make me look like a criminal.  A college criminal!  Muah.

The Lounge Police Brutality Jul 18 2008
17:49 (UTC)
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Original Post by kimne:

Oh while we are lumping groups of people together - Don't go to the hospital especially the ER, they will KILL you! Did you see the news about that lady that went to the ER and was throwing up blood on the floor in the waiting room and they just ignored her?  Well, you know most hospital ER are going to be like that. So just stay and home where you will be safe.

You're really, really pushing the edges here.  I'll say this again, I've been to the ER (between my father and myself, several times) and they are great people!  I'm not making my statements based on YouTube videos!  Crikey, I am making my judgements based on extensive personal knowledge.  Don't patronize us with this nonsense, because it is completely unrelated.

The Lounge Police Brutality Jul 18 2008
17:40 (UTC)
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Original Post by kimne:

I think the post office is a good example of what I'm talking about in #29. How many of you are familar with the term "going postal"?

I've seen many nice postal workers in my time, thank you very much =).  I've been to courthouses, worked at McDonald's, been to three county jails, one major regional jail, and been pulled over several times (without tickets mind you).  I have interacted with officers on many levels, and I assure you that in this area, they are not "mostly good people." 

The Lounge Police Brutality Jul 18 2008
17:39 (UTC)
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Original Post by kimne:

What jurisdiction does your friend work for?

She lives and works in Cambridge, MD... that's all I know.

The Lounge Police Brutality Jul 18 2008
17:37 (UTC)
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Oh, and I have another little story to add.


My best friend grew up in Orange County, California with his mother and step-father.  One day, his little brother was kidnapped.  Police detained his mother and stepfather without arrest, without giving them their rights, and questioning them without a lawyer present.  For 18 hours.  His little brother was found dead in a ravine the next day, and reports had come in about a confession from a local teen who had planned to return him and be a presumed hero for finding him.  Unfortunately, the child was locked in the trunk with no air and suffocated.  That young gentleman was never prosecuted.

Fast forward several months to a lawsuit filed against the Orange County Sheriff's Department.  In the defense of the officers, it was presented that there was a half-eaten hotdog found in the stomach of the child, and that piece of evidence implicated his family as perpitrators. The police were cleared of any wrongdoing on not prosecuting the teen who confessed to the crime.

The Lounge Police Brutality Jul 18 2008
17:27 (UTC)
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Original Post by kimne:

Then does that mean as someone that works for a police dept (although as a civilian) I'm only here because what? I like hanging with people that get to beat people up for no reason? That I like a good story about how the guys get to go out and abuse the public.

Gee, and I thought I like my job because I got to see all the good that the police due that the public rarely ever sees. Because I want to be a part of the group of people that go out and find the bad guy like the one that killed my first boyfriend when I was 12 years old.

My friend is a dispatcher is Maryland and complains about the officers there every day.  The bad people are everywhere, but that does not give officers the right to beat on the people who are not so bad.  Just because they have a rough job with some really bad people is no excuse to beat on 13 year old kids, taser someone who is not resisting MULTIPLE times, or throw a woman down on the road with a gun pointed at her for driving a little further to pull over.  And just because it DOESN'T make YouTube doesn't mean it didn't happen.  We don't see the good there, but we certainly don't see NEARLY all the bad.

The Lounge Police Brutality Jul 18 2008
17:00 (UTC)
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I can't think of a time that I haven't disliked cops.  My uncle was drunk in public, with a beer in his hand and tight jeans with no shirt.  An officer drew a weapon on him and told him that if he didn't lie on the ground with his hands behind his back, she would open fire.

Another local incident involved a man being shot 7 times for "advancing on an officer with a pitchfork," when he was clearly maced and stumbling around because he couldn't see.

I was pulled over doing the speed limit on interstate 81, told (not asked) to exit my vehicle, and was marched 20 feet away from my car, placed on the ground, and searched.  My vehicle was then searched, and when I was finally told why this was occuring, I was told that I had a brake light out.  On inspection of the vehicle, all lights were functioning properly.

I now carry the number of a lawyer in my pocket, and I am considering adding the number to the local Internal Affairs office as well, to protect myself from the injustice that runs rampant throughout our nation.  They claim to be protectors of the masses, and servants of the people.  They are no better than the people who sell drugs to kids.   (Edit:  Maybe that was a bit harsh, but having talked to two cops in my family, most people are looked down on and treated like garbage.  It is almost like class separation, but generally they have this view about anyone that isn't a cop or something of the like.)

While I am sure there are some decent officers out there (I know of one locally, who studders =D), I think it is safe to say that the general populace of police officers is rife with injustice and a lack of moral compass.

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 18 2008
04:42 (UTC)
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Original Post by anaxandra:

Before I add my two cents I should mention that I do not take compliments well in general. 

So any unsolicited comments on my appearance from strange men is very disconcerting to me, whether he means well or not.  It makes me think "what does he want, and how can I get out of this without being rude?"  If he is just paying me a compliment and isn't hitting on me, it still makes me feel awkward and self-conscious. 

I don't feel flattered because I figure guys who say this will say it to just about any woman...I'm not so naive to think I'm special (yes I'm on to you guys ;) )
 

Everyone's special in some way =D.  Maybe you just aren't told often enough... so, you're special!  I went years taking apart everything anybody said to me, trying to find how it could be bad.  I'm glad I finally grew out of that, because it made me a more outgoing and happier person in general =).

The Lounge Virginia people? Jul 17 2008
20:38 (UTC)
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Virginia Tech represent! (I'm not originally from Blacksburg, but that's where I live until I start on my PhD in NY =D).

The Lounge Links to Funny Videos (ie. Candy Mountain, Charlie Bit My Finger, etc.) Jul 17 2008
20:06 (UTC)
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Original Post by dcyounts:

Charlie Bit My Finger!!  "Ouch Charlie, that really Hurt!"

You dirty, dirty bastard.


Edit:  If it ends in ZuuiU, don't click it.  I should have checked, but I didn't expect it here >.<

The Lounge Links to Funny Videos (ie. Candy Mountain, Charlie Bit My Finger, etc.) Jul 17 2008
19:42 (UTC)
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Original Post by hkellick:

Original Post by cruithear:

Samwell

Always great... and frightening =D.

OMG. You went there ;p

That video is.. terrible. Just terrible. ;p

Butters' Version

Better? =D

The Lounge Links to Funny Videos (ie. Candy Mountain, Charlie Bit My Finger, etc.) Jul 17 2008
19:38 (UTC)
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Samwell

Always great... and frightening =D.

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
19:16 (UTC)
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Well, I meant because I'm going to go get lunch, but ok =).

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
19:14 (UTC)
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Original Post by kathygator:

hee hee and they were both receptive to the gesture :D

BTW Joel when I said 'you just got here' I meant you are new to the site.

Got ya, no more opinions from me ;).

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
19:10 (UTC)
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Some stay dry and others feel the pain

Chocolate Rainnnnn

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
18:58 (UTC)
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Original Post by jules817:

agreed. i like you joel.

*gives joel a reeses cup*

Merci beaucoup!  Me like-ee Reeses Cups =).

No Joel, you're a big boy now.

 

(Bonus to anyone who picks up on that =D)

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
18:52 (UTC)
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Original Post by dcyounts:

This thread has lost me... ever since cruithear came back I can't keep up... Go Gators.

Go Hokies!

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
18:47 (UTC)
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Original Post by ness757:

Original Post by cruithear:

Following that logic, why should anyone say anything remotely controversial at all? You never know who might have been offended by or had an experience relating to something you said.

Besides, there is a difference betwen forcing someone to engage in sexual acts and agressively touching someone sexually and making a few drive-by comments.


There is no reason whatsoever to humiliate or degrade a woman.  How would you like if a group of young kids drove by and yelled "FATASS!"  Fat or not, you would certainly not appreciate it.  Hah-hah, funny joke, right? 

Where's the joke?

And it wouldn't bother me. As far as I'm concerned, they are just words.

#269

If you are talking about my most recent statement, I'd like to know how you pulled that out of it.  If not, please tell me which one you are talking about. I've made many.

You have a higher tolerance for people saying stupid things than I Wink.  My point is, women disliking being yelled at from a car is common knowledge.  So, why do it?  There is no reason, except to be a prick.

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
18:41 (UTC)
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Original Post by kathygator:

Ness: following your logic, then must we assume that men merely see cat-calling out of car windows as perfectly normal behavior?

Respectful men do not.

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
18:39 (UTC)
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Following that logic, why should anyone say anything remotely controversial at all? You never know who might have been offended by or had an experience relating to something you said.

Besides, there is a difference betwen forcing someone to engage in sexual acts and agressively touching someone sexually and making a few drive-by comments.


There is no reason whatsoever to humiliate or degrade a woman.  How would you like if a group of young kids drove by and yelled "FATASS!"  Fat or not, you would certainly not appreciate it.  Hah-hah, funny joke, right? 

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
18:31 (UTC)
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Original Post by kathygator:

255: then you are in agreement with 99% of the posters in this thread.

258: Dude! you just said you'd back hand someone who did it in your vehicle??? You TRYIN to piss me off?? ;D

You think backhanding a jerk in the car is a problem? O.o


I hate despectful guys Yell.

 

Edit for confusion.   What?

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
18:26 (UTC)
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Original Post by santonacci:

Original Post by cruithear:

She said ANY behavior. 

 Actually, she said "it is never 'ok' to make someone feel threatened, regardless of the intent."

So, if someone happens to be threatening you by their pacing, you could politely ask them to stop.  If they were being respectful, they could stop.  Or you could get into a fist fight about your right to not put up with pacing and the other guys right to pace.

But wouldn't being respectful be a little bit easier?

Girlies: yes, there are benign comments, and abusive ones. Yes it is up to each person to decide their own boundaries. But, again, it is up to none of us to determine what another's boundaries are. If someone feels threatened, they feel threatened, simple as that. and it is never 'ok' to make someone feel threatened, regardless of the intent. And since the random guy does not know what makes a girl feel threatened, again knock it off.

I see nothing in there about kindly asking the gentleman to stop.  Otherwise I wouldn't have responded... I think that is actually a good idea =).

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
18:24 (UTC)
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Original Post by kathygator:

Lippy: was merely trying to unfrazzle the thread. take it easy.

Mooni: lippy showed empathy for p0nda's experience, albiet belated.

cruith: what's your actual point? are you defending a dude's right to shout out the window at a girl? you know there is a difference between pacing and actively engaging someone in an interaction.

My point (from the very beginning) is that not all comments to girls from guys are harmful!  If I heard a guy in my vehicle yell out to a girl on the street, I'd backhand him (I don't have any friends that would, but the idea remains).  My point is that you shouldn't take every single compliment the wrong way.  I complement women from time to time and the only thing it means to me is just that... a compliment.  Nothing more.

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
18:19 (UTC)
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Original Post by kathygator:

bad because you took one sentence out of context - when clearly i was referring very specifically to this particular conversation.

trust me, there is very little you can tell me about chivalry and courtly love. if you read through carefully you will see many times in this thread many women, myself included, applauding respectful compliments.

ease up. you just got here :)

I was the first one to respond to this thread (albiet in a joking manner) ;).  I'm one of the guys that would be walking by a girl or see her at an event (say a party), and tell her that she was absolutely gorgeous without feeling bad about that.  I don't see the harm in telling a woman that she is beautiful =).  I agree, cat-calling and yelling from cars is ridiculous, but to quote the OP:

"I went to the movies today, and while my friend and I were sitting down having a smoke two guys walk by and wink at us and say, "looking good ladies." "

Even if there was a wink (who really winks these days), it is still a minor compliment.  That's what kills me; that someone should take such a compliment to be a request of some sort.

The Lounge What is wrong with guys these days? Jul 17 2008
18:16 (UTC)
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Original Post by santonacci:

Original Post by cruithear:

Explain how in the WORLD that was a bad analogy. 

Skin color is not an active behavior - cat calling and harrassing women is.

She didn't say cat calling.  She said ANY behavior.  Walking into a room and sitting down is a behavior.  But fine, I'll change it to this.  If someone is pacing around a room and I feel threatened by their pacing, do they have to stop pacing because I feel threatened?

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