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| Vegetarian | Bugs. | Aug 30 2009 20:00 (UTC) |
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1) Are bugs considered 'animals' to you? If so, if there was a bug or spider on you, what would you do? Yep. I would only harm the bug if it posed a danger to me, ie poisonous spider. I do understand a reflex reaction to swat at bugs 2) Would you kill a snake? Ditto 3) Does obtaining wool or silk harm the animal? And if not, why are so many vegans and vegetarians against using wool and silk? Yes. Silk is obtained by boiling the worms alive, so I don't use it. The wool industry is notorously cruel, especially in Australia. The muelsing process slices off parts of a lamb's backside without an painkillers. Other countries have eliminated this process, but Australia has not. 4) If I eat vegan or vegetarian for a year and have a 'slip up' on accident, am I still a vegan/veggie or does my 'timer' start over? I think this is an issue of whether you know something isn't veg. If a restaraunt used a non-veg stock and told you the meal was veg, that isn't your fault. That is very different than occasionally eating meat on purpose. I think frequency is also pretty important. If you slip up on rare occasion, you can still be veg, but the person who "slips up" and eats Chick-fil-A every week is not. 5) Do you still feed your pets meat products? Veg products are availible for dogs and cats. That is a personal choice that you should make with your vet. 6) Do your family members still eat meat or is your entire family vegetarian, vegan? My fiance eats veg at home. My parents and siblings are not veg. 7) What exactly is a flexatarian vegetarian? That is not a vegetarian. 8) Do you consider sugar vegan? There are vegan sugars availible. I think it is important to not act like a nut case on this issue. I buy vegan sugars at home and prefer them when availible, but if say a family member made me a wonderful vegan cake but was unaware of the sugar issue, I certainly wouldn't ask about it. and lastly 9) How many of you (veggies only) have your house sprayed for rodents or keep your pets in cages? I don't hire an exterminator. |
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| Vegetarian | Dorm room friendly? | Apr 22 2009 02:18 (UTC) |
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I believe PETA 2 has a brand new cookbook coming out next month that is entirely dorm friendly. From what I've heard, none of the recipes require a stove or full kitchen |
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| Vegetarian | Where is the line and when is it crossed? | Mar 25 2009 02:09 (UTC) |
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Sorry, I'm just a bit bothered by misconceptions about PETA. PETA does humanely euthanize animals, but with good reason. PETA does not opperate an animal shelter and does not claim to. PETA has a program called the community animal project that does a few things that that website willingly disregards 1) Offers euthanasia services for those who can not afford to have their elderly or sick animals euthanized by a vet. This is one of many services PETA offers to those who don't have the resources to care for their animals, including free and low cost spay/neuter, reduced cost medication, etc. 2) Responding to animal emergencies. PETA euthanizes animals in situations like animals who have been hit by cars or been in other devistating accidents. I agree that ending an animal's suffering is the best option on those cases. 3) PETA does not take in adoptable animals because they are not a shelter. They refer all adoptable animals to high traffic shelters in the area. 4) PETA has provided humane euthanasia services for rural shelters in combination with a variety of other shelter improvement programs. In these cases, those animals would be euthanized anyway, but in a way that causes more pain and suffering. There are still shelters that kill animals using terrifying gas chambers and gun shots. Yes, PETA's euthanasia % is higher than a shelter because they don't have an adoption program and they do carry out programs that most traditional animal shelters won't touch. I question what that web site considers to be an adoptable animal. The site you note is run by a group that does not have the best interests of animals at heart. If you do some research, you will see that the Center for Consumer freedom is functionally a front group for industries that PETA campaigns against. They also campaign against animal welfare groups, like the Humane Society of the United States. I think PETA does recognize that some people will still eat meat, but it doesn't make sense for them to endorse a particular brand or help people find "happy" meat. Instead, they work on getting companies to improve the animal welfare standards that they set for their suppliers. It would have a far greater potential to help a larger number of animals if major fast food chains, grocery stores, etc demanded more humane standards than focusing on a few individuals who are willing to invest the time and money to find small farms with humane treatment. |
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| Vegetarian | Where is the line and when is it crossed? | Mar 23 2009 02:36 (UTC) |
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I think many people fail to consider that PETA is an animal rights organization that believes that animals are not for human consumption. Whether they are raised by some mom and pop farmers or in a factory farm, PETA is still against animals being killed for food. At the same time, they do work to improve animal welfare, but ultimately, they are a pro-vegan organization. They are perfectly aware that there are differences in quality of life, and many of their campaign targets are about improving welfare. Unfortunately, KFC isn't buying their chickens from any small, free range farms, so that is where PETA steps in and selects a target.
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| The Lounge | For those of you who have crate-trained puppies | Mar 07 2009 00:36 (UTC) |
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I'm certainly not saying that your dog should eat from your plate, but at the same time, how would you like having to "hold it" for 8hours+? Dogs that young are still being socialized and as pack animals, you are doing them a disservice by keeping them separated and confined. Dogs may from time to time choose to want to have space to themselves, but I doubt any of them would choose a crate for 8 hours. Dog's recognize routines and choosing to go into a crate as part of a routine is not a reflection that they enjoy staying in there. Also, dogs want to make you happy. If they are following what you want (going into their crate), they are going to seem happy because they are making you happy. I don't think the price of hiring a neighbor's kid to walk them in the afternoon is that unreasonable. If your commute is so long, don't you think its especially unfair to your dog to keep them penned up that long? 8 hours plus one for lunch and an hour and a half for commuting? Does anyone think they could "hold it" for 10 and a half hours? There are costs associated with choosing to bring a dog into your life. Training and a dog walker may seem optional, but overall they will likely make both you and your dog happier |
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| The Lounge | For those of you who have crate-trained puppies | Mar 06 2009 18:32 (UTC) |
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Sorry but that still sounds aweful. Why on earth would a dog enjoy being caged? Especially one as small as some of you suggest. It sounds like a convenient way to not deal with real training issues or the need to provide a stimulating environment for your dog. Your dog chews because he or she is bored because they are left alone for long periods of time. Maybe you need to invest in a dog walker or find ways to come home more often during the day instead of caging your dog. After all, it would be just as easy to cage children during the day, but for some crazy reason we realize that is inhumane. |
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| Foods | Cooking for one frustration | Mar 06 2009 16:58 (UTC) |
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There are a few other things you can do to cut down on waste for some of those things. Try buying tubes of tomato paste instead of cans. Those are re-sealable and you can use just a bit of it at once. Make your own stock and freeze it in portions that you would use for recipes. Freeze it in an ice cube tray and move those to a freezer bag once hardened. You can just toss one of those into a pan if you are trying to use a small amount of stock. If you buy stock, you can always try for the resealable container and try to make a few recipes around the same time that use it so it won't go bad. Bottled lemon juice should keep. Or better yet, just buy a lemon or two when you need them. Use left overs sliced in a glass of water or w/ tea. |
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| Vegetarian | I've never seen a "muscular" vegan... | Feb 05 2009 15:08 (UTC) |
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That study seems flawed at best. If you want to determine if animal proteins are superior, you need to get people similar amounts of protein and iron. If you look at the veg meals, most seem to be lacking a protein source. We shouldn't be surprised that atheletes that eat protein preform better than those who get very little. Some of the meals look well balanced (veg chilli vs meat chilli), but others like vegfie pasta vs pasta w/ tuna, veggie couscous vs couscous w/ veggies and chicken seem like meat meals - the meat instead of what a vegetarian athlete who is concerned with their protein level would choose. |
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| Vegetarian | I've never seen a "muscular" vegan... | Feb 04 2009 15:04 (UTC) |
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I think UFC fighters count as muscular :) http://www.peta2.com/outthere/o_mac_danzig_uf c.asp I think it is more likely that women tend to be vegan, and are generally less muscular. Also, a lot of coaches and other resources for building muscle push animal flesh as necessary for that type of body. |
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| The Lounge | PETA Urges Ben & Jerry's To Use Human Milk--Eww? | Sep 25 2008 03:26 (UTC) |
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I think a lot of people are missing the point. PETA doesn't want Ben and Jerry's to ACTUALLY start using human breast milk. They want your attention and for you to draw parallels between the fact that many people have an "ick" response to human breast milk but for some crazy reason are ok with drinking cow breast milk.
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| Vegetarian | I Eat Fish | Sep 21 2008 02:54 (UTC) |
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Chickens aren't mammals either, but people who eat chicken aren't vegetarians. Vegetarians don't eat animals, whether they have hooves, fins, or feathers. I wouldn't consider eatting bugs to be a vegetarian choice either.
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| Vegetarian | I Eat Fish | Sep 20 2008 16:47 (UTC) |
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People who eat fish and call themselves vegetarian do influence the way the general public understand vegetarianism, and it does have a negative impact on people who adhere to an actual vegetarian diet.Well let me give you an example. Lets say you are going to a wedding and you politely ask if there is a vegetarian option at the reception. You are told that there is so you don't make other accommodations. When you arrive, your "vegetarian" option is fish. In that case, it actually does effect me. I would also prefer to be able to select vegetarian options in restaurants and not have to worry that they interpret fish oils, etc to be vegetarian ingredients.
Conversely, what benefit is there for someone who eats fish to call themselves vegetarian? If you are correct that those labels don't matter, then why use it? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate everything people do that helps animals, and eatting less meat is part of that. I just dislike the dilution of this term. Like I said, I have met people who eat Chick-Fil-A chicken sandwiches for lunch every day and yet call themselves vegetarian. Stuff like that really makes me crazy. |
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| Vegetarian | I Eat Fish | Sep 20 2008 15:12 (UTC) |
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I don't think it is a "holier than thou" issue. Part of it has to do with the annoyance of having to explain that the fish dinner you were just served is not in fact vegetarian, or answer the question "oh but you eat fish?" when you explain that you are veg*n, or even that there are people who call themselves vegetarian but eat fish and chicken. I think words should have meaning, and when everyone wants to be a *atarian you dilute the meaning of those words for those who have very strong feelings about the ethical choices that those words mean. There are a lot of groups who dislike when another person does something that falls outside of their moral boundaries and yet appropriates their title. |
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| Vegetarian | I Eat Fish | Sep 20 2008 00:12 (UTC) |
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Yeah, eatting animals = not vegetarian. If someone said I don't eat any meat except for burgers, I'm a burgertarian, I wouldn't consider them veg either. |
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| Vegetarian | Best Veg Friendly Collages? | Sep 19 2008 15:02 (UTC) |
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http://www.peta2.com/college/c-vegschools-win ners07.asp
People are voting, so who know's how accurate it is, but worth thinking about. |
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| Vegetarian | (Not-So) Vegan Thanksgiving | Sep 10 2008 20:58 (UTC) |
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This has some delicious sounding ideas
http://www.dessertsmag.com/index.php?option=c om_flippingbook&Itemid=91&book_id=4 |
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| The Lounge | True Life "I Can't Stay Thin" | Sep 07 2008 17:38 (UTC) |
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I don't even understand how he thinks cutting himself off from the world as his only way to lose weight thinks that what he is doing is sustainable. I mean really, going from 400 calories to boxes of take out? Instead of sitting around watching videos on the internet about dieting, why not get some exercise, even if its in his shut in apartment? Does he really think he can go his whole life cut off from his friends and family and not have a job if that is the only thing that could keep him at his goal weight?
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| Vegetarian | would you have done this? | Aug 30 2008 23:25 (UTC) |
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Almost no animal rights activists do things like that. I'm highly surprised your friend would and even more surprised that someone would not get caught. Sounds like a bunch of bs to me. If your store were being harassed by confrontational group of people, would you leave the area unattended? Perhaps she's making the whole thing up? Perhaps she could learn a thing or two about effective forms of activism. There are things like the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act that make property destruction a particularly unwise choice. |
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| Vegetarian | Thinking of becoming vegan | Aug 30 2008 21:22 (UTC) |
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peta2 has some great resources for vegan college students, including ways to approach your food service department to get vegan meals added to menus and listings of top veg friendly colleges. If you have any trouble with what's availible on campus, I'd check there for some help.
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| Vegetarian | Buying Special Vegetarian Foods is Expensive :( | Aug 30 2008 21:14 (UTC) |
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Also, keep in mind why some of those meat products are so cheap. Do you really want to be eatting $1 packages of hotdogs?
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| Foods | What was the last thing YOU baked? | Aug 30 2008 17:42 (UTC) |
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I baked vegan white chocolate macadamia nut cookies. I have a friend who is serving in Iraq right now and I send him cookies every other week :) |
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| Foods | What food do most people adore but you dispise? | Aug 30 2008 17:39 (UTC) |
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I'm not a picky eater. I am vegan for ethical reasons, but besides that there are a few things I just can't stand (usually traumatic childhood experiences from living with a picky eater). -Cereal, oatmeal. I could maybe tolerate these things in disguised forms (oatmeal cookies come to mind) -Broccoli, smells terrible -Bananas -Coffee -Coconut in any form |
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| Vegetarian | Unsupportive Family: Help? | Aug 27 2008 23:50 (UTC) |
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Honestly, I don't know if hiding it from them is a good long term solution, especially if you eat communal dinners. Instead, why don't you try offering to cook a few veg meals? Or even just help with the veggie side dishes that you DO like. Showing them that you do eat veggies may help with their acceptance. My family was not very supportive when I first went veg. I have relatives who 10 years later still don't get it. I ended up cooking for myself a lot while they were learning to accept that this wasn't just some fad or a phase I was going through. It may help to have a serious conversation about why you want to be veg. Talking to them about veg nutrition and showing them that you will still eat a balanced, healthy diet can go a long way to easing parental fears. For more advice on this type of thing, I would check peta2.com. |
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| Vegetarian | Airplane food-- won't let you choose vegan and low calorie at the same time! | Aug 06 2008 14:41 (UTC) |
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I've noticed that loading "special meals" seems to be a lower priority for some airlines. There have been plenty of times where I requested and confirmed veg*n food (back when there were actually meals on flights) only to learn that in a tight gate turn around my meal somehow didn't make the flight. I would be sure to bring enough food to keep yourself satisfied for that long of a flight, especially since you know the people around you will be eatting. |
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| Vegetarian | vegan survey | Aug 02 2008 16:41 (UTC) |
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1. Favorite non-dairy milk? Silk light plain -Cookies to send to my friend in Iraq
-Stir fry to use up the bok choy I bought
peaches, avocados, Ethiopian food (can't pick a dish, but as a general theme)
peaches, peaches, more peaches, vegan chocolate chips, bread, tofutti cream cheese, carrots for the bunny vegan white chocolate chips, macadamia nut |
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