Posts by when_i_fly_and_look_down

Original Post by chrissy1988:

1. favorite leafy green

--spinach

2. favorite veggie meat product

--home made seitan

3. favorite veggie breakfast food

--eggie toast (egg in a basket)

4. favorite veggie appetizer

--sushi or the tofurky slice roll ups (peppered tofurky slice, better than cream cheese and green onion.)

5. favorite way to have tofu

--marinated and cold on a salad. yumm!

6. favorite beans?

--garbanzo!!!

7. milk preference

--soy or almond

8. favorite veggie recipe

--calzones w/ seitan, veggies and follow your heart vegan mozzerela

9. have you ever had meat? 

--i ate meat until i was 18 or 19. i was vegan for 3 years and have been pescatarian for less than a year.

10. do you occasionally eat meat?

--yes, fish. usually wild alaskan salmon or sardines.

11. if you were a prior meat eater, what food would make you most likely to go back...not saying you ever would actually do it, so i guess your favorite meat.

--i probably wouldn't eat any other meat again. but when i did i used to like buffalo wings from Buffalo Wild Wings in Carribean Jerk sauce. i would eat 15-20 in a sitting. ewww. haha.

12. does your romantic partner [if applicable] meat? if so does it make it hard

--no, my boyfriend's an ovo-vegetarian.

i'm not vegetarian. i'm pescatarian and abstain from dairy. i lurk the vegetarian forum since it's closer to my diet than the regular food forum. :)

breakfast
honey nut cheerios w/ soy milk and banana slices

lunch
half veggie delite on honey oat w/o cheese w/ all the veggies, sweet onion sauce, olive vinaigrette and a bit of honey mustard; small scoop tuna salad; original baked lays; iced tea

***EDIT***

dinner
whole wheat calzone w/ spinach, crumbled vegan boca patty, soy cheese and onion dipped in vegan ranch; diet stez orange flavored sparkling green tea

snack
two slices twelve whole grain bread w/ raw cinnamon honey and light smart balance; herbal tea w/ splash soy milk

Original Post by xdarthveganx:

Original Post by loudashope:

i don't think any of us eat seafood because we don't care about the environment, or because we're unaware of the damage it does. as i said, i try my very best to only eat humanely and sustainably caught seafood, and the amount of seafood i eat is really very little. that's what i am currently able to sustain, at this point in my life. even so, it was an incredibly tough decision to start eating fish again after being veg for almost 5 years. that's just me, i'm sure everyone else has their own reasons, and i'm sure they're all perfectly valid. just the same as plenty of vegetarians have valid reasons for not being vegan.

just because i'm not a vegan doesn't mean i'm evil, or misinformed. i could choose to be ignorant and eat a steak with every meal, but i don't. i do the best i can within my means, and i don't appreciate being made to feel like it's not good enough. this isn't an "all or nothing" area - we're all contributing, whether we go all the way or not.

 

This is the biggest damn list of boohoo feel bad for me excuses I have ever heard. 

Here you are talking about your "tough decision" to begin consuming fish, when these animals go through absolute hell, not to mention our oceans and fish populations are on the verge of collapse.

You do realize that "humane, sustainable fish" is purely a marketing ploy to ease your guilt, dont you?

Do you understand the meaning of "sustainability"? It means, by all practical purposes that you can continue doing something forever. As in, you do not take more from the land then it can provide for you. Seeing as we have a current world population of 6.7 billion, eating any sort of flesh including meat can not and will not be sustainable. As in, if every person lived and ate the way you did we would need multiple planets in order to make that lifestyle "sustainable" by definition.

You either make an ethical decision to stop exploiting animals and the earth, or you don't and have to face the consequences of being responsible for that decision. No free passes here.

alright. i tried to ignore you for a while because you sound like an arrogant jerk and i usually try to avoid conversations with such people. but you have no right to say that what loudashope is saying is boohoo. she is saying what she thinks and feels and it seems to me that she is genuine in her belief.

it's people like you that i have a problem with. i was vegan for 3 years. i went vegan when i got into punk/hardcore. i'm sure that is something that you can relate to. i watched all the factory farming videos and put the time into researching it and i committed to it for 3 years of my life.

now, i'm sure you've probably been vegan for much longer and are probably level 99 by now and have immunity to all omnivore attacks against you but you should really hear me out.

i tried really hard to eat a healthy vegan diet within my income limitations. after 3 years i was deficient in iron, b-12, selenium, protein and calcium. that's even after eating clean, balanced and taking a multi-vitamin and drinking protein shakes. so i started eating fish and eggs. it was weird at first but it was something i really looked into and i know has been great for my health. i feel alive again.

i'm not going to get into an arguement about why these foods are great and nutritionally packed. i'm not going to get into an arguement about if you believe we're omnivores or not. what i am going to say is that i did this for my health and people like you need to respect that.

why preach to someone who does not support factory farms and tries to catch their own fish?? because they are killing a fish? go yell at a bear, they eat way more fish. there are plenty of animals (lions, dogs, cats, exc...) that kill and eat other animals. is it only murder when we do it or should they be put on trial too?

i guess what i am really trying to say is that you should be vegan because that's clearly what you want. but you aren't helping your cause when you act elitest about it. no one is going to listen to you if you act like a snob. and that hurts the cause you say that you care so much about.

also you need to realize that not everyone wants to be a vegetarian or vegan but there are people (who choose to eat meat because they believe that is what is most natural for them as omnivores) who would be all about boycotting factory farmed meat or fish that has been caught by dragging nets across the ocean floor or that produces by-catch. maybe you could encourage them to do that instead of giving the whole meat is murder lecture.

there aren't any sort of passes of any type, free, payed for or earned. you don't get a pass by being vegan. we're all sharing the same planet and if it goes to crap no one is going to save you for good behavior. so i'd recommend trying to be more open minded so that you could maybe try some genuine communication and actually work towards achieving something positive.

I already posted my plan for today in the regular 'what did you eat today?' thread but it fell through. so here is the real deal.

breakfast
organic/free range poached egg; strawberries; grapefruit juice w/ added calcium

lunch
tofu and veggie stir fry w/ jasmine rice; two light beers; angel food cake w/ fresh peach slices and so delicious vanilla soy ice cream

dinner
vegetable soup; rosemary and olive oil triscuits; sardines

my tummy was pretty upset from dessert i think. so dinner was unwanted but forced. :(

Original Post by merylwhite1:

Original Post by ktbabyxoxo:

... Know I eat seaafood but still considered myself a vegetarian...

....and i never knew there were so many types of vegetarians....

Firstly, how the heck could you eat fish and still think you were vegetarian? It's flesh, right?

Secondly, you're not just a different type of vegetarian if you're a pescatarian. You're not vegetarian at all.

I'm not a vegetarian but it irks me when people who don't eat red meat but eat either chicken or fish (or both) say their vegetarian. If you eat meat, you ain't.

And to whoever said eating salmon might have saved her life - whaaa? Vegetarianism can be as unhealthy or as healthy as any other kind of diet. Like an omnivorous diet, it is what you make it.

i think she was very young when she made this decision. it could be confusing for someone so young. i remember thinking a lot more ridiculous things than that when i was her age.

Original Post by katesorad:

I don't really agree with pescatarianism being anything close to vegetarianism.  The whole point of being a vegetarian or a vegan is to not eat anything with a face or heart or feelings.  I guess some people do it more for health reasons, but as far as I go, I can't ever see myself eating anything that I know has feelings.  It would be like eating my husband, which would be gross.

That's YOUR whole point. other people have other reasons. it is close to vegetarian but not the same as pescatrians eat fish while vegetarians do not.

here's the deal. women's sizing is always crazy. i can be a size 1 in one brand and 5 in another.

Ambercrombie & Fitch is well known for marking clothes a bit smaller. Therefore more girls want to shop there and pay an extra $10-30 for an article of clothing because they can say they are a 0 or a 00 when actually they are probably a 2 or something like that.

it's crazy. i wish women's clothing would just be like men's and use actually inch measurements (in your case cm). it would make everything so much easier.

breakfast
poached egg; strawberries; grapefruit juice; green tea

lunch
tba

snack
banana

dinner
spinach salad w/ baked wild alaskan salmon and low fat ginger sesame dressing

snack
hot herbal tea w/ splash of soy

of all the meat replacer slices tofurky are my favorite. i like peppered the most though. usually i don't consume many meat replacers though. i usually stick to marinated tofu, seitan and tempeh. or i'll make my own black bean burgers.

i don't think that's too young at all.

breakfast
slice organic sprouted grain bread w/ organic peanut butter; organic apple; chai tea w/ agave nectar and organic soy milk

snack
broccoli and red pepper hummus

lunch
vegetarian sushi rolls; green tea

dinner
whole grain rotini w/ spinach, tofu, black olive, onion and broccoli (leftovers)

i'm going to the orchestra today. they are playing the music to the final fantasy game series. i'm very excited.

breakfast
hot oat bran w/ organic sunflower butter and organic high protein soy milk; vanilla chai tea

lunch
six inch veggie delite on nine grain honey oat w/ cucumber, tomato, green pepper, red onion, jalapeno, banana pepper, black olive and spicy brown mustard; baked lays

dinner
organic apple slices dipped in strawberry soy yogurt; pico de gallo bean and rice chips w/ red pepper hummus; organic dark chocolate covered almonds

snack
couple ales

lala- no problem.

breakfast
hot oat bran cereal w/ light soy milk; free range organic poached egg; grapes; fair trade organic coffee w/ light soy milk

lunch
vegan boca patty on whole grain honey oat bread w/ tomato, spinach, red onion, avocado and organic horseradish mustard; handful mixed roasted peanuts and almonds; steamed cauliflower; steamed asparagus

dinner
whole wheat tortilla w/ spinach, tomato, red onion, avocado and fat free refried beans; orange juice

today was pretty delicious. :)

I hope no one minds that I started the new one.

breakfast
two free range organic scrambled eggs; slice whole wheat toast w/ organic sunflower butter; orange juice; half cup coffee w/ organic unsweetened soy milk

snack
baked lays

lunch
low sodium vegetable soup; rosemary and olive oil triscuits; grapes; half cup coffee w/ organic unsweetened soy milk

dinner
big spinach salad w/ tomato, avocado, red onion, black olive and home made soy ginger dressing

snack
slice banana bread

yesterday-

breakfast
slice whole wheat toast w/ smart balance and organic apricot spread; strawberry banana soy yogurt; coffee w/ organic unsweetened soy milk

lunch
six inch veggie delite on honey oat w/ lettuce, tomato, onion, cucumber, green pepper, black olives and honey mustard; large peeled carrot; apple carrot juice

snack
whole grain mixed berry bar; strawberry banana soy yogurt

dinner
seitan and veggie fried brown rice; sparkling apple cranberry juice

today-

breakfast
oat bran cereal w/ organic apricot spread, organic unsweetened soy milk and organic flax; free range organic poached egg; cup hot vanilla caramel black tea

lunch
six inch veggie delight on nine grain w/ lettuce, cucumber, tomato, onion, black olives, basil and oregeno and spicy brown mustard

snack
banana strawberry soy yogurt

dinner
whole grain rotini w/ all natural basil and olive oil pasta sauce, spinach and lots of garlic; steamed cauliflower; apple carrot juice