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| Weight Gain | to increase, or not to increase? | Nov 14 2009 10:51 (UTC) |
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Oh honey..yes you must increase, of course you must. I know you can get to 2500 by Sunday, you've already made leaps and bounds..being there will not do you any harm in the slightest, in fact it will be one step closer to improving your metabolism, vital organs and health in general! Go Maya! |
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| Foods | spinoff from food survey - nutella and peanut butter | Oct 31 2009 23:29 (UTC) |
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This is one of my favourite combinations! Amazing with bananas, amazing with strawbs, amazing mixed in yogurt..I also like to spread wholemeal pita bread with a layer of peanut butter, spread some mashed up banana slices over it, spread a layer of nutella over it, and spread some more mashed banana slices, and then heat it up. Then I wrap it up and BAM, a yummy crepe like meal! |
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| Health & Support | Chicken cravings. | Oct 30 2009 21:59 (UTC) |
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Yepyep, that makes perfect sense Chrissy. Personaltrainer, that's good to hear..but did you experience anything weird when eating meat again? I see your point luhluhlovesongs, and that's why I posted this thread in the first place - to see if there was anything else I could do. I never craved any meat at all until the past month or so, and if I was going to run and have some chicken because I used to love it, I'd have definitely done so by now. It's not that I missed the chicken as soon as I cut it out, it's that I've been getting very strong cravings for it now. And no, I don't want to deprive myself of it if my body is craving it this badly. I've reached a point where I can actually listen to my body and give it what it needs, and I do not want to stop. I am hesitant about eating chicken because of my beliefs, but I have to say that I'm not completely sure I became a vegetarian for my beliefs - since I was in a very bad place 6 months ago. I mean, before that I was still passionate about animal rights, but without placing the restriction of cutting out chicken from my diet. I eat a great deal of veggie products high in protein but my craving only intensifies daily. You didn't come off bitchy in the slightest and I appreciate your advice. |
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| Health & Support | Chicken cravings. | Oct 30 2009 03:16 (UTC) |
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Yes and yes. Nando's is just up the street and my mum makes the chicken breasts weekly. Also, I told her I'm going to start eating it again and she said we'll get smaller portions so I can cook them for myself during the day for lunch. By the way, do you think I'll get any sort of..reaction to eating meat again? I say this because I've heard of people getting sick after reintroducing meat. |
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| Health & Support | Chicken cravings. | Oct 30 2009 03:08 (UTC) |
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Oooh! Ooh! My favourite restaurant before I turned vegetarian was Nando's, I think I've told you about it..it specialises in the most amazing grilled, marinated spicy chicken ever. I'll get myself a grilled chicken wrap from there, and something else that'll satisfy this craving will be my mum's baked chicken breast..it's so chewy and filling. Yumm..*mouth waters* haha. |
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| Health & Support | Chicken cravings. | Oct 30 2009 02:59 (UTC) |
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I was low in iron last time I was tested, which was sometime last year I think.. But you know what? You're totally right. I obviously want it for some reason or another, so I shouldn't deny myself of it. Thanks Chrissy. |
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| Fitness | Burpee HIIT! | Oct 25 2009 05:28 (UTC) |
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Sorry to hijack the thread, but does anyone have any idea roughly how many calories burpees actually burn? I always have trouble logging them. |
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| Health & Support | a good weight for me? | Oct 24 2009 01:17 (UTC) |
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I would constantly rationalise that because I'm at a very small height and small boned (right under 4'10 actually), I needed to be at a very small weight. But I can now see that underweight is not where my body wanted me to be at, and trying to cling to that belief only strengthened my ED. I've now reached a BMI of 20.1, and I can honestly say that I am NOT big in the slightest. In fact, I'm still small..but a whole lot better and healthier looking. Those girls that are at low weights and supposedly recovered are NOT..what would happen if they were to somehow gain some pounds? There is a strong possibility that they would panic because they got used to thinking their still low weights were healthy, and they became used to seeing themselves that way. And BAM, they would slip back just like that. You don't want that, do you? If you get to a healthy BMI you'll be able to work on accepting your body for what it is, and seeing that it's okay to be a normal weight. Your highest weight may have been 95.5, but you're older now and as we get older and become women, we're meant to weigh more..our breasts grow, our hips may widen in order to accomodate babies later on. I think the best thing for you is to gain to a BMI of 20. Yes, it's scary and seems impossible, For so long I tried to avoid getting there, or staying there. But now that I'm here it's actually okay. I'm still me, I'm still the same person. I'm just better off in so many ways. To make this seem less daunting you could break it up into goal weights along the way. Eventually your weight does settle at the weight it's meant to be at, whether that is a BMI of 19 or a BMI of 21. You'll still be slim at a BMI of 20, but after being there for a while you'll feel so much better. And I'm sure you'll radiate health and happiness. =) |
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| Health & Support | Two Weeks of Bloating | Oct 22 2009 10:15 (UTC) |
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Hi, for the majority of this year I lost my period, but it came back recently as I've gained to a healthy weight. Anyway, the exact same thing happened to me. About a week before I got it, I retained water just like you and I did all the following week while I had it. Some women retain water before only for it to disappear by the time it arrives, others retain even while they're menstruating. It's totally normal but if you want to reduce it, I'd take hedgren's advice and reduce the amount of sodium heavy processed foods you're eating. It sucks but hey, that's life! |
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| Fitness | Burpee HIIT! | Oct 21 2009 11:01 (UTC) |
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themassivetribulation; I think it's a good idea to set out a number of burpees and aim for a specific time frame to do them in..so you're on the right track! Ohh don't worry about being slow, they're still working! =) Also, as time goes on you'll definitely improve the speed. As for what I do after doing a set, it varies. Sometimes I'll do a quick shuttle run, sometimes I'll crank out some sit ups or push ups, other times I'll do some jumping jacks..anything to keep the heart rate up. |
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| Health & Support | increasing calories...whats holding me back? | Oct 20 2009 00:54 (UTC) |
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It most definitely is time for an increase. And it's very clear you care a great deal for your sister and have a very close bond with her..but in this situation, you really need to put yourself and your health and your needs first. You won't be the "fat one" if you gain to a healthy weight - you will be just that - healthy. Think about the benefits that come with being at a higher weight - glowing skin, healthy hair, strong legs that can take you places, a strong heart that will ensure you'll be able to live life to its fullest. You'll also be a whole lot better off mentally. Your thoughts will be clearer and you'll be better able to distinguish rational thoughts from irrational, ED driven thoughts. You know what you're supposed to do, do it and then you'll realise that nothing drastic will happen - you'll only be another step closer to achieving health. You've gained on 2000 (and a small amount if you really think about it, especially in the space of almost a month) because you were eating a whole lot less previously. I know you know this. Your weight gain has halted now and you now need to increase. Start today. Just take the plunge, it'll be worth it. You can do this. You're going to be able to maintain at 2000 like you did before the relapse. Hypothetically if you were to not increase, you'd only remain unhappy and driven by this piece of crap ED. Good luck! |
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| Weight Gain | Gaining weigh-ins!! | Oct 19 2009 03:20 (UTC) |
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Height: 146cm Weight: 42.8 kgs ..I've reached a BMI of 20.1, yay! =D And my period is back, so I must be doing something right. Myvalentinesquest: You did the right thing in bumping above 3000 due to not gaining at the previous weigh in. Odds are, you body is NOT as big as you're perceiving it to be..in fact, that's pretty damn impossible to weigh that little and be that big. Also, you recently upped your cals and so your body will be holding onto the extra food for a little bit. Water retention will cause the stomach and even the legs to bloat temporarily. It happened to me, it happens to many..but it does go away, that I can promise! You're gaining muscle as well as fat because your body lost both when you were losing the weight. And at your next weigh in, you may even find the weight gain slows down after getting used to the up in calories. But seriously..the fact that you upped is such a great feat, and it only means you'll get to goal quicker. Keep up the good work! |
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| Fitness | Burpee HIIT! | Oct 19 2009 02:49 (UTC) |
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Burpees are these suckers. A quick, but incredibly tough and effective bodyweight exercise. And to the OP, good luck! I do Burpee HIIT 3 times a week and I love it. =) |
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| Maintaining | 1,000 extra, oh no!! | Oct 13 2009 23:39 (UTC) |
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Hey, I did the exact same thing as you did last night. I was out with a friend for dinner and my dinner and dessert totalled to a little more than I usually have - around 1000 over just like you. I too am in recovery from an eating disorder, but I am now at a healthy weight. And today, I woke up hungry despite eating more than usual last night, so I had a nice big breakfast. For the rest of the day, I am going to eat as I normally do and listen to my body no matter what. The point I'm trying to make is that I am no longer underweight, yet I still have days where I go over my usual intake - just like pilgrimdude said, this is actually important to do once in a while. You CAN indulge once in a while and nothing horrible will happen. We all have days like this. But I do not restrict the next day. That is destructive and unnecessary. I simply move on and go on with my life. If anything, you need to be eating 1000 calories over EVERYDAY, as you are underweight and highly active. It is clear by your anxiety that the eating disordered side of you is stronger than your rational side. Please, listen to Chrissy and cut down the exercise and eat to gain. Things will only get worse if you don't, trust me. |
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| Weight Gain | Update | Sep 30 2009 01:00 (UTC) |
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Yay! Awesome job. |
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| Weight Gain | Gaining weigh-ins!! | Sep 30 2009 00:39 (UTC) |
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Woooo Helen! Well done, you're kickin ass! =) Keep up the great work! Height: 146cm Starting weight (this time): 35kg Current weight: 41kg =) |
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| Health & Support | How did you challenge your ED today? | Sep 30 2009 00:34 (UTC) |
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Last week was the week of my birthday, and I went out to dinner and ate a massive meal, and even picked at my friend's stuff as well. Then we got icecream, and I got a waffle cone with three big scoops of ice cream - one was peanut butter flavoured and oh my lord, was it amazing. Then the next day I had a huge slice of my birthday cake - chocolate mousse cake. I really wanted it, I was hungry for it so I had it. Then that weekend I shared some greasy (but good) cheese pizza with my friends, before going out and drinking. I had a few drinks and was fine, the cheese pizza was useful in fueling me enough to be able to drink a little. =) THEEEEEEN yesterday I went out with friends for coffee, but it was a hot day so we got ice cream instead. Completely impromptu, but I did it. And in the past, after having all these spontaneous moments with food and especially after eating the ice cream, I'd freak out...but I haven't =) Keep up the great work everyone! |
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| Health & Support | Yet another cry for help. | Sep 07 2009 12:20 (UTC) |
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Okay, so it's been 1 week and 2 days since purging. I've upped my intake and I'm getting roughly between 2500-3000 calories daily. And I credit everyone on this thread for helping me, thank you so much for your support. But ever since upping my calories and stopping the purging, I feel like I'm clinging to my exercise as permission to eat more. I am anxious that I'm letting it spiral into an even WORSE obsession. I mean, it's taken 5 years almost to cut out the restricting and purging..the obsessive exercise started last year, so what..will THIS take me another five years to combat?! I know it's as simple as cutting out what I'm doing altogether, but at the same time it's not so simple. I want to cut down to something that's gentle yet still releases the feel good feeling that comes with exercise but does not leave my body feeling tense, my mind exhausted and racing. But my distorted mind has no idea how much to cut down. Argh, two steps forward, one step back. |
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| Health & Support | scared | Sep 07 2009 12:10 (UTC) |
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Helen, what everyone above me has said is on the money. You have NOT left it too late to repair things, I promise you. It's possible to repair your body so long as you continue on the path you're on. It's normal to feel stressed and scared about this but I have faith you will keep moving forward. But faith from me and everyone else is not enough - you need to have faith in YOURSELF. You're so kind and supportive and you need to use those beautiful qualities to help yourself. Would you tell any of us that it's too late to get better, that we don't need to change? No, I'm fairly sure you wouldn't. So you need to learn to be as kind to yourself as you are to everyone else. You deserve everything you're working towards. Recovery is scary as hell, it really is..but if you think about it, down the track, won't it all be worth it? You are so much more than this ED, you have goals to achieve, people to meet and places to see, all things a part of life that you won't be able to experience if you believe that you do not need to change. But you know what, you have changed. You actually are angry at what has happened in the past and you really want to reverse the damage. And this is a big fat F-U to that tragic disease, just as Chrissy said, that has taken your life away..but really cannot continue to. I hope I made a fraction of sense here, all my thoughts just came tumbling out which led to a usual ramble of mine! Keeping you in my thoughts! |
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| Weight Gain | Weight Gainers-What Did YOU Eat Today?? 9/3-9/17 | Sep 06 2009 12:03 (UTC) |
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Pittgurl: I'm not sure the brand of veggie burgers I get - Sanitarium, are sold where you are. I'm in Australia. =) Oooh, I've seen Amy's products all over blogs and they look AMAZING. Erin: YAY, another fellow Aussie! =) Where abouts are you, if you don't mind me asking? I'm in Melbourne. BREAKFAST: Bagel with slice of cheese and hummus; Black coffee = 440 ( I am going to change this up tomorrow, I'm becoming too attached to this brekky!) LUNCH: Wholemeal wrap with two slices of melted cheese, hot sauce and hummus; Spinach salad with more hummus, vinegar and marinated mushrooms; Vege chips; Glass of orange juice = 670 SNACK: Peanut butter and honey sandwich on toasted multigrain bread; Glass of milk = 470 DINNER: Two soy fillets pan fried with olive oil and with a slice of cheese melted over both (I'm so cheesy today - 4 slices of cheese?!); Potatoes baked in olive oil with roasted veggies (carrots, peas etc); Marinated mushrooms; Tzatziki = 650 SNACK: 3 Weetbix with milk with half a banana, half a box of sultanas and a spoonful of Nutella = 390 = 2620 |
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| Weight Gain | Weight Gainers-What Did YOU Eat Today?? 9/3-9/17 | Sep 05 2009 12:35 (UTC) |
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Eringo: Remember, when you're moving around all day, eating back what you've burnt and then some is important. Otherwise, it all sounds yummy! I love Time Outs..are you in Australia too? =) Bluidechic: HAPPY BIRTHDAY FOR YESTERDAY! And well done on conquering the fear foods and on hitting 3000! So you bloody SHOULD lick the beater. That just makes the cake eating experience all the more tantalising..like a little "preview" of what's to come, ha. Helen: You're doing great so far. Perhaps you can begin with switching around when you eat the sandwich, when you eat the meat and veg, etc? But like you said, you are progressing which is the main thing right now. Keep it up! Chrissy: You're always so full of encouragement and support. =) Thank you and seeing how far you've come also serves as an inspiration. BREAKFAST: Bagel with tablespoon cream cheese and slice of cheese; Black coffee = 440 LUNCH: Wrap with veggie burger and hummus; Baby carrots and more hummus for dipping; Sweet potato rounds; Glass of milk = 690 SNACK: Natural yogurt with a small banana chopped into slices, dried apricots and honey = 260 DINNER: Veggie burger with salad and spicy mayo in a bun from Nando's; two handfuls of Vita Weat grain snacks with a tablespoon of semidried tomato dip = 700 SNACK: Peanut butter sandwich (toasted multigrain bread); Glass of milk with 4 teaspoons of Milo = 540 = 2630 |
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| Weight Gain | Weight Gainers-What Did YOU Eat Today?? 9/3-9/17 | Sep 03 2009 23:57 (UTC) |
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Agru: I was going by the bakery's website..it listed the pizza at about 400 cals. That plus the chips, dip and OJ added up to 735. That said though, I think I again DID overestimate the chips. Ugh, how stupid of me. You're so right, why take a step back when I could be taking 2 forward? Thank you for that. Zeb: Good job on managing to pack it all in despite the busy schedule. Our Banana oatmeal pancakes sound sooo good! So far.. BREAKFAST: Bagel with semdried tomato dip and slice of cheese; black coffee = 430 SNACK: Cashews; Box of sultanas = 330 |
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| Weight Gain | Weight Gainers-What Did YOU Eat Today?? 9/3-9/17 | Sep 03 2009 13:08 (UTC) |
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Agru; What you said on the other thread about me overestimating my breakfast..I definitely think you're right. When it comes to things I don't know the calorie count of, I always seem to have this belief that there's a lot of hidden calories..you know, that things were cooked with a lot of oil, etc. Thanks for bringing it up! BREAKFAST: WW English muffin: one side spread with crunchy natural PB, one side spread with Nutella; One small mashed banana on top, honey; Black coffee = 360 LUNCH: Slice of "Mediterranean" pizza from bakery (the size of my head); Handful of salt and vinegar Vegechips with semidried tomato dip; Glass of orange juice = 735 SNACK: 2 and a half rows of Cadbury Dairy Milk chocolate (just because I felt like it DINNER: Bagel with veggie schnitzel and slice of cheese; Spinach salad with marinated mushrooms, cashews, vinegar and hommus; handful of Cheddar and Chives Vita Weat grain snacks = 850 SNACK: Bowl of All-Bran with milk, sultanas and a tablespoon of crunchy natural PB = 380 = 2725 |
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| Weight Gain | Weight GAINERS- what did YOU eat today? August 19 to September 2nd | Sep 02 2009 13:25 (UTC) |
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Liney; Pumpkin hummus? I'm intrigued! BREAKFAST: (My friends and I went out for a friend's birthday..I think I did alright LUNCH: Poppyseed bagel with a tablespoon of crunchy natural PB, Nutella, and honey; Glass of milk with Milo = 630 SNACK: Medium banana and a Pistachio Larabar = 320 DINNER: 4 mini falafel balls; Roast potatoes; Spinach salad with marinated mushrooms, vinegar, hummus and cashews = 500 SNACK: Wholemeal English muffin with two tablespoons of crunchy natural PB = 400 = 2550 |
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| Weight Gain | Weight GAINERS- what did YOU eat today? August 19 to September 2nd | Sep 01 2009 10:54 (UTC) |
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Thanks for the welcomes everyone! gooby; Well done on allowing yourself a treat (the oreos I assume? YUMMEH BREAKFAST: WW English muffin: one side spread with crunchy natural PB, one side spread with Nutella; One medium mashed banana on top, honey; Black coffee = 380 SNACK: Cashews and dried apricots = 240 LUNCH: Poppyseed bagel with a veggie burger, hot sauce and slice of cheese; Carrots and hummus; Handful of cheese and chive grain crackers; Glass of milk = 800 SNACK: Fruit salad with half a banana, strawberries, sultanas, honey and Nutella = 170 DINNER: Veggie schnitzel with slice of cheese melted on top; Spinach salad with sweet chili and lime sauce, vinegar, semidried tomato dip, marinated mushrooms and cashews = 570 SNACK: 3 Weetbix with milk and a tablespoon of crunchy natural PB = 340 = 2500 |
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| Health & Support | Yet another cry for help. | Aug 31 2009 10:35 (UTC) |
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Blueberry, that is really great to hear. I don't know where I get that skewed idea from, honestly. It's good to know that isn't reality. =) Also, keep up the great work with your own recovery, I've seen some of your posts on the weight gain forum! |
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| Weight Gain | goals | Aug 31 2009 04:10 (UTC) |
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I love this! I want to be able to enjoy Christmas relatively ED free. Without worrying about the food, without worrying about how I look, without any ED behaviours present. I want to enjoy the time with my family and enjoy the food, because that's how it was when I was young. I want to be at a healthy weight with my periods back and my clothes fitting, and my skin glowing and my hair no longer limp and dry..thick and shiny again! I want to also be OKAY with the weight my body will be by then. And I want to have found a good job, be able to enjoy summer (I'm in Australia), and have had some yummy cocktails. =) |
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| Weight Gain | Weight GAINERS- what did YOU eat today? August 19 to September 2nd | Aug 31 2009 02:45 (UTC) |
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Hi guys, I've been lurking on this thread for a couple of weeks now, "wishing" I could join you all. Then I thought, why wish when I can do? I've been on the previous Weight Gainers: what did you eat today? thread twice before, and I'm determined to get to a healthier weight the right way and stay there. 5 years of a life taken over by ED has been hell, I no longer want this in my life. I'm so scared right now, eating this amount and not reacting with a compensatory behaviour, and I'm retaining a lot of water right now, but it's okay. It's worth it. And can I just say how fantastic everyone is doing? You've all been a great help, albeit subconsciously, and Agru: thanks for making this thread and keeping everyone in line, so to speak. =) Yesterday's food: BREAKFAST: WW English muffin: one side spread with crunchy natural PB, one side spread with Nutella; One medium mashed banana on top, honey; Black coffee = 380 LUNCH: 4 small slices of my grandma's vegetarian pizza with hot sauce on top (I'm a massive hot sauce addict SNACK: Natural plain yogurt with honey and sultanas; Handful of cashews = 300 DINNER: Parents got fish and chips..I'm a vegetarian but I took all the carbilicious things (!) and added some stuff.. 2 potato cakes; chips; 2 mini falafel balls; Tartare sauce, vinegar and semidried tomato dip for the chips = 730 DESSERT: 2 Kit-Kat chocolate fingers; Small handful of Ritz crackers; This mini cake bar thing with chocolate sponge and chocolate cream = 370 SNACK: 1 small banana; Glass of orange juice; Row of Lindt chocolate = 470 = 2950 (Oh my..I can do this. I can do this.) So far today: BREAKFAST: 1 poppyseed bagel spread with hummus and a slice of cheese; Black coffee = 430 |
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| Health & Support | Yet another cry for help. | Aug 31 2009 02:00 (UTC) |
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Hi guys, the 1500-1600 increase was just for the first day I stopped purging..I was worried if I increased higher than that that my body would go into shock or something. Yesterday I increased again, I logged everything at the end of the day and it ended up being 3000ish. I am already feeling the edema, my stomach and legs and face are retaining so much water, but it's totally expected as you've all said so that's calmed me a bit. Today will be the same, no low calorie amounts because I know that I need to replenish my insides as well as gain weight. Abbi you're an inspiration for increasing to 3000 from such a low amount, and pushing through despite the feelings. If you can do it I can do it, right? And Helen thank you so much for your kind words, you too are inspiring...you've made such leaps and will continue to, I know it. Thank you all |
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| Health & Support | Yet another cry for help. | Aug 30 2009 04:40 (UTC) |
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I'm sorry for upsetting you and thanks for your support. That's horrible to hear about your friend, and it is exactly the reason I am stopping this once and for all. I simply cannot afford to continue the way I was. That and I want to be able to live my life, I don't want my teeth falling out and damaged, I want to be able to think about things other than food and the way I look and failing myself. It's been almost 2 days now that I've gone purge free. It is such a habit that my body seems to almost ready itself to purge but I haven't. |
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Keep up the good work, you need lots of fuel for that weight training!
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