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The Lounge who else is up waaay too late tonight Feb 10 2009
06:41 (UTC)
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So drunk I can barely type...my arms are tired....need to get up at 5:00AM to run.

First I gott figure out how many calkories are ubf a half a fifrth.

The Lounge Should men never marry? Jan 31 2009
21:13 (UTC)
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Original Post by octo-luv:

caloriecat, im sorry your marriage isn't working. 

I never said that.

And outside a physically or sexually abusive situation, I would argue that divorce certainly is the worst thing that could happen to children.

The Lounge Should men never marry? Jan 31 2009
00:54 (UTC)
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...also...

the reason I don't like the "skyscraper analogy" doesn't make sense because you're not "building" anything.  You're not taking a pile of raw materials and building emerald city.  It's almost the reverse.

You have a skyscraper, slowly pieces fall off of it.  Pretty soon you gotta do some repairs.  If the building was sound when it was built, less problems, less repairs needed.  If it was built on sand and out of cruddy raw materials, you gotta do a lot of work all the time to keep it standing.

But the trick is...you never really know if it's built on sand or out of cruddy raw materials or not.  People always "think" they do.  I've almost vomited hearing people talk about how they've been married for 1 year and their relationship is perfect because they never had sex before marriage or they've been going out since high school or whatever.  It doesn't matter....it's just an illusion.  Time will tell. 

The guy that never had sex until marriage, 3 years later starts to wish he'd had more experiences...prettys soon is being seduced by the high school girl working at the Coffee Beanery at the mall...and she's not good lookin...but she's "different" than his wife.  And the couple that never dated anyone else since high school...suddenly one of them meets someone that IS better...and then they start to wonder...pretty soon they're spending their lunch hours having sex with the guy/gal that works in the same office building.

There's no "secret"...there's no "magic pill" or specified # of hours of therepy.  It's a crapshoot.  If ya work at it, ya survive.  If ya have no other options, ya survive.  But no matter how hard you are willing to work or how few options you have...there's always the chance that the other person gives up or has options you didn't know about.

The Lounge Should men never marry? Jan 31 2009
00:43 (UTC)
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Even better analogy (analogy superbowl)...

Marriage is like your job...doesn't matter what job.  At first, you're pretty excited because it's a new job and you're making better money than your last job.  And there's certain cool things about it, maybe they buy you a new office chair, got a sweet computer monitor, new pens...whatever.

Then, after a year or so...you're sort of sick of it.  But you remember alot of the cruddy stuff about the job you had a couple years ago or being unemployed...so you still have some motivation.

Then you're there for 5 years.  The job has gotten boring...but you find ways o spice it up.  You still have dillusions about promotions and raises and are starting to see some 401k money grow.

Then you're there 10-15 years.  You know everyone....they all know you.  You could walk around the office blindfolded without running into anything.  Your job is boring, you are starting to think you'll never be promoted and you thnk back to your previous jobs and all you can remember are the really cool things you used to be able to do.

Pretty soon...you're there 20-30 years.  You've been promoted...you don't really "like" your job...but you're comfortable.  You have some money put away...makin a decent salary.  It's high stress and half the time you want to jump out a window, but you got a kid in college...so you just grnd it out.

Pretty soon, it's almost retirement time.  You want to just walk out and flip everyone the bird...but what's the point?  You might as well stick it out until the party and where you can start collecting that sweet retirement dough.

The Lounge Should men never marry? Jan 31 2009
00:31 (UTC)
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Why isn't Fortius talking about Kate Hudson and her Mom (Oooo...there's a fantasy!)? 

All this child support/divorce talk is making me depressed.  Some of us married folks would rather not think about it.  Fortunately, neither me nor my wife can afford a divorce right now...so we're set.  Marital bliss by default I guess.

And marriage is not like a friggin skyscraper Moto!  Geez.  It's like a swamp.  At first, it's sort of fun because you discover all kinds of cool stuff (like weird frogs and tires and broken coolers).  And it's awesome fun to ride your motorcycle through it on a hot day until it stalls out. 

But then, after you have your fun for awhile.  You realize the swamp mud sort of smells bad and you got leeches on ya and now your motorcycle is broken because you got water in the engine.

The Lounge Should men never marry? Jan 31 2009
00:22 (UTC)
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Original Post by hatamoto:

Kate's cute as a button with an awesome smile, but Goldie's got a better rack.

 

 Yeah.  But she has a heine the size of New Mexico.  I guess if you're into ta-tas...Kate isn't a great example.  And actually, if you're a "chest" man...age probably doesn't matter as much either because old chicks actually usually have much larger endowment.  But then again, so do the very obese...so I guess you have to find where you cutoff the inner desire to motorboat your way to bliss.

The Lounge Should men never marry? Jan 30 2009
05:33 (UTC)
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Wait a minute...how did this go from marriage to feminism.

Fortius, leave the chicks alone.  Remember the power of the girl network.  You're going to find a gal you really want to bang and get back to her room and there's going to be a wanted poster on her wall with your picture on it...and not "wanted" in that way.  

What do us guys do on the 3 days we're not living the porn star life?  Play video games, watch TV, sports, regular stuff.  You can't keep up that lifestyle 24/7...too much chaffing.

And as to the arguement that people get better looking with age because someone knows a few people and saw this one lady on a TV commercial...STATISTICS people...STATISTCS.  For every one lady thats doable at 50, there are at least 10-1000 that aren't.  It's not a statistical impossibility, it's a statistical improbability.  Now, do men age better?  I guess...but I chalk that up to the fact that men don't actually give birth to children.  It's unfortunate that looks are wasted on the young, but it's simply a matter of evolution that the opposite sexes are at their most attractive level during their period of greatest reproductive ability.  Not saying I'd kick Goldie Hawn out of bed...just saying I'd be about 2000 times happier to do her daughter.

Wait...jblar wears pajammas to bed??  SONUVa...there goes fantasies #7 and 18.

The Lounge Should men never marry? Jan 26 2009
21:55 (UTC)
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Original Post by fortius:

The truth of just cynical fiction?

This video is frightening, that is all I have to say. The most terrifying thing about it is that from my conversations with divorced men, this video isn't that far from the truth.

How have things become like this? This doesn't seem to provide a very strong incentive for people to marry. 

Fort- (jblar skip to the end)

It's not about whether they "should", it's whether or not it's avoidable.  At some point, you just realize that it's time.  You find a gal that bugs you less often than most other gals...someone who is at least fairly hot (pre-baby)...and someone that isn't totally repulsed by your hairy, ugly behind.

Then, you look in the mirror, do the math, and realize you ain't gettin any younger.  So...down the aisle you go.  You'll have to give stuff up...so will she...you'll get sick of her, she'll get sick of you....eventually you'll either split up or become parents.

The further along you go, the more sick of each other you'll get...but the more used to each other you'll get.  And with the looks headed downhill (for both) and the age sneaking up...and the kids and joint possessions multiplying, it gets more and more difficult to split up.  Pretty soon you've been married 20 years and peope are coming to you asking for advice on marriage and you're sitting there thinking, "Why the $&%^ are you asking me!?"

So there ya are.  You can say, "It'll never happen to me!"  But it will.  It's unavoidable.  And if you do avoid it...someday, when you're pushing 35 and all your friends are talking about their families...you'll be that sad guy that wishes he had a "family".  But by then, it's too late.  Now you're cruisng the divorcee clubs for gals that are probably past a safe birthing age and are carrying baggage into the relationship the size of a hippo.  Or ya gotta cruise the "single mom" front hoping that you can insert yourself in that toxic environment and not end up killed by her ex-con biker ex-husband and hoping that the kid doesn't view you simply as the loser having sex with his mom.

The bottom line is, marriage and religion and laws and all these things that can be inconvenient for those of us that would love to live the life of a porn star 4 days a week...at the end of the day, they serve a purpose.  Our society could not flourish if it did not have some type of social order and consequence.  At some point, males must be forced into responsibility.

P.S. For JBlar, Everyone has a beatiful soulmate, who is meant to love them for a lifetime...without question...without motive.  And happily ever after, etc..., etc..., etc...  smooch

I have to add that at the end because discussions like these make jblar sad.

 

The Lounge man, wouldnt it just be easier if we pooped out all our extra cals and fats? Jan 26 2009
21:22 (UTC)
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They already have a diet like that.  It's called Atkins.  And you can enhance the amount and ferver of the pooping if you snack on those fake chocolate laxative bars.

The Lounge VS Models Jan 26 2009
06:42 (UTC)
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Original Post by octo-luv:

uh what are you talking about, no one is complaining about the vs models here. not sure what you are trying to bring up?

Ummm....nevermind.  I guess it's an "inside joke"...

The Lounge HELP! (females only) about intimate relationships... Jan 26 2009
06:34 (UTC)
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Original Post by monarch777:

It's kind of jerky to put in the attractiveness of people who wait into this discussion. That's like saying they only waited because they were unattractive...so if this 15 year old might want to wait...you just told her that basically to prove her attractiveness is based upon how young she gets "laid".

And the thread was titled "Females Only"....this poster is only 15...and having grown adult men instructing her how to "get herself ready" borders on really really creepy. I wouldn't want my daughter talked to this way on the internet...or elsewhere...by grown men. I think peaches was right. Stay out of it guys. There are actually, some discussions that you maybe should only read.

I'm saying "sometimes", our choices dictate our actions.  I don't presume that this is the case for the OP, because she obviously has the choice.  I responding to another poster...not the OP.

As to your second point, I somewhat agree with you...however I'm not sexist.  I believe it's a bit creepy for adults of both genders to advise a 15 year old on how it's going to feel when they have intercourse.  It's sad that for women it is considered "advice", but for men it's called "creepy".  

And don't throw the "she asked for women only" defense out there...I can show you a thread made by me that asked for "Men only" responses and I believe of the 75-100 respondants, about 12 of them were men.

The Lounge VS Models Jan 25 2009
21:25 (UTC)
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Original Post by ncxcrnnr:

Perfect bodies. Marisa Miller is hands down one of the most attractive women I've ever seen in my life. And I defy anyone to tell me that having abs like this:

http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Marisa-Mill er_0.jpg

is "unhealthy".

ding ding ding ding

I have Marisa Miler at #7 on my "Hot List"...that earns you a buddy invite.  Congrats.

But I will warn you, this topic was discussed in the past...and apparently, obese women are far more attractive to us men than models.  I guess it's been proven in studies or something and there area lot of women with less than ideal bodies whose husbands actually will testify to preferring larger women.  And then there's the fact that all beautiful women under 140lbs have just been airbrushed.

It's difficult to understand, as a guy rooted in a little thing I like to call "reality", but don't fight it...not here...due to the nature of this website...you'll only become an outcast.  Of course, if you need refuge...you're welcome on the Island.

The Lounge HELP! (females only) about intimate relationships... Jan 25 2009
21:01 (UTC)
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Original Post by international_chick:

hmm... i honestly would not recomend that.

not to rant but;

Couples who remain chaste before marriage report greater satisfaction in their marriages than those who were sexually active before marriage. Their marriages are more stable and more fulfilling. Researchers have even found that couples who did not have sex before marriage report greater sexual fulfillment after marriage than those who had premarital sex.
http://www.foreverfamilies.net/xml/articles/b enefitsofchastity.aspx

in my opinion;

going through calorie-count forums you can find many couples who are having trouble in their marriage due to lack of fulfillment of sexual desires. if you leave it till after you get married, thats when the fun starts, as opposed to that being where it ends.

That's sort of a misleading belief.  First off, you quote a study by a group that has a great desire for that study to be true.  That usually sends up some flags.  Second, there is a strong possibility that those who wait, wait for religious reasons...waiting for religious reasons, implies one is "religious".  Couples that are "religious" have a lower incident of divorce and a lower incident of reporting discontent.  Much of that is attributed to 2 main factors, one being that many "religious" couples don't see "divorce/serperation" as an acceptable option. And two, many of those couple utilize the various support groups and counseling available through the church.

I won't even get into the 3rd and 4th factors relating to how attractive many of those who wait are versus the sexually active population (thus waiting not technically a "choice").

I won't offer advice to the OP because she asked it of females and quite frankly I have never had sex with a 15 year old, a virgin, nor am I intimately aware of how it feels "in there" when a "cherry" pops.  To Lorik and Fortius...I knew as soon as I saw your guy's posts the anti-male backlash would be looming.  Stay strong.

To Peaches, I think the "females only" request is about as legitmate as some similar requests I've made in the past regarding "no trolls" or "members only".  In this type of forum, that is nothing more than wishful thinking.

The Lounge What is the scariest movie you've ever seen? Jan 20 2009
00:43 (UTC)
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Original Post by coffincritter:

Ha, I'm seeing the names of a lot of movies I love, from Children Of The Corn to I Spit On Your Grave (love the outboard motor scene best!). But I have to say they don't scare me. True life scares me,

 Well...in that case, there were a couple scenes in brokeback mountain that made me very uncomfortable.  I was afraid to go camping.

The Lounge What is the scariest movie you've ever seen? Jan 20 2009
00:39 (UTC)
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Original Post by moonikins:

I loved the Blair Witch Project. It was easy to get sucked into feeling that you were watching real people. Plus they never showed any gore which is often more scary.

I loved the first Alien movie.

 Blair Witch...blah.  A few dorks running around  forest with flashlights and a video camera?  That movie just made me want to get them a better video camera and some sedatives.  They were more scared of branches than any people ever.

I'll give you credit for Alien though.  Call me boring, but I'm way more scary of the Alien with corrosive saliva that comes at you at about 90 miles an hour than I am a brush pile and a few flashlight wielding potheads.

The Lounge What is the scariest movie you've ever seen? Jan 19 2009
07:33 (UTC)
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Amityville Horror...the first one.

If we're talking Sci-Fi, Alien and Alien 2 followed by Event Horizon

Scariest Stephen King based movies...

  1. Children of the Corn
  2. The Shining
  3. Cujo
I haven't seen Cujo in a long time.  It might have only been scary because I saw it as a kid.  But Children of the Corn and The Shining were pretty frightening.
As far as the "classical" ones go, the original Nightmare on Elm Street was terrifying due to the concept that he came at you when you fell asleep.  A couple  that I feel are a bit under-rated are In the Mouth of Madness and House on Haunted Hill, they were pretty scary ones.  One that I think is VERY over-rated is Scream...I just thought it was dumb.
I've never seen "Saw" ...I need to rent the first one.
And please don't mention Cloverfield or I'll puke.  Cloverfield was such a horrible movie I was too annoyed by it to be scared.
Most people will say The Exorcist.  I thought it was very scary and it would probably make my top 10...but for alot of people that was sort of a "definitive" part of society...I heard it was so scary that many people had to leave the theatre when it came out.  Others will say Psycho...or the Shining should top the list.  Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Night of the Living Dead, Jaws...those all usually make Top 10-50 lists.

The Lounge Please give me your opinion for a survey Jan 14 2009
19:16 (UTC)
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Original Post by pgeorgian:

 

as the libertarians are so fond of reminding us, free enterprise (especially the tax-free kind) tends to be more cost-effective than government.

 But Libertarians are idiots.  They are socially between extreme right Republicans, Anarchists, and Aristocrats.  They don't like regulation because it cuts into their profits.  However, they also don't like laws, because laws cut into their profits as well.  They would probably be FOR the legalization of any drug use but be Against the regulation of it.  These are people with large ranches that want to pretend they have their own countries....I don't know if I'd base my opinions on their dogma.

The Lounge Sex Jan 13 2009
06:54 (UTC)
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Original Post by heather84clear:

I"m 24...and i've been with 24 people...

on average one a year....i was quite the ho in my toddler years..j/k

Two good posts in a row.  Oh, everyone else must be in all night chatathon.

I don't know if the j/k at the end is necessary.  I can see the arguement, because ya never really know, but really?  

Fortunately with the invention of the internet (Thank You Al Gore), I had sex with 24 people tonight...was able to watch a movie and have a cheeseburger while doing it.  

Okay, back to the island...for real this time.

The Lounge Please give me your opinion for a survey Jan 13 2009
06:43 (UTC)
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Original Post by pgeorgian:
regardless, it's absolutely ridiculous to think that the consumer cost of pot would drop with legalization, regulation, and taxation.  criminal enterprise is expensive, but it doesn't compare to commercial pharmaceuticals.

i can't tell from your post whether you're buying sex or drugs for 75 euro, but if it's the latter, i can tell you that 75 euro would buy one helluva lot of pot in my neighbourhood.

The cost of alcohol after prohibition rose 350%, then fell to 182%, then to 178% shortly before it was repealed.  Illegal drugs will always cost more than over-the-counter drugs.  As soon as it's legalized, people grow their own, farmers make it a cash crop, the price plummets.

The problem with the war on drugs (or alcohol back then) was the cost of enforcement and the people that ultimately profited.  When prohibition ended, organized crime slowly unraveled.  They still had gambling, prostitution, racketeering, extortion, etc... but they lost their cash cow.  The cost to enforce regulations on legal alcohol before prohibition was about 2 million/year.  At the end of prohibition it was over 38 million...not to mention the countless lives lost trying to enforce it.

I don't buy sex or drugs.  But if I had to choose, given the ladies in Amsterdam, I'd take the sex.  Besides, I tried pot a couple times and didn't see the point.  Sex I've also tried and it was a bit more entertaining in most cases.

The Lounge Please give me your opinion for a survey Jan 13 2009
06:22 (UTC)
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Original Post by pgeorgian:

calcat, why on earth would anyone use street heroin if safe, legal opiates were cheaper?

And she comes back with an even "dumber" quote...

What's a safe, legal version of heroin?  And before you consult the desk reference, remember you can't get those without a presciption...to obtain illegally will cost ya.

I still don't understand your arguement.

Pot should be illegal...because kids could get it....but they already can get it...but we shouldn't make it easier...because if they smoke pot, they'll do heroin...even if pot is legal...they'll still do heroin...and cost only matters if you are compaing the exact same drugs, one legal and one not legal...which is absurd, because the same drug can't be legal and illegal.  You want to compare "pot", to "over the counter pot"...which I haven't seen...I don't get it.

I thought you were from the UK?  Weren't you the one going all anti-gun crazy in a previous post?  I must be confusing you with somebody else.

The Lounge Please give me your opinion for a survey Jan 13 2009
01:37 (UTC)
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Original Post by pgeorgian:

caloricat: and that's a valid comparison why?

 Becuase if aspirin were illegal, people wouldn't get a bottle of it $4.64, with $0.65 going to state sales tax.  It would cost them that much or more for one pill.

I don't know how it is in "the islands", but here in the US, buying illegal drugs tends to be more expensive than over-the counter medication.

Oddly enough, that rule does not apply to other illegal things.  For example, illegal "purchases" are often times cheaper, usually because the goods are stolen...like stolen movies, electronics, cars, low level firearms.  And also oddly enough, quality prostitutes are equally expensive whether legal or illegal.  I guess the logic there is that it's only legal in a few places so the price can remain high...I don't know...never actually paid for it.  Just find that odd is all.  Maybe ladies just "hold their value"...I don't know....but it's off topic regardless.  I know that in Amsterdam it's cheaper.  Again, never bought it, but I know the price was 75 Euro...about $150...which is 5-10 times lower than the equivalent in the States.

The Lounge Sex Jan 13 2009
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Original Post by jblarghp:

 True, but I'm pretty sure I won't be hitting the triple digits. I'm pretty positive actually.

 Are you counting women?  Where there goes 12 of my fantasies!!

Actually, that's a good rule to go by in life...if you've hit 99...and you still haven't find Mr. Right...you might just want to stop and buy a puppie and a goldfish and just call it good.

But, on the other hand...if you're sitting at 99...you have to admit hitting one more to grab centurian ranking has to be a little tempting....hmmm????

Sorry jblar.  I banish myself back to the island, I've been bad.

The Lounge Please give me your opinion for a survey Jan 13 2009
00:42 (UTC)
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Original Post by pgeorgian:

also, i can't imagine why you think that legal, regulated, taxed pot would be cheaper than illegal pot. 

 I don't know...because last time I went to the store to buy 50 hits of aspirin it didn't cost me $500. 

The Lounge Sex Jan 13 2009
00:37 (UTC)
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Original Post by jessicasbc:

 "There are about 3 kinds of guys, and 3 kinds of girls"

anyone who tries to sum up humanity like this putting forth a pretty lame argument. 

 You're right.  You're niether a female nor a male....neither attractive nor unattractive...and you don't have a low or high level of self esteem...of matter of fact, self esteem doesn't exist as a factor for you.

Congratulations.  You are impossible to categorize.  You've joined a rare group of about 10,000 that are sexually ambiguous and/or an alien species and/or devoid of emotion and/or an android and/or a shapeshifter.  Actually, the number could be much higher if you are a plant or a mineral...which would also be much harder to categorize.

My "categories" apply to vampires, most animals, bisexuals, many mythical creatures such as dwarves and elves, and almost all humans...but not you.

The Lounge Sex Jan 13 2009
00:30 (UTC)
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Original Post by jblarghp:

Ohh Calcat! I don't think the reason why I haven't had a ton of sexual partners is because I have low self-esteem. I just need to have a connection with them...is that so hard to believe!?!?

 Didn't say that.  I think you just have higher standards...and you're young.  Some of these women dropping 37+ totals are in their 40s...it's a little unfair to compare that to a girl that just became legal a few years ago and has been living away from home for all of 3 years.

The Lounge Please give me your opinion for a survey Jan 13 2009
00:25 (UTC)
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Original Post by pgeorgian:

there's a big piece missing from your analysis, though, drea: legalize marijuana, and some other illegal drug (probably meth) is going to fill that niche.

 So a stoner finds out he get's pot cheaper, can buy it at the same store he buys his Doritos, and doesn't have to buy it from a guy with a gun and a mean streak...and he's going to what???  Say "no thanks, but I'll try heroin!"  Why, pray tell, would he do that?  Because he can only do a  drug if it costs too much?

I was going to vote yes...but after finding out that pbg votes no....I'm voting "very much yes".

Making pot legal will cripple the illegal drug industry.  There are so many pot smokers compared to "hard druggies", it's a simple matter of mathematics.  The bottom line is governement cannot control desire.  Desire will dictate availability.  And as laws tighten around supply, the industry becomes inherently more dangerous and more profitable.  Alcohol and obesity are far more dangerous to a society than pot.  It's that simple.  You make the use legal, tax the legal sales, fine illegal sales, keep DUI laws strong, and ban import.

The Lounge Fat & Fit? Jan 13 2009
00:08 (UTC)
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Sometimes people give up on trying to reach a goal.  Rather than keep pounding their head against a wall, they make the decision that they will just work on being happy with the cards they've been dealt.

I sincerely doubt that many who take up that cause "really" believe in it.  But, if it makes them feel a little better...if they can live and be happy and healthy and can do it at a higher weight, good for them.  Some who are thinner could probably lose a lesson in stress reduction.  But, at the end of the day, many of the "big/proud" are most likely just frustrated and will battle with the weight issue for the rest of their lives, even if internally.

The Lounge Sex Jan 12 2009
23:55 (UTC)
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Original Post by jessicasbc:

 this is pretty lame.

 

 Well, that sheds light on it.  Good talk.  Perhaps you could elaborate on what aspect you find "most" lame.

And Octo-Luv...where I fit into the "categories" is "standards".  My number could be much higher...I just never could get "excited" about women that I didn't find physically attractive.  Other guys can...to each their own.

Where do you fit in?

The Lounge Sex Jan 12 2009
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Original Post by jblarghp:

Original Post by loriklorik:

Original Post by jblarghp:

Original Post by loriklorik:

Original Post by jblarghp:

Woah woah woah! Didn't I say I concede? I mean , I agreed that people have different ideas of what a high standard is.  For some people (the ones who sleep with hundreds of people) if it breathes it's fair game. Other people are more choosy... That's all! Some are just more picky than others.

So maybe it's not standards. Maybe some people just care just less about who they're getting it on with. Yayyyy! Good for them!

 Im not sure thats a fair thing to say about people who sleep with a lot of others.

What do you mean not fair? I think it's a pretty fair assumption that some people are definitely more picky than others when it comes to having sex. I have a feeling that people who sleep with less people are probably more picky, or they could have some other type of physical/psychological problem.
People who have sex with tons of people are probably less picky...no?

 Nope, i doubt standards play into it as much as you think.

Personally, many people fit my standards, but my lack of "drive" keeps me from hooking up with a lot of people. Sure sex is fun, but I have other things I want to do with my time.

The issue is a lot more complicated than just who is more picky about the type of person they would do.

I know the issue is more complicated, but I think being picky has SOMETHING to do with it.....
So if you had more time you would just hook up with a bunch of people?

Another thing I've noticed is the majority of women I know that have mass quantities of random hook ups have very low self esteem. I'm not saying this is the norm, but this is what I've noticed within my group of friends.

What was the over under on the number of pages before this topic became girls calling each other "prudes" or "sluts"?  I had 2 in the pool...

The problem is the "reasoning" is far more complex.  There are about 3 kinds of guys, and 3 kinds of girls:

  1. Those that postpone sex for moral and religious reasons.  They may "grow out" of this or may continue it until they find their one and only partner.
  2. Those with good looks who can have sex with as many options as they choose.  These kinds have varying numbers of partners, but usually a decent amount.
  3. This is the tough one there are about 8 different possibilites based on sex, attractiveness, and self-esteem (standards).
For example, there are tons of girls with low self esteem who may be attractive and have a low number because they latched onto the 1st guy that showed them attention (lucky guy).  Then there's the unattractive girl with low self-esteem that just puts it out there for whatever takers...and given that there will usually be a guy here and there that will do just about "anything"...that girl could have lots of partners...or her attractiveness could be so low that she just can't attract guys.  
And then there are guys...where self-esteem plays less of a factor but attractiveness plays more of a factor.  An unattractive guy is going to be very limited.  However, his standards could dictate that he "aim lower" and perhaps acheive a higher number.
It all hinges on self-esteem and how it dictates standards.  And "attractiveness" is seperate because while it often influences self-esteem, it doesn't always...especially with women where self esteem is more fragile.
Even though this is "generalizing", when I hear a woman with a large number, how I feel about that number is sort of dictated by 2 things:
  1. How attractive is she?
  2. When did she start having sex?
If she's good looking and started young, then a higher number doesn't bother me.  But if she is good looking and started late and is now going through guys like bottles of water...that makes me uncomfortable.  Because has she "found something" that she can't turn off for the sake of a relationship?  Or is it just a "phase"?  And if the woman is unattractive, then I worry about all kinds of things...there's all kinds of potential problems there.
Oh...I forgot to answer.  Given "intimate" is a very general term...I'm gonna say 6.  It could be 8 if "intimate" is expanded a bit.

The Lounge Loneliness and depression books Dec 29 2008
07:03 (UTC)
Original Post by coffincritter:

Feeling Good by David D. Burns M.D. It takes a behavioral approach and has exercises you can do.

http://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Good-New-Mood-T herapy/dp/0380731762

 

That is an excellent book.  I read it a long time ago and can say it worked very well.  It made sense and was an easy read.

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