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I read on another post that corn is not a vegetable. What does this mean? What is it then? Do people not like corn because it's used in processed foods or something of that nature? Enlighten me.
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Wtf? It isn't a vegetable? xD

I think it has something to do with the fact that it is relatively high in sugar, while being relatively low in fiber and nutrients. 

I think the same goes for peas. 

I remember being irritated that the dietician types wouldn't give me credit for two of my favorite veggies. 

http://whfoods.com/foodstoc.php

I was looking for corn in the veggies category, but was surprised to find it in the grains category!

http://whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspic e&dbid=90

However, the first sentence of its description from the link above reads, "What vegetable is more synonymous with the coming of summer than freshly picked corn on the cob? "

So um... I give up.

That is complete nonsense. If they aren't vegetables then what the heck are they? Meat? Donuts? I am pretty sure fresh corn is a vegetable. Period. (Dried corn is considered a grain.) Fresh peas are also defined as a vegetable, though dried i think they might be considered a legume. They might not be the BEST vegetable, maybe even on some peoples forbidden list for some reason or other, but they are irrefutably vegetables. Tomatoes however, are a technically a fruit, even thought we're taught they are a vegetable. Peas and corn both have lots of nutrients that are very good for you, and if you don't have certain types of health problems then working them in to your diet should be NO problem! THEY ARE GOOD FOR YOU! Its as silly as the super low carb diets. Carbs are not bad themselves, over consumption of the wrong ones can be. It's all about balance. For instance, eating just one small cookie wont make you fat, but eating several every day could. Something to keep in mind.

LOL, faeriesight, maybe corn is a donut!

I just looked up corn on the CC food browser...it is listed in the vegetable category and gets a grade of "A". Why do some people hate corn? It's not as cool as the other vegetables? It's better than eating pork rinds right? I can't believe your nutritionist wouldn't let you count corn as a veggie, luvtraveling. That's weird.

Many people view corn as a "bad" vegetable because it is high in calories compared to other veggies (1 cup = 177 calories). Also, many people can't eat corn without slathering the cob in butter.

On the other hand, corn chips, are NOT a vegetable. Oh, and fresh or frozen vegetables tend to have less calories and sodium per volume, as they are not processed like canned veggies. Thought i'd add two more cents lol.

I thought corn was a grain...

corn IS a grain!

-corn flakes

-corn pops

-popcorn

-corn chips

all grainproduct type foods... corn is high in carbs and starch, and it has kernels much like wheat or barley etc. so there fore it is a grain, NOT a vegetable.

 

 

Corn is a grain and it's not bad for you, especially if it's fresh and you grill or boil it at home. At least you know there are no preservatives in it or added sugar.

I say starchy vegetable.

Correction: YUMMY starchy vegetable.

It may technically be a grain but I still think of it as a vegetable.
I think peas are a legume - like black eye peas, navy beans, kidney beans, etc. And corn is a grain - corn was a generic name given to grains (wheat, barley, etc) during the dark ages. Europe didn't have corn as we know it today until after they started trading with the Americas. While the natives called it maize, the europeans called it corn (generic grain.) And for the Europeans, corn stuck.

Think corn bread. It was typically used as a grain plant to make flour.
FYI: Popcorn is a whole grain snack :)

For purposes of meal planning, I consider corn and potatoes and brown rice and bulgur and quinoa and kamut and bread products to be ... starches. For me, the term includes starchy (higher carb/higher calorie) vegetables as well as grains and grain products like bread and pasta.

What does it matter? Because I try to limit my intake of starches per meal and per day, whereas I can have all the veggies that my calorie budget will allow. I just don't want to get into the mental habit of thinking corn and potatoes are just like spinach and broccoli... because they are more calorie dense with significantly higher sugars and carbs. (Which matters to me; I am diabetic.)

Weird trivia for everyone ... peanuts are technically a legume, and not a nut.

=^..^= MOLLY

corn isn't bad for you, nor are peas -- but corn is a grain and peas are legumes.  I can remember having this discussion for years with people -- look corn up in Webster's dictionary.

 

I'm definitely not saying you shouldn't eat it -- (although this Iowa girl doesn't care for Sweet Corn).  just fit it into your plan. 

Corn is a grain. 

Corn being a grain that can be processed like a grain (flakes, bread) or like a vegetable, due to its moisture content.  Im with Molly - to me its a starch because thats the aspect that affects me.

Potatoes obviously arent a grain but due to their highly starchy nature and without skin, lack of fiber also thrown in with the starches. 

in terms of Animal, Vegetable, Mineral? - obviously it's vegetable

in terms of food categories, technically

  • grain = plants in the grass family that produce seeds which may be dried, ground and milled to makes cereals, breads and the like
  • vegetable = the edible stalk, stem or leaf of a plant
  • fruit = the edible (seed-containing) ovary of a plant
  • tuber = the edible root of a plant
  • legume = the edible podded seed of a plant in the legume family
  • nut = an edible dry fruit with a hard ovary wall
  • fungi = edible fungus, like mushrooms

Why some people don't eat corn:

  • Some people are allergic to the proteins in corn.
  • And some people are allergic to the molds that sometimes grow on corn. With most corn products, you'll have no idea of knowing what kind of corn it was made from and where it came from or even when it was grown, since corn is often stored in grain silos, where it can develop another kind of mold.
  • So it's the same kind of thing as people who have to avoid wheat, only it's corn.

in terms of food categories, technically

  • grain = plants in the grass family that produce seeds which may be dried, ground and milled to makes cereals, breads and the like
  • vegetable = the edible stalk, stem or leaf of a plant

Perfect!  So, corn is NOT a vegetable (since the stem, stalk, and leaves are not the edible part- nor is the root, so that leaves out root veggies), and IS a grain, since the edible part is the seed.  Well, I guess that answers that! 

Smile

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