I have a question.....
This site is full of tons of people and yet only a few participate in the daily chat topic at one time. I would like to know how many of you relate to the following -
This site is full of tons of people and yet only a few participate in the daily chat topic at one time. I would like to know how many of you relate to the following -
- I have never tried that topic
- I tried it but didn't like the chat
- I tried it and liked it but left due to my own issues
- I tried and and liked it but left due to hard feelings and felt "driven" away
Edited Jun 22 2007 20:38 by Igor
Reason: inflammatory off-topic and personal attack arguments
Reason: inflammatory off-topic and personal attack arguments
I pop in , but never comment or join. I usually don't have the time.
I used to go in but it felt like no one cared if I was there. It seems to be a big clique, they only talk to each other.
I still use the tools here but the people are not very friendly sometimes.
I still use the tools here but the people are not very friendly sometimes.
I don't go on the daily chat...although I comment pretty frequentlyon other threads in the Lounge and the Weight Loss Forum.
The daily chat is a little clique-y. I've never found them rude or anything, it's just not something I feel comfy jumping into...like sitting down at a table full of strangers in the Middle School lunchroom.
The daily chat is a little clique-y. I've never found them rude or anything, it's just not something I feel comfy jumping into...like sitting down at a table full of strangers in the Middle School lunchroom.
The chat can definitely be "clique-y". I have had fun there, in the beginning. But when I go in now, say hello, how's everyone...? It seems that the conversation at hand takes precedence and there doesn't seem to be a lot of welcoming, unfortunately.
So...sometimes I just read it. But most times I don't even check it out simply because I talk to myself ENOUGH already (I have pre-teens...you understand...LOL).
So...sometimes I just read it. But most times I don't even check it out simply because I talk to myself ENOUGH already (I have pre-teens...you understand...LOL).
I agree with above it's just very "clique-y". Very hard for us newbies to join in.
#5 - none of the above.
I very rarely post in the chat. But you know what? There are hundreds of thousands of members on this site. There are thousands of posts in the forums. Daily chat is one in the ocean, and I have more than enough to keep me busy without it.
I have no issues with the chat or the people in it. I don't dislike the chat and have never felt anything less than welcome there. My experiences are what I make of them, not what someone else chooses for me.
I also don't have issues with the people in the Health & Support forum who are talking about medical issues that I don't feel the need to contribute to. Or the threads for 5'2" people looking to loose weight. Considering I'm 5'6", I guess I could feel left out of those threads... But why?
It is absolutely impossible for hundreds of thousands of people to all contribute to a single thread. It is absolutely impossible for hundreds of thousands of people to all be happy with, or even feel welcome in a single thread. That's why there are thousands of other threads that you can participate in. This isn't Calorie-Chat, after all. :) It is, however, a wonderful community full of diverse and active participants in all places, all forums, who make the site an enjoyable place, and a worthwhile place, for hundreds of thousands of people.
I very rarely post in the chat. But you know what? There are hundreds of thousands of members on this site. There are thousands of posts in the forums. Daily chat is one in the ocean, and I have more than enough to keep me busy without it.
I have no issues with the chat or the people in it. I don't dislike the chat and have never felt anything less than welcome there. My experiences are what I make of them, not what someone else chooses for me.
I also don't have issues with the people in the Health & Support forum who are talking about medical issues that I don't feel the need to contribute to. Or the threads for 5'2" people looking to loose weight. Considering I'm 5'6", I guess I could feel left out of those threads... But why?
It is absolutely impossible for hundreds of thousands of people to all contribute to a single thread. It is absolutely impossible for hundreds of thousands of people to all be happy with, or even feel welcome in a single thread. That's why there are thousands of other threads that you can participate in. This isn't Calorie-Chat, after all. :) It is, however, a wonderful community full of diverse and active participants in all places, all forums, who make the site an enjoyable place, and a worthwhile place, for hundreds of thousands of people.
I have popped in once or twice since I started here and most everyone has been friendly. I am just not always interested in what is being chatted about. But I don't think the tread is an issue in any way.
Jenn...
While I agree with some of what you said, I think being left out of the chat subject is not relevant (i.e. your 5'2" example). The daily chat always says that everyone is welcome. But when you go "against the tide" of the powers that be in that thread or you simply say something that one of the "cliquers" doesn't like, you are jumped on. When that happens, a lot of people get offended or hurt and they leave. (me included)
I only find it disturbing because some of the people high up in the food chain and actually help to RUN this web site are instrumental in that chat topic on a daily basis as well as driving people out of THEIR chat. It just seems to be a bad reflection on CC....which is so positive in every other way.
It should be more welcoming due to the mods being in charge of it openly, if not for the fact that we should all be nice to each other seeing as though we all have some of the same issues in common.
I just wanted to see who else feels this way....thanks.
While I agree with some of what you said, I think being left out of the chat subject is not relevant (i.e. your 5'2" example). The daily chat always says that everyone is welcome. But when you go "against the tide" of the powers that be in that thread or you simply say something that one of the "cliquers" doesn't like, you are jumped on. When that happens, a lot of people get offended or hurt and they leave. (me included)
I only find it disturbing because some of the people high up in the food chain and actually help to RUN this web site are instrumental in that chat topic on a daily basis as well as driving people out of THEIR chat. It just seems to be a bad reflection on CC....which is so positive in every other way.
It should be more welcoming due to the mods being in charge of it openly, if not for the fact that we should all be nice to each other seeing as though we all have some of the same issues in common.
I just wanted to see who else feels this way....thanks.
But the fact is, if I say something in ANY thread on this site that people don't like, I run the risk of being 'jumped on'. It's part of having adult conversations, part of life.
Also, Mods don't run this site. We help make sure the posting guidelines are followed, but we are far from administrators. That would be Erik and Igor.
Lots of people don't like lots of things about this site. The varying opinions are probably not going to change. Again, part of being an adult is recognizing that there will always be people who don't get along and there will always be things you don't like. Many people wish we had a higher age limit on this site, or that we were more welcoming to people in a healthy weight range who want to still lose more weight, or that we 'banned' underweight members. Never are we going to get hundreds of thousands of people to agree. No matter what the subject is.
Also, Mods don't run this site. We help make sure the posting guidelines are followed, but we are far from administrators. That would be Erik and Igor.
Lots of people don't like lots of things about this site. The varying opinions are probably not going to change. Again, part of being an adult is recognizing that there will always be people who don't get along and there will always be things you don't like. Many people wish we had a higher age limit on this site, or that we were more welcoming to people in a healthy weight range who want to still lose more weight, or that we 'banned' underweight members. Never are we going to get hundreds of thousands of people to agree. No matter what the subject is.
I do realize that, and I realize that we all need to be adult about it. That is exactly why I left the chat after daily participation for a year. However, my decision to leave was based on being driven out. If that didn't happen, I would still be participating.
Sorry Jenn, I know we all can not agree on everything. I am merely saying that I don't think it's right to have mods create a thread, call it inviting and welcoming, but then only react...respond....or be friendly to whom they please. Not too mention some of the editing that goes on, in my opinion, is a bit over the line.
As you say, that is my adult opinion. I am sorry you disagree.
Sorry Jenn, I know we all can not agree on everything. I am merely saying that I don't think it's right to have mods create a thread, call it inviting and welcoming, but then only react...respond....or be friendly to whom they please. Not too mention some of the editing that goes on, in my opinion, is a bit over the line.
As you say, that is my adult opinion. I am sorry you disagree.
I pop in now and then and always feel welcome. I simply don't have time to sit and chat for any length of time. I'm not good at small talk or banter.
PS: "the mods" didn't create that thread. It was started before there were any mods.
PS: "the mods" didn't create that thread. It was started before there were any mods.
Oh and for the record, I am just seeing who might agree with me on the nastiness and clique-y-ness of that chat. I am over it and have been out of chat a long time. I still communicate with several people here.
I just think something should be done about the ones who seem to be above the law. That's all......it's a web site we all can enjoy and lots of effort is made by the owners to do just that....
But it seems sometimes, heads are turned to not actually see of of teh stuff that is not very nice for CC's image.
I just think something should be done about the ones who seem to be above the law. That's all......it's a web site we all can enjoy and lots of effort is made by the owners to do just that....
But it seems sometimes, heads are turned to not actually see of of teh stuff that is not very nice for CC's image.
Don't be sorry that I disagree. :) I don't expect you to agree with me any more than you should expect me to agree with you. It's the beauty of diversity. It's why two people see the exact same situation and interpret it in wildly different manners.
It's why two people will go into the chat, one will love it and stick around and contribute, and another will not like it and will find other ways to contribute to the site. Yet another may choose option 3.
But things are rarely as black and white as they may be portrayed, nor is your opinion guaranteed to be shared by others. Nor is mine.
With that, I have got to get back to work!
It's why two people will go into the chat, one will love it and stick around and contribute, and another will not like it and will find other ways to contribute to the site. Yet another may choose option 3.
But things are rarely as black and white as they may be portrayed, nor is your opinion guaranteed to be shared by others. Nor is mine.
With that, I have got to get back to work!
thanks Jenn..
Claire.....the mods usually create the topic of the daily chat thread and are instrumental in posting all day......check back each day and see
Claire.....the mods usually create the topic of the daily chat thread and are instrumental in posting all day......check back each day and see
any other thoughts out there?
I have popped in a coouple times but it seemed like everyone already really knew each other really well and I didnt know what to say...kinda felt like a stranger BUT I also have never tried to jump in so I dont know what it is all about in there.
Too much stuff to catch up on. It seems like you have to be there from the beginning to have an understanding of what the heck they're talking about.
well i have to say, i'd observed chat for quite a while but felt a little intimidated trying to jump in. then just the other day, i just said what the heck and stared chatting. i felt very warmly welcomed and have enjoyed being a part of it! guess i had a different experience than a lot of people.
I don't participate in the daily chat.
It's more because I can hardly follow the chain of replys and get a hold of what the subject is...I tend to log on a while after it starts and don't really want to read x number of pages to get caught up.
It seems that it is a forum for a few people, it could be called a clique...cscgrl04 made a good point "like sitting down at a table full of strangers in the Middle School lunchroom"...it's not like they wouldn't welcome you, just a little intimidating...but that's not really what keeps me from it. It's more the time involved in staying with the conversations and keeping up! :)
It's more because I can hardly follow the chain of replys and get a hold of what the subject is...I tend to log on a while after it starts and don't really want to read x number of pages to get caught up.
It seems that it is a forum for a few people, it could be called a clique...cscgrl04 made a good point "like sitting down at a table full of strangers in the Middle School lunchroom"...it's not like they wouldn't welcome you, just a little intimidating...but that's not really what keeps me from it. It's more the time involved in staying with the conversations and keeping up! :)
I would have to disagree kip. I went to daily chat (maybe about a month ago) as a brand new person. I felt very accepted right from the start. Nobody made me feel otherwise. And I've seen new people on there since me and they come back frequently as well.
I don't think it is clique-y. It's just that the chat can move so fast, that you kinda have to follow the topicss as you can. The ones who stay seem like the ones who can just kind of roll with things.
By the way, in the time that I've been on chat, I HAVE disagreed with people....Even certain Mod's and never felt pushed out because of it.
EDIT: Also, nobody should worry about having to re-read all of the previous chat pages to catch up. Most people just jump in and pick things up as the chat moves along. I hardly ever re-read the old pages that I've missed.
I don't think it is clique-y. It's just that the chat can move so fast, that you kinda have to follow the topicss as you can. The ones who stay seem like the ones who can just kind of roll with things.
By the way, in the time that I've been on chat, I HAVE disagreed with people....Even certain Mod's and never felt pushed out because of it.
EDIT: Also, nobody should worry about having to re-read all of the previous chat pages to catch up. Most people just jump in and pick things up as the chat moves along. I hardly ever re-read the old pages that I've missed.
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