E-mo or E-no

... Ok Im just gonna start off by already apologizing anyone i might offend..

Does anyone els think there is something wrong with this sudden wave of "emo"ness... I mean ok, I can understand style.. even some of the crazy ones.. all about expressing yourself! these days..  But when guys of the age 14-19 start stuffing them self into girl pants as a style. I mean come on call it what you want, but isnt that what a cross-dresser or a drag-queen is? I'll even admit that i have a pair of jeans that might make your average dude would might say " think those are a little tight?"  But I have nothing that comes even close to what these guys are stuffing them self into... I almost consider this like morally incorrect... is anyone els bothered by this fad?

hahahahahahaha

Yes... because people can turn depression on and off at will. 

no but its the "attitude" that comes with theyre style, saying they like the style so they make themself fit the part

Poseur is a not new word.

These kids have some type of archetype, stereotype to conform/mold to, and they do it well.

Original Post by luthien_j:

Get over it, it's NOT cool to hurt yourself and it's not cool to be miserable.

Definately, E-NO!

How do you know it's emo making them do this and not the other way around? Like they were prone to self-harm and be depressed and were drawn to emo because it's a scene where they won't be condemned or expect to hide who they are?

I was a depressed, self-harming kid BEFORE I got into goth (we didn't have emo back then), only I felt like I was going to explode because I felt the rest of the world expected me to be some happy, perky teenybopper. After I got into goth my problems weren't solved, but I felt like the essence of the subculture was saying "It's ok. You're not a bad or wrong for being depressed." And in a way I actually felt less pressure to be something I'm not and did feel a little bit better and found myself enjoying some things.

 

Original Post by coffincritter:

Original Post by luthien_j:

Get over it, it's NOT cool to hurt yourself and it's not cool to be miserable.

Definately, E-NO!

How do you know it's emo making them do this and not the other way around? Like they were prone to self-harm and be depressed and were drawn to emo because it's a scene where they won't be condemned or expect to hide who they are?

I was a depressed, self-harming kid BEFORE I got into goth (we didn't have emo back then), only I felt like I was going to explode because I felt the rest of the world expected me to be some happy, perky teenybopper. After I got into goth my problems weren't solved, but I felt like the essence of the subculture was saying "It's ok. You're not a bad or wrong for being depressed." And in a way I actually felt less pressure to be something I'm not and did feel a little bit better and found myself enjoying some things.

 

 I don't think I know many teenagers who HAVEN'T self-harmed or been depressed but it doesn't mean they have to dye their hair black or sit in the corner and play depressing music all day. I for one have experienced it and didn't turn to being a goth or an emo, I was just me and now I'm over it I am still me. I don't think you need to define yourself because of the bad things that go on in your life. Garaunteed you will find many people who have had a worse time of it than you did so be grateful for what you have and try to smile.

Original Post by systemdrop:

only reason emo bothers me.. is why would you wear something that is so uncomfy (for guys atleast) by your own choice?... thats what annoys me is that theyd rather fit in than be able to walk around normal

actually my sisters boyfriend wears girls skinny jeans (he is like super skinny tho he weighs like 110 and he is 5'11) he says that they are more comfortable than guys skinny jeans so i guess it just depends on the guy weather they like them or no 

i actually like the style alot.  its just a style to some people its a 'life style' but i think its just a style i dress the style. and im not depressed and i dont listen to depressing music either only when i feel like it but its not like when somebodys depressed they actually go and sit in a corner. i dont really believe in stereotypes because i think they are very stupid and degrading.

It seems like it hasn't occured to some people that those who dress this way are doing it because they feel more like themselves looking this way.  I'm sure that because it's a trend some people may want to fit in with their friends. But most just want to look on the outside the way they feel inside. And it does also, reflect what kind of music, literature, art and culture they are interested in. It doesn't necessarily indicate that someone is depressed or likes to hurt themselves or is Bi. Even if are placing themselves in a catagory by the way they dress you can't sterotype their personality.  Even in the 50's there were people growing their hair long on top, being pale and wearing black & they called it Beat-nick.   In the 80's Punks and rockers alike wore tight pants.  Bottom line, don't lable and judge.

>.< I thought this thread died...

Original Post by luthien_j Garaunteed you will find many people who have had a worse time of it than you did so be grateful for what you have and try to smile.

If you look on any website about depression, they'll tell you those tend to be counter-productive things to tell depressed people(except for the grateful thing, which can be helpful.). #1 implies shaming them for what they're experiencing or saying they have no right to their feelings. Yes it's worse in Darfur--now they feel bad about their problems AND about Darfur! Also, you may be invalidating what might be a real trauma--is Random Depressed Teen moping about Dad not buying him an iPod, or are they actually dealing with some kind of abuse in the home, a death in the family, etc.? Don't just say to someone "It can't be that bad"--you don't know if it actually is.

"Try to smile" "Bottle it up" "Pretend it's not happening" - none of these things offer actual solutions, and the people who do them tend to either snap in a big way or develop an ulcer.

Being grateful or reminding yourself of the things that are positive in your life--I will give you this one. Behavioral pyschologists recommend this as a refocusing technique, and it does work.

And lastly and bluntly, goth and emo just looks better than more trendy/preppy clothes, whther you're depressed or not. I'd rather look at someone with dyed black hair (which I have, by the way) than someone in a boring Abercrombie & Fitch shirt. And Joy Division rules.

Every decade brandishes a new bad hairstyle.. Scene/emo kids WILL look back and cringe.. just as the 80s kids did with the Mullet and the 50's beehive. 

Actually, the scene hair isn't bad on girls but I hate it on boys, IMO.. but, I'm getting old.. and I have no room to talk.. My hair sucks.

Edit:  I vote E-so?

Original Post by systemdrop:

>.< I thought this thread died...

Says the guy who keeps pulling up dead threads from 6+ months ago. 

i hate when the emo kids try and get all the self-pitty they can. that's annoying as f*ck.!

when they arn't whiny bit**s and think if people arn't like them they're crap then idc

i have now seen two more instances of boys wearing girls' jeans that are skin tight and that they can't get up over their butt, which makes them look like they're sorta falling down

i guess this is preferable to the ginormous jeans belted at crotch level about to fall off of them, but only marginally

and they have all been wearing girls panties too

if this prevents them from having children someday, it won't be the worst thing

I honestly don't see why people get so upset over guys wearing girls clothing. They can, and should be able to, wear whatever the hell they want without people complaining about it. As long as it covers up what needs to be covered up i really don't see the problem with it.

Just because they can doesn't mean they should...

I grew up in the 70s and lots of guys wore tight jeans then too.  Doesn't bother me at all.  Fads come and go. big whoop.  Moral issue?  Pshaw.

Original Post by luthien_j:

Just because they can doesn't mean they should...

What, guys wearing girls clothing? They TOTALLY should...and you'd be amazed how many of them take very little cajoling, in private at least!

Original Post by coffincritter:

Original Post by luthien_j:

Just because they can doesn't mean they should...

 

What, guys wearing girls clothing? They TOTALLY should...and you'd be amazed how many of them take very little cajoling, in private at least!

 Hmmm...I'd say that's a personal opinion.  To each their own. But I did not choose my guy because he looked good in girls clothing.  And I think I'd have a problem if he started trying to fit into my jeans.

Original Post by luthien_j :

Just because they can doesn't mean they should...

 that is totally just your opinion. You think they shouldn't, but i think they should! imo its hot =P