Is it me or does everyone else seem like PIGS!!
I have always told myself that I would never judge someone for what they did, or ate or so and so.
But since I have been on a diet I cant help noticing other peoples eating habits and for some reason its disgusts me!
I work with a group of girls and every single one of them is 'Supposably' on a diet. But for some reason im the only one who seems to take it seriously. I watch every day as they scoff Bacon sandwiches, sweets, chocolate cakes and sandwiches as big as your face. And then i look down at the bowl of soup and weight watchers bread im eating and feel cheated!
Does anyone else get this feeling, or do you think its jelousy because i want to eat those things, but know im going to suceed better because i dont eat them!
Reason: this thread no longer focuses on weight loss -- moved to the Lounge where it is more appropriate
Nah. I'm not one to judge.
yes!! Ever since I started counting calories I have noticed how many other people are eating..and it doesn't matter what the person looks like, whether they are underweight or overweight. Just the fact that almost NO ONE I know eats a normal portion of food for a meal! People bring huge bottles of iced tea (the kind with 400 cals) to class and I just wince! this one kid bought a bag of goldfish crackers and ate the whole thing as a snack!
one friend I know is trying to lose weight yet she drinks regular soda EVERY day! she sees me getting diet.. and she even mentioned once that a drink she got happened to be no calories and she was happy about it. but then she gets the regular soda next time!
and don't get me started on people that I see eat a huge rich dinner and then have cake AND/or ice cream...EVERY night.
i'm the same way. I'm kiiinda jealous but then again, I'm really glad that I'm not them and that I know what I am putting in me.
I think I judge people more for buying into fad diets than eating unhealthilyy. Ok, once I did notice a guy eating breakfast at the work cafeteria, went back to my desk, totalled up his meal (estimated some quantities) and came up with 3000 calories. For breakfast.
But in general, I just find it funny/sad when I see people order a salad with buffalo chicken and ranch dressing... but hold the croutons - because they don't want the carbs. Or eating "low-fat peanut butter", which, if they checked the nutritional info, has almost as many calories as my natural, full-fat peanut butter, but the low-fat version has the extra bonus of high fructose syrup. I once watched a woman storm out of Subway because they didn't have any more wraps, and she didn't want a sandwich. If you go to the subway website, you'll learn that while the 6" wheat bread has 200 calories and 40 g carbs, the wrap not only has 310 calories, but has 51 g of carbs. I mean, maybe she just doesn't like bread...? Or salads?
So I guess I judge more when people are trying to diet in a way that I consider wrong (although, hey, maybe it'll work for them), than when people are just eating what they want.
My very worst habit on that one is 'trolley-gazing'. I'll be standing idly in the checkout queue thinking about nothing in particular and then I'll mentally start assessing the contents of the trolley in front of me. And, I hate to say it, but when the owner of the trolley is a bit on the chunky side, the trolley is nine times out of ten full of junk.....
Yeah I know. Thing is i do look at other elements as well as calories. Like how much fat something has, what type of fat and how many carbs. Like when i go to subway i have a 6 inch turkey sub with salad. Just because Turkey is meant to be the best meat you can have on a diet, along with fish.
I dont do fad diets, they have never worked for me. Calorie countings the way for me!
Once i saw this family in ASDA and they had 4 trolleys fully loaded. Now they were quite a bit on the chunky side and i looked at what was in their trolley, and i thought they have enough food in that trolley to feed the whole of ethiopia for a year!!
I dont by much when i got shopping. And everything is cooked from scratch because atleast i know how its going to taste and whats going in it.
All thats in my trolley is fruit, veg, Turkey meat and Beef mince, Low fat Yoghurt, Rice and Bread.
It breaks my heart every time I see an overweight parent with little kids who are starting to pack on the pounds and the cart is full of things like frozen pizza, chips, ice cream, cookies, etc. with absolutely zero healthy items. But then I realize that's how most people eat. 
I think pity is what I feel. I like to think I don't judge, but I'm probably not *that* good of a person.
The pity comes from the fact that I've been on both sides of the fence, my parents raised me with a very healthy diet and I was a fit kid. One major accident + university + discover of microwave and convenience food, boy did I ever pack on the pounds!
I'm still amazed that as I go back to eating the foods I was raised on I can eat soooo much that usually I don't eat everything that I put on my daily plan, but even if I did I would still not be over calories.
While, when I wasn't thinking about what I was eating and was just thinking convenience & hungry now I could put away 3,000 calories without even blinking!
It's a real shocker, before I started lowering my calories I logged on here for 1 month what I was eating in an average day and it was 3,000 calories and I didn't feel full!!!!
This tells me two things. First, it tells me how many calories are in those frozen pizza's, canned soups, process pre-packaged meals. Second, it not only tells me how many calories are in there but how empty those calories are.
I'm eating more food items now, but they are lower cal and I'm frequently so full that I don't have to eat all I've allowed myself to in a day.
And yes I do look at people in the grocery and think OMG! look at all the frozen crap that person has! Or, I have a friend who is also trying to loose weight and is killing herself at the gym and "watching what she eats" but then I see her eating double bacon cheeseburgers, pizza, vodka coolers, chocolate bars, jelly beans, chips and she's wondering why all her hard work at the gym (and she is working very hard at the gym) isn't paying off!
Sigh - I can't preach, and I don't want to preach, all I know is that I'm glad that if you see me in line at the grocery I'll have veggies, lentils and whole grains in my bin.
The thing I ask is, would I have appreciated someone determining that I was a PIG 2 years ago? I don't think I would have.
Well aovermy i think i have to really disagree with you. I have grown up always being the healthy on in my family. My mum, dad and brother have always been bigger than me. My mum is now a depressive cos she hates the way she looks, My dad had a mini heart attack due to being over weight and my brother gets picked on my his mate for being a lil tubby. And you telling me you dont care what you loved ones eat.
Yes ok i believe you should not have live life watching everything you eat, and life is too short to care. But your body was not made for filling up with junk. It was made to be looked after, like you look after your loved ones.
I view people as pigs cos thats exactly what they are. They dont need the food, but insist to have it cos they cant controll themselves.
My dad once said to me that he congratulates anyone strong enough to be on a diet. As it has been scientifically prooven to be the hardest thing to give up, harder than smoking, drinking and drugs. Because your body craves junk! When we dont even need it.
Yep, I'm American and it seems it this country we have no common knowledge what portions we really should be eating. Most people eat way too much. About 3-4 time too much. We're know as the 'Fat Nation' for a reason. I check out what people are wearing when I'm eating, it usually ruins my appetite. Good Luck!
I used to work as a grocery clerk. I'd analyze everyone's carts of stuff. You can tell a lot about a person by their cart... but I can't say it was ever to think they're a pig. It was just sort of a curiosity to pass the time.
Original Post by jonesml:
Well aovermy i think i have to really disagree with you. I have grown up always being the healthy on in my family. My mum, dad and brother have always been bigger than me. My mum is now a depressive cos she hates the way she looks, My dad had a mini heart attack due to being over weight and my brother gets picked on my his mate for being a lil tubby. And you telling me you dont care what you loved ones eat.
I view people as pigs cos thats exactly what they are. They dont need the food, but insist to have it cos they cant controll themselves.
No, and yes.
I can see where if you are in a relationship where criticizing what your significant other is eating is just a BAD idea. I never find I would never say to anyone "don't eat that it's bad for you" or articulate "how can you eat that it's soooo unhealthy".
I find the better way to influence people habits (family included and most of all) is to change yourself. If I make healthy meal I always make enough to share (and yes, if I don't share I do portion control so I don't eat it all). Giving people healthy options I find often leads to change.
My example is that my partners friends frequently give him a good ribbing now when he tells them he doesn't like fast food and wants the chicken BBQ not the steak. Apparently before he hooked up with me (7+ years now) all he ate was pizza pops, meatball subs and crisps.
Now, I never once asked him to change his habits or even suggested it. But I eat a mainly vegan diet and he doesn't like to cook.... so yeah, he still has the occasional cajun chicken sandwich but generally he's found his tastes have literally changed.
That's why I'd take issue with saying "people can't control themselves". I think it's partly that but the underlying reason is that we don't teach people to control themselves.
Just LOOK at the portion sizes in restaurants! We as a culture do not know that a portion size is anymore. We are concurrently sold ice cream and diet pills.
We are so out of touch with where our food comes from and how it should be consumed that it takes a really pro-active person to actually go out and get the information.
So in some ways people can be pigs, they are just eating what mainstream society is shoving in front of them, but I think it's more about lack of education and awareness than lack of control.
You view people as pigs because that's what they are?? Wow I am blown away by your compassion and humanity. Move over Mother Theresa.
Sarcasm aside, it's attitudes like that I have lived in fear of all my life. I try to eat right (now I am completely committed to it, but was not always) and on the rare occasion I went out to eat, it was a treat. So if I indulged in something fried or cheese-laden or whatever, it was a treat, not how I usually ate, and the looks/comments i have had to face my entire adult life, judging me for my "piggishness", was not at all helpful and actually contributed to my eventual eating disorder. So go ahead and judge miss thing, but I sure hope you keep those cruel and misguided comments to yourself.
Incidentally...in the past when I have been on really strict diets where I deprived myself, I had similar thoughts, not so much about other people but about unhealthy foods in general, seeing someone eat a bag of chips actually made me nauseous. I think it was because I had to brainwash myself into believing my way was the only way to eat. Those diets always ended up in failure, likely because I could not maintain that level of self-denial forever. Now, I am committed to eating well without having to deprive myself, and I don't judge others or experience jealousy...I am really happy doing what i am doing, and even happier that it's working for me. Just my experience.
I only judge when I get friends who hop on fad diets. Which still frustrates me b/c really it's none of my business, but for some reason the inner health nut in me just can't stay put! It gets SO OLD how many friends of mine will say how I can eat whatever I want and how wierd I am for always eating and I constantly tell them, um HELLO!? I'm eating clean 99 percent of the time! If you replaced your jumbo *skim* white mocha as breakfast for real food you'd feel better AND see results! ah. that felt nice lol
Original Post by victoriagirl:
You view people as pigs because that's what they are?? Wow I am blown away by your compassion and humanity. Move over Mother Theresa.
Sarcasm aside, it's attitudes like that I have lived in fear of all my life. I try to eat right (now I am completely committed to it, but was not always) and on the rare occasion I went out to eat, it was a treat. So if I indulged in something fried or cheese-laden or whatever, it was a treat, not how I usually ate, and the looks/comments i have had to face my entire adult life, judging me for my "piggishness", was not at all helpful and actually contributed to my eventual eating disorder. So go ahead and judge miss thing, but I sure hope you keep those cruel and misguided comments to yourself.
Incidentally...in the past when I have been on really strict diets where I deprived myself, I had similar thoughts, not so much about other people but about unhealthy foods in general, seeing someone eat a bag of chips actually made me nauseous. I think it was because I had to brainwash myself into believing my way was the only way to eat. Those diets always ended up in failure, likely because I could not maintain that level of self-denial forever. Now, I am committed to eating well without having to deprive myself, and I don't judge others or experience jealousy...I am really happy doing what i am doing, and even happier that it's working for me. Just my experience.
All good points.
Here's my take, I don't know that I'm comfortable with the word "pigs"... but, I have to be honest and say I'm not adverse to it.
Now, I'm a BIG girl right now, and I have to face up to the fact that I often think of myself and other BIG people as "pigs".
Is this a healthy way to view myself and my fellow people. No. This doesn't however mean that I don't have these thoughts.
Now let me emphasize that I NEVER would say anything of the kind out loud to anyone else or to myself and I'm VERY aware of my body language and facial expressions. If I cant be 100% compassionate in my thoughts I can at least try to act that way and follow the logic that if positive actions lead to positive thinking then maybe the same will be true with compassion.
I think the hard truth is though that most of us, good intentions and all do judge. Maybe I'm wrong about that, maybe I'm a bad person. Who know, I do know that I am not judgement free.
So if I think that my behaviour or others behaviour is "pig" like then I need to ask why.
This is why I said the reason that I may accept this is that I don't think pigs are at all bad animals, the problem is that they simply eat whatever is put in front of them. That is how they are programmed.
Without better nutritional education and awareness we as a culture do seem to act in much the same way. This isn't a statement on the value of the person as a human being, but on a social problem in our society.
Where it becomes even more of a social problem is if we then think that people are lesser human beings because they follow the bad actions that we as a society impress upon them. It is our societal job to create positive and good education and awareness, and while personal responsibility is important, no person is an island and it's hard to lay blame on people for doing what they are day in and day out taught to do.
Original Post by victoriagirl:
Sarcasm aside, it's attitudes like that I have lived in fear of all my life. I try to eat right (now I am completely committed to it, but was not always) and on the rare occasion I went out to eat, it was a treat. So if I indulged in something fried or cheese-laden or whatever, it was a treat, not how I usually ate, and the looks/comments i have had to face my entire adult life, judging me for my "piggishness", was not at all helpful and actually contributed to my eventual eating disorder. So go ahead and judge miss thing, but I sure hope you keep those cruel and misguided comments to yourself.
Why are you blaming other people for your eating disorder? It is not other people's fault you have an eating disorder. You have an eating disorder because you are the one that put that there. Your attitude. Your ideas. Your mental perception.
Maybe, the sooner you realize that, the sooner you can move on and recover. Take reponsibility.
I think a lot of people on this site need to take a good look at themselves in the mirror and stop blaming everybody else for what's wrong with your life.
And BTW, I have ed-nos with a tendency towards anorexia, so I DO know what I am talking about.
Original Post by babyness:
Original Post by victoriagirl:
Sarcasm aside, it's attitudes like that I have lived in fear of all my life. I try to eat right (now I am completely committed to it, but was not always) and on the rare occasion I went out to eat, it was a treat. So if I indulged in something fried or cheese-laden or whatever, it was a treat, not how I usually ate, and the looks/comments i have had to face my entire adult life, judging me for my "piggishness", was not at all helpful and actually contributed to my eventual eating disorder. So go ahead and judge miss thing, but I sure hope you keep those cruel and misguided comments to yourself.
Why are you blaming other people for your eating disorder? It is not other people's fault you have an eating disorder. You have an eating disorder because you are the one that put that there. Your attitude. Your ideas. Your mental perception.
Maybe, the sooner you realize that, the sooner you can move on and recover. Take reponsibility.
I think a lot of people on this site need to take a good look at themselves in the mirror and stop blaming everybody else for what's wrong with your life.
And BTW, I have ed-nos with a tendency towards anorexia, so I DO know what I am talking about.
We don't live in a vacuum.
First, I agree that personal responsibility is critical when getting over an eating disorder. Until you can take responsibility for your choices you cannot control your choices effectively.
That being said weather you are anorexic or bingeing there are HUGE social forces at work.
There are billions of dollars spent by fashion, cosmetic and entertainment industries convincing girls that a size 0 is a good thing. And there are billions of dollars spent by food manufactures, fast food industry and hospitality industry telling us that food, specifically junk food will make us happy.
We can't blame people entirely for succumbing to these messages. And, we can't expect that we are immune to judging ourselves and others based on these messages.
Think about it, if as much money was spent on portraying a realistic healthy body image and educating people about proper portion sizes and nutrition what would our culture look like?
I'm not saying the individual has no role to play here. What I am saying is that we humans are social creatures and to blame everything on the individual weather we are blaming them for an eating disorder or for the way they judge and relate to other human beings is quite reductionist and misses the larger picture.
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