Am I an evil conservative hate-monger? ::The other side to Phylbean's post:: :)

Or just a good conservative?

This thread is explores the “other side” of the Phylbean post titled “Am I unpatriotic”.  P.S. Phylbean, the answer is no.

1)      I do support the war in Iraq, the surge, AND the troops.  I wasn’t a fan of the war at the beginning, but we are there now and we are winning.  The number of U.S. combat deaths in September dropped 86 percent from where they were a year ago for September, making it one of the least deadly months since the war began. Violence against Iraqi civilians is also down about 70%. We've turned over more and more provinces to Iraqi control...their infrastructure is being rebuilt and their economy is on the rise. Iraq's oil production is up to around 2.5 million barrels per day and they just posted a budget SURPLUS of $70 billion. In fact, the Surge has worked so well, it now seems that we will start withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq.  WOOT! 

2)      Flag-burning is our right as Americans, but if I see someone burning a flag, I will send glares your way.  Why?  For me, our flag symbolizes my hopes for our country, our troops, our way of life, and all of those who have fought for it.  If you want to make a statement, fantastic.  Make a sign, organize a march, get involved!!  You can make much more of a difference doing the above then burning a flag. 

3)      I believe taxes are need to a certain extent, but personal responsibility should remain on the forefront of our minds!  I don’t want my money going to some research study concerning cross breeding two types of fish.  I don’t want my money going to someone else’s heath care unless they have a serious life-threatening problem.  I do NOT want it going to someone who by choice dropped out of high school, and surprisingly can’t find a job.  I want to save my money for my retirement and my children’s future. 

4)      I believe that the life begins at conception.  I believe that all abortion should be illegal, except in cases that risk the mother’s health.  People can do whatever they want, have sex with whoever they want, with as many people as they want.  That is their choice.  Once a woman becomes pregnant though, all of that goes out the window.  I think adoption should be focused on more. 

5)       I am not the hugest fan of W., but I don’t think he is evil or stupid, and I certainly don’t hate him. 

6)      I also believe that everyone has the right to practice whatever religion they want to.  I believe in the separation of church and State.  However, I am annoyed when I see the full fledged attack on Christians in our media, schools, and general society.  If half of the things I hear demeaning Christianity were said about the Jewish faith or the Islamic religion, there would be a revolt.  Just saying. 

7)      I like guns.  I go to the fire range every other week to shoot guns.   I don’t mind backround checks, or mental heath checks, but don’t even try to take away my guns!  I’m sorry, but if someone enters my home in the middle of the night and starts up the stairs where my baby girl sleeps, I am using my gun and I aim well.

Cheers. 

Original Post by ignayshus:

@448 - pro-life limits/eliminates (depending on how far it's taken) the rights of the mother and pro-choice eliminates the rights of the infant.

Two sides to that coin.

i'll grant fetuses rights when they start paying taxes.  damned deadbeat resource-sucking welfare bums.  i bet they're all on drugs.

Original Post by ignayshus:

wait... House lies all the time

 but never about his motives. plus Hugh Laurie is an old-guy hottie. :)

Original Post by kathygator:

Original Post by crazineko:

Original Post by ignayshus:

::does not care for House, but my wife does and it comes on before Fringe, so I watch anyway::

 See, I am trying to get into fringe but I just can't!  Sadness.

 Tvo Fringe because The Mentalist is cool too. Yes I admit it another TV crush on Simon Baker. :)

 i like the mentalist, too.  because i have a TV crush on robin tunney.

Original Post by pgeorgian:

Original Post by ignayshus:

@448 - pro-life limits/eliminates (depending on how far it's taken) the rights of the mother and pro-choice eliminates the rights of the infant.

Two sides to that coin.

i'll grant fetuses rights when they start paying taxes.  damned deadbeat resource-sucking welfare bums.  i bet they're all on drugs.

Ha! You complete me, Pg. :D

Original Post by ignayshus:

wait... House lies all the time

 i lie, too.

Original Post by kathygator:

Ha! You complete me, Pg. :D

 oooh - that's kinda sexy, 'gator!

Original Post by pgeorgian:

Original Post by ignayshus:

@448 - pro-life limits/eliminates (depending on how far it's taken) the rights of the mother and pro-choice eliminates the rights of the infant.

Two sides to that coin.

i'll grant fetuses rights when they start paying taxes.  damned deadbeat resource-sucking welfare bums.  i bet they're all on drugs.

i see wut u did der...

*bows*

Original Post by pgeorgian:

i'll grant fetuses rights when they start paying taxes.  

Why not extend it till they get a job? Abortion till 16 years of age unless they pay taxes YAY!!!!

Original Post by ignayshus:

Original Post by crazineko:

Original Post by ignayshus:

::does not care for House, but my wife does and it comes on before Fringe, so I watch anyway::

 See, I am trying to get into fringe but I just can't!  Sadness.

In all fairness, it's awesomeness is blinding... perhaps it's just too much for you to handle :)

 I think perhaps you might be right.  Although I do like the crazy mad scientist dad.  he's a hoot.

::does not have the tivo or the tv::

::uses friends slingbox though::

Am certain something of Palin will become part of the lexicon. I can only hope it's 'Palin-esque'. :D

Original Post by itsbutters:

Original Post by pgeorgian:

i'll grant fetuses rights when they start paying taxes.  

Why not extend it till they get a job? Abortion till 16 years of age unless they pay taxes YAY!!!!

That would make spiro's day ;)

Original Post by kathygator:

Original Post by ignayshus:

wait... House lies all the time

 but never about his motives. plus Hugh Laurie is an old-guy hottie. :)

 Who happens to have an amazingly sexy accent!  You forgot that part Kathy.  Tsk tsk.

Original Post by kathygator:

Am certain something of Palin will become part of the lexicon. I can only hope it's 'Palin-esque'. :D

i think all my favourite palinisms are really feyisms.

Gotta admit am digging all these tough female cop types: Robin Tunney, the FBI blonde in Fringe, but my favorite is Grace. :)

Original Post by pgeorgian:

Original Post by kathygator:

Am certain something of Palin will become part of the lexicon. I can only hope it's 'Palin-esque'. :D

i think all my favourite palinisms are really feyisms.

 especially when the line is word for word from the actual transcript. although am not certain if I ought to be more scared than amused.

i do love grace.  and (shhhh - don't tell anyone) i have to admit that holly hunter is my thinspiration.  cuz she's kick ass and she's in her 40s.

Original Post by crazineko:

Original Post by moonikins:

Crazi, I think you purposely answered my questions that way out of spite. I don't think for a minute you misunderstood.

So tell me:

Why do most of the attempts at making school prayer mandatory in public school come from conservatives if conservatives generally believe they don't have the right to push their religion on others?

Do I generally think conservatives believe in the separation of church and state?  I do.   It’s to what extent that most will have their differences.  Our country was based on Judeo-Christian  values

 Actually, it wasn't.  The founding fathers took great care not to involve God/religion in the original constitution.  Later politicians are the ones who shoe-horned religion in. 

Original Post by crazineko:

Original Post by moonikins:

 

Why do most of the attempts to have creationism taught alongside evolution come from conservatives if conservatives generally believe they don't have the right to push their religious beliefs on others?

As I stated previously, millions and millions of Americans believe that something designed the universe and our world.  The theory of evolution isn’t exactly nailed down yet, and I definitely think, as many do, that this should be mentioned when teaching.  Do I think it should go something like” In the beginning, God created heaven and the earth…” no.  I don’t see this as conservatives pushing religious beliefs on others.

 The fact that millions and millions of Americans believe something doesn't make it appropriate to teach in school - and certainly not in science class.  Millions and millions of Americans believe that anything with the word "salad" in it is, by definition, healthy and low-cal.  There's no evidence either way as to whether or not a God was involved in the evolution of life, and there's no experiment that could ever be devised to prove/disprove it - so that particular theory doesn't belong in science class.

If I'm misinterpreting your suggestion - and you actually mean that it would be great to have a World Religions course exploring all the different creation stories believed by people around the world (and therefore by people in America), that's a different kettle of fish entirely.  I took a similar course in high school (looked at the religions in general, though, rather than focusing on their creation stories) and it was fascinating.  But.  It's.  Not.  Science.  (Sorry for the vehemence; this one's a pet peeve of mine.)

Original Post by pgeorgian:

i do love grace.  and (shhhh - don't tell anyone) i have to admit that holly hunter is my thinspiration.  cuz she's kick ass and she's in her 40s.

 agree. :)