Ok, I am the mother of a sweet 15 yr old girl. She informed me that someone created a hateful and evil profile of her on myspace. I checked it out, and was sickened by what I saw and read. They took a picture of her and drew obscenties all over it. They wrote unspeakable things about her. I have been awake since 5 this morning, just sick to my stomach.
My question is....do I have any recourse besides having myspace remove the profile? I am so mad and just physically sick about it.
Any of you techies have any ideas as to finding out who did this? Any help or ideas are appreciated.
Original Post by cellulitedelight:
I still firmly believe kids, especially teenagers who think nothing can happen to them because they're stupid teenagers, should be punished for their actions and realise the severity of the situation.
I concur. We all test the bounds of the law and good taste as we grow up, and as part of that, we NEED TO KNOW that... making bad choices leads to ugly consequences.
Original Post by cnjjeanmard:
Well, Ness, it bothered me more than it did her. If you have read all the posts from the beginning, this was someone who knows her, and sent friend requests to all of her friends from this evil profile. She did not just post something evil, she sent it to all of her friends to defame her. That was totally over the line and unacceptable in my book.
I had read some of the posts already and I figured something like that was done. In fact, I thought the culprit had gone further and somehow told a good portion of the school (not just her friends).
Like I said, I can understand why YOU would be concerned. I was saying that I don't think SHE should be too concerned over it.
@Cellulitedelight
I'm 20 now. So I was fifteen five years ago. I was fifteen back in 2003, when things like goatse, tubgirl, and lemonparty were mainstream. I cut my net surfing teeth just as the internet really started to get twisted. By this time, all the kids that were talking to each other on AOL in 1998 and 1999 had began to enter puberty and the internet provided them a way to rebel without their parents knowing about it. From this onslaught of shock sites and internet pranks rose the internet equivalent to Spartans: invincible soldiers that could take anything the internet threw at them and give it back 20 fold.
Compared to the stuff we were doing to each other over the internet five years ago, a mean Myspace page is child's play. Heck, something like that would have gotten the culprit made fun of for being so lame instead of the victim.
And then as if by nature, just as the Spartans had risen before, the opposite rose in 2005. These kids took the internet more seriously, too seriously. These were the kids who would overdose and live in fear over things said about them on the net. It didn't help that the few remaining Spartans were quick to take advantage of this new wimpy breed of netsurfers. And thus laws about online harassment and cyberbullying were born. Now the only Spartans you see are locked in the archives of ancient messageboards, 300 fansites, and Halo screenshots.
I guess this proves that a cluster of warriors can be killed off by a bunch of oversensitive kids. And that is my soapbox.
Original Post by ness757:
Original Post by cnjjeanmard:
Well, Ness, it bothered me more than it did her. If you have read all the posts from the beginning, this was someone who knows her, and sent friend requests to all of her friends from this evil profile. She did not just post something evil, she sent it to all of her friends to defame her. That was totally over the line and unacceptable in my book.
I had read some of the posts already and I figured something like that was done. In fact, I thought the culprit had gone further and somehow told a good portion of the school (not just her friends).
Like I said, I can understand why YOU would be concerned. I was saying that I don't think SHE should be too concerned over it.
@Cellulitedelight
I'm 20 now. So I was fifteen five years ago. I was fifteen back in 2003, when things like goatse, tubgirl, and lemonparty were mainstream. I cut my net surfing teeth just as the internet really started to get twisted. By this time, all the kids that were talking to each other on AOL in 1998 and 1999 had began to enter puberty and the internet provided them a way to rebel without their parents knowing about it. From this onslaught of shock sites and internet pranks rose the internet equivalent to Spartans: invincible soldiers that could take anything the internet threw at them and give it back 20 fold.
Compared to the stuff we were doing to each other over the internet five years ago, a mean Myspace page is child's play. Heck, something like that would have gotten the culprit made fun of for being so lame instead of the victim.
And then as if by nature, just as the Spartans had risen before, the opposite rose in 2005. These kids took the internet more seriously, too seriously. These were the kids who would overdose and live in fear over things said about them on the net. It didn't help that the few remaining Spartans were quick to take advantage of this new wimpy breed of netsurfers. And thus laws about online harassment and cyberbullying were born. Now the only Spartans you see are locked in the archives of ancient messageboards, 300 fansites, and Halo screenshots.
I guess this proves that a cluster of warriors can be killed off by a bunch of oversensitive kids. And that is my soapbox.
Nah I think that it is more serious now because people actually are doing things to other people. Just look at the recent bunch of videos getting put online of kids beating the **** out of each other (or more so ganging up on one person).
Original Post by pgeorgian:
warriors, ness? there's nothing warrior-like about anonymous harrassment. it's cowardly. grow up.
I was referring to the ability to take a hit. Offense isn't important because comments on the internet don't matter. What is important is that you realize that comments on the internet don't matter. Then you just don't care, and that's when you've got it right. If not letting what people say on the internet get to me makes me immature, then I don't want to grow up.
Original Post by vicereine:
Nah I think that it is more serious now because people actually are doing things to other people. Just look at the recent bunch of videos getting put online of kids beating the **** out of each other (or more so ganging up on one person).
I agree, that is messed up. It is also a totally different issue. I'm referring to a bunch of kids getting together and making a hateful webpage about someone. I don't see why anyone has a reason to get all hurt about it (see my post about being pranked in highschool).
If someone is getting beat up and attacked, and that video happens to get posted on the internet that is is different. That is a dangerous event that has happened in real life and was posted on the internet. Someone got hurt for real and action should be taken. Likewise, if an anti-Ness webpage came up calling for violent action against me, I would be concerned. But if they are just sitting around telling each other how much I suck, then I'm not going to worry about it.
Well, Ness, girls are different. Had you been a 15 year old girl, this might of made you feel differently. She totally wanted to blow it off and not make a big deal. She is a self-confident, beautiful and popular girl who was attacked by someone who was intimidated by her. It was out of her mind within a few days-It was me that said "I don't think so". Don't ever understimate how hateful teenage girls can be.
Original Post by cnjjeanmard:
Well, Ness, girls are different. Had you been a 15 year old girl, this might of made you feel differently. She totally wanted to blow it off and not make a big deal. She is a self-confident, beautiful and popular girl who was attacked by someone who was intimidated by her. It was out of her mind within a few days-It was me that said "I don't think so". Don't ever understimate how hateful teenage girls can be.
How is that different? It sounds to me like she is doing what I did when I got pranked. She's not making a big deal out of it and it was out of her head within a few days. It sounds to me like she was doing what the advice I gave suggested: not worrying about it.
Original Post by ness757:
Original Post by vicereine:
Nah I think that it is more serious now because people actually are doing things to other people. Just look at the recent bunch of videos getting put online of kids beating the **** out of each other (or more so ganging up on one person).
I agree, that is messed up. It is also a totally different issue. I'm referring to a bunch of kids getting together and making a hateful webpage about someone. I don't see why anyone has a reason to get all hurt about it (see my post about being pranked in highschool).
If someone is getting beat up and attacked, and that video happens to get posted on the internet that is is different. That is a dangerous event that has happened in real life and was posted on the internet. Someone got hurt for real and action should be taken. Likewise, if an anti-Ness webpage came up calling for violent action against me, I would be concerned. But if they are just sitting around telling each other how much I suck, then I'm not going to worry about it.
It is something to worry about if it affects your potential education and employment goals. A fake web page of me sucking a guy's **** or starting rumors and "sitting around telling each other how much I suck" and other negative aspects about me could really have an effect on me becoming an English teacher or professor if the school board saw it.
Original Post by bettypage4:
First, good for you cnjjeanmard. Thank god there are some good mothers out there.
To ness757, peacecalilove has a point. Employers google you and look you up on facebook. Since I work in HR, I don't look people up because 1) it's none of my business and 2) I just don't want to know unless it involves what we pay you for; and 3) I already know way too much, sometimes really disgusting, personal stuff, about the employees. I don't need to know more. But there are lots of people who DO google and search for their employees on networking sites. At the very least, it's good to get this page taken down
If you are truly worried that it is going to affect you in real life, then do something about it. Just don't cry yourself to sleep and/or kill yourself over it. That's the point I was trying to make. And if you aren't worried that it will affect you later in life, then why care?
*edit*
I took out the rest of this post. No need to keep the battle going.
Whether I'm wrong or not, the important thing is to make sure none hurts/kills himself or herself over this stuff. That's the point I was trying to make with my first post.
I knew people who used to cut themselves over high school drama. The drama became irrelevant after a few weeks, but the scars from the cuts stayed much longer.
As for Google, I put my name in and it looks like I've been branded as a Democrat. I'm not complaining (because I am one), but it looks like I can't work for John McCain. 
I didn't think I'd be in there at all.
LOL, I just Googled my old website and found it in a signature in an account I made for a forum I didn't even remember joining. But that was definitely me. Wow, I even gave dating advice to someone. One day, I will merge myself with the Internet and only then will I fully remember myself.
Hey thats great news that they found out who it was...luckfully the people who did it where very "computer smart" because if they where that would have known that they could have easily of argued and probably won in court, do to the fact that there is a thing call IP buffing, in a quick sum of what it is, is that you can ezly chance your IP to anything you want with a number of programs. And if they obtained a MAC address (which is kinds of like a FCC number) can also be buffed and with those two things its hard to tell who it really was...
Just happy in the end it all worked out in your favor, minus the horrible thing that the kid did to your daughter
Where did you find this old gem?
well considering my stepfather works for microsoft and is a well respected secrutiy consultant, and my real dad owns a computer bussiness, iv naturaly have a wealth of info on computers
google "ip spoofing" or "mac spoofing"
I did. Neither one brought up this thread.
all i was saying something as small as this from the goverments point of view they prolly would not do much more than look at an IP or MAC addy.. and if the defenitent brought up that both of these can be changed with a simple and free program then they would have prolly of just dismissed the case..
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