Just a food idea for someone who wants to eat something luscious

Pancakes with ice cream, whip cream, and pie filling. I'm nowhere near being able to conquer something like that, but for those of you who are at the stage where you've conquered fear foods, the above is totally delicous and crammed with calories, and would be really good for treating yourself or as a reward for doing well in recovery...

It's a nice recommendation but rather than enjoying it vicariously by writing it down for others, how about you go order some for yourself?  You deserve something that's really good for you and a treat for doing well just as much as everyone else.    Pancakes and other luscious foods don't exist to be 'conquered', just eaten..... dead easy really and not scary at all.

You're very rational, gi-jane. That's right, luscious foods exist to be enjoyed, and as an aspiring cinematographer and poet, I ought to understand the inherant beauty in lusciousness.

But I just thought it would be a really great thing for people to try if they haven't had it yet.

As for me, I have only just admitted to myself that I have anorexia - and I am totally not to the point where I could eat something like that. People talk about having 'fear foods' - I'm just afraid of food, period. I am working really hard at stopping juice fasting, but I'm not doing so good by myself and I wonder if I need to go into a treatment program but I cannot afford anything and I have no insurance, except I do live in a socialist country and so am covered by general health insurance, don't know if they would cover a recovery program?

Anyway, I'm trying to motivate myself by posting encouraging things for others who are farther along than I am. I'm just at the beginning of the beginning of my own recovery...

Echo: It's good you've admitted it but you have to start being selfish. It's no good encouraging others if you're not in it for yourself too. Even if you aren't certain you'll be covered go talk to someone, because it is always better to ask and find out then not know for sure and drag things out. Recovery is better done with assistance. Particularly in your case, if you can't bring yourself to even eat. Start doing this for you, with your first step being reaching out to a doctor.

I like my pancakes better with almond butter, raisins, flaxseeds, and REAL maple syrup. Mmmm...

Ice cream, whipped cream... pie filling? Not so nutritious. At least with almonds and flax you get the best of both worlds, although for someone trying to mentally recover it might be better to switch it up a little every now and then. There's really no reason to need to eat junk food though.

why don't you make some and share it with someone ? :) that way you could stop eating if you find it totally overwhelming

Zeb: I disagree somewhat. Part of balanced diet is having some "junk" once in a while. If the girl fancies pancakes, pie filling and whipped cream then let her have it, heh. Plus, in early recovery, it's usually better to just start getting back into the swing eating before you fret about balance of foods. As time goes on and you adjust to eating more again you can start looking at what's better for you in general.

You know what's awesome on pancakes? I mean as in crepe typethin pancakes, English pancakes, not Scotch ones ( the thicker, bulkier ones) NUTELLA!

Or even better, lemon juice and REAL brown sugar.
Or maple syrup is meant to be good, but I've never tried it :/

Eeee pancakes are a ff i forgot about! So I'll need to go make some sometime soon. I think I'm at the stage where im getting sooo good at telling ED to fxck it. Only cause of you guys and the support of my friends and stuff though. I LOVE YAA ALL :')
And offtopic but I may have failed my maths prelim but something has put me in a good mood right now about recovery. Imma gonna eat a biiiig bowl of cereal for snack later :')

xxxxx

 I'm sorry Lala, I didn't really realise what I was saying there... you're right - worrying about complex nutritional balance paired with the stress of having a meal plan and going through recovery would be a lot of burden for someone who's just beginning. Or, for anyone in general really.

I wasn't implying that you should NEVER eat foods like that, I was just making note that it's not completely VITAL that you eat lots of "treats" while trying to recover or gain. It's probobly just because my family tries to tell me that the only things with "calories" to help me gain are fatty dairy products, meats, and snacks. There are plenty of foods that are very healthful that have just the same amount of calories/fat for gainers - calorie intake is really the only thing that regulates weight anyway.

Treats are okay in moderation of course, I just get tired of my mom trying to tell me that "I don't eat any fat" just because I don't typically eat a lot of animal fats. Heck, I probobly take in about 80 grams of fat a day from plant, nut, and fish sources, while my mom probobly only gets about 10 or 20 since she eats NO fat and pretty much only eats cereal, fat-free meal replacement shakes, skim milk, apples, and whatever we are making for dinner, which is usually something pretty healthy and practical - no deep dish pizza or anything.

Ooh, that's okay. I figured you may have meant that junkfood isn't the ONLY thing you need to gain weight. Totally agreeing on the fats front, though. My sister reckons I don't eat any fats while I stand there eating cashews right in front of her. >>;

Agreed on what you're saying about calorie intake being what determines weight at the end of the day. Nutrition becomes important to keep the body functioning but early in recovery it is better to just introduce food first with a sketchier sense of balance before you sort out ratios. I personally ate SO much junk at the start of recovery. Not because I felt it was the only way to gain, but because I just wanted food back in my life! I ate so much custard! >__< With a then undiagnosed lactose intolerance, that wasn't the best thing... lol.

Original Post by dollymixtures:

You know what's awesome on pancakes? I mean as in crepe typethin pancakes, English pancakes, not Scotch ones ( the thicker, bulkier ones) NUTELLA!

Or even better, lemon juice and REAL brown sugar.
Or maple syrup is meant to be good, but I've never tried it :/

 

umm YUM! ice cream is also really nice on crepe style pancakes, with squirty chocolate sauce. 

i bet PB and banana is nice too although ive never tried it.. mmmmm

Banana is AMAZING on pancakes - especially if it's really ripe and mushy. ^^ I like to mix it right into the batter along with walnuts and have banana bread pancakes. It works just as well if you just add slices of banana to the top-side of the pancakes while cooking them though. Then you get little "banana rings". It also goes well with extra dark chocolate chips, if you can find them (might have to look at Whole Foods or something).

Original Post by dollymixtures:

Or maple syrup is meant to be good, but I've never tried it :/

 I'm Canadian, so that statement is SHOCKING to me.  Proper maple syrup...so delicious.  SO DELICIOUS!!!  Try it, try it now!  On fat pancakes, or waffles or ice cream.

My favourite pancake topping? Good old lemon juice and sugar! Lol.

A good combination is maple syrup, blueberries, strawberries, and greek yoghurt. And for savoury fans: vegetable curry? Plus a thin pancake (like a crepe)? HEAVENLY. Pancakes: not just for pudding!

Original Post by lalabanana:

A good combination is maple syrup, blueberries, strawberries, and greek yoghurt. And for savoury fans: vegetable curry? Plus a thin pancake (like a crepe)? HEAVENLY. Pancakes: not just for pudding!

 That's the only way I like good ol' fage!  Mixed with jelly/pie filling, granola, and syrup - mmmm :)

BTW-fage full fat is a GREAT way to get filling nutritious calories.  You get a lot of bang for your buck.  Just beware--it really fills you up even if it appears to be high enough cal to help you eat more!

Ooft it seems I've been ordered to try maple syrup :')
Next time I go shopping I will defo get some. I can imagine honey is nice on pancakes too? Honey and blueberries! But yeah, as I said on shrove tuesday it was always traditional for me my mum and brother to make pancakes with lemon and sugar. And I'd toss them, and miss the pan and like burn them all on the stove :(

I know it's kind of off topic now, and I really don't mean to be harsh echo, but to me it seems very eating disordered to post on here suggesting delicious foods that you have no intention of eating yourself... Just thinking of my own personal experience when I used to turn up at school with boxes of pastries and cakes and give them out to other people, or make my brother the most enormous luxurious sandwiches and bagels then watch him eat them... The harsh term for it is 'fat-feeding' - I'm not suggesting that you're being malicious in any way, but I don't think people should post foodie suggestions on here unless they're what they themselves are going, have, or would be comfortable with eating. Just to keep it all in the name of health ;-)

Mashed, you beat me too it! I was planning to post the exact same thing. The disordered desire to "feed" other people aside, I don't understand the point of your post. People aren't able to think of different pancake toppings on their own?

Everyone - I love all the pancake topping suggestions I'm getting on here, especially a whole bunch I'd never even heard of or thought of trying before. BTW, butter, peanut butter, and honey or maple syrup is totally delicious for those of you who'd never tries those on their pancakes before.

Mashed tatties - 'It seems very eating disordered of you'... well that would make sense seeing as how I HAVE an eating disorder. It's called anorexia. And just because you're farther along into your recovery doesn't mean you have to bash me for it. You guys may be busy eating 3000-4000 calories a day, and all the power to you. I'm not there yet. I'm struggling to eat, period. But at least I'm trying. And I've seen tons of great high calorie recipes constantly being posted on this site, so I don't see the problem with posting another recipe? Besides, it reminds me of a goal to work towards. I get inspired and motivated by recipes, because it reminds me of how delicious and beautiful food and eating is supposed to be. And, speaking of 'fat-feeding' and 'in the name of health' - there's no reason why the above recipe can't be healthy. You can make pancakes purely from health food ingredients, you can make whip cream from organic whole milk cream, you can have soy ice cream or rice ice cream or make it yourself with organic cream and honey or stevia, and you can make your own pie filling with garden picked fruits and honey or stevia. There's no reason it has to be unhealthy. Add nuts too!

Charliebo - about the 'disordered desire to feed other people'... I don't see anything wrong with posting a great recipe I thought people could enjoy especially if it's something they'd never tried before. Besides, I LOVE cooking, and want to get into food photography, and was considering CHEF SCHOOL before I developed an eating disorder. Loving to create delicious recipes for other people to enjoy is the whole point of being a chef. As for the 'people aren't able to think of pancake toppings on their own'... obviously if you'd read the post there are a lot of people who'd never even heard of or tried putting certain things on their pancakes before, so it was great to get to exchange recipe ideas. Also things tend to be regional or cultural - I knew of a Dutch person who always put salt in their oatmeal and on their grapefruit, and had never heard of putting brown sugar on either until they met a Austrian who'd grown up doing that. And obviously, if people could 'think up' every food idea on their own, no-one would ever post recipes or create cookbooks. The fact that tons of people posted their own unique pancake ideas on here is proof of they fact they have no problem with an exchange of recipe ideas.

omg, life is not made of food!  there are other things to talk about, this nonstop talk of food is not helpful and only drags out your attempt at recpvery, ppl dont sit around talking about food! stop it!

echo I didn't mean 'fat feeding' in the sense that you are trying to feed other people 'fat' or 'unhealthy' food, I meant that because of your eating disorder, you are basically transferring the desire YOU have to eat these pancakes onto the people on this forum because YOUR ED will not let YOU have them.

I wasn't trying to be super accusative, I just wanted to point out that in your post, I recognised a behaviour that was characterised by ED when I was in my darkest days. I still have a tendency to do it now with my brother, but I try to restrain myself haha.

Re: recovery - try not to make assumptions about how far people have come/how much they're eating. I'm still being threatened with section and IP. I'm not exactly 'there' yet, I'm just trying the best I can and to help others as much as I can. I meant to *help* you by replying to this thread, not upset you.