food vices that challenge "nothing TASTES as good as THIN/HEALTHY feels"

so, what are your food weaknesses that really make you wonder if it's all worth it...just for fun, obviously we are all committed to our goals but which foods are the hardest to give up? well, the originals at least, i've made substitutions for all of these and still eat them but in terms of "regular" foods...`

sweet cold: definitely ice cream, OR frappuccinos

sweet hot: definitely fatty chocolate milk

sweet pastry: apple pie or cheesecake

sweet breakfast: muffins

lunch: fast food burritos...bean and cheese with chips and salsa

dinner: fettucine alfredo with broccoli and shrimp, bread

snack: hot cheetoes with nacho cheese

these things are terrible for you, and i guess i wouldn't eat them regardless of what they would do to my wasteline because they are unhealthy plain and simple. i have some of them occasionally, or a healthier version [like ice cream] regularly, but the originals i try to keep to a minimum :)

what are yours??

I try to avoid a mentality in which eating certain things is associated with abandoning my goals.  There is nothing in the world that I have forbidden myself from eating, so there is nothing that makes me want to throw away my lifestyle just so I can have it.  Moderation, not deprivation, is what makes it possible for me to progress.  I feel like if there were certain foods that I considered 'vice' foods and that I decided to cut out entirely, though, I would absolutely be wondering 'if it is all worth it' -um- all the time.

Just today I ate a biscuit (made with heavy cream and butter) with rhubarb-strawberry pie filling and real whipped cream.  I ate healthy the rest of the day, feel no guilt, and am still going to have a nice deficit as usual.  Definitely not healthy, but I don't feel 'off the wagon' for having it, either. :)

Original Post by coreyander:

I try to avoid a mentality in which eating certain things is associated with abandoning my goals.  There is nothing in the world that I have forbidden myself from eating, so there is nothing that makes me want to throw away my lifestyle just so I can have it.  Moderation, not deprivation, is what makes it possible for me to progress.  I feel like if there were certain foods that I considered 'vice' foods and that I decided to cut out entirely, though, I would absolutely be wondering 'if it is all worth it' -um- all the time.

Just today I ate a biscuit (made with heavy cream and butter) with rhubarb-strawberry pie filling and real whipped cream.  I ate healthy the rest of the day, feel no guilt, and am still going to have a nice deficit as usual.  Definitely not healthy, but I don't feel 'off the wagon' for having it, either. :)

these are the posts that i specifically wanted to avoid...i eat what i want as well...that wasn't the purpose of this thread...if you don't have an answer to the post don't answer, it is belittling when people respond in this way. perhaps i'm overly sensitive but i just hate it when people say, "well that doesn't apply to me" as if their way of life and going about things is better. i'm not saying that this was your intention, but i too have my treats. the question is more hypothetical...which foods are THAT GOOD...that you "shouldn't have" and make you weak so to speak. i just had a blueberry muffin as i type this, so that isn't really my point. everything in moderation right?? well, i'm sure you wouldn't have had that biscuit along with a crap ton of equally bad things...so the biscuit is probably one of "those foods". do you get what i'm saying??

sorry if this seems mean, not intentional, just want to express my feelings because i often feel that people like to be combative for the sake of it, not really to be productive to other members of the CC community. this is a fun post, so only respond with ACTUAL FOODS PLEASE...and maybe comments that align with the thread topic. thanks :)

BROWNIES: OMG,  I love how when they are perfectly cooked they are slightly shiney, hold their shape, and are a combination of fudge and cake in my mouth. Wow, that was food porn, sorry, but I miss them so much. Although, I if I am really careful, I can manage to squeeze a very small brownie in to my calorie count.  It makes the whole diet thing a little easier to handle if I am merely cutting down, not eliminating some of the tastiest creations in the world.

BAKED POTATOES: with at least half a stick of butter.  I love the crispy, drippy skin the best.  I used to put worcestershire sauce on the skins with a little salt and tons of freshly ground black pepper.

CHEESEBURGERS and FRIES:  The extra juicy burgers with all of the fixings and the super crunchy, extra salty fries.

POT ROAST: Slow cooked heaven, with Yukon gold potatoes and tons of carrots.

HOMEMADE CHICKEN POT PIE: I used to make this regularly with home roasted chicken, homemade pan gravy, peas, carrots, pearl onions, potatoes and a chipotle-cheddar biscuit crust.  Now it is relegated to the weekend after Thanksgiving and maybe one other time per year.

DOVE TRIPLE CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM BARS: if there is no Ben and Jerry's around they will do.

Those are my absolute favorites.

edited for spelling 

Hot fudge sundaes.

Chocolate cake donuts with glaze.

Homemade tacos.

French fries.

Plain Lay's

Tortilla chips from the mexican restaurant.

BROWNIES! Like the poster above me described! Warm from the oven, slightly chewy on the sides, gooey in the middle. Topped with full fat vanilla ice cream from my favourite ice cream shop. Ohhhh my. ♥

Warm, right out of the oven, chocolate chip COOKIES. Like the brownies. Slighty crispy and chewy on the outside, warm and gooey in the middle. Letting the chocolate chips slowly melt in your mouth.

I haven't craved these things TOO much yet, but when I really do crave them, I'll probably indulge in a little. I'm waiting for my perfect time to 'cheat' though, lol.

Im super strict - I dont "treat" because too often its a trigger but Im the healthy low cal foods I do eat I sure do enjoy.

HEALTHY VICE: Peanuts or Peanut Butter, got it back to controlled portions but Ive had to give it up at times when I would lose at limits.

UNHEALTHY BUT UNAVAILABLE  SO IF I'D THE CHANCE PROBABLY WOULD MAKE AN EXCEPTION:
Canolli
Creme Brulee
Italian stuffed artichoke (with breading)

UNHEALTHY BUT NOT SO RARE TO CONSIDER EATING, JUST DAMNING ITS EXISTANCE
Garlic Bread
Shrimp scampi with lobster alfredo pasta
Brownice Fudge Sundae

TAKEOUT EVILS THAT HAUNT
Panda Express ribs/crispy shrimp/lomein/eggroll
Jack In The Box Tacos
McD Fries
Whopper

Yay - off my chest and not excess calories consumed.

Cheese and alcoholic beverages.

I let myself have both in small amounts, but I can't keep most types of cheese in the house anymore (an oz. of gouda just isn't enough) and I can't get some of the yummy drinks anymore because they're just way out of my calorie budget (and come in too big of glasses). Like pina coladas. I love pina coladas, but now I make myself stick to rum and coke.

Ice cream, cheese and nuts (and nut butters). My three great weaknesses. *sigh*

Yes, I know two of them are very healthy, but the small portions is what I have most trouble with. And after getting used to eating clean, I seldom crave any excessively sweet/salty/fatty junk food.

Cheese, all cheese!

Peanut butter

Brownies

yoghurt/chocolate covered brazil nuts

Almonds and cashews

Raisins/ banana chips, any dried fruit

Bread

I cannot allow myself to buy any of the above any more because I can't limit myself to reasonable portions :(

A big part of "dieting" for me is keeping indulgences to things I LOVE - not things other people love, or I'm supposed to love because they're bad for you.

I have pretty healthy tastes. Generally I prefer the "healthy" option at most restaurants - it truly sounds the best to me. I LOVE gigantic homemade spinach salads with a light balsamic vinaigrette, grilled shrimp, and roasted red peppers. Those are the kind of foods that get me excited. My favorite lunch is sauteed spinach, mushrooms, and onions with 1 oz of melted swiss cheese on a hearty toasted multigrain bread. I don't get excited over pizza, cheeseburgers, fried chicken, french fries, any of that stuff.

But ice cream? Home-made high quality creamy delicious not sugar free or frozen yogurt ICE CREAM. I cannot pass up! Especially the kinds with stuff in it - moosetracks is my favorite. I know people have a million brands of light slow churned whatever that only has 100 calories per half cup, but it's never going to satisfy me. And when my boyfriend asks if I want to go to my favorite middle-of-nowhere out of the way ice cream stand with no nutrition facts listed anywhere because they make everything from scratch and don't even HAVE a website - it's not going to keep me from saying no. And I love a sweet/salty combination so I'll have my 1 scoop of moosetracks in a pretzel cone please.

That leads me to my second vice - chocolate covered pretzels. The kind that come from a candy store with thick thick DARK chocolate. SO good. 

Homemade deserts in general really get me excited - the creamy rich kind. None of this angel food cake with cool whip crap for me. Fudgy dark chocolate cake with buttercream icing. Mmmmm

I'm clearly a girl with a sweet tooth :-P

Oh that seems fun!

Sweets

DQ Brownie Blizzard (Ok I never had it but I'm pretty sure I would like it! I mean, it's Chocolate Ice Cream + Brownie chunks!)

Tiramisu

Big Top Muffins (But I hate how they leave me with this ''full'' filling for hours!)

Salty

Potatoes Wedges (It's like French fries but 100x better)

Pizza (THICK crust, please!)

That's all the ''unhealthy'' foods I can think of!

chrissy...EVERYTHING you mentioned is on my list!  I have a particular weakness for baked goods, as I absolutely love to bake and want to open my own bakery someday (too poor at the moment :( )  In any case, I will add some others as well!

Pasta Con Broccoli:  That delicious creation of shell pasta with a heavy cream and marinara sauce...no matter if it has broccoli and mushroom, it is absolutely DECADENT! 

Brownies/Chocolate Chip Cookies:  homemade of course!  My Italian in-laws (especially my brother in law) want me to bring baked goods when we visit them, so I always have to try to resist eating ALL of them before we even leave.  I, of course, indulge in one during the visit, but it is difficult!

Tortilla chips with queso dip:  I LOVE Mexican food, but this is my favorite part.  Luckily, I live in Italy and the Mexican food is kind of a really, really bad imitation, so I am not confronted with this temptation often...and I usually have it as a treat when I go back to the US to visit the family.

Candy: I have a huge weakness for candy.  I could eat it all day...so it definitely makes me question my diet (of course, I always remember my health...).  Again, luckily I live in Italy where only the dark chocolate is delicious.  Right now I have a friend at the Embassy who can buy me Skittles from the commissary though...AH!

Pina Coladas, Mojitos, and Beer:  Over-indulging in alcohol was probably my one vice (and oddly it only started when I moved to another continent) but for the sake of both my waistline and my liver, I decided to go easy, first by reducing it to once a week, then giving it up.  I may have a beer or two during parties/weddings, but otherwise my days of recreational drinking are finito.

White Bread: Hot, fresh white bread right out of the oven, with a bit of margarine on it tastes godly, but it's also got all the nutrients of cardboard.

Cinnamon Buns: These were a once-in-a-while thing anyways, but man were they good - especially the very centre with a ton of cinnamon inside.

My only true vice is pastries, especially cakes.
A couple of weeks ago I made a Pillsbury Cinnamon Swirl cake and I ended up eating about 75% of it in less than six hours--despite the box saying there should be 14 servings

Original Post by chrissy1988:

Original Post by coreyander:

I try to avoid a mentality in which eating certain things is associated with abandoning my goals.  There is nothing in the world that I have forbidden myself from eating, so there is nothing that makes me want to throw away my lifestyle just so I can have it.  Moderation, not deprivation, is what makes it possible for me to progress.  I feel like if there were certain foods that I considered 'vice' foods and that I decided to cut out entirely, though, I would absolutely be wondering 'if it is all worth it' -um- all the time.

Just today I ate a biscuit (made with heavy cream and butter) with rhubarb-strawberry pie filling and real whipped cream.  I ate healthy the rest of the day, feel no guilt, and am still going to have a nice deficit as usual.  Definitely not healthy, but I don't feel 'off the wagon' for having it, either. :)

these are the posts that i specifically wanted to avoid...i eat what i want as well...that wasn't the purpose of this thread...if you don't have an answer to the post don't answer, it is belittling when people respond in this way. perhaps i'm overly sensitive but i just hate it when people say, "well that doesn't apply to me" as if their way of life and going about things is better. i'm not saying that this was your intention, but i too have my treats. the question is more hypothetical...which foods are THAT GOOD...that you "shouldn't have" and make you weak so to speak. i just had a blueberry muffin as i type this, so that isn't really my point. everything in moderation right?? well, i'm sure you wouldn't have had that biscuit along with a crap ton of equally bad things...so the biscuit is probably one of "those foods". do you get what i'm saying??

sorry if this seems mean, not intentional, just want to express my feelings because i often feel that people like to be combative for the sake of it, not really to be productive to other members of the CC community. this is a fun post, so only respond with ACTUAL FOODS PLEASE...and maybe comments that align with the thread topic. thanks :)

My response was not intended to be belittling and I DID list a food - just with a caveat that I try not to think in terms of 'forbidden' foods! 

I think you are being WAY too defensive and if there is a certain type of reply you don't want, just say so.  Frankly, I think you are being combative for the sake of it -- I replied honestly to your thread, speaking to what works for ME, and in no way criticizing your choices. 

That said, if biscuits aren't an actual food, I guess I was totally off topic. Sheesh.

This isn't the typically answer but..... SALMON BELLY!!!! HA HA! I would eat pounds and pounds and gain tons of weight and say: "it was good going down!!!"

Original Post by giasbash6260:

This isn't the typically answer but..... SALMON BELLY!!!! HA HA! I would eat pounds and pounds and gain tons of weight and say: "it was good going down!!!"

what is salmon belly? is there another name for it? i know that certain cuts of meat for example have more technical names...so i was wondering if this does as well...lol. i know i'm a little clueless.

Funny thread!

I'm not really trying to lose weight, but for me eating healthy is feeling really good!

On the other hand, there are some "unhealthy" things that I always make me feel as I want a little more, even when eating more and more is making me sick - some of those make me feel like that, some others never do. I limit the my intakes of that kind of stuff, specially because I don't always have them around, so there's no need to feel sad not to eat them.

- Coppenrath & Wiesen's Cheesecake - my father always complain about the size of the slice I take (as thin as I can cut), but that's the way I like it. Anyway, sometimes I end up eating almost 1/4 of the pie (thin slice by thin slice), and if I kept eating I would never get sick of it!

- The "so artificial but so good" Chocolate Cake that's made by a bakery near my town with some condensed milk frosting in the middle and covered by darkest chocolate glaze or some other flavourful frosting (the cake is so strong that the frosting never takes it's place in flavour) - sometimes it surprisingly appears at parties and then it's the only cake I really want to eat :P It's so addictive (Yet it makes you feel sick after one big slice, because of it's strong flavour);

- Melt chocolate, specially if it was melt with milk - "how many spoons are left in the fondue's bowl?"

- A really good lasagna (by me or my father), a really good calzone (spinach and ricotta or some other good cheese), a really good chili con carne (made by my father), a really good fish rice (also made by my father, or by me), but they aren't that "unhealthy" most of the time! I also love burritos and greek-style pita, but they are also made by me or my father and they are as healthy as they can be...!

- "Broa de passas e nozes" - traditional portuguese thing - a kind of "bread" that's made with corn flour, amongst with rye and wheat, and has raisins and nuts (great one, bought at a bakery nearby!);

- There are some more (I can't remember now!), but I really believe that thin feels better than any food tastes, and I found the tastier foods in "healthy" ones :P my number one vice is fruit! One of the things I use to crave eating is a really good black bean side dish (that's as simple as canned black bean warmed up with garlic and maybe some spices, sometimes a little olive oil) that goes so good with picanha (brazillian-style beef) and I don't really like fried stuff or fatty things such as mayonnaise or whipping cream, so I don't really have "a challenge out there"...!

oh, I forgot Apple Pie and Berry (any of them!) Pie (my father's again, or maybe Coppenrath & Wiesen Pies could do it too).

I also forgot caramel/chocolate/banana stuff (like a pudding-like cake that I make in a deep dish)

and "Tripa com chocolate" from "Zé da Tripa" (something you can only try - from what I know - at Aveiro, Portugal) - although one is enough. It's something like a chocolate crepe, but better ;) I also love my father's pancakes or crepes folded with a piece of chocolate inside so it melts! That's really good!

(sorry about the sooo big - double! - post!)

sweet cold: ben and jerry's icecream

sweet hot: hot chocolate with whipped cream and marshmallows

sweet pastry: cupcakes

sweet breakfast: muffins

lunch: fish and chips

dinner: kfc chicken

snack: cheesey chips

first day of the diet and a carb addict the closest thing i've got to protein lately is chicken in kfc! i'm gonna try and make healthier substitutions to make my diet feel less like a diet and more like a lifestyle change :)

Wacky cake with an inch and a half thick buttercream frosting!  Rich and creamy fettucine alfredo!  Fresh baked white bread (and the house smells delicious) with a gob of melting butter!  McDonald's french fries - supersize!

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!