Is it just me or?
Is it just me or does it seem that ALOT of people on this site are over sensitive to the whole being fat issue. Ok I just was reading a post about how "heavier" people where tipping her as a waiter. Any way every one took the post completely out of hand because she made comment that it appeared that obese people tended to tip her less... But Im sure if her post had been about how skinny people tipped her crappy no one would have made a big deal about it.... And MOST people here seem to take offense to the word "fat", yet it is completely ok to call someone skinny, short or tall. I understand this is a weightloss website, But you guys are taking it way to far. Fat is fact of life. Ok, if your fat, you will at somepoint be called names. Is it right? no, but its going to happen, people with alot of muscle are called meathead or gearheads or knuckle draggers, I could go on forever about different types of bodies and things they get called. My point is, this is life. Come to terms with it... and stop being over sensitive about things, you dont wanna be called fat... its simple lose weight, wanna stop being called a meathead.. stop working out. wanna stop being called a twig start eating.. Im done with my rant.. have at it and call me names, but that makes you no better than you think I am. (that excludes any medical disorders like psychically not being able to do something
well first off that post is superold--- and you would have had to be around when the OP was posting a lot-- a lot of the irritation was directed at her in specific not just at fat people tipping in general.
as to the whole, sensitive about being fat thing, well it is a weightloss site, started for the whole purpose of aiding those of us on the chubby side of life. it has morphed over the years but it is what it is-- and being fat aint no picnic either. if it was a big nose site that was all about healthy nose reductions and all the sudden all these small nosed people started bitching about the big nosed people... im pretty sure the big nosed people would be a trifle sensitive too.
being fat comes with it a whole lot of stereotypes and abusive treatment from people, both real and imagined. be nice if the skinny ones could recognize that and temper their hatred for a lb of extra flesh just a tad, nay, a smidge might be enough.
I read a book called "The Fat Girls Guide to Life" and the author (Wendy Shanker) has a whole chapter about embracing being fat. I call myself fat, I know I may not be what some people call fat, maybe chubby or overweight or heavier or whatever. When it comes down to it, I'm fat. End of story. I think it is just that there is so much negative connotation with the word, not to mention it the tone it which it most often said. There usually isn't a positive lilt in peoples voice, it tends to be disgust (well at least in my experience). I'm with the OP, yes it's a weight loss site, but fat is fat (or we call it adipose-abundant).
I used to be on the bigger side so Iv been on both sides of the fence... I was only using that post as an example.. Theres an old prayer (im not religious but i like it because its relivant even in todays world) "Be granted the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and to have the wisdom to know the difference..." I accepted the fact i couldnt change what people call heavier people, but I knew I could stop being called them by changing how much I weighed.. and I did...
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*fixed... was typing fast and not thinking about spelling
back on topic?
sorry system. I couldnt help myself.
This may only further deviate the topic, but for systemdrop: have you ever seen Hackers? Your name reminds me sooo much of ZeroCool and CrashOverride.
Your alias would have been an excellent addition to the movie.
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I really sit around the house
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Weird Al as offensive. Discuss.
Awww, Weird Al! What a tool!!! I used to love "The Night Santa Went Crazy."
Oh childhood.....
I think calling someone fat can be offensive, it all depends on the context.
I also think people can be overly sensitive.
I'm overly sensitive, so I understand.
Totally agree with the OP....and I too know what it is like on both sides of the fence.... I know what it is like to be overweight, I was called a fat slob, a cow, a waste of space, all those names. Now that I have lost weight, I am called a skinny b!tch, skinny wh0re, and so many other things...which if you really know me, I am none of those things. Honestly people can never just accept you for who you are...that is why I have just stopped caring what people think and just started doing my own thing. I totally understand how it feels to be called fat, I also know what it feels like to be called fat over and over and over and to end up let it defining who I was.
I think why so many people are sensitive to the word "fat" is because they are called out on it in real life and this is supposed to be a place of support and then it is thrown around here too. It is one thing to think something about yourself, but to be called out on it by another person is entirely different.
My only comment is no one should worry about anyone else's weight but their own or by their doctor. Commenting on a person's weight is just ignorance and people should just mind their own damn business. If no one asked you to comment then don't. Then go to school to learn good manners and learn what the word *respect* means.
Ah..Weird Al, is awesome. :)
I mean yes, when one person is being singled out and called fat on the site. there is no need for it.. but when large people are discussed in a general no one should be offended..
As for my name, Yea iv seen the movie hackers, Im rather computer savy and its one of my online handles..
Well don't you just find it a tad ignorant when someone makes a post more or less insulting an overweight person or putting them in a negative light when they are on a WEIGHT LOSS site? That's just putting yourself up for suicide. It's just a very stupid and insensitive thing to do. That's like a republican going onto a democratic board and making a post "why democrats are stupid and don't have the right views." or some sh** like that. I mean, come on!
I have no problem with using fat as a descriptive term (I call my dog Fat Bastard). I have no problem being called fat, I call people I know and love fat to their face with ne'er a second thought. However, I have a problem with is when gross generalisations that are made about people who are fat like that chick did in that thread. I've seen a trend where it's become "ok" to denigrate and vilify overweight people, which is something I won't stand for.
If someone asked "why do all muscleheads have small penises?" I guarantee you'd have something to say about it - likewise I won't keep my mouth shut when someone makes rude generalisations about some other group of people. If that makes me oversensitive, so be it.
Being too fat, and being too thin are both the result of underlying mental problems, which is why there's a difference between pointing out someone's height and someone's weight.
to rampant... and you dont think some people are self consious about there height?.. and that my friend they can do nothing about... someone can get help with theyre ED or theyre obesity... you cant get help with how short or tall you are... so whats worse.. being made fun of for some thing you can change (not saying its easy) or being made fun of something you have no control over?... Im not saying that the post the girl made was correct. what I am saying is that on more than one occasion someone being offended and over reacting to a simple state ment... the statement "why do all muscleheads have small penises?" Is a common sterotype,.. But the post about bigger people leaving less of a tip, could have reaulted because of many things, such as where the Dennies was located, or because obese people tend to eat out at resturants more leading to less of a tip.. it could have been a resault of many things...
Original Post by rampantbunnylove:
Being too fat, and being too thin are both the result of underlying mental problems,
That's a pretty major blanket statement that every underweight or overweight person has mental problems. I'm pretty sure that beign overweight is usually the result of taking in too many calories and that can be caused by something as basic as eating out all teh time and slowly packing on the pounds. Somehow I don't see the mental problem there.
Same thing with losing weight.. alot of vegetarians are under weight and thats by choice
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