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I have just noticed I no longer have friends, just followers or people I follow.  This sounds really impersonal, and I feel that having friends here is what contributes to the community feel.  Friends care about and help each other, whereas followers have no real connection and are more voyeuristic.

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I just found this out as well. Went to check a friends journal and now, I have my community journal.

I feel so unloved and lonely. Must go eat chocolate.

Yeah, I don't like it either. It feels.... creepy. ICK.

'Course if I had friends, they would care.

Now I'm part of a community. Wait, you know, a community and I were chatting over coffee the other day, and we realized we had not seen our dear community lately. We thought we'd phone up our community and confer.

Oh, so I guess no real difference then.

Thanks CC, that really helped.

Count me in as one who does not like the term "Follow" at all. Are we trying to be like Twitter? It may be semantic but I do not use Twitter for the very word.

I also just found out that I am part of a community...we should have the option to have a community and friends!  Or just friends because I consider the forum area the community.

Heah! Yeah? ! Starmole is following me. I am betwixt and between. I don't know if I should be honored, or

walk a little faster.

Original Post by brightmoments:

Heah! Yeah? ! Starmole is following me. I am betwixt and between. I don't know if I should be honored, or

walk a little faster.

The latter!

Original Post by starmole:

Original Post by brightmoments:

Heah! Yeah? ! Starmole is following me. I am betwixt and between. I don't know if I should be honored, or

walk a little faster.

The latter!

the latter? you mean, the bladder ladder? WAIT...stop the presses, I've crossed threads.

*starts to unpick row, unknit one, unpurl two*

Original Post by cajunrider:

Count me in as one who does not like the term "Follow" at all. Are we trying to be like Twitter? It may be semantic but I do not use Twitter for the very word.

So first of all I totally agree with you that followers is less strong than friends, and I also agree that it's an unfortunate side effect of the changes that we're making.

Let me explain why we did that. Friends implies that both people have confirmed the relationship, which - as you're probably aware - is not how CC works. For new people coming to our site and having the understanding of what friends generally means on other sites, it means that they are quite hesitant initiating a friend request worrying that the other person won't recognize them and won't approve the request.

This didn't use to matter much in the past because the only relationships that were being formed were between true friends. People usually met each other on the forums and spent a lot of time talking to each other before discovering a need to friend each other. In other words, while our system was built for asymmetrical relationships, it was being used in a symmetrical way.

Having launched the Calorie Camp, we're noticing that people are starting to initiate those relationships a lot sooner, because now they get to derive value from those people's logs. So CC is turning into a site where your content may be interesting to others even if they've never talked to you. They may want to learn about what you're doing to stay healthy and how they can do the same. Conversely, you may benefit from having more relationships because your logs will be shared with more people and you'll get more likes and comments.

Overall, we believe that the Calorie Camp will result in a much richer social graph for each user, and renaming the relationships from friends to followers is a part of the effort to help those graphs develop. Obviously, it comes at a cost of not being able to refer to your old true friends as friends, but I hope that's a small price to pay in return for ultimately having more people care about your progress.

Original Post by starmole:

Original Post by brightmoments:

Heah! Yeah? ! Starmole is following me. I am betwixt and between. I don't know if I should be honored, or

walk a little faster.

The latter!

Stage 5 clinger...

Me not following.

Could you say that again?

And crucially important to this discussion, are you eeegore or iiigor?

 

 

Original Post by brightmoments:

Me not following.

Could you say that again?

And crucially important to this discussion, are you eeegore or iiigor?

 

 

For friends egor, for followers igor ;)

Original Post by Igor:

Original Post by cajunrider:

Count me in as one who does not like the term "Follow" at all. Are we trying to be like Twitter? It may be semantic but I do not use Twitter for the very word.

So first of all I totally agree with you that followers is less strong than friends, and I also agree that it's an unfortunate side effect of the changes that we're making.

Let me explain why we did that. Friends implies that both people have confirmed the relationship, which - as you're probably aware - is not how CC works. For new people coming to our site and having the understanding of what friends generally means on other sites, it means that they are quite hesitant initiating a friend request worrying that the other person won't recognize them and won't approve the request.

This didn't use to matter much in the past because the only relationships that were being formed were between true friends. People usually met each other on the forums and spent a lot of time talking to each other before discovering a need to friend each other. In other words, while our system was built for asymmetrical relationships, it was being used in a symmetrical way.

Having launched the Calorie Camp, we're noticing that people are starting to initiate those relationships a lot sooner, because now they get to derive value from those people's logs. So CC is turning into a site where your content may be interesting to others even if they've never talked to you. They may want to learn about what you're doing to stay healthy and how they can do the same. Conversely, you may benefit from having more relationships because your logs will be shared with more people and you'll get more likes and comments.

Overall, we believe that the Calorie Camp will result in a much richer social graph for each user, and renaming the relationships from friends to followers is a part of the effort to help those graphs develop. Obviously, it comes at a cost of not being able to refer to your old true friends as friends, but I hope that's a small price to pay in return for ultimately having more people care about your progress.

Thanks Igor. That is an explanation that I can accept.

Onward.

Hello egor!

Original Post by Igor:

Original Post by cajunrider:

Count me in as one who does not like the term "Follow" at all. Are we trying to be like Twitter? It may be semantic but I do not use Twitter for the very word.

So first of all I totally agree with you that followers is less strong than friends, and I also agree that it's an unfortunate side effect of the changes that we're making.

Let me explain why we did that. Friends implies that both people have confirmed the relationship, which - as you're probably aware - is not how CC works. For new people coming to our site and having the understanding of what friends generally means on other sites, it means that they are quite hesitant initiating a friend request worrying that the other person won't recognize them and won't approve the request.

This didn't use to matter much in the past because the only relationships that were being formed were between true friends. People usually met each other on the forums and spent a lot of time talking to each other before discovering a need to friend each other. In other words, while our system was built for asymmetrical relationships, it was being used in a symmetrical way.

Having launched the Calorie Camp, we're noticing that people are starting to initiate those relationships a lot sooner, because now they get to derive value from those people's logs. So CC is turning into a site where your content may be interesting to others even if they've never talked to you. They may want to learn about what you're doing to stay healthy and how they can do the same. Conversely, you may benefit from having more relationships because your logs will be shared with more people and you'll get more likes and comments.

Overall, we believe that the Calorie Camp will result in a much richer social graph for each user, and renaming the relationships from friends to followers is a part of the effort to help those graphs develop. Obviously, it comes at a cost of not being able to refer to your old true friends as friends, but I hope that's a small price to pay in return for ultimately having more people care about your progress.

Could you have it set for different classifications?  Someone you want to follow, or let follow you, but still have friends? 

If the point is building support relationships, this sounds a lot like making friends to me.

followers: also known as creepers and stalkers. 

I have the same issue, few friends but apparently 35 people following me. I saw a post about this the other day, this woman was commenting to her daughter about her twitter feed saying she felt these people had to be real losers to be following someone as interesting as her. Maybe you just have something interesting to say so enjoy it. :)

I gave up expecting friends and buddies here, I have 1 person who still messages back and talks to me on occasion and seems to be in it for the long run but eventually they just seem to stop messaging back :(. 

*nodnodz* Igor is correct. As a member of Calorie Camp since its inception the camaraderie is fantastic. I've made new friends based on the posts we share in camp. *beckons* Toss away your inhibitions and come to the dark side.

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