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Grinding, Cracking Shoulers when Lifting


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Have searched therough the old threads, but teh answers were not quite what I was looking for. New people, so hopefully I will understand from you :)

Sorry for the lack of terminology :O

I have no problems lifting 2 no. 15lb dumb bells to staright arm above my head, and with working the bicep also... Can just do the 3 x 12 reps.

What I am confused on is when you have the weights by your sides and raise your arms outwards to a straight positing so you would look like a letter T if you will.

My shoulder really grinds and clicks. I am able to do 8 of this exercise, but every time the shoulder grinds away.

No weight, there is no problem, and I have never had a shoulder injury.

Is it something to be wary of or a case that my shoulders are not used to exercise?

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Mine do that from time to time too, but not every time I work out.  I will be curious to see if anyone has further info.  I haven't worried much about it as it has been inconsistent and does not seem to cause any pain or mobility issues.

Does hurt at all? If it does, I would say definitely stop, otherwise, well, then it becomes a  more difficult question...

Maybe try some rotator cuff exercises with bands or light weigths, to warm up before doing your raises.

I get this too! Every time I move my shoulder lifting weights it's almost like it pops, but feels really uncomfortable. The same thing happens to my ribs when I do oblique crunches. There are no long lasting side effects, its just really really unpleasant! (Never had a shoulder injury either)

Usually, I just find alternative exercises, but I really hope you find a solution! I'm glad to hear that other people have this problem too... (well, not that you have it, but that it might be a more common thing)

I have a similar problem and have been to an orthopedist about it. He sent me for an MRI and found that I have Instable Shoulder Syndrome. It is partially from overuse, partially a loose joint issue and partially an imbalance of muscles. I was sent to physical therapy 3x a week for a month. What we had found was that my traps were excessively strong and my lats were much too weak to compensate, which resulted in pulling muscles and dislocating/popping/yucky sounds being produced every time I lifted something. When I turned my arms inward at my sides, my shoulders used to pop -- it never hurt and, when I was younger, I thought it was funny that I could "play songs" with them. I still every so often have this happen, but I found that strengthening my lats really helped to "rebalance" things. My PT had me use resistance bands and a few of the weight machines that build up that area.

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Thank you all, and especially Weezer21787. I am interested to know what lats are. Will search on google on my lunch, and what the resistance bands are.... Again will have to search around...

I feel no discomfort durnig or after the exercise from the grinding, but common sense tells me that it could be an issue, so rather nip in the bud now...

Thanks all :)

Your lats are on your back and sides, basically running parallel with your triceps.. Resistance bands are just basically giant thick rubber bands that you can do various strengthening exercises with.

 

You may want to see a doctor -- I'm obviously not sure that what you have is the same as what I have, but if it indeed IS Instable Shoulder, it's not a HUGE deal

I have this, too!  Sometimes when I do lateral raises, sometimes frontal plane raises, sometimes not at all!  I have been meaning to see a doctor, but I was hoping it would disappear as my shoulders get stronger.  Maybe I'm not strengthening the right muscles!

My right shoulder cracks really bad when I do lateral raises with weights. Even with no weights, I can still feel it grinding....ick! My left hip also cracks really bad....sometimes during side lunges or some pilates-type moves. Don't know what causes it, but it's really uncomfortable!

As long as it there is no pain, I wouldn't imagine there would be any harm/injury.

However, when I started getting healthy last year my right shoulder would crackle and crunch and hurt.  I ended up going to the doctor and wound up having rotator cuff surgery.  We decided it was likely from an injury I had gotten 15 years earlier when I fell and over extended the shoulder.  I had not gone to a doctor for it then, I just remember it being sore for a looong time after the fall. For all that time, I had only had occasional problems with it being sore/achy until I started trying to lift weights. 


I had surgery for it in December and I am still recovering.  No fun.  I would suggest that if there is any pain involved def. get it checked out.  If caught early it might only require some physical therapy.  If it gets bad... well.

As long as it there is no pain, I wouldn't imagine there would be any harm/injury.

However, when I started getting healthy last year my right shoulder would crackle and crunch and hurt.  I ended up going to the doctor and wound up having rotator cuff surgery.  We decided it was likely from an injury I had gotten 15 years earlier when I fell and over extended the shoulder.  I had not gone to a doctor for it then, I just remember it being sore for a looong time after the fall. For all that time, I had only had occasional problems with it being sore/achy until I started trying to lift weights. 


I had surgery for it in December and I am still recovering.  No fun.  I would suggest that if there is any pain involved def. get it checked out.  If caught early it might only require some physical therapy.  If it gets bad... well.

Original Post by weezer21787:

I have a similar problem and have been to an orthopedist about it. He sent me for an MRI and found that I have Instable Shoulder Syndrome. It is partially from overuse, partially a loose joint issue and partially an imbalance of muscles. I was sent to physical therapy 3x a week for a month. What we had found was that my traps were excessively strong and my lats were much too weak to compensate, which resulted in pulling muscles and dislocating/popping/yucky sounds being produced every time I lifted something. When I turned my arms inward at my sides, my shoulders used to pop -- it never hurt and, when I was younger, I thought it was funny that I could "play songs" with them. I still every so often have this happen, but I found that strengthening my lats really helped to "rebalance" things. My PT had me use resistance bands and a few of the weight machines that build up that area.

I have this as well, i also went to PT for a few months. Now that i've stopped therapy, the problem has come back, so i do the exercises that trigger this popping and cracking with very light weight.

Shoulder exercises are VERY dangerous.  I tore one of my rotator cuffs when I was 19 while maxing out on benchpress.  Needless to say, I did too much weight and my shoulder couldn't support the weight my chest was pushing up so I wasn't able to lift for 3 months.  A friend of mine tore his shoulder doing military press and was out 4 months as well.

Some people have shoulders that are very succeptible to injury.  Strengthen your back and triceps to support and that should help.  If you feel ANY pain, stop, stretch, ice, and take 2 weeks off (that specific workout, don't quit working out in general).

Just be careful with those shoulders... I've found them to be second most commonly injured, first being the back/spine.

NOTE: NEVER roll your shoulder when holding weights.  You WILL damage it.  Only do Up, Down, Lateral movements... no circular motion when holding a dumbbell.

I have shoulder instability, too, and had similar sensations up until my junior year of high school which I thought were normal. ha. I played fastpitch in high school, and I was a pitcher. Everytime I went through my wind up I could feel my shoulder pop out, but I thought everyone's arm did that, until it got to the point that I couldn't lift my arm above my shoulder!

I'm no expert, but I would advise you to be very careful. I ignored the problem for a while because I was attending softball practice during basketball season (which was not allowed), and I didn't want to tell my coach. My point is, don't let it get out of hand. Listen to your body!
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Shoulder pain/injuries are probably most common when it comes to weight lifting.  I have similar problems with my left shoulder. 

What I've found that helps is warming up my shoulders before every workout, even legs.  I use Lee Haywards rotator cuff routine that works real well and only takes a few minutes.

http://www.leehayward.com/rotator_cuff.htm


I rarely experience shoulder pain anymore.

roj47, I lift 3kg-5kg dumbells to make my shoulders look bigger and when I do the T one my side muscle of the shoulder cracks and tiny hurts then I tried looking up why this is happening and I came across this and it got me thinking and so I tried to lift the weight again and it cracked after two goes then I tried it slower and it stopped cracking, maybe your lifting the weight to fast or something else I don't know or your just pushing yourself you much by not letting your body rest.

I'm not a big fan of these isolation exercises, I'd recommend dropping them. They are not really doing much of anything, except maybe causing injury.

 

I know its been a while since this question was asked, but I thought I'd share something I was told by the ortho too..I have the same issue, but in my case, its a "hooked acromion" on the left shoulder. It causes the humerus bone (upper arm) to grind against the acromion on the shoulder. its supposed to be straight and flat, but because its curved down, it grinds against the humerus.

it affects my range of motion on th eleft side a bit, and is uncomfortable when doing weights, especially the laterial fly's (T-shaped exercise, like you mentioned) ..

The only real solution to this is to do an arthroscopic surger to kind of grind it away. I decided against it for now at least..

hope that helped!

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