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I've always run low (95.6-97.1) all my life, my Dr's have never said/done anything about it. I've asked for thyroid checks, and everything came back in the clear. Although i've always suspected I've had a hypothyroid due to how easily I can gain weight (and nearly impossible to shed). My metabolism basically seems to suck, it doesent matter how i'm eating (1500 cal/day, 1800cal/day, 2500/cal day, 3500cal/day) i'm always in the low (around 2 degrees) below 98.6 temp range.

Does anyone else have this ? Any idea? I did a bit of research and found something called Wilsons Temp Syndrome, seems to be pretty spot on, and i've asked several Dr's about it, but always get looked at kinda funny like 'theres nothing wrong with you, your not running a fever so all is fine'...
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Mine is always relatively low as well, usually between 96.8 and 97.1. I've never really given it a second thought...

I run low also, usually below 97.0 unless something is wrong.

Wilson's is a bitch to detect because on the face of it everything looks normal, but your thyroid hormones are inactive; something blood tests won't normally show.

 Scott Abel wrote about all the various ways your metabolism can become odd a while back in his "Metabolic Damage" article - it's more geared towards females but I think most of the same considerations hold true for males as well; Dr. Lowery has more than once made a case for why male bodybuilders and female yo-yo dieters suffer from many of the same problems with stubborn body fat.

I'm still waiting on part two of that article from Scott but at least you can see that there's reason to think that your doctor may need a stern talking-to about checking why your body is consistently running at a temperature where several of your body's enzymatic reactions are severely slowed down.
Interesting melkor, oddly when I was losing my best now that I think about it, I was on a supplment that was designed to boost T3 production. Maybe I should go back on it and ZMA and see how that affects my results.
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Just because your dr. says your thyroid is fine, only means it falls between

a certain range. I went to a hormone dr. who specializes in women's hormones

and her testing said I needed thyroid meds. She says yes it fell in the range, but the low range and I did need it. My body temp. has been low all my life and now it is normal.  You can access her website and she give free seminars here in Calif and Oregon.  www.hormonesbyhart.com

jule_s,
I'll check the site thanks :)

I think I may get my thyroid checked myself (at a lab of course), and then take the results to my Dr, based on my findings and ask her/him if they can do something based off the results. I hate when Dr's check things, all you get back is 'normal' and they don't want to show you the numbers... Like I can't be informed enough to make decisions based off of data.

I've always wondered about that too. The other day my daytime temperature was only 96.8 degrees. I've always been that way, and I have an incredibly bad metabolism as well. Despite my mother and my grandmother and my aunt having hypothyroidism, my doctor's tests show that I'm fine. The "normal" body temp most people have is actually an average, apparently, so unless you're running below 95 degrees consistently I think it's actually medically acceptable to have a lower body temperature. Metabolically speaking, however, I think it might be a disadvantage.

I've read up on Wilsons but from every scientific article (as compared to alternative medicine article) I've read it's a made-up disease. So I don't know how much to trust with there (I am skeptical of alternative medicine diagnoses because often they take symptoms that could be anything and come up with something that you need to buy a large number of expensive herbal supplements for, without any real evidence). But whatever works for you. I'd be interested in seeing what other people have for suggestions.

Funny that you brought this up, I have always run low (temp) and I have always been a little chubby, even though I'm active and I see other people my age eat way more junk than I do Tongue out. I just checked my temp and it was 95.9. I'm always cold. My husband screams when I get in bed at night becuz my hands are soooo cold,lol. Anyway...after reading about this I'm thinking about going to the docter to check my thyroid and/or other possibilities.

Is it valid to go to my doctor and just tell them

"Hey, I check my temperature every day and it's consistantly below norm, can we run some tests?"

or is that bizzarre? Mine has always been low, and my feet/hands are always freezing (my brother attests to that fact!)

I always feel like a complainer, and doctors won't want to help me unless *they* discover all the problems.

I have the same problem. I usually run between 95 degrees and 97 degrees. My fevers are at other peole's normal temp. (98.6 and higher) if i am 99 or above i feel really sick. My boss says that this is a sign of a thyroid disease and my doctor blew it off. I am only 21 years old and I went from being 110 lbs to 150 in a year and two months. Now i keep gaining and it is impossible ot get rid of. I only eat about 1200 calories a day and i live an active lifestyle. I can only maintain. I think I need to go to someone who cares about me and not just the money. I'm sick of my doctor not caring. I think you should do the same.

I'm in the same boat as you all! 

Here's my question - maybe this is related:  What is your blood pressure usually?

I'm consistantly 100/60 and my normal temp is 97.

I thought that blood pressure might have something to do with it.

Cheryl :)

My blood pressure is usually 110-120/80, so pretty much normal.
You may want to direct your doctor's attention to this PubMed article on Wilson's and treatment - it's not exactly top of the list of thyroid conditions you can have, but if everything seems normal with the standard tests and there's clearly something wrong anyway, it's not out of the realm of the possible, apparently.

 Most of the time if there's something up with your thyroid the standard tests will detect it, and normal body temperature is a range, not a fixed point; but I'd still ask some questions if your range is consistenly low enough that your enzymatic reactions are slowed down. But meh - I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on the Internet even if I can look up PubMed data; whatever you do, don't mess about with your thyroid on your own. Bodybuilders trying to burn away bodyfat by taking thyroid hormones have given themselves hypothyroidism by shutting down the body's own production permanently. This doesn't apply to supplements designed to upregulate the body's own production and/or support thyroid function, this is straight-up injecting or taking oral thyroid hormone. Your body can handle hormone levels it produces naturally, but messing about with injectables on your own is playing Russian Roulette with your body.

  Don't mess with your endocrine system if you're not an endocrinologist - discuss with your doctor.  

I am in the low temp range to - wake up around 95.5 and by late afternoon up to about 97.4 - - 

Years ago a doctor gave me a T3/T4 supplement no longer on the market - Proloid [Armour thyroid is natural and has the same ingredients] and the weight fell off.  I lost 63lbs in about 8 months and kept it off until my doctor retired and I could not get it again as my TSH was always "normal" - The old doctor used a test called an "achillogram" to diagnose - -not used anymore -- we are talking EARLY 70s - 

 My dosage was only 0.5 grains, nowhere near enough to overwhelm the feedback mechanism.  It was great. I have tried for 30 years to find another doctor with similar mindset as I think it was also safe - based on feeback mechanism.  Basically fits right in with Wilson's syndrome.  But you know what I don't want to start mixing in this and that over the counter supplement without some level of medical supervision............thryoid in small doses is safe......

Also Joe and Terry Graden on the Peoples Pharmacy acknowledge that thyroid probles can exist and not be diagnosed. --- we are talking cheap, safe (if not overdosed) drugs -- they are willing to try all kinds of **** off label on people that has not tested but there is a real wall about thyroid supplementation.

Well, I am really trying to loose weight again as I have packed on a lot of weight in 30 year and am going to give a documented effort to boose my metabolish through excercise and eat very appropriately........ I doubt you will  find a standard doctor open to this.  They just won't consider it.

Original Post by melkor:

Bodybuilders trying to burn away bodyfat by taking thyroid hormones have given themselves hypothyroidism by shutting down the body's own production permanently. This doesn't apply to supplements designed to upregulate the body's own production and/or support thyroid function, this is straight-up injecting or taking oral thyroid hormone. Your body can handle hormone levels it produces naturally, but messing about with injectables on your own is playing Russian Roulette with your body.

Gotta love a good T3. Most of the guys I trained with, preferred Cytomel.  Risky stuff, but way safer than DNP.

I think doctors are doing more harm than good by not considering that people may take things into their own hands.

LOW dose is farily safe as the feed back in the pituitary will adjust the levels but if you take it over the normal level a normal thryoid would produce you can cause major health damage!

Agree, you need monitoring, which is why I have not taken things into my own hand.

I'm not sure about the lower body temperature as a whole, but I do know it's normal for a person's body temperature to be a bit lower in the morning than at night.  While you sleep your body temperature drops.  I've noticed if I fall asleep for a short amount of time and then wake up I'll be all sweaty from my temperature dropping. 
Original Post by longwaytogo:

I think doctors are doing more harm than good by not considering that people may take things into their own hands.

 

 Well said.  Same can be said for most forms of performance enhancement.

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If you have low temp.Have you looked to see if you have a low pulse rate too.Average is 76 bpm

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