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Giving up Bad Sugar for good


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I am a sugar addict and sugar makes me feel awful.

What do you do to get sugar out of your system for good? Do I need to cut out ALL sugars to wean myself off?

It is the refined sugar - chocolate/cakes etc - which make me feel tired/sick etc. But fruit keeps my sweet tooth alive and kicking...

I already have daily:

1 small kiwi - 1 handful blueberries - 2 small clementines - 1 small glass pomegranate juice - 1 organic pink lady apple

Also starch wise:

1 bowl porridge (the blueberries go into this) - 1 medium sweet potato

I am a dessert person so have a piece of fruit after each meal to satisfy. Should I stop this? Will only cold turkey work??

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How many people who smoke/do drugs/ drink alcohol/have any other addiction do you think successfully quit by going cold turkey?

 

It doesn't work. Do it gradually. Keep eating fruits, they are good for you.

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If you want support for going cold turkey ck out an overeaters anonymous meeting locally.  I am struggling with the whole sugar thing myself and oa is great support.. I however haven't done so hot as I'm super picky with veggies and just can't seem to get the large amounts down for lunch and dinner... but def. ck out a meeting... it's wonderful to hear others who understand where we are coming from without judgment... :)

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Cold turkey is the only way I quit alcohol 12 years ago.  Weaning DID NOT work. 

I guess the right way you do it is different for everyone.

Would you cut out all sugary starches and most fruit?

ie just have 1 portion of fruit a day and the rest veg and protein?

Also I am not cutting out sugar to lose weight - I am a healthy weight I am just so sick of sugar cravings and binges ruling me.

Also I catch a cold every time I start having a few sweets because the sugar breaks down my immune system and stops my body absorbing nutrients. 

 

Original Post by pibblety:

Also I catch a cold every time I start having a few sweets because the sugar breaks down my immune system and stops my body absorbing nutrients. 

 

That's as unscientific a claim as you can make. Please show me research that shows sugar consumption causing sickness and impairment of the immune system.

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Yes, everyone is different and I can only speak from my experience.  Good luck.

Original Post by armandounc:

Original Post by pibblety:

Also I catch a cold every time I start having a few sweets because the sugar breaks down my immune system and stops my body absorbing nutrients. 

 

That's as unscientific a claim as you can make. Please show me research that shows sugar consumption causing sickness and impairment of the immune system.

armandounc you are an extremely aggressive, angry person - please stop replying to this thread. 

These forums are about helping eachother and not about attacking others and trying to make yourself feel great about yourself. Please hold back on the testosterone injections.

Anyone else have any tips on how to cut out suger in order to get it out of your system?

Hmmm. I'm asking you to show me research that backs your claim. What about that is aggressive/angry/testosterone-laden??

Is that what you thought when your math teacher asked you to show your work in an exam in school? Or when you had to provide sources for a paper in college?

I'm trying to help you understand that the correlation you made doesn't exist that I am aware. If you can show me research that says otherwise then I will stand corrected.

Don't be so sensitive!

http://www.livestrong.com/article/105285-dang ers-sugars/

I agree that I remembered/worded it wrong - but it is on several sites so appears to be common knowledge.

The fact is that when I start eating sugary foods (on TOP of the nighly nutritious foods I normally eat daily) I catch a cold - without fail.

I am trying to keep this thread about HOW to cut sugar from your life. This is NOT a discussion about WHY sugar is bad for you. We all know it is - end of story.

Those are not reliable sources. Mercola? It's a website that tries to sell you products. Livestrong doesn't do any research they just feed you cherry-picked information.

 

Too much sugar is bad. Added sugars are bad. Natural sugar is not a problem.

But hey as I say in other threads - I have 0 health problems and am in tip-top shape. I consume as much sugar as I feel like consuming.

 

I'll leave your thread now.

Maybe you just catch a lot of colds.

I don't think you need to worry about fruits, and your starches sound low.  According to my med-school friends, fruits come with a ton of fiber to allow those sugars to be released slowly, negating the damage sugars do.  I would focus mainly on cutting out the refined sugars. 

I found that for myself, moderation is the key.  At the start of the work week I bought myself one high quality, expensive chocolate bar.  I allowed myself two squares a day, but only if I really, really craved it.  It was enough to stem the craving without gorging myself.  And the fact that it was really nice chocolate made me want to stretch it out.  I would think "if I eat this all right now, then there won't be anything for after that meeting on thursday!" 

I still get cravings sometimes when I am really stressed out.  Depending on how bad it is (ie, how whiny I am being compared to how bad the situation actually is!) I may allow myself a treat.  Same thing though, I go buy four pieces of my favourite chocolate from a local candy store, and once it's gone...it's gone!

Buying small amounts of quality goods controls my portions far better than buying bags and bags of cheap bulk candy!

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I just changed my family's diet to a clean eating mostly vegetarian one.  I did it cold turkey.  You have to with sugar.  You cannot wean off of sugar!  It is a very addictive substance.  I do use unrefined sugars (dates, turbinado, stevia, agave, honey, etc.).  It took about a week for my kids to quit craving the crappy junk.  It took me about the same, and hubby a little longer.  EVERY time any is snuck back in we have to start over on the detox. 

The awesome part- TONS of good things have happened.  My son's asthma is gone.  He went from almost needing to be in the hospital when we started to it is now GONE!  That was totally unexpected.  I no longer break out.  I also sweat like 20% of what I did on sugar.  Clearly my body tried to get the sugar out through my skin, and my son's lungs were his body's way of trying to get it out.  My teen daughter breaks out every time she sneaks sugar in, too.  It's funny, I see it and I totally know she cheated.  She doesn't get the connection. :) 

 

My point is, read about sugar.  It is one of the most addictive substances on the planet.  And they keep putting it in our foods more and more.  We no longer eat processed anything, and I won't buy anything that has sugar in the ingredients.  That eliminates like 90% of the grocery store.  Did you know that snickers used to have 25% of the sugar they do now?  It's because we are so addicted, and for us to get that "sugar rush" they have to keep upping the quantity.  It is crazy!

Keep at it, it really is only hard for the first few days, and then the cravings start to go away.  Once they are gone, you will literally feel sick if you eat it again.  And then you don't want it after that experience.

 

What an amazing success story lucky_sun thank you for posting!

And it must be so so hard getting children off sugar...!

Yes as a society we need to learn to control our sugar intake. 

Do you ever go out to restaurants? I guess they fill their food with sugar too even if you pass on desserts there is the sauces/marinades etc...

Great advice guys thanks - will try each approach to see what works for me

 

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Restaurants are sooo hard!  We changed our diet Jan. 20th.  We have had a few meals out, because we told the kids we would allow one "cheat" meal a week.  We haven't actually had that many.  Restaurant food in general makes us all sick to our stomachs now.  It is really weird!  We have to be really choosy.  Salads are generally okay.  Beef makes me so nauseous now I won't even attempt it (but bison has been fine and I can eat seafood).  So buffets work if the kids can keep in control, it's hard, but they get sick, too so they tend to be more careful.  There are also a handful of places around us that make their meals from scratch with healthy ingredients.  Subway has been okay, too, you just have to be careful.

 

It has been great in a lot of ways, but our oldest (16) still gripes and sneaks to the store for her sugar.  So, she has not gotten past the sugar cravings, which is why I say cold turkey is the only way to go.

But, REFINED sugar is the problem!  Unrefined sugar doesn't have the same addictive properties.  So get some agave or honey, and if you can get turbinado use that.  Stevia and turbinado can be used anywhere sugar is called for in the same ratio.  I don't like the taste of stevia, but it is calorie free.  Turbinado is unrefined cane sugar, so it still has a lot of calories/carbs.  Sucanat is another alternative, it is evaproated cane juice, unrefined, still sweet, but it has the molasses in it still, so it has a nice rich flavor and you use less.  It can also be swapped out for sugar in recipes.

My kids made the transition okay, but I had to make them "treats" to mentally satisfy the sweet tooth.  So I used the "Eat Clean" diet books to get some good recipes and none of them use refined sugar.  And the kids loved everything I made.  (It helped me, too, but I still ate way too much of the sweets!)

I like the quote "what you eat is what you crave". 

Stop and think about it for a moment. It's true isn't it? I'm sure some type of (x) food that they serve in another country is super delicious-- but I wouldn't know now, would I? because I've never had it. You can't crave something that you don't eat. 

The more you eat junk, the more you are going to crave junk. 

The more healthy food you eat, the more you are going to crave healthy food. 

The less sugar you eat... you see where I'm going?

You don't have to cut out sugar all at once, but getting rid of the "junkiest" sugars and processed carb sources is a good place to start (you know the ones I'm taking about right? cakes, cookies, soda, pastry, chocolate, white flour, white rice..etc.) Even children know that these are not healthy foods. 

Read labels, if sugar is on the list-- in any form, drop it like it's hot. You don't need it. 

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Here's an interesting blog I found of a high fruit vegan dieter who gives paleo a try for 30 days and documents her experience eating drastically less sugar than she used to, even though she was eating "healthy" foods before.

 http://www.my-healthy-eating-secrets.com/pale o-diet.html

It's quite interesting how her sugar cravings (even for fruit) begin to subside the more protein and fats that she eats and how her health improves. (and yes she loses weight too)

You don't have to read the whole thing (it's pretty long) but try reading a few days throughout the month. 

 

 

 


Original Post by pibblety:

Also I catch a cold every time I start having a few sweets because the sugar breaks down my immune system and stops my body absorbing nutrients. 

 

This sort of happens to me...it isn't a cold. I call it food/sugar hangover. When I've eaten way too much sugar or too much of anything, I get cold/flu like symptoms. I'm feverish, exhausted, and nauseous. Feels just like a hangover from drinking alcohol. 

I've tried the fruit thing to help my sugar cravings...but sometimes it doesn't work. So every now and then I give into the craving. But not completely. Sometimes I'll treat myself to sugary cereal or to a chocolate hazelnut butter. Yea, sugar lacks nutrition, but sometimes you have to give yourself what you want. Just don't go overboard.

So helpful guys, thanks for posting!

Also the sugar cravings hit hardest that time of the month... may be good idea to go paleo style for these times.

totally agree with the sugar hangovers! Just like alcohol hangovers - you say to yourself NEVER again and the next weekend it's the same story...

Original Post by pibblety:

So helpful guys, thanks for posting!

Also the sugar cravings hit hardest that time of the month... may be good idea to go paleo style for these times.

totally agree with the sugar hangovers! Just like alcohol hangovers - you say to yourself NEVER again and the next weekend it's the same story...

I have problems with sugar:  Once I start I cannot stop.  Back in the day when I was menstruating I also craved it at TOM.  It makes me feel bad.  Perhaps it is noteworthy that I am also a recovered (yes, recovered) alcoholic, sober for >23 years.  Prior to getting sober I had sugar cravings on at TOM.  Once I quit drinking it became a new problem for me.  Even if I'm feeling sick or stuffed, I could continue to eat sweets.  Since adopting a more healthy diet/lifestyle I have been able to have occasional desserts/sweets....but I try to do it mindfully.  If I over-indulge I need to flush my system with lots of water and high fiber veges.

There is evidence of a correlation between sugar and alcohol consumption, and in fact the molecular structure of the two is quite similar.  Some even believe that alcoholism is due to hypoglycemia.  I have been diagnosed with "reactive
hypoglycemia," which means that I have a blood sugar crash following too much glucose.  Many people will dispute the notion of a food or sugar addiction.  I don't need to put a name on it so much as I have needed to know how to deal with it.  I just know that I have problems with both.

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