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no grains, no meat, no dairy, no soy - am i restricting too much?


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i've suffered from various digestive ailments over the years and slowly eliminated certain foods. first it was meat. then grains & soy. dairy.

my digestion has improved dramatically and i am so grateful for finding a diet that is working for me. sometimes i worry about not including certain foods that may have NO replacement, nutrient-wise.

my diet consists of fruits, vegetables, healthy plant fat from nuts & seeds & avocadoes, algae, and the occasional protein powder (soy free, whey free, etc.) i take vitamins and probiotics.

i am getting 2000+ calories a day. "restricting" here means food choices, not calories. please understand this before you comment :)

what do you think? i know how corrupt the food industry is - and even the government food programme. myPyramid is probably not the ideal diet for everyone - if anyone!! but at the same time, it seems so much safer. i don't know...any comments and perspectives appreciated!

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Do you take a multivitamin or any other vitamin supplements?

Original Post by cellophane_star:

Do you take a multivitamin or any other vitamin supplements?

yes. multivitamin.

"sometimes i worry about not including certain foods that may have NO replacement, nutrient-wise."

Anything specific that you are worried about?

Your third paragraph list looks great to me. You might be able to come up with enough plant sources of protein that you wouldn't need the protein powder, but I'd keep track of protein consumption since it is a bit trickier without including meat.

I haven't gone through the new food pyramid info, because the USDA has such a terrible record that I wouldn't trust any information from them.

To ease your worries, read a nutrition book and consider "am I getting enough of that?" regularly. I started out using supplements "just in case," but I eliminated them one by one over a couple of years, as I made sure that I was getting good nutrition by food alone. On audio CD, I recommend "Nutrition Made Clear," put out by the by the Teaching Company. It is at least 12 hours of great information.

The "grain" category seems pretty big. There are a lot of good grains out there to experiment with.

You may find that, now that your digestion is healthy, it is much less temperamental than it used to be. Thus you could experiment with adding a few things back in, in limited quantities.

Original Post by oldguysrule:

"sometimes i worry about not including certain foods that may have NO replacement, nutrient-wise."

Anything specific that you are worried about?

Your third paragraph list looks great to me. You might be able to come up with enough plant sources of protein that you wouldn't need the protein powder, but I'd keep track of protein consumption since it is a bit trickier without including meat.

I haven't gone through the new food pyramid info, because the USDA has such a terrible record that I wouldn't trust any information from them.

To ease your worries, read a nutrition book and consider "am I getting enough of that?" regularly. I started out using supplements "just in case," but I eliminated them one by one over a couple of years, as I made sure that I was getting good nutrition by food alone. On audio CD, I recommend "Nutrition Made Clear," put out by the by the Teaching Company. It is at least 12 hours of great information.

The "grain" category seems pretty big. There are a lot of good grains out there to experiment with.

You may find that, now that your digestion is healthy, it is much less temperamental than it used to be. Thus you could experiment with adding a few things back in, in limited quantities.

thank you! <3

maybe i should experiment with sprouted grains. they seem a bit easier to digest (since the concentrated starch --> sugars).

indeed the nutrients i'm worried about are mostly contained in grains - things like folate and niacin?

*second* the reintroduction idea.

You body could have been over reacting to everything if you have multiple allergies or intolerances.

Since you feel you might be lacking in one area of your diet, I would attempt to reintroduce some whole grains, now that your digestion is more stable.

Do it really gradually,  no more than one new thing per month so that you can properly gauge your body's reaction. Diary your experiments so you can see when and what might be affecting you.

Good luck!

Original Post by foxriver:

*second* the reintroduction idea.

You body could have been over reacting to everything if you have multiple allergies or intolerances.

Since you feel you might be lacking in one area of your diet, I would attempt to reintroduce some whole grains, now that your digestion is more stable.

Do it really gradually,  no more than one new thing per month so that you can properly gauge your body's reaction. Diary your experiments so you can see when and what might be affecting you.

Good luck!

 Just to add to this, I'd also recommend starting with gluten free whole grains only (ie: rice, millet, buckwheat, etc), just in case your digestion issues were related to a gluten intolerance/allergy.

You could also download CRONOmeter for free.  It is like caloriecount time 100 with not only calories, but the vitamin, mineral, protein *and TYPE of it*, fat types... just everything about any "generic" and many non-generic foods.  If you logged on that program for a week or so you could see what you needed.

Original Post by annietheking:

indeed the nutrients i'm worried about are mostly contained in grains - things like folate and niacin?
Actually these vitamins are extremely high in green leafy veggies, but if you aren't getting enough you can add Nutrional Yeast to your meals.

 **I would be more concerned with lacking B12 since you don't eat meat.

Original Post by dkiesser:

Original Post by annietheking:

indeed the nutrients i'm worried about are mostly contained in grains - things like folate and niacin?
Actually these vitamins are extremely high in green leafy veggies, but if you aren't getting enough you can add Nutrional Yeast to your meals.

 **I would be more concerned with lacking B12 since you don't eat meat.

i take a supplement. sometimes i eat nutritional yeast too

I have similar habits because I also have digestive ailments and have found the same to be true! I do eat fish and soy. As long as you are getting enough nutrients, protein and feel good, do what is best for you!! I dont do grains/ gluten, meat or dairy and feel much better- I dont eat nuts really except Almond milk.

Have you tried hemp or pea protein? Vega is wonderful- the vanilla sport is the best tasting. I also use spirulina

Original Post by floridapauline:

I have similar habits because I also have digestive ailments and have found the same to be true! I do eat fish and soy. As long as you are getting enough nutrients, protein and feel good, do what is best for you!! I dont do grains/ gluten, meat or dairy and feel much better- I dont eat nuts really except Almond milk.

Have you tried hemp or pea protein? Vega is wonderful- the vanilla sport is the best tasting. I also use spirulina

the protein powder i eat now is a mixture of pea/hemp/non-soy or whey. i think it's rather disgusting but i have trouble getting enough protein otherwise sometimes. i mean people say nuts are good source of protein but if you're going to get a day's worth of protein from any nut you'll get like 5x the amount of fat you're supposed to be having in a day! (so i totally don't get the "nuts are a wonderful source of protein" thing lol)

can you get the Vega powder from grocery stores or is it only online? does it have soy?

ooh and i forgot to mention i have a bit of spriulina/chlorella to feel extra $#%#^%# amazing lol  but even though they have a lot of protein for the amount of calories (spirulina more than BEEF!!), i can't eat like 500 tablets of spirulina...

I get Vega from a healthfood store near me and no it doesnt have soy! I have a suggestion that is actually pretty amazing from my experience. Amino Acid supplements- my favorite is Met-RX Amino's- provide emmediate protein and when taken on an empty stomach are absorbed fast. Sometimes when I am training real hard I feel depleated and take them in increments for a few days. I see and feel results like crazy!! I order them on line from DPS Nutrition, there about 8.99 a bottle. If you exercise these are spectacular for muscle preservation, and if you research about amino acid benefits you can read how they work!!

Do different meats bother you differently? Or did you just want to go vegetarian for other reasons? Since you problems have mellowed out, have you tried tuna or salmon? A year after I stopped eating beef, I couldn't stand the smell of a burger and I know beef would bug my colon, but I am OK with lean chicken breast and fish.

You are right about the nuts and the fat. Luckily, I have a high enough calorie intake that I can eat lots of nuts for part of my protein.

How are you with eggs?

OGR

Original Post by oldguysrule:

Do different meats bother you differently? Or did you just want to go vegetarian for other reasons? Since you problems have mellowed out, have you tried tuna or salmon? A year after I stopped eating beef, I couldn't stand the smell of a burger and I know beef would bug my colon, but I am OK with lean chicken breast and fish.

You are right about the nuts and the fat. Luckily, I have a high enough calorie intake that I can eat lots of nuts for part of my protein.

How are you with eggs?

OGR

i don't like the taste of meat, eggs, or seafood. i'm the same way - used to eat it, stopped for dietary reasons, and now when i see/smell it's gross. i'm also a bit of an ethical eater but the main reason these days is actually for health. i believe plant protein is superior - easier to absorb and comes with phytonutrients and antioxidants, and higher nutrient density too.

i don't do heavy exercise, so maybe i don't need any more than 45g/day? I'm 17.

In that smoothie that you describe in your bio, is that ten cups of raw spinach? If it is, you don't have to worry about folate. 110 gms of spinach (23 calories worth) has 50% of the recommended amount.

I am not vegetarian, but I can't enjoy more than a 100 gram piece of chicken, which contains 25 grams of protein. I like eggs and get 21 grams if I eat three. I eat piles of broccoli (at least a head a day) and I just introduced sprouted lentils and love them. I am trying to up my intake of beans. I weight 183 lbs, work hard and exercise a lot and want to get 80 grams a day. That would be about 1.0 gram of protein per kg of body weight. The usual suggested range is 0.8 to 1.4 (proffesional athlete).

Original Post by annietheking:

can you get the Vega powder from grocery stores or is it only online? does it have soy?

All Vega products are vegan and soy free. Vega is available in most natural food stores. I'm enjoying their new Shake and Go smoothie line. It comes in 4 flavours but I've only tried chocolate. 2 tbsp of powder has 11 g protein + a serving of greens. Bonus: you can mix it in with just water and it DOESN'T taste too bad!

http://myvega.com/products/vega-shake-and-go/ features-benefits

 

You should eat grains, wholesome, organic, non GMO grains like Millet, Quinoa, Brown Rice, Basmati rice, and others are very very good for you!

 

I cut out dairy and eggs, and though I barely ate those before I went vegan, I fel like Im restricting too much, but I think thats just cuz my mom always tells me that, because now I'm eating a wider variety then ever :\

I just feel weird about this because I never eat with the fmily anymore- but same with my siblings and parents, we just havent had a sit down together meal since our vacation (about a week ago)

 

 

And here's some tips for digestion:

Don't drink water within 30 mins before and after you eat, it inhibits digestion,

Eat fruit alone or with other fruit unless cooked. Melon should be with other melon, except for watermelon which should be eaten alone.

Vegetables and grains go together well, protein with either or both of the two also helps

 

Wheatgrass is good for youdigestion, but it is expensive,

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