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Are the Nutrition Facts on meat packages for raw or cooked?


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I have been assuming that the package gives the information for raw meat. I was just about to log some ground chicken and realized I could have been doing it wrong this whole time so I thought I'd better check.

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Why does it matter? Cooking it doesn't change the calories... it's what you add to it that does. 

Because meat gets lighter when you cook it since some of the water evaporates. If I weigh out 100 grams of raw chicken, cook it, and weigh it again, it will weigh less. So I need to know whether there are 160 calories in 100 grams of raw chicken or cooked chicken.

Usually it is "as sold" unless specified otherwise. So it will be for raw, or plus whatever marinade they have it in.

UD

Good, that means I have been doing it right. Thanks!

Sometimes I'm just astonished by the questions here. Umneydurak and I gave you the exact same answer, coralbell. 

Original Post by alibsam:

Sometimes I'm just astonished by the questions here. Umneydurak and I gave you the exact same answer, coralbell. 

Huh?  No you didnt.

I said cooking doesn't change the calories, it's what you add to the meat that changes the cals. Umney said adding marinades is what changes the cals not the cooking. Sounds the same to me. 

I agree with umneydurak.  The calories are for "as sold."  And, as you said, the weight for meat, poultry, fish, etc., DOES decrease through loss of moisture when it's cooked.  Good points.

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Original Post by alibsam:

I said cooking doesn't change the calories, it's what you add to the meat that changes the cals. Umney said adding marinades is what changes the cals not the cooking. Sounds the same to me. 

 i think umney meant the weight was for 100g 'as sold' so raw meat (or whatever was included with the raw meat) as opposed to 100g of that same meat once it is cooked (cooked meat will weigh less so 100g raw will be less caloric that 100g once meat is cooked).

What I meant was sometimes the pre-packaged meats are already sold in marinade of some kind. I saw some sold in Trader Joes. Then calories listed will be for raw meat inside plus the marinade. If it is just a raw slab of meat then calories will be just for meat. Undecided

UD

Alibsam- I realize that cooking does not actually change the food. It's that water evaporates from the food, which concentrates the same amount of calories into less weight. So to use my chicken as an example again, if I cooked 100 grams of raw chicken (which has 160 cals) it might only end up weighing 80 grams. Which means the same 160 cals would be concentrated down into 80 grams of meat instead of 100. So if I thought the package meant cooked chicken and weighed myself 100 grams of cooked chicken and thought it had 160 calories I would be wrong. It would actually have 200 calories. Hopefully that makes sense to you, I don't know how else to explain it.

I honestly believe it's for cooked meat. No one eats raw meat (at least most people don't)

Original Post by coralbell:

Alibsam- I realize that cooking does not actually change the food. It's that water evaporates from the food, which concentrates the same amount of calories into less weight. So to use my chicken as an example again, if I cooked 100 grams of raw chicken (which has 160 cals) it might only end up weighing 80 grams. Which means the same 160 cals would be concentrated down into 80 grams of meat instead of 100. So if I thought the package meant cooked chicken and weighed myself 100 grams of cooked chicken and thought it had 160 calories I would be wrong. It would actually have 200 calories. Hopefully that makes sense to you, I don't know how else to explain it.

 You explained it well, and I have to admit I never thought of this. I imagine the calorie content would also be affected by HOW it's cooked - i.e. whether or not you cook the fat off of it, or leave it swimming in grease? Isn't that the premise of a George Foreman grill, or is that pure bunk?

Anyhow, I read somewhere that a 4 oz burger cooks down to 3 ounces, so that's what I input into the food diary (3 ounces).

Very true, fit4_life.  However, meat, fish, poultry, etc., can be prepared many different ways, with many different marinades, sauces, etc., so I believe the calories on a ground beef package, for example, are "as sold."  What are your thoughts? 

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