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???---**how many packets of splenda/sweet and low/ equal do you use?? Too much?


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I was wondering how many packets of artificial sweeteners other people use and whether or not one type is better than the others. I typically use anywhere from 15-20 packets per day and sometimes I feel like it gives me a headache but it could be other stuff as well. I also use splenda for certain things, sweet n low for others, and equal for other things even still. Anyone else do this? how many packets is average on a given day?

Edited Feb 17 2009 16:38 by nycgirl
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15-20 packets a day is a LOT. I barely use any, and if I do it's like half a packet.

The exception is with baking though. I'll use splenda instead of sugar to save on calories.

The FDA gets more complaints nationwide about artificial sweeteners and their side effects than all other foods combined.  If you are eating 15-20 packets a day and feeling sick, you should stop taking them.  Try stevia. It's an all natural, no calorie sweetener, derived from a plant and you use about the same amount of the artificial sweeteners and it's probably cheaper too. It's used in many parts of the world, and in some countries even to sweeten Diet Coke.

Have you tried going without them completely?  When I was a teenager, I used to regularly drink tea with one spoonful of sugar and coffee with two.  I tried swapping the sugar for sweeteners but didn't like the taste so instead went 'cold turkey' and simply started drinking tea and coffee unsweetened.   I'll be honest, they tasted absolutely dreadful for several days but I soon got used to it.  I've since stopped using sugar on cereals and other foods and it's amazing how quickly they start to taste normal.   Maybe you could lose the headaches if you did the same?

Good luck

A co worker of mine uses that many packets of splenda in her 1 large icetea to sweeten it. It is soo disgusting. 1 tbsp of sugar would do much better that 15-20 of the chemical sweeteners. Cant do the coffee w. no sugar tried it and its just not the same it needs at least 1-2 sugars and 1-2 creamers or milk. But tea I can do with out sugar. I just add some lemon juice and its great. Your headaches can really be from too much of the sweeteners. Deff cut back.

1.5 packets of splenda in a thermos of coffee, and a splash of skim milk.

I used to use real sugar, but I had to use a lot more of it to get the sweetness, so I switched.

I drink mint tea, and don't need any sweetener for that.

I'm not at all anti-sweetener, but 15-20 packets does sound like a lot, esp if you are also having diet sodas or other things that have artificial sweeteners.

Wow, this has been on here for 9 hours and only has three replies?  Two years ago you would have been eaten alive for posting this. 

Most people on this site will tell you not to use artificial sweeteners at all.  There's a whole bunch of people who subscribe to the idea that all of the artificial sweeteners are going to kill you.  That's certainly not true, although plenty of web sites from 1997 will tell you differently.  I have done a lot of research on the topic because I wondered about the legitimacy of those statements, and according to all scientific journals, they're all bunk.  All.  Bunk.

As for me, I use whatever comes my way.  They all taste the same in coffee, right?  I drink a cup of coffee with one in it probably four times a day, plus I drink a couple cans of diet coke a day  - at 130mg a pop, that's 390mg a day plus possibly 4 equal packets, 1g a piece but under 50% aspartame because it's the second ingredient... so that's 2g a day plus my 390mg...  I'm fine.

And you, 15-20 packets a day is, by those same calculations, 7.5-10g of aspartame a day.  According to most studies I have read, as long as you keep it under approximately 40g, you'll be okay.  This does not mean YOU'RE okay with it though - if your body doesn't like something, you probably should avoid it the same way I avoid getting stung by bees.

Regardless, I would wonder why you need 15-20 packets a day.  If they're going into tea and coffee, your problem is more likely caffeine-related.  I don't know what else people put these things into...

and by the time i posted it, there were 5.  Still good.

Re: gem86 -

Aspartame is supposed to be 200x as sweet as sugar by volume.  Therefore:

15 to 20 sweetners @ 500mg/pop = 7.5 to 10g. 

To get sugar volume, 7.5 to 10 x 200 =  1500 to 2000g sugar

1500 to 2000g = 0.5 to1lb of sugar's worth of sweetner (Note: not a tbsp) 

Now imagine your coworker putting a pound of sweetner into her large iced tea.  Impossible to do, but apparently that's how sweet she likes it.  Also, sugar = 4cals/gram, so that would be 6000-8000 calories of sugar.  I think the best thing for her to do is continue to use the fake stuff.

I use one splenda for my coffee - I usually have 2 or 3 a day. Then, if I am eating oatmeal in the mornings I will put 2 packets in that...I guess overall I use anywhere from 2-5 a day. I've heard that splenda is the best option for taste and health, but I haven't done any research. I don't like the taste of sweet and low...but equal and splenda taste just fine to me....

A friend of mine read "skinny bitch" and there they tell you that you will die from using artificial sweeteners - the say it is rat poison I think - which I think is BS...but again, I haven't done any research.

Original Post by kunfushuss:

Re: gem86 -

  I think the best thing for her to do is continue to use the fake stuff.

 I think the best thing for her to do is to find a new beverage.

15-20 packets seems like a lot to me...I don't consume anything in that high a quantity (relative quantity, I mean).  I have 1 packet if I drink coffee to make it more palatable.  For me, it's a trade off - I could use plain raw sugar, but that means I must have less of something I like even better (like fruit, or nuts) in order to meet my calorie goals.  I know my tastes have adjusted to less sugar and salt over time...yours probably would too.  If you could begin to cut back on the sweet flavors in your diet, you might even like the taste of the plain foods better...just an idea...

I never use it in the envelope form, but I do drink diet sodas.  It's just too disgusting to me to think of adding it from a packet.

Original Post by hayleymajayley:

Original Post by kunfushuss:

Re: gem86 -

  I think the best thing for her to do is continue to use the fake stuff.

 I think the best thing for her to do is to find a new beverage.

good call!  I bet there's something out there worth drinking that doesn't require a pound of sugar to make it drinkable.

 

And for Ameliaco - I don't doubt "skinny bitch" said that.  However, consider that the two women who write the aforementioned blog/book are models... according to an interview with dietdetective.com, neither has ever been overweight.  Also, neither hold a scientific degree (or for that matter, a degree of any sort) and they are both self-proclaimed animal lovers that are vegans because they love animals, not because of health concerns.  They honestly have no idea what they're talking about, they're just a couple of nuts that can get funding to write a book so people don't eat their beloved cows.  Feel free to trust them, but someday I vow to write a book with just a bunch of incorrect "facts" to prove that I can do it too.

I don't drink diet sodas and maybe my estimate was a bit high...in the morning i have 2 bowls of oatmeal with 2 packets in each, 1 cup of tea with 1 packet, and throughout the day I might drink 5-7 cups of tea with one packet in each...so a total of 10-15 packets is probably more accurate. I've looked on websites for acceptable intake and here are the results:

Artificial sweetenerADI*Estimated ADI equivalent**OK for cooking? Aspartame (NutraSweet, Equal) 50 milligrams (mg) per kilogram (kg) 18 to 19 cans of diet cola No Saccharin (Sweet'N Low, SugarTwin) 5 mg per kg 9 to 12 packets of sweetener Yes Acesulfame K (Sunett, Sweet One) 15 mg per kg 30 to 32 cans of diet lemon-lime soda*** Yes Sucralose (Splenda) 5 mg per kg 6 cans of diet cola***

Yes

So I guess technically I am okay. But I was just wanting to see if others also consume quite a bit. I'm afraid I'm going to give myself cancer or something. I know I'm probably being paranoid but I can't help it.

None. I used to be an equal girl and than I did a little research trying to decide if I should switch to Splenda or not. Take 20 minutes and read about equal, aspartame, splenda etc on Wikipedia and see how you feel.

When I changed my eating habits, started going to the gym and working on seriously dropping wieght it seemed to completely contradict all of my efforts to put such CHEMICALS into my body.

"The duo were trying to develop new insecticides.[citation needed] On a late-summer day, Phadnis was told to test the powder. Phadnis thought that Hough asked him to taste it, so he did"

Are you KIDDING me?

On an off day, zero. On a work day, 1-2 packets of Splenda. I try to limit intake, but I don't think that little bit is going to do any harm; I used to consume a lot more and had no bad effects that I noticed, so an average of one packet a day is probably fine.

Hmm, well I am like you in that I probably throughout the use a lot of sweeteners (not sure if its 15-20 packets) I'll have to do a count tomorrow.

But dont have any headaches from them, I would say that if your having headaches it may be related, since that is a higher amount.

Maybe its just one particular sweetener, I do best with Equal maybe do an experiement and try using just 1 brand or try Truvia (Stevia) instead since they are natural and readily available in markets now.

hmm I dont know, I think there may be a headache connection

I can vouch for the headache connection.

I think I'm probably more or less repeating what a few other people have said, LOL, but it really depends on your own body chemistry.

I generally use 1 packet of Sweet 'n' Low, Splenda, or stevia-based sweetener to 32 ounces of iced tea.  Other than that, I don't really use it -- but I can go through 3 or 4 32 oz iced teas per day at work, when I don't feel like just drinking water (ours tastes weird about half the time, so I make tea).

I have problems with aspartame (brand name: Nutrasweet), which is in almost every diet soda around (strangely enough, Walgreen's uses Splenda in their diet cola, which is both ridiculously cheap and quite good, though I very rarely drink cola).  Just a little, and I'm fine, unless I have just a little for several days in a row; too much, and I get headaches and muscle aches accompanied by generalized crabbiness and short temper.

A friend of mine from work who was a chemist involved in the development of aspartame (he's retired from chemistry and is now a rock bassist/freelance software guy, LOL!) mentioned that it releases formaldehyde as a byproduct of its chemical breakdown when metabolised.

While there are other things that we eat and breathe that produce formaldehyde as a by-product of metabolism, I think aspartame produces a higher concentration, or something.  It's worth noting that I also respond badly to formaldehyde in its pure form -- on the first day of our dissection lab in Anatomy and Physiology, I learned that unless I wore goggles, gloves, and a filtering mask when exposed to formaldehyde, my eyes would tear up and swell shut, my nose would run like crazy, and I would break out in hives, LOL.  It also gave me headaches.  I'm inclined to think there's a connection there.

I'm also going to agree with the folks who recommend trying stevia.  They've been using it in Europe forever, and it doesn't seem to have any major ill effects (unless, arguably, you somehow manage to take in pounds of it daily -- but even lettuce can produce adverse effects if you eat elephant-sized portions of it).  Sobe's LifeWater line even offers several stevia-sweetened flavors that you can pick up at some convenience stores, if you want to give it a try.

As for the whole idea of not putting chemicals in your body -- it's worth remembering that everything on earth is made of chemicals.  If you ever want to stop eating forever, take a biochem class and study the way different substances break down, LOL!  People often argue that synthetic chemicals should be avoided because they're not natural, but the same could be said for almost every non-antibiotic medication on the market, sunscreen, bug spray, shampoo...  I would definitely be wary of those synthetic sweeteners and so forth that haven't been rigorously tested, but in truth, you can't avoid chemicals, and a little artificial sweetener is significantly better for you than Type-II Diabetes.

Original Post by chrissy1988:

I was wondering how many packets of artificial sweeteners other people use and whether or not one type is better than the others. I typically use anywhere from 15-20 packets per day and sometimes I feel like it gives me a headache but it could be other stuff as well. I also use splenda for certain things, sweet n low for others, and equal for other things even still. Anyone else do this? how many packets is average on a given day?


i too, use artificial sweetners. i use 3 packets for my cup of coffee, and i generally drink at least 2 a day, more on the weekend. I used to use sweet n low but was told it was cancerous so started using equal.

Original Post by gi-jane:

Have you tried going without them completely? When I was a teenager, I used to regularly drink tea with one spoonful of sugar and coffee with two. I tried swapping the sugar for sweeteners but didn't like the taste so instead went 'cold turkey' and simply started drinking tea and coffee unsweetened. I'll be honest, they tasted absolutely dreadful for several days but I soon got used to it. I've since stopped using sugar on cereals and other foods and it's amazing how quickly they start to taste normal. Maybe you could lose the headaches if you did the same?

Good luck

I don't use anything in my tea either - no sugar, no milk, no artificial sweeteners! I drink a cup or two of tea every day.  I drink coffee maybe 3 or 4 times a week, and when I do I either just take it with milk (i.e. I have a latte) or I allow myself the sugar. It's my treat :)

 

I try to avoid artificial sweeteneers elsewhere - when I buy yogurt I buy it plain and sweeten it with honey (tastes fantastic, and has about 20 calories/tsp).  I don't really drink soft drinks (maybe 1 coke zero a week, usually not even that). 

 

Then again I'm not a big fan of the taste of artificial sweeteners as a whole....

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