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Is the sugar in fruit bad for you???


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if u have say 3-4 fruits  a day and avoiding refined sugars and carbs especially to have a more toned tummy. ofcos exercise comes in to play as well.

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The sugar in fruit is contained within the structure of the fruit... So it comes as a package with fibre, vitamins and lots of other good things.   A toned stomach comes from exercise.

 Sugar in fruit should be evaluated with the other benefits of the fruit in mind as well as time of day you ate it and fiber content. An apple, for instance, still has plenty of sugar but also has plenty of fiber, increasing your satiation as well as lowering its impact on your blood sugar levels. A banana, on the other hand, is full of potassium, a mineral we do not find in enough foods in the US diet. It is full of sugar but lacks the fiber neccesary to lower its impact so it would be better to eat it before exercise or with a protein shake afterwards to improve recovery and make sure those carbs go to muscle rather than fat.

i'm finding though that all my carb calories just come from fruit and thats only 4 portions a day and that brings me 100-130g of carbs! I'm trying to increase my protein but find lots of my carbs are taken up by fruit that I'm having protein alone!

is it ok to have fruit as sole carbs?

Harriet: No. You should be eating wholegrains and complex carbs like potatoes, beans, root veggies, and so on. Not just all from fruit. But your carbohydrates are obscenely low regardless if you're only taking 100g to 130g in a day. A good ratio is 50-60% carbs, 10-15% protein and 25-30% fats. A recent post here was Suggestions for a complex carb. I suggest you have a read.

Please bear with me; I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I was just about to post a similar question, albeit with a different twist. I was worried that my carb ratio was too high, but according to what lalabanana says, I'm close to a good ratio albeit with a little too low on the fats and on the high side of carbs.

Here is my average from the 10th of January to today:

Fat - 19.9% (161 grams)
Protein - 19.2% (351 grams)
Carbohydrates - 60.9% (1,110 grams)
Alcohol - 0.0%
Other - 0.0%

Daily Calorie Intake - 1,442 cals
Daily Sodium Intake - 2,554 mg
Daily Sugar Intake - 69 grams
Daily Cholesterol Intake - 111 mg
Daily Saturated Fat Intake - 10 grams
Daily Fiber Intake - 22 grams

I was worried that th carbs were too high. While ricecake84 was worried about sugar, I was worried about the carbs. Lalabanana, I think, addressed both our concerns. Smile

(I know I'm still low on daily calorie intake. Two factors to consider: First, since today's total is low since the day is not over, it made the average lower, and second, I'm working on increasing my total to within 800 calories of what I burn.)

Thanks for bearing with my slight detour. Smile

marine head - if ur calorie total is 1,442 calories how did you manage to get such high readings of fat/carbs/protein. im guessing this is a typo yeah?

Original Post by harriet1988:

marine head - if ur calorie total is 1,442 calories how did you manage to get such high readings of fat/carbs/protein. im guessing this is a typo yeah?

No, the numbers are an average over four days according to cc. It didn't average the fat, protein, carbs etc like it did the daily stats. At least that's how I interpret what cc gave me in the "Analysis" section. I just copied and pasted. Smile

Original Post by marinehead:

Original Post by harriet1988:

marine head - if ur calorie total is 1,442 calories how did you manage to get such high readings of fat/carbs/protein. im guessing this is a typo yeah?

No, the numbers are an average over four days according to cc. It didn't average the fat, protein, carbs etc like it did the daily stats. At least that's how I interpret what cc gave me in the "Analysis" section. I just copied and pasted. Smile

 To get the average of the four days, you would need to add the four numbers of your carbs(ex.) and then divide them by four, not add them all together.

Original Post by rkelizondo:

Original Post by marinehead:

Original Post by harriet1988:

marine head - if ur calorie total is 1,442 calories how did you manage to get such high readings of fat/carbs/protein. im guessing this is a typo yeah?

No, the numbers are an average over four days according to cc. It didn't average the fat, protein, carbs etc like it did the daily stats. At least that's how I interpret what cc gave me in the "Analysis" section. I just copied and pasted. Smile

 To get the average of the four days, you would need to add the four numbers of your carbs(ex.) and then divide them by four, not add them all together.

Right; I didn't do the math. CC did. Laughing

Original Post by gi-jane:

The sugar in fruit is contained within the structure of the fruit... So it comes as a package with fibre, vitamins and lots of other good things.   A toned stomach comes from exercise.

I don't think this is true... abs are def made in the kitchen not the gym!  Of course its really a combo, but there is a reason figure athletes don't eat sugar or fruits...

They also dehydrate themselves before competition...

Abs are combination of kitchen and work out. Once you get to certain bf% if you have enough muscle they will show through, if you don't it will still look flabby. For example I have 7% bf, stomach looks flabby. I know some people with higher bf%, but with much more definition of their ab muscles. They work on that, I don't.

UD

still confused :$

Original Post by marinehead:

Please bear with me; I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I was just about to post a similar question, albeit with a different twist. I was worried that my carb ratio was too high, but according to what lalabanana says, I'm close to a good ratio albeit with a little too low on the fats and on the high side of carbs.

Here is my average from the 10th of January to today:

Fat - 19.9% (161 grams)
Protein - 19.2% (351 grams)
Carbohydrates - 60.9% (1,110 grams)
Alcohol - 0.0%
Other - 0.0%

Daily Calorie Intake - 1,442 cals
Daily Sodium Intake - 2,554 mg
Daily Sugar Intake - 69 grams
Daily Cholesterol Intake - 111 mg
Daily Saturated Fat Intake - 10 grams
Daily Fiber Intake - 22 grams

The analysis part of this can be a little fuzzy....it got me the first time to.

The fat/protein/carb part of the analysis is TOTAL, not average.

The Daily breakdown is an average number.  That is why the top numbers look so high.

The sugar is fruit is processed the exact same way as regular sugar is processed in the body. The only things that make fruits different from straight up sugar is that fruit have vitamins, minerals & antioxidants. I personally do not eat fruit because sugar is not good for the body and I get my antioxidants from eating tons of vegetables! 

No offense giasbash6260 but I think you have an eating disorder. Judjing from some of your other posts, and profile posts.

UD

Original Post by giasbash6260:
The sugar is fruit is processed the exact same way as regular sugar is processed in the body. The only things that make fruits different from straight up sugar is that fruit have vitamins, minerals & antioxidants. I personally do not eat fruit because sugar is not good for the body and I get my antioxidants from eating tons of vegetables! 

Sugar as a basic food carbohydrate primarily comes from sugar cane and from sugar beet, but also appears in fruit, honey, sorghum, sugar maple (in maple syrup), and in many other sources. Scientifically, sugar refers to any monosaccharide or disaccharide. Monosaccharides (also called "simple sugars"), such as glucose, store chemical energy which biological cells convert to other types of energy.

Sugar is not an enemy. Sugar sould be reduced, but not eliminated. That's probably not too good for you.

Original Post by giasbash6260:

The sugar is fruit is processed the exact same way as regular sugar is processed in the body. The only things that make fruits different from straight up sugar is that fruit have vitamins, minerals & antioxidants. I personally do not eat fruit because sugar is not good for the body and I get my antioxidants from eating tons of vegetables! 

Biology lesson!!  The body runs off of ATP (adenosine tri phosphate).  Your body stores about enough ATP to last you 7 seconds if you were suddenly deprived of all glucose in your body.  Your body makes ATP from glucose.

Your blood sugar is the amount of glucose chilling out in the blood.  When you eat a candy bar, it's full of glucose.  Nothing needs to be done to the glucose for your body to use it, so it goes straight to the blood stream.  That's why processed sugars will make your blood sugar rise so quickly.  When your body detects an abundance of the glucose, it releases insulin which creates that sugar crash that leaves you tired and hungry.  This is why most people avoid processed sugars while on a diet.  Processed carbs (like enriched flour) don't require much work from the body to convert it to glucose, so that's why they have a similar effect.

Fruits and veggies are full of fructose.  That's a different sugar than glucose, and your body needs to convert it before it's free to enter the blood stream so your body can create its ATP.  This is why fruits and veggies don't give you a sugar high and crash.  Also why they're much kinder to your pancreas (the organ that makes insulin).   Whole grains have a lot of indigestible fiber that your body has to break down to get at the "meat" of the grain in order to make ATP.  That's the reason whole grains don't have such a harsh impact on blood sugar. 

You need to eat both grains and fruits/veggies because whole grain carbs, and fruit/veggie carbs(fructose) are different.  You need both fruits and veggies in your diet because they provide different minerals and vitamins that your body needs.

If you're interested in the impact that a certain food has on your blood sugar, check out it's glycemic index.  There are lots of sites on the web that have databases of the GI.

Hopefully this explains why diabetics have to have low sugar/carb diets as well as why it's okay to have lots of carbs if they're the good kind (good = takes a work to process).

It's been a while since I've taken bio, so I'm sure I'm leaving out cool facts, but the basic gist of energy creation in the body is there :P

Original Post by marinehead:

Please bear with me; I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I was just about to post a similar question, albeit with a different twist. I was worried that my carb ratio was too high, but according to what lalabanana says, I'm close to a good ratio albeit with a little too low on the fats and on the high side of carbs.

Here is my average from the 10th of January to today:

Fat - 19.9% (161 grams)
Protein - 19.2% (351 grams)
Carbohydrates - 60.9% (1,110 grams)
Alcohol - 0.0%
Other - 0.0%

Daily Calorie Intake - 1,442 cals
Daily Sodium Intake - 2,554 mg
Daily Sugar Intake - 69 grams
Daily Cholesterol Intake - 111 mg
Daily Saturated Fat Intake - 10 grams
Daily Fiber Intake - 22 grams

I was worried that th carbs were too high. While ricecake84 was worried about sugar, I was worried about the carbs. Lalabanana, I think, addressed both our concerns. Smile

(I know I'm still low on daily calorie intake. Two factors to consider: First, since today's total is low since the day is not over, it made the average lower, and second, I'm working on increasing my total to within 800 calories of what I burn.)

Thanks for bearing with my slight detour. Smile

Isn't it true that one gram of fat has nine calories, and one gram of protein and one gram of carbohydrates each has four calories?  If I'm right about that, I'm getting your daily calorie intake to be 1823, not 1442.

Thats not cool to call some one out in public for something like that man.

Its usually a really personal issue that most people don't enjoy talking about.

 

 

Original Post by josielynn:

Original Post by giasbash6260:

The sugar is fruit is processed the exact same way as regular sugar is processed in the body. The only things that make fruits different from straight up sugar is that fruit have vitamins, minerals & antioxidants. I personally do not eat fruit because sugar is not good for the body and I get my antioxidants from eating tons of vegetables! 

Biology lesson!!  The body runs off of ATP (adenosine tri phosphate).  Your body stores about enough ATP to last you 7 seconds if you were suddenly deprived of all glucose in your body.  Your body makes ATP from glucose.

Your blood sugar is the amount of glucose chilling out in the blood.  When you eat a candy bar, it's full of glucose.  Nothing needs to be done to the glucose for your body to use it, so it goes straight to the blood stream.  That's why processed sugars will make your blood sugar rise so quickly.  When your body detects an abundance of the glucose, it releases insulin which creates that sugar crash that leaves you tired and hungry.  This is why most people avoid processed sugars while on a diet.  Processed carbs (like enriched flour) don't require much work from the body to convert it to glucose, so that's why they have a similar effect.

Fruits and veggies are full of fructose.  That's a different sugar than glucose, and your body needs to convert it before it's free to enter the blood stream so your body can create its ATP.  This is why fruits and veggies don't give you a sugar high and crash.  Also why they're much kinder to your pancreas (the organ that makes insulin).   Whole grains have a lot of indigestible fiber that your body has to break down to get at the "meat" of the grain in order to make ATP.  That's the reason whole grains don't have such a harsh impact on blood sugar. 

You need to eat both grains and fruits/veggies because whole grain carbs, and fruit/veggie carbs(fructose) are different.  You need both fruits and veggies in your diet because they provide different minerals and vitamins that your body needs.

If you're interested in the impact that a certain food has on your blood sugar, check out it's glycemic index.  There are lots of sites on the web that have databases of the GI.

Hopefully this explains why diabetics have to have low sugar/carb diets as well as why it's okay to have lots of carbs if they're the good kind (good = takes a work to process).

It's been a while since I've taken bio, so I'm sure I'm leaving out cool facts, but the basic gist of energy creation in the body is there :P

 Thank you, someone finally is making sense.

Fruit is not bad for you, for the reasons above. I wish I could find the thread that showed that fruits actually benefited weight loss more than vegetables alone in weight loss studies.

I've never seen anyone get fat off of a well balanced diet.

For all of you afraid of carbs, our bodies need carbs! Especially those with a low GI...as josielynn already showed.

Enjoy your fruit, it's good for you!!!

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