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The Colon does NOT hold up to 40 pounds of poo.


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I swear if I see this one more time on here I'm going to scream.

Okay, so it will hold a heckuvalot if you're constipated forever and a day (think back to Ripley's Believe it or Not... and that guy looked 5 years pregnant), but you're going to do something about that because it's going to be majorly uncomfortable and quite dangerous. And you'll start to look 5 years pregnant.

The 40 pounds of poo thing is a MYTH. A legend. Something passed around to scare people into buying crap they don't need. John Wayne didn't have the past 50 years of steak dinners crammed into his large intestine when they autopsied him.

I had two 8+ pound babies and looked like I was hauling around a beach ball both times... now multiply that by 5 and tell me where the heck 40 pounds of poo is going to hide.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/gruesome/fecalc olon.asp

 

/vent

Okay, I feel better.

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Edited Jun 23 2013 17:27 by coach_k
Reason: Locked to prevent unnecessary zombie bumps
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Original Post by themassageguy:

For raw sewage waste...if you eat 5 pounds of food in day, where do you think the waste accumulates?  How much waste would be left after digestion and water absorption?  

Here is a link to the hacker's diet online.  It contains a reference from NASA

http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/subsecti on1_2_2_0_6.html#SECTION0220600000000000000

The author shows the typical human mass 'throughput' in lbs per day. 

IN: 2.5 lbs food, 9.2 lbs water, 1.8 lbs O2 = 13.5lbs

OUT: 0.3lbs solids, 11lbs water (!), 2.2lbs CO2. = 13.5lbs

Edited to show totals

I checked out that website to read the John Wayne and Elvis... It says the following:

[Collected on the Internet, 1999]
By the way when they did an autopsy on John Wayne (Mr. Macho himself) 40 pounds of impacted fecal matter was removed from his death inducing cancerous colon. That's because Humans are not evolved for Animal eating. Animal fats lodge in the folds and pockets of our intestines. Carnivores have smooth intestinal linings and do not have these problems.
[Hainer, 1999]
It's said that, according to the autopsy, John Wayne had 40 pounds of impacted fecal matter in his body at death. Elvis reportedly had 60 pounds.

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Ladies...please drop the 40 pound thing, and  read what I say...the 40 pound thing is in chronic cases...and I believe that is very possible.  There will be more IBS as we have obesity and constipation increasing in our youth.  North America has an obesity crisis and our youth will not be healthy if they are eating wrong, sitting at the computer for days on end and will be candidates for heart disease and diabetes at earlier and earlier ages. 

IBS is on the incline...it use to be a 50 year and older problem now I have knowledge of three people fighting for their lives which started as constipation, moved to colitis and is not Chron's disease.   

This is a very serious topic and you will hear more about it  from people you know and love.  I have a relative who turned 31 and will be lucky if he reaches 35...because he did not watch his diet and his waste elimination. The signs things were wrong where all there in his waste.   One more reason why this is a very important topic for me.

duuuuuuuuuuuuude.... keep reading. 

You stopped before the good part and only got to the spam.

 

John Wayne never had an autopsy.

 

Edited to add:  I will be more than happy to drop it if you will.

Original Post by themassageguy:

I checked out that website to read the John Wayne and Elvis... It says the following:

[Collected on the Internet, 1999]
By the way when they did an autopsy on John Wayne (Mr. Macho himself) 40 pounds of impacted fecal matter was removed from his death inducing cancerous colon. That's because Humans are not evolved for Animal eating. Animal fats lodge in the folds and pockets of our intestines. Carnivores have smooth intestinal linings and do not have these problems.
[Hainer, 1999]
It's said that, according to the autopsy, John Wayne had 40 pounds of impacted fecal matter in his body at death. Elvis reportedly had 60 pounds.

Please re-read that information and you'll notice that it is the 'false information' example.  It explains where the false info came from, and then goes on to share more factual information (that is, if the source can be trusted).

 

There was also that big red FALSE at the top of the snopes page...

Original Post by eringilbert:

.........

So...  enquiring minds want to know (I'm always willing to change my mind if presented with new and better information than what I previously held to be true):

........  1)  Acceptable and normal bowel movements for infants on up vary greatly from 4 per day to only a couple of times per week.  All NORMAL, all healthy, and weight loss still possible.  Weight of food in and weight of food out will always be different.  If it wasn't, I wouldn't have been able to gain the weight I did in the first place, nor would said weight be distributed from my knees to my neck.  It'd be in my tummy.  And frankly, my tummy just isn't that bad.  So I reject that argument.

I'm with ya' on the BM thing.  I only have about 4 a week.  I'm sure you wanted to know that!  LOL

"Don’t believe ads that say you must have a daily bowel movement to be ‘‘regular.’’ The average frequency of bowel movements varies widely - from three bowel movements a day to two a week. Less than two bowel movements per week can be normal if it does not represent a change in your pattern." Source:  Healthcare South

FYI -- this isn't an attack on massageguy....  It's just another persons view (mine) on BMs! 

Sheesh!  I need to get a life if I have nothing better to do then have a BM and constipation conversation with a bunch of strangers!  LOL   I could have got in another 30 minutes of working out!!!!

This is way more fun though, right?  Laughing  Get together, talk some s#!)....  Pun definitely intended.

flybee, thank you so much for finding the math... I never had any idea on the numbers.  Though the water out thing does kind of make sense due to the water content in food too.  I particularly find the O2/CO2 thing fascinating.

Original Post by themassageguy:

Ladies...please drop the 40 pound thing, and  read what I say...the 40 pound thing is in chronic cases...and I believe that is very possible. 

Then why do you suggest to every person who posts that they're having problems losing weight that they need to up their fibre content because they could have up to 40 pounds of fecal matter in their colons.  I know you mean well, but the way you're phrasing that really does imply that it's common.  If you left out the 40 pounds of poo part and just suggested that they upped their fibre and water intake, it would get the same message across without perpetuating the myth that it's easy to have lots and lots of poo inside you and that you might not even notice it.  (40 pounds of poo?  The person would be in serious pain!  Heck, 10 pounds wouldn't escape notice unless the person was *extremely* obese.)

And it does not make a difference that you add "in chronic cases" to the end of the sentence while responding to posts. People neither know nor care what "in chronic cases" means, they will still fixate on "40 pounds in the colon."

Telling people they "can" hold up to 40 pounds of waste in their colon (even "in chronic cases") is irrelevant and misleading.

flybee - that's an interesting link. I was wondering about the water thing too, but eringilbert's explanation makes a lot of sense. I just thought we would hold a little more of the water we take in.

THANK YOU for this post - it made my day!

I've only been on CC for about 3 1/2 weeks now and that was already driving me crazy, I don't know how everyone else took it for so long!

Massageguy, I think we all agree that a balanced, natural diet high in fiber is a good way to go, but not to clean out mass amounts of crap in the literal sense unless there is some underlying condition.

Haha, thankyou for posting this. I totally agree!

Sorry for tmi, but here goes. When I was in inpatient for anorexia, I got totally constipated because my system wasn't used to food. Ended up in ER in severe pain (very embarrassing to explain!) and got sent home with enemas. I needed three enemas for anything to happen, which might help illustrate just how constipated I was. And all that ended up happening was... normal.

Our bodies naturally cleanse, we don't have to embark on starvation cleanses or take special supplements or eat special foods. Our bodies just naturally do this. Great, huh? And they don't colllect 40lbs of poop - sheesh! If I had that inside me I'd be doing pregnancy tests every day, period or no, and my boyfriend would be giving me worried looks.

Massageguy, we all know you are a fan of cleanses but please avoid posting this as general advice as they do not promote good health.

Original Post by flybee:

Original Post by themassageguy:

For raw sewage waste...if you eat 5 pounds of food in day, where do you think the waste accumulates?  How much waste would be left after digestion and water absorption?  

Here is a link to the hacker's diet online.  It contains a reference from NASA

http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/subsecti on1_2_2_0_6.html#SECTION0220600000000000000

The author shows the typical human mass 'throughput' in lbs per day. 

IN: 2.5 lbs food, 9.2 lbs water, 1.8 lbs O2 = 13.5lbs

OUT: 0.3lbs solids, 11lbs water (!), 2.2lbs CO2. = 13.5lbs

Edited to show totals

Well, I've had a right good laugh reading this thread ...40lbs of poo ..that sounds unbearable ! 

 

flybee...the stats you posted appear to make sense to me...whilst I do not habitually weigh before and after my #2's I have never noticed any great weight variation from a "backed up" day to a "newly evacuated" day...the stats that most waste is expelled as water or CO2 certainly seems to make sense in my experience.

Original Post by themassageguy:

 The words "in chronic cases..it is possible for 40 pounds of accumulation" but that is rare..I hope.  With the obesity in North America on the rise it may happen more often than we think.

Here's the mean old moderator, not attacking you, but misinformation.  There and never been a single solitary case of anybody's colon accumulating waste.  A fecal impaction of only a few ounces causes excruciating pain.  Ask any nurse who has taken care of this problem.

The number of bowel movements considered normal varies from person to person.  Making a blanket statement without any documentation (as usual) could be harmful to some people. See this, from the Mayo Clinic.  See?  I give documentation for the information I pass on.

At least try, just a little, to do no harm first.  OK?

LMAO ..this **** talking amused the hell outta me this morning! :X

Original Post by musicalfishmich:

LMAO ..this **** talking amused the hell outta me this morning! :X

They say that laughter is the best medicine, so hopefully you started your day on a healthy path with a good chuckle!

Poo talk good.  Impacted poo, not so good!  Ouch!

You're welcome.

Wink

By the way, ever notice how the topic of human waste takes on a different tone when you use the word 'poo' as opposed to 'feces'?  If I'm changing a baby's diaper, I'd rather think of there being poo in that diaper rather then feces!  Undecided Oh!  I don't know if I want to laugh or vomit!  Too much imagery happening right now!

Typically, you are holding more weight in your bladder than you are in your colon.

My brother actually believes the 40 lbs. thing.

I have had two colonoscopies.  In case you haven't had the pleasure of one of those, you are required to drink something which literally dissolves all solid matter in your intestines so you'll be squeaky clean for the test.  On neither occasion did 40 lbs of ANYTHING exit my body.  And I saw pictures of all my innards (yes, all, one of them was a video capsule colonoscopy that took pics all the way through).  Nice and pink and shiny.  Nothing "spackled to the colon walls," as the adds like to say.

And plus, massageguy, maybe I didn't read your post right, but constipation can't turn into colitis or Crohn's. 

OMG!  I usually don't read all of the replies when there are a lot of them (I'm just lazy that way).  I actually read through this whole thing!  I can't believe how much research you gals have done.  I'm actually glad that you started this because I have been thinking about doing something drastic to increase my weight loss.

The 40 pounds thing is a stupid myth. Im not sure that even in the most extreme case it would be nearly possible. However things do get kind of caked on the colon walls. If you got rid of it you probably wouldn't lose very much weight, but you would certainly be healthier.

 

Just to add on, if you already eat healthy your body regulates itself and you probably don't have much if anything stuck in there. But if you don't eat healthy your body doesn't regulate itself as well, which over time can cause a little bit of buildup. Nowhere near 40 pounds though.

I was going to say something about how constipation can't turn into colitis or crohns, but you beat me to it.  I have Ulcerative Colitis, and it certainly didn't come from constipation.  My doctor said the cause is usually genetic.  In order to diagnose this I had to have a colonoscopy which, as someone stated before, showed my insides to be totally squeaky clean without having to rid myself of anywhere near 40 pounds of poo. 

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