calling out to women 50+
I'd like to start this thread specifically for women who are 50 or over.
As a 53 year-old woman, myself, I am finding new challenges, unexpected difficulties and wonderful insights on my path to getting to and maintaining my health, weight and body shape.
What seemed to work for me as little as five years ago doesn't work quite the same anymore. My body doesn't seem to respond to what I consider healthy eating habits and good workout schedules as it even in my middle to late 40s'.
SO, I am would to hear from those out there who are finding themselves in situations. OR NOT, maybe you can enlighten the rest of us as to how you keep your shape, or how you're getting into better shape and a healthier overall lifestyle.
Hopefully this will be the start of something wonderful, educational, funny-offer up jokes anecdotes, whatever!
LET'S GET STARTED!
Reason: Moved from Health & Support to Motivation forum
Hi Everyone! Shopping trip was great and I am pleased to say that I am almost done with xmas shopping - I try hard to be done before Thanksgiving. Need a few small things and wrapping, then done! Honestly I get done early because I can't stand crowded malls and stores. My daughters and I had a great time shopping. Dinner Friday night was at Bravo - oh my... my meal was to die for...scallops, small pieces of sweet potato, spinach and ricotta/spinach gnocchi with a lobster cream sauce!! It was the best meal I've had out in ages. Of course a glass of wine and Italian bread with olive oil dipping sauce went with the meal, I did bypass dessert I was just too full - makes me drool thinking about it! LOL Did not even try to log it LOL Did well with food choices after that though - the next day salad & soup..oh and a glass of wine, splurged on 1 choc chip cookie at Max and Erma's! Still warm - right out of the oven! I wore my pedometer - we walked 5 mile Friday, 3.5 sat and 3 Sunday - weight stayed the same... at least I didn't gain while allowing myself a few treats while away!
Beth - You'd freeze where I live if you're cold at 60 degrees! This morning it was 27 and snowing! i always joke and say that I will be shivering until next July! Sounds like you're getting ever so close to 150!!!
Wow 10 pounds - that was one big baby!!
freedom3 - Thanks for the suggestion but i don't think I could get there - I have a hard time getting the carbs below 50% let alone down to 20%. I'm just too picky of an eater. Did try Atkins once a long time ago - it made me nauseous.
Helene - I am sorry to hear about your friend. I always joke about having cosmetic surgery but I would never do it - not willing to take that risk nor would I pay that kind of money. What are you sewing? I have projects awaiting me - maybe over Thanksgiving break from school I can get a few done! My daughter wants a cover for the golf cart seat - need to get at least that done! I can post on Fridays - I usually weigh on Saturday but can change that around. It doesn't seem to matter - I just seem to be stuck!
beb - I'd be cautious about not wearing sun screen - have you ever seen on Oprah when the dermatologist takes those pics and it shows the sun damage that you cannot see with the naked eye. I am outdoors all summer but never go out without sunscreen! Glad your bone density was good! It actually sounds like the opposite but exercise does help fatigue!
ohio - sounds like you had a great walk and glad the job is going better. New things/jobs take a while until we feel comfortable! It's hard where we live because the cold weather makes it very easy to stay indoors!
robbie - Thanks for asking - DH is finally better - he was sick the entire time I was away shopping and spent most of the weekend on the couch but is feeling better. We went to see the orthopedic Dr yesterday... his knees are in the very advanced stages of osteoarthritis - actually worse than I thought - the xray showed bone on bone. It was so bad you didn't have to be a medical person to see it - Dr says "well you don't need an MRI this is pretty clear why you have pain". They are starting him on cortisone injections every 3 mo , if that doesn't work he will get Synvisc and when all of those quit working we'll be looking at knee replacement for him.
Haven't had time to read anyone's journal but I will get to it - thanks for including the recipe. Glad your clothes are fitting better - lifting weights does help! If only we could get rid of those last 5-6 pounds ...oh well... Fit and healthy that is our motto!
While reading your Thanksgiving menu - I thought traditional?? - it's funny how we all differ in what we think is traditional. Your menu sounded gourmet to me! I'm a pretty basic cook - we'll have Turkey and gravy, bread stuffing, mashed pot, sweet pot casserole, baked corn, fruit salad, broccoli with melted cheese and ritz cracker crumbs, pickled eggs, pumpkin and apple pie and probably 1 other dessert not in the pie family! LOL I'm not a big pie fan. No one in the family likes cranberry relish!
snow - did you win any money while in Vegas?? Sounds like you did great with your weight!!
moon - Your hike sounds fantastic!! I love hungrygirl .com - i even bought the book!!
chris - good advice you gave BEB!! Pumpkin raisin bread pudding sounds good - can you put the recipe in your journal or send it to me!
I think I am caught up with everyone - if I missed you I'm sorry - it's hard to go away for a few days! LOL Hope everyone is having a great day!!![]()
Hi girls, well I and I am sure Helene will and are glad so many of you are going to log your weights at the top of your screen posts..on Friday.....great support this is wonderful!
Chris: Thanks for the advice, i know i have harped alot about Rick but he confuses me so much and i usually can figure men out but i will inhale the advice and see how it goes. Pumpkin raisin bread sounds interesting?
Bonton: Don't worry i do wear sunscreen, but it is winter almost here now i don't go out much in winter, also you have to remember we up here don't get the sun as strong as you down there.....it's all good....Hows the golfing grandson doing?? Does your husband have to give up golf now because of his knees??..I had cortisone shots back in the 90's for a painful foot i had falling on it and bruised it so bad couldn't walk on it till i got a shot, cured it almost right away i may need something like this for my shoulder if it doesn't clear up by itself. I am one of these people that takes forever to heal. I would suggest you might want to check the website infomation on it if your DD has diabetes as these shots increase blood sugar levels or any side affects.....where can i buy a pedometer..walmart?? Canadian tire some store like that??
Well not much to report today enjoy my bean/mushrom stew again for the next week, i really love this stuff, so darn healthy and the fiber yummy.....i can't get enough of it..hehehe....lol..bye for now all...hope i didn't miss anyone...BEB
I'm in D.C. for my training tomorrow; it's cold to me (36) and would be freezing for Beth. I ate reasonably well considering I was in airports or on planes since 8:30 this a.m. Now I have to do my least favorite chore: eat out alone. My husband does it all the time, but I just don't enjoy eating alone at a restaurant. Maybe I'll just emulate Ohio and order room service, but it seems a shame to be in the Capitol and not get out. Plus, I always overprepare and obsess, so getting out could relax me! Some red wine would be off the diet plan, but might help me cope with the time change, no?
Why is the U.S. thanksgiving held on the 4th thursday of November instead of a certain # day???? of the month.....
BEB - hubby does not have diabetes so no worry about blood sugar. Shots already seem to be helping - he's not limping at all today!
robbie - it's only 27 where I live!! I hate eating out alone too. I'd definitely opt for a nice glass of red wine - it will warm you up and relax you from your day of travel! I surprised myself with how well I actually ate while daughters and I were shopping. On Friday while shopping I actually got a small salad with craisins, mandarin oranges and almonds and raspberry vinaigrette! Normally I would just order fries and a diet coke! So I have changed my eating habits... at least for the most part!
Original Post by bonton71:
robbie - it's only 27 where I live!! I hate eating out alone too. I'd definitely opt for a nice glass of red wine - it will warm you up and relax you from your day of travel! I surprised myself with how well I actually ate while daughters and I were shopping. On Friday while shopping I actually got a small salad with craisins, mandarin oranges and almonds and raspberry vinaigrette! Normally I would just order fries and a diet coke! So I have changed my eating habits... at least for the most part!
Let it be known that I always follow your advice, Bonnie girl. The Pinot Noir was $18 (seriously!), but the firm is paying, so what the heck? I also modeled after you and made healthy choices: Salmon tartare appetizer and roasted poullet (I guess that's the expensive way to say itty bitty chicken) with some sort of apple and chestnut "stew" on the side. It was surprisingly good, and now I'm slurring my typing. LOL, Robbie
robbie: how much fun to be in DC. My daughter interned there one summer and loved all the sightseeing. Are you going to have time to see anything? Sounds like your menus are more sophicated than what I ever see. The best wine I had, long ago, was (sorry for the spelling) Poully Foussie.
robbie - and I thought a glass of shiraz at $12 at the Grand Concourse in Pittsburgh was bad!! When my daughter lived down there we would always find somewhere new to eat and of course I had wine!LOL Your meal sounded yummy!
And you should sleep well - wine has that nice effect especially when you are staying in a hotel and may not sleep as well!
Sorry girls, I am chuckling while typing and I shouldn't, because French IS a difficult language. It's poulet (you are right, Robbie, it only means plain ol' chicken), and Pouilly-Fuisse (there is an accent on the last e to make it sound eh). Pouilly-Fuisse is a very good wine from the Loire area, fruity and light. If you can try Pouilly Fume (poo-yih fuh-meh), do so. It's a bit more serious but also very good, with more character. And I agree with Bonton, a glass of red wine (not two), sipped slowly with a good meal, is not only a great pleasure, it also makes you more relaxed, and helps your digestion and mood. It's is not as good as water, as far as calories are concerned, but it is infinitely better than pop, on all counts (taste, diet and health).
Beb, thank you for launching a Friday weighing, and thank you to all those that picked up the idea. I have found along the years that I am always performing better under deadlines, and that being part of a group effort is a great support to me. Which is strange, because I always prefer to be on my own, and do not suffer when I have to spend long stretches of time alone. But I do not perform as well. I have less discipline, I am lazier, and often slip into bad habits more easily. I abhorr eating alone. I have spent so many months of my life in hotels, as well as alone in strange cities while commuting between continents, but I believe I have never eaten alone in a restaurant!!! I always use room service, or go buy stuff in shops nearby, or even do not eat, but I can't sit in a restaurant and order food when alone. My husband laughs at me, because he does that all the time, but I just can't... I'll have to think about why it is such a big deal to me one day...
I have to get ready. I have an apointment with a chiropractor at noon, together with my husband. He has lower back problems and I have a knee bothering me. I know it's because my spine is misaligned and that shortens my right leg after a while. I have to have it popped back in place from time to time, because it causes my knee to work at a slightly different angle, so I am afraid I am going to develop arthritis if I don't fix it. Funny how the wear and tear you never noticed as a young person finally bites you in the butt as you get older!
BEB, I had a frozen shoulder for almost 2 years. I made a stupid movement to unplug my iron under my ironing board, with my arm extended too far, and I split the ligament. It took weeks to heal, as ligaments are wont to do, and the pain was so bad I tensed my shoulder to ease it, and it ended up freezing the muscle inside the articulation. The doctor I finally went to see had me do exercises to relax that muscle. I had to lean over the corner of a table or desk, legs apart, and do slow rotations of the arm, the good hand on the desk supporting my weight, the "bad" arm hanging down toward the floor, a full big bottle of water - or a dumbbell if you have one - held in that hand. It's even better if you "wobble the bottle" in a rotation of the wrist while you rotate the shoulder. The bottle should always stay parallel to the ground, no lifting, as if you were drawing circles on the floor. Keep your shoulder relaxed while you do this. The exercises helped a lot relieve the pain and I was able to move with more ease after a while. You have to do this every time you can. Rest that shoulder and do not do any lifting with it, no rotation above shoulder level - if it is even possible! - for it will only lengthen the healing time.
Moon, what you described was so wonderful! It must be so incredible to find something like that in the middle of nowhere, untouched for so many centuries. Like suddenly touching the life of people long gone, through the depth of time... I could almost smell the cave you described, hear the sound reverberating from the walls, insulated from the outside noises by the surrounding rock. The Chinese always felt caves were magical enclosures from which one could reach other planes of existence - that is why they have rocks full of crevices and holes in their gardens - and I can well understand why from your description, for discovering a cave, especially one where the signs of people now dead are so vividly preserved, certainly must feel awesome. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Almost time to go. It's a beautiful day today. Blue skies and a sun so hot I can't believe I am in November like you... My son in Canada tells me he is under the snow, and my other two children in Switzerland complain about the cold, and I almost melted when I went to ask my driver how long it would take to go to the doctor's office, to be ready in time. We had a tropical storm that marched across Vietnam two days ago, just north of us, and it always cleans the skies for some days after, so we are in for more heat and sunshine this week... Cancer stories were scary, so I'll make sure I have sunblock on... I am a redhead, so I have absolutely no natural protection...
Have a very nice day everyone!
Helene, in Saigon
Thanks Helene: for the advice i will try this, my left shoulder is the culprit if i bend it at the elbow and try to move my whole arm straight back by my body this is when i have the pain, raising my arm straight out to the side not bad or up in front but with all of that i can feel the pain and tension on the top front part of the shoulder, but trying as i said to move it bent and backwards no way at all, i think it was throwing objects and lifting the dumbells out and up that hurt me, time i think will help but i have got to stop moving it and trying to go back with it.....u know what i mean?....it's always something isn't it......lol i will try though...
chris: thank you for the list of 10 foods. Last Christmas we ate a lot of pomegrantes. Walmart had huge bins of them. Like you, I don't know what those other 2 things are.
I am also a 53 year old female. I am 20 pounds from an ideal weight. I have always been weight concious since I was a little girl. Everyone in my family told me I was fat except my DAD. He grew up in the depression and would feed us enormus meals to make up for the deprevation he felt back when he was a small child. Anyway, I have always maintained a healthy weight until I hit menopause! I went on vacation at the age of 50, weighting 145 and came back a week later at 157! Well, I just thought to myself, salads for lunch and exercise every day. And that used to work, but this time I lost .5 lb. And the next week, nothing. And the next week nothing! Never has it taken me but one week to drop at least 3 lbs. I was horrified. And even thought I counted calories and tried hard to workout at least 3 times a week but now it seemed like I was a big ball of dough and just oozing over and out of my clothes! (I'm a clerical person so I do alot of data entry and answering the phones). After many other outside emotional struggles and moving twice, I find myself at 168.8 lbs. I am determined that it will go no higher. I am temping at a hospital and I walk their halls during my lunch hour, climb the stairs during the day on my delivery route and am trying very hard to use all the tools here at CC to control my eating. I also try to get in at least 15 to 20 minutes of real exercise at home 4 x's a week. Over the years I have collected various exercise CD's so I have regular weight training, pilates and yoga. That way I'm not doing the same thing over and over again. It helps to eliminate boredom.
Welcome vagabon: Sounds to me like you are doing everything right, i found the same similar problem back in the spring when i kept plateauing and it was because after doing my BMR etc.. discovered i was putting my body into starvation mode once i increased my daily calories to arond 1200+ i actually am now losing a pound a week again, which is my goal.....i have 26lbs to go from 57lbs, i am slightly different though i only ride an indoor and outdoor bike and dumbells, situps on the couch because of a back disability.....but try this or whatever the site says you should be eating and deduct at least 500 calorie deficit bearing in mind that 3500- deficit = 1lb......and welcome again to the site. There are alot of us menopasal woman on board.......weigh in at the top of your screen on Fridays is something new we are supportively trying to start as of Friday (last week weight and this week weight) only do this week if you feel comfortably...please join in!!!....Bye BEB
A second welcome to vagabon! Your childhood sounds a lot like mine. My mom was naturally thin as a rail and my dad was always at least a little chubby. He loved jelly and sweet things (which he fed me too) and would make us big weekend breakfasts of fried egg, fried potatoes and ham. I can't complain though, of five children I'm the only one that had weight issues before middle age. I didn't get huge but was always more padded than I (or my critical ex) would have liked. I'm determined to live the rest of my life in a more deliberate and healthy way!
BEB, Thanksgiving has a long history of being celebrated on a Thursday in the US. For a time it was on the last Thursday of Nov. but supposedly Roosevelt thought it would help retail for it to be earlier-- the next to last Thursday. Congress made it the forth Thursday in 1941 to make it the same day in all of the states. Isn't Canada's on the second Monday instead of certain day?
Helene, hope the dr's visit gives your hubby and you some relief. I have scoliosis and that causes my legs to be uneven. One of my knees used to bother me but I never thought of that as a cause but it makes sense. Since I've been walking a lot and taking glucosamine regularly it isn't bothering me. That's anecdotal evidence, of course, but I'm crossing my fingers that it continues!
Robbie, I'm glad you went out to dinner. Maybe you'll discover some great healthy dishes to try at home. If so, share, OK? I haven't travelled by myself much so I imagine eating out alone would feel odd to me too. I think I would do it anyway though, I'm fairly sure I'd eat more if I just ate in my room alone.
Someone asked about my sheltie. Willy is about 8 now. I love him to death but he's not the greatest dog ever. He's more concerned with food than pleasing me! LOL. If I have food in my hand, he'll do whatever I want but just praise doesn't move him. The other dogs I've had would rather be petted and praised than fed so it's different. He also tends to become overweight, which I guess is a genetic trait common to shelties (although certainly not of all of them.) He is very sweet though and I thought he'd be a good pet for my daughter to brush and fuss over as a teenager. That was true but of course she's in college now so all the care is left to me
...and my husband is allergic. For that reason we keep him in our fenced yard most of the time...and yes he barks a good bit. Shelties are known to be very energetic buy my little Willy lazes arounds 99% of the time. While the other dog runs to greet me, Willy often only lifts an eyebrow --unless I'm carrying food! LOL.
Hey, girls, I'm definitely in for the Friday weigh-in. I've been posting it on another forum on Fridays anyway plus twice a month I weigh in at a weight control group on Thursday evenings. I always weigh naked as a jaybird first thing in the morning so I was tickled that I weighed 134 fully dressed at the weight loss group two weeks ago. I was brought back down to earth when I weighed 140 at the dr's office last Friday. That was after vacation but I must object to them not giving me time to get my coat off!
Hi everyone
I know I've been away for ages. I've just been in a real depressive state and then for some reason got knocked off this website and had trouble getting back on.
I am not sure if the last time I was here I had thrown my back out. I did and it kept me down and out and low for almost two months. So, no working out! I get my membership back next Wednesday and look forward to getting physical again.
I've browsed over some of the posts here and have missed so much. I'm on new meds, hopefully they'll help to keep my moods more even.
Glad to be back here!
Hi Everyone,
I miss you all. I have been really busy and also somewhat depressed. I haven't been able to get back on my exercise or correct diet. I know its discipline. I know its self love. I know it is a desire to have health and quality of life. Whats wrong with me?
I am in some meditation right now and trying to find why I have gone in this direction. My weight is up. I look awful. I feel terrible. The only people I feel I can talk to and reach out to are you. The biggest problem is still overeating at work. I was offered a part time position on days and then one night shift a week to make full time. Sounded horrible to me. How brutal. I declined.
BTW I am no SO overwhelmed that I missed reading that Bonnie is done with Christmas shopping. OMG. I haven't even thought of that.
Peg
helene, i wish i could only weigh once a week. i am really looking forward to that day where i can trust myself that much. i'm sure it's coming one of these days. a group weigh in would be cool. of course, i'm maintaining now anyway. we're always posting our weights anyway. you are lucky. it's in the 30's here.
beb, you be careful with that shoulder! lol throwing snowballs... congrats on your loss. you are doing great! lol i keep the heat on 64! sometimes i can't take it anymore though & crank it up to 65 or 66. i try to pretend i'm splurging on the a/c, AND when i'm cold, i'm more apt to hop on that treadmill & walk to get warm. :D i walked 8.8 miles today!
i hope you can find someone nice & that kyle stays in school. :D
hi moon! that site is really cool. thanks :D
ohio, good luck getting out of the 180's by the end of the week! you should have no problem.
chris, you'll probably lose, but yeah, even maintaining would be good. we all have to do that eventually anyway.
bonton, that shopping trip sounds great & the food too! i eat alot of carbs too, so i wouldn't worry about lowering that. i can't wait for thanksgiving. i go nuts on stuffing though... for about a week!
we both won a little here & there. overall though, nope. we didn't leave ahead. hubby won 400 once & i won 150 & 100, but we spent alot too. if anything, we might have been even.
robbie, i'm glad you had a nice dinner in dc & wine. i guess room service is nice, only if you don't want to go out. i had 2 arbys roast beef sandwiches today, but i still got my A with all my fruits & veges. i need to buy more good stuff again. i only have carrots left & frozen stuff.
hi vegabon :D
one, i got knocked off again today. it usually works for me if i close the browser a few times & eventually one shows up where i'm logged in again. lol it sure is good to see you again. i know you had that problem with your back last time you were here. i hope them new meds work good for you! :D
hi frost! it's good to see you back again too. hang in there... it'll get easier.
Peg - Great to hear from you -sorry that things are not leveled out. I know for me that exercise helps my mood and the way I feel about myself if you can just get started again. That's the hard part. I've been dragging myself to the gym since school started ( and I mean really forcing myself some days)and it's too cold to golf but it's hard on my knees
so getting enough cardio to lower my weight is about impossible. BIG SIGH but I still go because it makes me feel better and I think it makes me eat better - I think to myself well I just killed myself at the gym for an hour and a half not ruining it by eating junk!. I started wearing a pedometer - helps me to get up and move at work on days where I am trapped in front of my computer screen. It's that darned night shift making you overeat I think! But 4 days and 1 night would suck, your body would never adjust so I don't blame you for turning the job down. HUGS
one - I am sorry about your back I hope your new meds and mild exercise help.
chris LOL When I go to the Dr if I feel like my weight is up I just refuse to get on the scale. They know now and they say " are you getting weighed today!"
snow - Hope you had a great time in Vegas. Too bad you didn't win big bucks!! LOL oh well... that's gambling. You're lucky that you can eat so much and maintain - I am maintaining on 1250 calories and exercising 3-5x a week plus making sure to get 10,000 steps a day! How is that even possible??!!
robbie - Thanks for sharing about turkey ruebens - I actually do like those LOL as picky as I am - and made them last night. My hubby actually liked them!! And it was something different to have - I feel like I make the same things over and over.
vagabon - Welcome - as you will see we are all in the same boat!! Menopause just sucks LOL. I've always maintained a healthy weight - never been overweight - but am about 8 pounds heavier than "my heaviest weight before Menopause!" And can't seem to get rid of it no matter what I do.
Hi Girls, Some of you must be on different sites your smiley faces come out as .....:D.'s..strange that might have something to do with why you get bumped off.
Peg: I agree with Bonton sometimes just forcing yourself to get some exercise will make you feel better...it's the "endorphines" being released, i can't stress this enough..hehehe.....we are all here and will help you!!..and each other..
Chris, That's funny about your sheltie, food first...well if i had a choice between a kiss or a pork chop....hummmm
Hello oneistwomany!! Nice to meet you. Join our weigh in Friday last week weight and this week weight.
Hi Snow: glad you had fun in vegas.....wow....
I don't know about you girls but last Nov/07 i joined the site, and gained 5-7 pounds over xmas that is a whole month of dieting for me....i don't know how to log the homemade gravy i make from bisto, veloutine and the turkey drippings does anyone have any idea what calories would be in say 1/2 cup of this????????
Not to mention those 3000 calorie xmas logs (cakes) that they put out, last year i ate a whole log (chocolate, cherries etc) in one sitting....
..I know i was a bbbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddddddddddddddd girl. It was a craving i just couldn't stop, this year i don't know??..I may need you girls to remind me why i am here and my weight goal date of May1st/09.......PLEASE do that for me when xmas gets close????!!!!!...OKAY!
Well i ordered a bunch of games from ebay today, it's so easy sometimes it doesn't seem real, pay bills online, buy items online, maybe this is why they said on Biggest loser last night that there is a 300% increase in diabetes in Americans now compared to 1980's.......nobody needs to leave their home to get things done anymore, the take out foods, ordered in pizzas, etc....i haven't done any of this in months...my weakness use to be Kentucky fried chicken when i didn't feel like cooking until i found out that a small chicken breast was around 400 calories.....WHAT IS YOUR WEAKNESS FOOD WISE GIRLS????????..THIS ???? IS FOR ANYONE WANTING TO ANSWER IT??
B-
Fat - 16.4% (23 grams)
Protein - 23.3% (74 grams)
Carbohydrates - 60.2% (191 grams)
Alcohol - 0.0%
Other - 0.0%
Daily Sodium Intake - 2,630 mg
Daily Sugar Intake - 72 grams
Daily Cholesterol Intake - 104 mg
Daily Saturated Fat Intake - 9 grams
Daily Fiber Intake - 31 gram
This is my typical analysis i thought maybe if we post this in our sites once a week maybe someone else could see our shortcomings, this is eating my stew and a few of my 5 calorie jellos with whipped cream and a couple apples, turkey sandwich at lunch......i know my sugar is a little high but i still lose a pound a week thi is 1195 calories.......any opinions????
Well been downloading xmas music all day to CD for xmas and my back is now killing me, so i am going to lie down....have a great night or day all.............................BEB.......LEE
Speaking of Biggest Loser - could they please send Vicki home!!!! She is a mean person! GRRRR I don't care for her at all and feel sorry for Amy. Amy should have sent Vicki packing
BEB - Your fat actually looks a little low to me - I think it should be closer to 25% My stats are more like 50-25-25 but I would like to get to 40-30-30. Biggest loser advocates that percentage also.
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